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Park Aerospace Corp. (PKE)

Q2 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 4, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Daniel. And I’ll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Park Electrochemical Corporation's Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2019 Earnings Release Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there’ll be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. And at this time, I will turn today’s call over to Mr. Brian Shore, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Mr. Shore, you may begin your conference.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Thank you, operator. This is Brian. Good morning everybody. I have with me Matt Farabaugh, we're a factory in Kansas, by the way. And sitting together for a change, normally we’d be on different lines. So this call should be very well coordinated. Anyway, we’ll go through our normal introductory remarks. Matt will start with a financial commentary. And then I’ll add some business commentary. And then I'll go to the Q&A. Go ahead, Matt, when we get started.

Matt Farabaugh

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, Brian. Certain statements we may make during the course of this discussion, which do not relate to historical financial information, maybe deemed to constitute forward-looking statements. Any forward-looking statements are subject to various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations. We have set forth in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended February 25, 2018 various factors that could affect future results. Those factors are found in Items 1 and 1A of that form 10-K. Any forward-looking statements we may make are subject to those factors. As Park has entered into an agreement to sell its Electronics Business to AGC, Inc., this presentation will focus on the aerospace business that will remain with Park going forward. All comparisons to prior periods have been updated to exclude Electronics. I’d like to briefly review some of the items in our fiscal year 2019 second quarter ended August 26, 2018 P&L. Park sales were $11.2 million in the 2019 fiscal year second quarter compared to $11.4 million in the 2018 fiscal year second quarter, and $10.4 million in the 2019 fiscal year first quarter. Gross profit for the 2019 fiscal year second quarter was $3.1 million or 28.1% of sales compared to $3.2 million or 28.3% of sales for the 2018 fiscal year second quarter, and $2.9 million or 27.4% of sales for the 2019 fiscal year first quarter. Selling, general and administrative expenses for the 2019 fiscal year second quarter were $2.1 million or 18.9% of sales compared to $2.2 million or 19.7% of sales for the 2018 fiscal year second quarter, and $2.1 million or 20.2% of sales for the 2019 fiscal year first quarter. Investment income net of interest expense in the 2019 fiscal year second quarter…

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Okay. Thanks a lot Matt. This is Brian again. So we have a few things to cover here. First of all, as you all know, we announced the sale of Electronics -- our Electronics Business to AGC, Inc. of Japan. The announcement was done on -- through a news release on July 25. We haven't spoken live since then. So you may have questions about it. But I did -- because especially we're not going to do an investor call right after the news release. I did have a lot of commentary in my perspective, in my thoughts about how I felt about the transaction. So you might want to go back and read that news release. So I tried again to be pretty complete. I'm not going to go back through those comments. It doesn't make any sense to me to do that except to say that, I think it's a good thing. I feel that it's a very good company, AGC, a very fine company. I think it's a good result all the way around. But I think you might want to go back and read my comments. So when we did - announce the sale, the agreement to sell Electronics, we also indicated that we thought it would close in Q3. I want to update you on that a little bit. So since that time [indiscernible] has changed its rules a little bit. They extended the review periods from 30 days to 45 days for both the Phase 1 to Phase 2 necessary. As a result, we think that the closing now is going to probably be like November or maybe December even January is a more likely timeframe. Most of the other approvals have been received, but [indiscernible] is still under review, so that's a little…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Sean Hannan with Needham and Company. Your line is now open.

Sean Hannan

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Yes. Thanks, good morning. Thanks for all the color here Brian. I just want to see if I could follow-up on some of his commentary referencing the pro forma views provided earlier in the year. Realizing you folks aren’t necessarily updating these views, but your commentary, I think, you had indicated you’re saying you’re tracking to it. And at this point, I’m more focused now on fiscal '20, which is mainly the calendar '19 year. So would I or would the street be interpreting correctly if we are thinking about how the activity has been picking up and pulling back to the left? Keeping that in perspective, keeping the perspective of what your prior goals were and also the scenario that there is some additional business that was not included within those pro forma estimates that – at least looking at those types of numbers the degree of comfort should be very high with what you had put out this past January. If not, some potential too, although no promises yet, but some potential that we could maybe even have a chance to exceed. Just to get some feedback and thoughts around that. I understand there is going to be a plenty of caveats, but perspective would be great?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Yes, Sean, really glad you asked that question, because I should have covered the -- not just the '19 [indiscernible] focusing on the short term. So we will update this forecast, and I should have covered that. And maybe we’ll do that in the next call. I thought we wait until the Electronics sale has been closed, but hopefully that will be the case by the next call. And we’ll go ahead and update the forecast. As far as fiscal '20, I’m looking at the forecast here of revenues $58 million to $63 million, we have just done a little bit of work on that in the last couple of days. But we haven’t done enough to reissue the forecast, want to do a more thorough job. You’re correct, that new program is a pretty big upside. But I also mentioned that it's already been booked for the next year. And that’s not – that amount was not in the forecast we provided on January 4. But it’s, I think only about $1 million for next year, because it's just beginning to ramp. By the time we get to 2024, the volumes are quite significant. And it ramps kind of linearly from next year --in the calendar '24, I’m talking about, sorry, that’s when the -- by the calendar '24 that’s when it peaks, so it peaks at a pretty high level. So it will have some impact for the fiscal year '20, but it won’t drive the needle that much. When you get to the out years '21, '22, it start to drive the needle much more, and our fiscal 2023, which is calendar '24 that's when it will peak at a pretty high level. But, so in terms of just our perspective, let's say next year, I wouldn’t give you any guidance above or below that range at this point. I don’t think we’re in a position to do that. That's we’re not confirming the range on, but we’re saying the range seems kind of like within reason. I guess that’s the best we can do right now. But like I said, we will update this forecast where we do the whole thing and [Technical Difficulty]

