Phil, this is Tom. Actually, we feel cautiously optimistic about what -- where -- the direction we're headed here. It all gets down to the containment of the virus, and there's been a significant improvement in that area. Obviously, we referenced -- every state in the country now has had more people inoculated with the first dose than have had -- they have confirmed cases. And of course, that's true for the country as a whole. There's almost 45 million doses that have been jabbed into people's arms versus 27 million people who've come down, confirmed with the virus. That's an enormous statistic. And we're inoculating 1 million -- yesterday, 1.5 million people. The 4, 5-day average is about 1.35. So we're on a path. We've got additional -- we've got reasonable supply of the vaccines. And with J&J coming on probably at the end of this month, I think they go before the panel on the last Thursday of February, we'll have another vaccine available. So what's happening now, you see the cases of below 100,000. The hospitalizations are below 80,000. The program is working. The more high-risk people are getting taken care of. So that decreases ICU capacity, and that gives the states -- as we said, every state has gotten lower cases, but the last, believe it or not -- over the last 2 weeks. And the states are starting to open up. Once the states open up, and then you layer on top of that the fact that you're going to have this very strong stimulus package, and frankly, I believe there's going to be pent-up demand, that when the weather turns right, I wouldn't be surprised that we wouldn't be. And I'm hopeful, we might even get surprised on the upside. But we certainly believe that the prospects for demand recovery are real, and that will allow us -- to force us to increase utilization. As I said in my remarks that every barrel that we bring and put in there comes on a variable cost basis, gets our cost structure down. And importantly, the incremental crude that is going to be needed to be run to meet that increased demand is going to be a medium, heavy sour crude from OPEC, OPEC+, maybe even from -- by the end of the year from Iran and Venezuela. And as you're all aware, we have very sophisticated assets in PBF complex that have not been rewarded over the last several years because of market intervention, if you will, sanctions against Iran, sanctions against Venezuela, OPEC keeping their crude in the ground and even Canada curtailing WCS. That is going to reverse as demand recovers, and the incremental barrel is going to be a heavier barrel, a more sour barrel, and we believe that will widen the crude differentials and be a benefit for a system like ours.