Matt Lucey
Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.
I think Erik alluded to it a year ago, when we were talking about the renewable diesel project. Much of it was more theoretical and an idea. We've tremendous progress over the last year. And so, like he said, all the engineering is complete, all the permitting is done. We've started putting pilings into the ground. And so, it's becoming much more real. In terms of the marketplace, we view our position, as I mentioned before, and our advantages puts us in an advantageous position. And I, at the end of the day, believe, as does the company, that there is going to be a marketplace incentivised, and you're going to have to have government involvement incentivised to manufacture renewable diesel. And it's not only a preference of this country, but the rest of the world. And that can come in the form of the margin itself, but obviously you have [indiscernible] tax credits, you have RINs, you have LCFS program. And we're not projecting any one program or one aspect of it, but in general as the price have probably been going forward, we believe there is going to be a market incentive to manufacture renewable diesel. And we think we're going to be very well-positioned due to that considering all the strengths we bring to it. In regards to the RINs timing of payment, of course it's a political program that's broken, it doesn't live up to any of its stated requirements. So, when the payments are due is anyone's guess, because it'll depend on when the final rule comes out. You have to remember what came out previously was a -- the recommendation. And then they took comments on it. But the final rule has yet to come out, and that's where we think there is a reasonable chance that they may reconsider what they propose. But the timing of which will completely depend, the ultimate RVO deadlines will depend on when that final rule comes out. So, the 2020, it's possible it could be at the end of this year, but it's possible that could be pushed if the final rulemaking doesn't come out for some time. So, I think if they stuck to something this spring, the 20 is maybe December 1, but when do they actually put it out, if you find out let me know.