Sean Hannan

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Hello?

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, please standby. Your conference call will resume momentarily. [Operator Instructions] You may resume.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Okay. Hello, Sean. This is Brian. Hello. Can you hear me Sean? Operator, this is Brian. [What happened to the] [ph] call?

Operator

Operator

You’re live.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Sean, can you hear me still? It seems like we got cut off at some point operator. And we’re not hearing from the analyst, so he is asking a question. So why don’t we go to another question at this point, and maybe we'll dial back-in. And, we’ll continue with his questions at that time.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Leonard Cooper, a Private Investor. Your line is now open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi Brian.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Hello, Leon, how are you doing?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Can you hear me?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Yes, I can hear you fine. We don’t know what happened here.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

If you’re confused, I’m doubly confused. And I just scribbled down certain words. And I’d like your comments. One, Scorpion and two is Park involved in drones in any way. And I then wrote down China and when I wrote down personnel, do we lose people in this transfer of the Electronics Business to the Japanese firm?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Okay. So, Scorpion, that program, I think, we commented last time, it’s been pretty quiet. And my understanding is that Textron was out there trying to sell a program, trying to sell aircraft, and I suspect they'll be pretty quiet until what happens because they’ve done all the work they need to do. This is again what is awkward thing is where you really should be looking at the Textron information because I don’t want to do disclosure with Textron. But my understanding is until they actually get a buyer and sell airplanes that the program will be really quiet for us. Drones, we do work on drones, we have for quite a while. But we’re not talking about the little drones that are bought by individuals. We’re talking about mostly military drones, larger drones that are used for military purposes. And China, I’m not sure what you’re asking about China and not sure what you're asking about personnel. Could you elaborate on China? What about China?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Well, is the tension with China effecting Park?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Well, we’re commenting on aerospace now. And on aerospace, I don’t think so. Remember that we’re on this -- a couple of Chinese aircraft programs through GE, through MRAS. One is the ARJ, which is a Comac regional jet, which is in production, limited production, but in production. We’re selling into that program. The other one is C919, which is intended competitor to the single aisle, the A320 and 737. That program is still in development. But we're on the program with LEAP engine, that’s LEAP 1C engine. So we supplied some material into that program as they continue to do the development and goal for certification. But we’re not seeing any impact from, mean like the China tensions with trade discussions, not seeing any impact from that. And last one is personnel?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

What about personnel?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Do the electronics people go with this deal to the Japanese firm?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Yes, of course, they would. So all the people that work at the Electronics locations, Arizona, probably California, [indiscernible] California, Singapore and France, all those people end up working for AGC. And then there’s some corporate people that aren’t assigned to a particular location that would be going to AGC, and some will not. And that's all been worked through with AGC. All those details have been worked through with AGC and agreed to.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Brad Evans with Heartland. Your line is now open.

Brad Evans

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Thanks for taking the questions. Just with respect to your revenues that you're currently generating with Kratos. I'm assuming that most of that revenue is applicable to their target drone franchise -- the other target drone franchise. And I'm curious whether -- I mean, is that a correct assumption?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Right. I think -- there is really their business is drones are unmanned aerial vehicles. What I'd like to do is next time, in next call maybe we'll get Mark on the call and he could talk a little bit more detail about some of these programs, because I'm not sure, I know exactly which programs. I know I understand that most of these drones like you say with the Kratos. And I get back to you individually, of course, as well. But I think it will be good opportunity next time when we're --after electronics is sold, that we're just an Aerospace company, talk little more. If you get more information more detail about some of the individual programs and Kratos will be one of them.

Brad Evans

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

I'd appreciate that because I know that, if I'm assuming, I mean you're getting some reasonable revenue from them because they're near Top 5. So I was assumed that's going towards their target drone franchise. But I'll be curious whether you have inspecting to their tactical drone franchise, which is where they're expecting to see meaningful growth over the next several years?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Okay. I'll tell you what, we'll get back to you with more information, but we'll also try to cover that in the next call as well.

