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Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 14, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to PDS Biotech's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note this call is being recorded. At this time, I'll hand the conference over to Gabby DeGravina, CG Capital. Gabby, you may now begin.

Gabrielle DeGravina

Analyst

Good morning. And welcome to PDS Biotechnology's third quarter 2022 earnings conference call and audio webcast. With me today from the company are Dr. Frank Bedu-Addo, Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Lauren B. Wood, Chief Medical Officer, and Matt Hill, Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, PDS Biotech issued a press release announcing financial results for the quarter ended September 30, 2022. We encourage everyone to read the press release as well as PDS Biotech's report on Form 10-Q, which will be filed with the SEC shortly. The company's press release is available on PDS website at pdsbiotech.com. In addition, this conference call is being webcast and will be archived on the company website for future reference. Before we begin, we need to remind everyone that, on today's call, the company will be making forward-looking statements regarding regulatory and product candidate development plans, as well as research activity. Certain information in this presentation may include forward-looking statements, including within the meaning of Section 21E of the United States Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended, and Section 27A of the United States Securities Act of 1933 as amended, concerning PDS Biotechnology Corporation and other matters. These statements may discuss goals, intentions and expectations as to future plans, trends, events, results of operations, or financial condition or otherwise based on current beliefs of the company's management, as well as assumptions made by, and information currently available to, management. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those forecasted. A description of these risks can be found in PDS Biotech's most recent filings with the SEC. You are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date of this conference call. Except to the required by applicable law or regulation, PDS Biotech undertakes no obligation to update the forward-looking statements included today to reflect subsequent events or circumstances. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Dr. Frank Bedu-Addo. Frank?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Thank you, Gabby. And thanks to all of you for joining us on our quarterly call today. During the third quarter of this year, we achieved some major milestones as we continue to progress the development of our oncology pipeline, and particularly our lead candidate PDS0101 towards registrational trials. PDS0101 is an investigational immunotherapy designed to treat human papilloma virus or HPV positive cancers. Before going through our quarterly and other business updates, I want to remind everyone that there are two key obstacles that have limited broader application of immunotherapy in the treatment of cancer, despite the revolutionary success of checkpoint inhibitors. The first challenge has been the limited ability to induce in the body the right type of killer T cells with the right killing potency, meaning polyfunctional or multi cytokine inducing killer T cells as well as induction of these killer T cells in the right quantity. We refer to this as the critical three R's of T cell activation: right type; right potency; right quantity. We know today that induction of adequate active tumor infiltrating killer T cells is crucial for effective and durable or long-term immunotherapy. The second limitation is inability to overcome tumor immune suppression beyond the immune checkpoint specific mechanisms currently addressed by checkpoint inhibitors. We know today that tumors utilize a variety of mechanisms independent of the immune checkpoints to suppress T-cell attack. The ability to more broadly overcome tumor immune suppression, while also generating potent tumor attacking T-cells presents the potential to more effectively treat a broader percentage of cancer patients, including terminally ill cancer patients as our current data suggests. At PDS Biotech, our technology platforms are designed to specifically address these two critical limitations of immunotherapy. We believe this proprietary approach to immunotherapy could clearly differentiate PDS Biotech from…

Lauren Wood

Analyst

Thanks, Frank. Now turning to the data presented at SITC. Data from the NCI-led triple combinations were presented on immune responses in the checkpoint inhibitor refractory population in which there are very few treatment options available. Highlights presented included a more than two fold increase in circulating HPV16 specific T-cells in the blood of 79% or 11 of 14 of the evaluated patients on day 15 after treatment. Immune responses were associated with increases in natural killer cells, soluble granzyme-b, which is associated with active killer T cells, interferon-gamma and TNF-alpha, signaling a pro-inflammatory response. Immunogenicity findings highlight the potential role of the combination in altering immune suppressive forces and support previously announced results documenting promising clinical outcomes in the CPI refractory population receiving the triple combination and overall early increases in several monitored immune correlates such as granzyme-b and interferon gamma, for example, a day 16 were associated with a clinical response. The outcomes that we've seen in the expanded interim data along with the SITC 2022 presentation continue to demonstrate potential induction of high quality and relevant immune responses that may be associated with clinical efficacy, durability, and safety in a very challenging patient population with very few available treatment options. These results confirm the decision made by PDS Biotech and NCI to focus on the CPI refractory patient population for ongoing clinical development of the triple combination regimen. Turning now to the MD Anderson Phase 2 IMMUNOCERV trial, which is investigating PDS0101 in combination with standard of care chemoradiotherapy, also known as CRT, for the treatment of locally advanced cervical cancer. Highlights here include the following. 17 patients have been enrolled in the trial to date. Seven of the nine patients, 78%, has locally advanced FIGO Stage 3 and Stage 4 cervical cancer. Nine of the 17…

