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Playtika Holding Corp. (PLTK)

Q4 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 27, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Playtika Holding Corp. Q4 2024 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Tae Lee, SVP, Corporate Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Tae Lee

Analyst

Welcome, everyone and thank you for joining us today for the fourth quarter 2024 earnings call for Playtika Holding Corp. Joining me on the call today are Robert Antokol, Co-Founder and CEO of Playtika; and Craig Abrahams, Playtika's President and Chief Financial Officer. I would like to remind you that today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements, including but not limited to, the company's anticipated future revenue and operating performance. These statements and other comments are not a guarantee of future performance but rather are subject to risks and uncertainties, some of which are beyond our control. These forward-looking statements apply as of today and you should not rely on them as representing our views for the future. We undertake no obligation to update these statements after this call. We have posted an accompanying slide deck to our Investor Relations website which contains information on forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures and we will also post our prepared remarks immediately following the call. For a more complete discussion of the risks and uncertainties, please see our filings with the SEC. With that, I will now turn the call over to Robert.

Robert Antokol

Analyst

Good morning and thank you everyone for joining our call today. As we reflect on 2024, I’m please to share that we have made noteworthy progress in executing our return to growth strategy and are moving in a positive direction for the company. We achieved significant milestones in 2024. We started the year by outlining our capital allocation framework for investors. We initiated our quarterly dividend, authorized a buyback program, and outlined our plan to restart our M&A engine, which has been instrumental in generating growth and creating value for our shareholders in the past. One of the year's headlines was completing the largest acquisition in our history by acquiring SuperPlay, one of the most attractive independent studios in the marketplace, and in the process adding two strong game franchises to our portfolio. This acquisition is a testament to our commitment to boosting our portfolio and driving future growth. As we look ahead to this year, we remain focused on execution. Over the next 12 to 18 months, we plan to bring to the market three new games, including Claire's Chronicles, a new slot themed games, and Disney's Solitaire, scheduled for a global launch in Q2. Early metrics for Disney's Solitaire have been very promising, and we are excited to bring this experience to all players very soon. Alongside this pipeline, we will continue to explore M&A opportunities that support our goals. Meanwhile, we are also investing in our existing portfolio, with focus on titles that hold leadership positions and exhibit strong growth potential. We are optimistic that these initiatives will help us generate consistent top line growth once again. Thank you for your continued support and confidence in Playtika. I will hand over to Craig for more detailed review of our performance this past quarter.

Craig Abrahams

Analyst

Thank you, Robert, and good morning, everyone. Last quarter, we began discussing our portfolio management approach, focusing on making targeted investments based on the scale, leadership position, and growth potential of our games. This strategy is part of a broader framework where we allocate resources to maximize returns and drive growth. For games with both scale and growth potential, we invest significantly to drive further expansion. For those with scale but limited growth potential, we focus on defending market share through targeted spending. Conversely, games that lack scale but show promising growth potential receive outsized investments, including our recently acquired studios. Historically, our growth strategy was based on acquiring and growing new studios. In this next phase, we are acquiring new studios and developing a pipeline of games. The objective is to revitalize our portfolio rather than focusing on individual game performance. By adding more games to our portfolio, we will become less dependent on any single game, making the portfolio approach more important and relevant. While we continue to highlight the performance of our top three games in the quarter, we will also provide regular updates on our acquired titles to highlight their progress. These titles include Animals and Coins, Governor of Poker 3, Dice Dreams, and Domino Dreams. Finally, we are changing how we present our EBITDA metrics. With the conclusion of the 2021-2024 retention plan, we no longer need to distinguish between retention plan-adjusted EBITDA and credit-adjusted EBITDA. Starting in Q1 2025, we will refer to credit-adjusted EBITDA as simply adjusted EBITDA. This change simplifies our reporting without altering the definition of adjusted EBITDA. In line with this transition, we are adopting a more market-based executive compensation structure. This shift moves away from cash-centric plans emphasizing compensation that is tied not only to our business results, but…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Clark Lampen with BTIG.

Clark Lampen

Analyst

Thanks very much for taking the questions. Craig, first, on the organic growth trajectory for ‘25, I'm curious if you could help us understand sort of what's embedded, I guess, organically for the existing portfolio and sort of recently acquired titles if we were to put aside the three game launches that Robert mentioned. When we tried to strip out the SuperPlay impact from casual, it seemed like that segment was trending around flat. It also sounds like the economy issue that you faced for Slotomania feels like it's maybe transient. So, if we were thinking high singles for the casino business and flattish for casual, are we directionally, consistent with where you think you should be? And then you mentioned bolt-on activity and sort of what you guys want to deploy over the next couple of years. I know it's a lot harder to sort of predict organic development, but curious if you have enough like visibility around your development capacity or the pipeline to say whether we should think about Playtika beyond ‘26 or beyond ‘25 being a company that sort of organically develops, a couple new titles every year as well. Thank you.