Brad Evans

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Could you just speak to just the broader pipeline of what you're seeing today in terms of new business opportunities? Could just kind of -- I appreciate if you could amplify on what you're seeing there in terms of size and scope?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

So we talked about GE. We talked about GE a lot. We talked a bit about Boeing now. I think what we need to do was we need to kind of expand our presence and something we need to work on in terms of the overall market, covers the overall market. We're very focused and consumed on these large programs. We're focused and consumed on expanding the plan. And I think we've done a really good job of covering all the market opportunities. And I believe that there are -- well first of all, we are seeing opportunities. I don't want to make it sound like there are. We're not seeing any of them. But I guess what my point is that I think there are opportunities that we're really not tapping into, which we just don't have that presence in the market, but I think we should. So that's something we need to work on, and we're working on it now. My perspective is that Park is a pretty attractive supplier for the market, especially with the sale of electronics, because it makes us an aerospace-only focused company. And I think a lot of the market, not just speculation, but just what I told. Looks it as differently than the competitors. The competitors have their own strengths and weaknesses. But I think a lot of companies in the market look at Park a little differently. And that's an advantage that I think we need to explore and take more -- that we need to take more advantage of. So does that help you with your question?

Brad Evans

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Well, I guess I'd be curious. I think if you could, I know it's difficult to give to put numbers and names and the platforms out there, but it just -- it'd be helpful to kind of understand whether the opportunity set in terms of front-end engineering and prototyping whether you're seeing more opportunity or less than you were say 12 or 18 months ago.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Okay. Well that's easy. I think definitely more. We get consumed with dealing with these big things, but nevertheless, I believe it's more. And going back to what I said earlier, I think it would be good for us, and maybe in the next call just to going to these programs and opportunities in more detail. And there is always going to be a limitation as to how many names we can mention and numbers we can mention, but at least giving more perspective, because until now we've been in aerospace and electronics. When we get the aerospace, we're usually talking about maybe two, three big customers, and we really don't give much perspective on the rest of the market. And we have many more aerospace customers than we have electronics customers. I think we have over 100 active aerospace customers actually, and some are small, but that doesn’t mean it how important. So we probably have given a historical view, because of our time limitations in the past on these calls, we focus on the GE, maybe Boeing, maybe look on Scorpion, Rockwell, things like that, but we’re not getting into the details about the rest of the market. And the rest of the market is significant. It’s not just those three or four companies.

Brad Evans

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Let me just ask one more question, I’ll seat the floor. How do you view Park – as we move into -- if there is more investment on DOD side in hypersonic technologies, how do you -- do you feel Park is positioned to participate in that market at all?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Heartland. Your line is now open

Okay. So, it’s something we’re definitely watching and tracking and trying to find relative to that area. So I think it’s little early for us to say that we’re locked in an area, but it's something we’re tracking, paying attention to talking to people, about to talking to OEMs, the companies are developing these technologies to be able to participate. And when we talk about things like that we also consider product development because in some cases we may need a different kind of product in order to tap into those markets.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Christopher Hillary with Roubaix Capital. Your line is now open.

Christopher Hillary

Analyst · Roubaix Capital. Your line is now open

I just want to ask if you care to share any color today on how the M&A pipeline looks from your perspective just given the significant cash balances you’ll be caring in the not too distant future?

Brian Shore

Analyst · Roubaix Capital. Your line is now open

We’ve been pretty active in the M&A area. It’s been a juggling act for a small company because we’re in the middle of -- we’ve been working on the sale of Electronic now as a big job for us. We’re a small company by design. I think I explained that before, we don’t want to have a bureaucracy that's not our business model. But nevertheless, we haven’t looking at a number of opportunities. And one of particular we spend quite a bit of time on ended up that wasn’t for us. But we did invest a lot of time we were in that whatever last crown or something like that and that going to somebody else, which is probably good result anyway. But it has been something we focus on. We -- I think we discuss it pretty much every day. We’re looking at things developing our opportunities. I wouldn’t say right now there is something eminent going to announce next month or two, because these things are -- before you get to announcement, there is a lot work that’s required before you get to that point. So I'm going to look for an announcement next month or two, a big M&A transaction. We’ve looked at small companies as little as $5 million of revenue. And when I say looked at, this means active discussion – our active discussions and negotiations. And we’ve looked at quite much larger companies as well. Again, active involve and active engagement.

Christopher Hillary

Analyst · Roubaix Capital. Your line is now open

Okay. Great. Thank you. Good luck for the rest of the year.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Roubaix Capital. Your line is now open

Thank you. That's all aerospace, I think, you know that. But I just want to make sure everybody understand, everything we’re looking at is in the aerospace area.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And I’m not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Brian Shore for any further remarks.

Brian Shore

Analyst · Needham and Company. Your line is now open

Thank you, operator. I don’t know what happen in the middle of call apparently the call get interrupted and we just kind went dead for a little while. I think Sean, maybe that interrupted our discussion a little bit. So if want to call back we can finish it up. But so apologize for that a little glitch. But thank you very much for dialing in. Thank you for your good questions. And feel free to call Matt and me, just you can reach out to us and find us. We’re in Kansas right now. We'll be here the rest of the day. And I guess that's it. So have a real nice day, and again, nice talking to you. We’ll be in touch soon. Good bye.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This does conclude today’s program. And you may all disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.