Matt Hill

Analyst

Thank you, Lauren. This quarter was a tremendous one for the company. In late August, we completed a $35 million financing, receiving an initial tranche of $25 million, which immediately strengthened our balance sheet and provided the financial resources necessary to advance the company's clinical pipeline, specifically preparations for registrational trial for our lead candidate PDS0101. Looking at our summary financials for the third quarter ended September 30, 2022, research and development expenses increased to $4.4 million for the three months ended September 30, 2022 from $3.7 million for the three months ended September 30, 2021. The increase of $0.7 million in '22 was primarily attributable to an increase of $0.2 million in clinical study and research costs, $0.3 million in personnel costs and $0.4 million in manufacturing services partially offset by a decrease of $0.2 million in professional fees and facilities. General and administrative expenses decreased to $2.9 million for the three months ended September 30, 2022 from $3.3 million for the three months ended September 30, 2021. The decrease of $0.4 million is primarily attributable to a decrease of $0.5 million in personnel costs, a decrease of $0.1 million in facilities costs offset by an increase of $0.2 million in professional fees. We ended the quarter with approximately $71.6 million in cash, a strong position as a result of our partnering model and continuous financial discipline. With the registrational trial beginning in 2023, we estimate we will fund our operations through mid-2024. That concludes my portion of the call. And I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for a question-and-answer session. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Louise Chen, Cantor Fitzgerald.

Carvey Leung

Analyst

This is Carvey on for Louise from Cantor. Thank you for taking our questions. Our first question is on your HPV associate locally advanced cervical cancer. We wonder how the landscape might evolve overtime? And how does PDS0101 might fit within the treatment paradigm along with other potential treatments? Second is on your flu vaccine opportunity. Curious to know more about how you size or help us understand the opportunity for you. And lastly, what was the physician feedback on your pipeline at FIGC conference this year?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Carvey, I'll take the first stab at the questions and I'll also hand over to Lauren to add anything she might want to add to the answer. So with the cervical cancer, the standard of care, as you may know is chemoradiotherapy, that has really been the standard of care for a few years now, for several years now. And despite the fact that there is, there are reasonably -- compared to other cancers, reasonably effective initial responses, one of the key limitations of the CRT approach is recurrence of the cancer. There is still a significant unmet need in the space, you may recall that less than a year ago, probably several months ago, there was an announcement by AstraZeneca that they had failed their Phase 3 trials in this exact same patient population combining the checkpoint inhibitor with chemoradiotherapy, with the goal there is really to try to improve their responses and also to prolong the duration of survival of the patient. So that is something that oncologist in the cervical cancer space are really aggressively and actively looking for. One of the key things we did here is we looked at the high risk patient population. Those patients who have the lowest chance of seeing clinical benefit as well as the highest chance of recurrence of the cancer, right? So these were patients with large tumors approximately five centimeters in size or larger. These are patients who very likely would also have a metastasis into the lymph nodes. So with these with these patients, these are the difficult to treat patients. And the data we've generated to date suggests strong potential of the ability of PDS0101 with the generation of these killer T cells to really be able to attack and treat these cancers. So what was…

Carvey Leung

Analyst

Yeah, I'm just curious to know more about the physicians’ feedback on your data.

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Yes, I will, at this time hand over to Lauren. Lauren, do you have anything to add to what I said and also the physician feedback at SITC?