Craig Abrahams

Analyst

Sure. Thanks for the question, Clark. So there were definitely a few themes embedded there. I'll start with new games. Obviously, that is a bit of a shift from our previous approach with the acquisitions of SuperPlay bringing a pipeline with world-class IP as well as a second title coming after that. We're pretty excited about coming to market there. Disney is now in for Q2. We also have Claire's Chronicles as well as a new slots game. So we have all the costs there embedded in our guidance from a top line perspective, I would say in ’25, it's not material, but baked in. And as we look going forward, I think the portfolio is going through a bit of a transition as we invest in growth in our new titles. And so I think, as we see studios like SuperPlay and in-play trend into ‘26 and go from negative EBITDA to positive EBITDA contributors, we expect to kind of see that turnaround going into ‘26 and going forward. And as we acquire studios where they have new game development as part of their DNA, it will be part of our strategy that we execute on. So I definitely think we're all excited about having a whole another leg of growth added to the company.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Arthur Chu with Bank of America.

Arthur Chu

Analyst · Bank of America.

Hey, guys. It’s Arthur for Omar. Thanks for taking my question. So there's been a lot of excitement recently around the potential to serve non-gaming ads, particularly e-commerce ads and mobile games. I'm curious what your view is on that and, if that opportunity could potentially change your view on in-app advertising as a monetization strategy, which I know you guys have not particularly focused on. Thank you.

Craig Abrahams

Analyst · Bank of America.

Thanks for the question. I think I'll cover the first part around in-app advertising versus in-app purchases. We've traditionally focused on in-app purchases. We believe that our expertise in live operations allows us to have better monetization and better long-term retention as a result of that focus. And while we do have some games that do have in-app advertising, we don't see that as a driver for us. And in terms of the trending that's been happening around e-commerce, I don't think we're sort of fit to comment on that.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs.

Eric Sheridan

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Thanks so much for taking the question. Coming back to the DTC strategy, what have been the key learnings as the DTC strategy has sort of scaled in 2024? And how do you think about the mix of games and or the pathway to the higher levels of mix you've talked about that will sort of transition DTC as we move through 2025, just to understand how that channel evolves? Thank you.

Robert Antokol

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Hi, thanks for the question. So as we put a target for DTC three years ago, we are on track on the target of the revenues. This year, last year actually, last quarter, we started with the strategy with two games, June’s Journey and Solitaire, doing very well. And in our vision, DTC is one of the most growth agents for EBITDA. This is how we're using it. It's helping us to work much easier with the games. And we were one of the first companies that focus in this direction and our numbers are great. We grew 8% year-over-year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Matt Cost with Morgan Stanley.

Matt Cost

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

Great. Thanks for taking the question. I guess just thinking about the new game pipeline, you have Disney, Solitaire kind of in the late stages of testing, I guess, how is that game trending and testing versus what you would like to see at this stage? And more broadly, how should we think about the potential contribution from a revenue perspective from these new games over the next 12 to 18 months? And then I have one follow up. Thank you.

Robert Antokol

Analyst · Morgan Stanley.

So to tell you the truth, that we are so excited about launching this game because this is actually a merge between our ability to acquire a company like SuperPlay that have the knowledge and the experience of launching new games and prove themselves in the last two games that they launched in the last three years. So taking this advantage together with a brand like Disney and with our understanding of the Solitaire category, so all together this is going to be one of our growth engines in the coming two years. This is how we look at it. It's going to be, I think, it's going to be our top three or four games in a year from now and we are very, again, very excited and this is very big news for us, very big news.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Colin Sebastian with Baird.

Colin Sebastian

Analyst · Baird.

All right. Thanks for the questions. I guess first off, in terms of what's embedded in the 2025 outlook from new games, is it safe to say that that is somewhat immaterial for this year in terms of the guidance that it's organic and M&A or are you anticipating that they will contribute materially this year?

Craig Abrahams

Analyst · Baird.

Yes. Thanks for the question, Colin. So to be consistent with my answer before, from a cost perspective, we have all the development costs baked in and from a revenue perspective, I would call it immaterial in terms of what's baked into the guidance.

Colin Sebastian

Analyst · Baird.

Okay. And there's no other M&A embedded in the guidance at this point?

Craig Abrahams

Analyst · Baird.

No, there's not.

Colin Sebastian

Analyst · Baird.

