Yes. Well, for the most part, our capital program is driven by our customer needs. And as a service provider, we do our best to match the capital expansions to our producers' needs. So first and foremost, there's not really a lot of pacing in the conventional side of the business. I'd say we're just trying to get ahead of volume growth that we see. So that spend kind of happens on a natural cadence, I'd say, driven by customer demand. When it comes to 2024, obviously, it's a big year for RFS IV in terms of capital spend as well as finishing off of Phase VIII. As we talk about our backlog, you can imagine as we sanction incremental projects, either through the last 2 months of this year or into 2024, most of those projects that potentially could be sanctioned won't have a very heavy capital spend in 2024. Most of that capital will be into '25, '26 onwards. So I don't want people to over-index on 2024. I think the comment really was, I think, based on what we see today, we'll be, either be free cash flow positive or neutral in 2024 based on what we know today. As we sanction new projects, most of that spend will be in '25 onwards, other than potentially Cedar. Obviously, if we sanction Cedar, there will be some equity contributions into the joint venture in 2024. So it's really Cedar that might tip 2024 slightly into free cash flow slightly negative. When I say slightly negative, I'm talking $100 million. We're not talking $600 million. So just to be clear, it's -- we see that as extremely modest. And based on history, it could even go back to positive just based on the timing of spend. And so when we go out 2025 onwards, we'll -- if we have FID and Cedar, we'll have a lot more visibility into the future capital spend and then we'll backfill it with the organic capital. And I want to just go back to Robert Kwan. Free cash flow -- being free cash flow positive or neutral is certainly something that we strive to do over the long term, balancing that with what we see as really solid organic good returning projects in the base business.