Lauren Wood

Analyst

Yes, I think one of the greatest areas of interest is the fact that we now have clinical outcomes that include imaging outcomes as well as immunogenicity and importantly a surrogate biomarker for direct tumor measurement in terms of the circulating tumor DNA. This is particularly important in HPV associated cancers, because there is emerging in clinical practice, the availability to track circulating tumor DNA in HPV related cancers. And the fact that we see induction of these polyfunctional potent CD8 T-cells within the tumor microenvironment of the cervical cancer patients, and we see those cells increase and there is a corresponding decrease in circulating tumor DNA has the potential to be very exciting. I do know that the NCI is planning on measuring circulating tumor DNA in the triple combination study, we don't have that data yet. But that is really a key area of interest that we have seen in terms of feedback that we've received.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Kalpit Patel with B. Riley.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good morning. This is Andy on for Kalpit. Thank you for taking questions and congratulations on the progress. Maybe just to kind of build starting on the cervical cancer patients. Can you set expectations for what chemoradiotherapy would achieve in this patient population in terms of response rate and complete response? And are there any large-scale randomized trials that you can point to you in this area that can help us get a better sense of efficacy? And then I have a few follow-up questions.

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Sure. So I'll start again and hand over to Lauren. But I think in terms of the cervical cancer and the potential and the combination here, I think one of the key things that we're looking at, as Lauren just mentioned, is understanding exactly how PDS0101 or Versamune is impacting the treatment regimen and exactly what PDS0101 could potentially be doing to improve the therapy for these patients. And with -- as Lauren mentioned, in these patients who are not treated with PDS0101, there was no evidence of increased CD8 T-cell induction in these patients. And you see that very clearly with the patients who are treated with PDS0101. Also in terms of the survival of these patients, so as Lauren also mentioned, the vast majority of these patients are Stage 3 and Stage 4 patients. So these are late stage cancer patients. Typically, the initial response in these patients, I think, as MD Anderson reported earlier in the abstract is about 70%. But what's most debilitating for these patients is the disease recurrence, which is really high as the stage of cancer progresses. So as you progress to Stage 3 and Stage 4, you see pretty high rates of recurrence starting before even a year. And so that's really, those are some of the key characteristics and outcomes that we're looking at. So we've seen a significant improvement in the clinical response from that 70%, or about 100%, and almost 90%, complete response. We also see 100% survival of these patients, one patient died from a non disease related or treatment related event, but really now monitoring these patients to see if we can significantly enhance the overall survival, as well as limit the disease recurrence. In terms of a similar large trial, the one I'll refer you to is the one I just referred to, recently concluded by AstraZeneca, where they look at this exact same patient population locally advanced cervical cancer, where they combine the anti PD-1 checkpoint inhibitor with chemoradiotherapy, so very similar to what we're doing. I said that we're combining out of PDS0101 versus a checkpoint inhibitor. And we're hopeful based upon the data we've seen in the past, and we know about the importance of killer T cells, the right type of killer T cell, which is what PDS0101 appears to be doing. And so we were very pleased with what we've seen so far and highly encouraged and look forward to continuing to monitor these patients to really understand not just the immediate or the near-term outcomes, but the long-term durability of the combination. Go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I was just going to ask a follow-up on the T-cell abduction. We know that chemoradiotherapy, you don't see an increase in the tumor of these cells. Can you also confirm that you don't see an increase in blood and then maybe on the increases that you are seeing in the blood? Do you have a sense of how large a fold increase you believe is sufficient? And then also, were you able to kind of monitor the changes in T cells over time, or is it really just that 15-day data point that you looked at?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Two trials, and Lauren is really the expert with circulating tumor DNA. So I'll hand over to Lauren shortly. But -- and we're looking at two trials here. So with the National Cancer Institute trial, they monitored those T cell responses. They looked at the immune correlates before initiation of treatment and 15 days after treatment. So there's we're limited to that time period. And they focus they have on the checkpoint inhibitor refractory population. And what they showed in that case is very clear induction of the multifunctional HPV16 specific T-cells. And so their T cell characterization was specific to what PDS0101 should induce and sure enough, what we see is an increase -- significant increase in that specific T cell population that targets HPV16 cancers in the responding patients. So they showed a very strong correlation between that and responses, as well as things like granzyme-b, which is specific to active tumor attacking CD8 killer T-cells. And they also look at things like interferon gamma showing increases in all those correlates. So it was very informative in terms of the role of PDS01 and those immune correlates that are induced by PDS0101. What’s very interesting about the MD Anderson study, but they did not look only at the circulating T cell responses, but they also looked at the T-cells that actually infiltrates the tumor microenvironment, which is very important. Because you can generate T cells which may increase in the blood but may not be effective in targeting and actually infiltrating the tumors. And so what the MD Anderson study tells us and shows us is that we see a strong correlation between what we have observed in the preclinical studies where we see these T cells effectively infiltrate the tumors lead to tumor death, we see a…