Okay. And then just on, in terms of the trends, I guess quarter-to-date, you mentioned some improvements in Slotomania here in January or through January. Is that something that you're seeing that's sustainable, you think, for the rest of Q1? And to what extent did you see an improvement?

Craig Abrahams

Analyst · Baird.

Sure. So I think the area that we had called out specifically was making changes and adjustments as it relates to the game economy and seeing a near-term improvement. We are also continuing to add new content to improve performance there as well. And I think furthermore, strategically, we're investing in a new slots title as well, leveraging our knowhow and 10 plus years’ experience in the space to really build a new application that takes our best-in-class knowhow on how to manage a slots game and bringing it to something that's much more modern from a look and feel perspective. So really excited about that and more details to come.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Eric Handler with ROTH Capital.

Eric Handler

Analyst · ROTH Capital.

Good morning. Thanks for the question. Two questions, actually. First, another question on DTC, I guess. Given how well you're doing there, what goes into bringing a game to the DTC platform? I guess what I think about is like, why don't you bring more of your games to DTC, particularly the recently acquired games? I'm just trying to get a sense of what needs to happen to bring a new game to the DTC platform.

Robert Antokol

Analyst · ROTH Capital.

So thanks for the question. Yes. This is the strategy at the end of the day that everyone will run on our DTC. It's taking time. It depends on the maturity of the game. It depends on how the technology of the game builds. There is a lot of things that, it's like a formula. But definitely the new games that we acquired in the last year, like Animal & Coins and the Governor of Poker, both of them already on the target to go. I don't know when, but this is one of the targets. And of course, the games of SuperPlay. So I believe that in two years from now, we'll see most of our games, if not everyone, running on our platform.

Eric Handler

Analyst · ROTH Capital.

That's very helpful, Robert. Thank you. And then, I guess, from a big picture perspective for the social casino genre, how do you see that genre over the next couple of years? Is it, can it grow? Just broadly speaking, not your game, just the genre in general, and how competitive is it still at this point?

Robert Antokol

Analyst · ROTH Capital.

It's a very good question because when we look at the history of this genre, this genre was actually, the genre that started with the mobile increasing revenues in 2010 and was leading the categories of the mobile. In the last few years, we see more stability and big players are dominating this area. And I think I don't see a huge growth coming in this area, but I still see a place, even for Playtika, to take market share from the competitors. This is what we're doing. This is why we're launching a new title, because we know what we know about this category. We have the experience, we have the users, the players. So I believe for the company itself, this is a huge opportunity. And for the industry, time will tell.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher Schoell with UBS.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · UBS.

Hey, thanks for taking the question. This is Albert, came on the line for Chris. So I know the company's experience with operating multiple apps of a similar archetype and excess holding a slots and et cetera. But how are you approaching the launch of these additional Solitaire games? How do you see them targeting different audiences? And I know it might still be a bit early, but do you see any potential competitive pressure with Candy Crush Solitaire launching, just given that they have such a huge franchise recognition? Thanks.

Robert Antokol

Analyst · UBS.

So thank you for the question. So Playtika, our biggest advantage is the huge portfolio. And now when we're looking at the new launch of Disney Solitaire, it's coming from our last acquisition, SuperPlay. And this is sitting on their roadmap. And they have their own activities to launch it. And they're doing this the same way they launched the other two games in the last few years. So on our side, this is the advantage of Playtika. We have many studios. We have many games, huge portfolio. And each of them is working independently. So I don't see any issue in this case. On the other case of Candy Crush, I think it's a very good opportunity to the industry. Because I will look a little bit about the history of games. We launched our social casino game, Slotomania, many years ago. And a few years after, two big or even three big competitors came to the industry. And with the amazing content and everything. And what happened? The category grew dramatically. The category became one of the biggest categories. So when I look at the Solitaire today, it's amazing for us that we have a Candy Crush coming to this category. And of course, we're coming with the Disney. And we have Grand Harves. They're doing amazing and still leading the category. So I'm very optimistic about the future here.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Aaron Lee with Macquarie.

Aaron Lee

Analyst · Macquarie.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Now that you're live with IGT content, is there anything more you can share just in terms of what you're seeing in terms of performance and engagement from your users? And also what the roadmap looks like for introducing more IGT content? Thank you.

Craig Abrahams

Analyst · Macquarie.

Sure. So thanks for the question, Aaron. So the IGT content for us has been limited in what's rolled out. We rolled out Cleopatra II, in the prepared remarks we referenced how well it has performed in terms of re-engagement and execution. I think we're excited about the rest of the content that we have coming out, not only in Slotomania, but in Caesars and House of Fun as we roll those out through the rest of the year as well. So there's definitely been excitement that's built as a result of the success thus far with Cleopatra II.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.