Paul Arthur LaViolette
Management
President, CEO, Principal Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer & Co-Chairman of the Board Anthony, yes, thank you. Good question, and great to hear from you. Yes, we -- in both cases, having human data -- and clamp, as you know, patients end of about 40, obviously with the catheter over 100 now. So the more volume of human data, I think the more helpful that is with FDA. And so that is -- both those data sets are included in the respective IDE submissions. And of course, when you think about the threshold for IDE approval, you're really getting FDA to a point of determining that this device is safe to enter a clinical trial in the U.S. And so having dozens and dozens of well-tolerated, safe properly documented and in some cases, durably followed patients. That really does provide FDA, I think, with a very important checked box for the IDE. Of course, you can get an IDE without human data. And of course, you need other layers of data, benchtop testing and preclinical histology, things like that, that you cannot extract from human data. But the human data is collected, it is submitted in each of those 2. And I think it will be incrementally just positive for FDA as they move us toward IDE approval on both of those. In the case of clamp, for data publication, there is a meeting in October in Copenhagen, which is called the EACTS meeting. It is actually the European Society of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery (sic) [ European Association for Cardio-Thoracic Surgery ]. And we do expect to have additional data publications and case demonstrations at that meeting for the cardiac surgery clamp. So we are flowing data, if you will, in that direction, and we're continuing to advance our catheter data. Similarly, I don't have any near-term conferences to announce for data issue, but we are working on publishing our European feasibility data and that will, I think, look very good. So more to follow exactly on timing of publication, but we're certainly advancing the feasibility data to transparency, if you will, for both studies.