Lauren Wood

Analyst

Right. Well, thank you, Frank, you did highlight the fact that one of the strengths of the MD Anderson study is that they are able to examine the time course of both these immune responses and the circulating tumor DNA responses at five different time points over the course of standard of care chemo radiation therapy, which has to be completed within a certain time course window. The other thing that I think is very important to note is, is that what we're really looking for is not only these early results, but we have preliminary survival at one year and it's going to continue to be very informative as the results and the clinical outcome from the study matures. The reason is, is that cervical cancer is really a disease of disenfranchisement as young women present with locally advanced disease. And it is this locally advanced disease that really results in sub optimal responses to initial chemo radiation therapy, as well as a predisposed risk for early disease recurrence and diminished survival outcomes. The trial that Frank had mentioned, performed by AstraZeneca with their checkpoint inhibitor failed to demonstrate a benefit in terms of reduction in progression free survival, that was not statistically significant. So we clearly can see that if we are able to one, have these complete responses early on, in the course of standard chemo radiation therapy, as well as potential reductions in circulating tumor DNA, we're looking to see how that will translate not only in terms of short-term immediate imaging outcomes but the longer term outcomes of delayed disease recurrence and continued survival.

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

And I think one thing to add to that as the management team here, having these studies, actually independently performed by some of the world's leading experts in the field, we believe also generates confidence in the reports and very importantly for PDS Biotechnology independent expert validation of our science. What's also very important with the study, with the MD Anderson study, it highlights the breadth of the potential applications of adverse immune based products if they are able to significantly improve the efficacy of some of the most used cancer therapies without compounding their toxicity. So to date, I think we are highly encouraged by the immune correlate data generated and presented by both MD Anderson and the National Cancer Institute.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then maybe one quick final question for Lauren. I think it's impressive and notable that she saw increases in granzyme-b and interferon gamma. Just maybe talking a little bit more about those, was there a kind of threshold that was associated with clinical response or any more color you can provide on the correlation there, would be helpful.

Lauren Wood

Analyst

I wish, I could provide more correlation and your question is excellent. One of the things is that we do know is that, is it the presence or absence of a specific response? Or is it the magnitude of a specific response as well as its presence? And I think that, from the data that MD Anderson has presented, we don't have a sense of whether or not there's a certain minimum threshold that has to be achieved in terms of the magnitude of these responses, but it's something that we would definitely want to explore moving forward. The point that you highlighted that we see both granzyme-b as well as interferon gamma, historically, in the past, when we had been characterizing immune responses, we always measured interferon gamma, we tend to measure it as just a monotherapy response. But we clearly now have an understanding that when you see induction of antigen specific responses, that are polyfunctional, so you see induction of multiple different cytokines, such as interferon gamma. But in addition to granzyme-b, which is specifically characteristic of cytotoxic functional T cells as well as TNF-alpha and IL-2, it is this polyfunctional potent T cells that really appear to be able to have the anti-efficacy that we're looking for.

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

And, Lauren, to add to that, is it correct that with these patients, every patient is going to have very different kinetics. And so measuring the maximum immune response in each patient is quite tricky because the fact that one patient has the maximum response on day 10 doesn't necessarily mean that patient two will have the maximum response on day 10. It may be on day 15 for that patient or maybe on day 5, right? So taken with the approach that you have to take in human clinical trials where you look at a specific time point, you may be able to monitor increases in that patient's immune correlates, but you may not necessarily be able to determine that this is the maximum that this patient actually generated. Just based upon the different kinetics you'll see in each patient.

