Christopher J. Progler
Analyst
Patrick, this is Chris. Certainly, related to our largest memory customer, there's been kind of a market dynamics shift, as you've said, and also an acquisition for them and they're digesting life of fab capacity and figuring how to integrate products they've acquired into their own portfolio. So that's caused somewhat of a pause on some of the photomask work. On the other hand, the fabs are very busy also on the memory side. And that's probably muted a little bit some of the memory mask demand in the very short term. As far as the trends for memory, I think all the big players, the remaining 3 big players, are pushing very hard on the mobile side to take it down to low 2x nodes, so say 20-nanometer-type nodes very quickly. And I think you're going to see those sorts of capacities ramp pretty fast next year into the mobile space. So a little bit of a pause on node transition and also high utilization in the fabs, but definitely, the memory roadmap in DRAM is pushing hard for the next node. As far as going to a 1x DRAM, the R&D is in place. There's a lot good cell designs for that. There are prototypes and the lithography strategies are established, and we're engaged in those. So I see fairly robust memory node transition cycles, at least for the next 2 to 3 years, and we're directly in the pipeline of those, I believe.
Patrick J. Ho - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc., Research Division: Great. And maybe then moving to the NAND side. Maybe, Chris, on that front, there's a lot of, I guess, varying degrees of how fast the various players are going to transition to 3D NAND in terms of the planar to vertical NAND transition. Big picture from the Photronics side of things. Does that benefit you guys one way or the other in terms of the industry transitions and depending on who's making that transition, or are you kind of agnostic to that industry shift?