Lauren Wood

Analyst

That's absolutely correct, Frank, and it's why with given the inherent biologic variability that there is in every patient's individual immune responses, when we're able to look at them collectively together and see these trends, where across multiple patients we see increases in these HPV16 specific granzyme-b positive CD8 T cells over the course of treatment and a corresponding decrease in the observed circulating tumor DNA. It suggests to us that the responses that are being induced whenever they're being induced and to whatever magnitude they're being induced, are having an anti tumor effect. And again, early data, but very, very interesting in things that we want to follow.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from line of Joe Pantginis with H. C. Wainwright.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Everybody, good morning. This is Joe for Joe. So I just wanted to you know what, Frank and Lauren, let me ask question about the multifactorial components of immunotherapy and cancer vaccines over the years. And I'll link to one of the components of the IMMUNOCERV study. And feel free to let me know if I'm getting too much into the weeds. But you're sharing today a lot of correlates about the T-cell activation, which I think is extremely important? And then when you look at even in the background, and how this study was conducted, they're talking about targeting tumors that are over 5 centimeters. Now, if you look at the past by another studies, 5 centimeters always has seemed to be a sort of a boundary that, a lot of cancer vaccine companies for example, would want to target under 5 centimeter. So I'm just curious, where previously the bulk of the tumor might have been viewed as a problem for cancer vaccine efficacy, your T cell activation here really talks to your original thesis from Frank's prepared comments regarding the T cell activation data that you have?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Definitely, I think what you said is very true. I think one of the key things you mentioned is that there have been lots of failures in the cancer vaccine space, a lot of which we believe is attributed to the inability to induce the right type of killer T cells in the right quantity. And I think what is also very important for PDS is just based upon the history in the space for us, our technology to really show a differentiation, it was important for us to go to the more difficult to treat cancers. Because we had shown in our preclinical studies clear differentiation between the induction of the right type of T-cell and tumor aggression in preclinical studies. And so our approach by looking at these patients who have this large high tumor burden was really twofold: to be able to get a quick read on whether or not this is working; and also to be able to show differentiation, that these T cells are active enough to really treat the difficult to treat cancer patients that most immunotherapies won't address. If you go all the way from there to what we're looking at with the NCI, where we're looking at checkpoint inhibitor refractory patients. Again, this is a population of patients that almost no immunotherapy looks at simply because of the tumor burden and the difficulty in treating those patients. So, I think what we're trying to establish here, our approach is to really clearly say, look, this appears to be working. We've looked at the most difficult to treat patient populations that no therapy, forget immunotherapy, no therapy is able to effectively treat. And it was very important in the early days for us and data has been very encouraging. But I think what we now have, from both the NCI and MD Anderson is now really explaining why these combinations have worked as effectively as we've seen today in providing some validation of the clinical data that we have been seen in terms of this is exactly what PDS0101 is doing, this is the kind of immune responses generating. And also very importantly, this is exactly what we see in the preclinical studies, and that data appears to translate very well based upon the technologies mechanism of action into humans. So it's a deliberate approach that we've taken in terms of really establishing the potential efficacy of our platform by looking at the more difficult to treat patient populations, that not just immunotherapy, but cancer drugs in general, really haven't been able to effectively address. Lauren, you were going to say something when I started.

Lauren Wood

Analyst

Right. The only thing I would echo is that this difficult to treat cancer population, particularly with cervical cancer, that present with locally advanced disease, it is the real world population where there is incredible unmet medical need. So that again, for all the reasons that Frank has already iterated, but importantly it's where the patients are, this is how they present with unfortunately, locally advanced disease that is very difficult to treat and allow continued good clinical outcomes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And those sizes of tumors, if I hear you correctly?

Lauren Wood

Analyst

That's correct.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Perfect. And I guess, just looking forward, does IMMUNOCERV has the beginning of the design here, where you would just do a randomized study plus or minus chemorad, or is it do you have visions towards another type of study based on how difficult this population is based on the recurrence rates?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

I think now we are in a information -- obtaining information stage. It's still early, we would like to see data from some more patients. And I think at that point, just like we've done with VERSATILE-002, if the data continues to look encouraging, as encouraging as it is, we will definitely want to sit down with the FDA and discuss how we could move that into a registrational trial and what the right type of registrational trial for this patient population would actually look like. But I think it's a little bit early now the data is highly encouraging, but we would like to see a little bit more data from these patients and then make -- hopefully make the right decision at that point in terms of where we go, and how we designed that trial.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of James Malloy with Alliance Global Partners.

Laura Suriel

Analyst

Hi, this is Laura Suriel on for Jim Malloy. Thank you for taking our questions. So for the end of Phase 2 meeting that was recently completed for the VERSATILE-002 trial, what are the next steps that you're looking into taking for this trial in particular and what is just an overview of its timeline? And also looking forward, what might the ideal registration trial for this specific indication look like? And is it still in line for a mid 2023 start? Thank you.

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

I'll have Lauren start, and then I'll end up with the timelines and so forth. So Lorena I hand over to you first.

Lauren Wood

Analyst

Great, thank you, Frank. So our discussions with the FDA were very helpful in terms of identifying what the key elements of our design should be in terms of a pivotal registrational trial, we've initiated feasibility in order to be able to determine what needs to happen as far as we know that this is going to be a global trial and that's one of the things that we are in the process of investigating. We do look to anticipate having the trial initiated in the first half of 2023. Again, it would be dependent upon feedback that we're receiving not only from the FDA, but also from European agencies and countries where we would be conducting the trial. Frank?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Thanks, Lauren. Yeah, so, really as Lauren said, really, we are now in the clinical design stage right in terms of designing what this trial will look like working with the statisticians to understand the population and the population size. And then we would definitely want to run that by the FDA again, and just make sure that the FDA is in agreement, that if we run those trials as designed and meet the endpoints, that it will be acceptable to the FDA. So we are at that stage now, and hopefully, the goal is to hopefully get this started sometime around the middle of next year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Robert LeBoyer with Noble Capital.

Robert LeBoyer

Analyst

In Dr. Wood's discussion, there was a mention of 0102 and 0103 with a mention of manufacturing process for clinical trials. Is there any estimate at this point of when you might be able to file an IND or move forward to clinical trials?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Yes, so -- and between PDS0102 and PDS0103 we prioritize PDS0103. So PDS0103, as I mentioned, is in our -- is going through clinical manufacturing. And we expect that that would very likely be the next product that goes into human clinical trials. We had initially projected that we will be filing the IND for that program by the end of this calendar year; however as I mentioned in the earlier remarks, based upon the FDA's agreement that we move PDS0101 into a pivotal trial and the amount of regulatory work that goes towards getting a registrational trial up and running, we are prioritizing PDS0101 at this point. And therefore because of that prioritization of PDS0101, what we decided to do is to, I wouldn't want to say deprioritize, but PDS0101 has taken precedence and therefore we anticipate that the PDS0103 will be ready for IND sometime in the first half of next year just because of the prioritization now, of all the regulatory work we have to do to get a global registrational trial going. Did that answer your question?

Robert LeBoyer

Analyst

Yes, it did. Any comments on 0102?

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

0102 should be filling 0103, that's also in clinical manufacturing, PDS0103 is further. With PDS0102, we are at the antigen manufacturing stage, PDS0103 is actually in the final clinical product manufacturing stage. This is a little bit ahead of PDS0103. But as we continue with our business development discussions, everything we have discussed here today in terms of our understanding of how this technology is working, really helps us with also business development activities and having discussions with other potential and prospective partners. And so we’re keeping all our options open in terms of how quickly or how slowly those programs get into the clinic, and also being opportunistic in terms of what the financial situation of the company is. And so all those are being taken to consideration in terms of the timing of both PDS0103 and PDS0102, but the goal right now is to get our product into the commercialization part to reach its registrational trials as quickly and as efficiently as possible. And again, we’re also having that discussion with the FDA regarding the triple combination. So the goal here is to also understand what the regulatory pathway would be for that triple combination and also how quickly we can move that into commercialization. So all those have been taken into consideration as we determine how quickly we move the pipeline also into clinical trials. But with both of them, preclinical studies are complete and we’re in the clinical manufacturing stage towards IND filing and progression.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] At this time, I'll now turn the floor back to Dr. Frank Bedu-Addo for closing remarks.

Frank Bedu-Addo

Analyst

Thank you. Well, thank you very much for joining our third quarter earnings and update call. We made extraordinary progress in both our clinical and preclinical development programs, showing the potential of our Versamune and Infectimune platforms. We plan to continue the momentum as we move through the fourth quarter and into 2023. And we look forward to updating you as we progress. Thank you very much again for your time and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and log off the webcast. Thank you for your participation.