Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. Additional earnings materials, including the presentation slides that will be referred to in the call are available on PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust's website at pmt.pennymac.com. Before we begin, let me remind you that this call may contain forward-looking statements that are subject to certain risks identified on Slide 2 of the earnings presentation that could cause the company's actual results to differ materially as well as non-GAAP measures that have been reconciled to their GAAP equivalent in the earnings materials. Now I'd like to introduce David Spector, PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Dan Perotti, PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust's Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Thank you, operator. For the second quarter, PMT produced a net loss to common shareholders of $3 million or loss per share of $0.04, as solid levels of income, excluding market-driven value changes were offset by fair value declines and a $14 million nonrecurring tax adjustment that Dan will discuss later on. PMT declared a second quarter common dividend of $0.40 per share and book value per share at June 30 was $15, down modestly from March 31. Interest rates were extremely volatile this quarter, with the 10-year treasury yield traversing a range of more than 70 basis points, including intraday moves in 1 week in April alone. This created a challenging environment for our investment strategies. However, our diversified investment portfolio, efficient cost structure and strong risk management practices enable us to effectively manage through these challenging market conditions. Turning to Slide 5. I want to touch on our synergistic partnership with PFSI and how that provides PMT with unique and proven competitive advantages. First, PMT leverages PFSI's best-in-class operating platform, including its deep and experienced management team, scaled servicing operations and its large and agile multichannel origination business, which provides PMT with a consistent and high-quality pipeline of loans for investment. Second, our structure allows PMT to efficiently deploy capital into long-term mortgage assets without the operational burdens associated with origination and servicing. And third, PFSI's deep access to the origination market, coupled with PMT's ability to execute private label securitizations, provides PMT with the opportunity to invest in unique organically-created investments at attractive risk-adjusted returns. As can be seen on Slide 6, the increasing volume of nonowner-occupied and jumbo loans generated by the PennyMac platform underscores the potential for future investment. And this growing pipeline of loans provides us with flexibility and optionality, allowing us to strategically…

Thank you, David. PMT reported a net loss to common shareholders of $3 million in the second quarter or negative $0.04 per diluted common share. The Credit Sensitive Strategies contributed $22 million to pretax income. Gains from organically created CRT investments were $17 million, including $9 million primarily consisting of realized gains and carry and $8 million of market-driven value changes from credit spread tightening. CAS and STACR bonds generated gains of $4 million and investments in PMT non-Agency subordinate MBS generated gains of $1 million. The Interest Rate Sensitive Strategies contributed a pretax loss of $5 million. Fair value increases on MSR investments were $23 million. These fair value increases were more than offset by the combined impact of changes in the fair value of MBS, interest rate hedges and related income tax benefits totaling $45 million. MBS fair value, which includes agency POs and securitized interest-only strips increased by $12 million. Interest rate hedges decreased by $60 million. In the second quarter, PMT reported an income tax expense of $9 million, driven primarily by a $14 million nonrecurring repricing of deferred tax balances due to state apportionment changes driven by recent legislation. The fair value of PMT's MSR asset at the end of the quarter was $3.8 billion, down slightly from March 31 as fair value increases and newly originated MSR investments were more than offset by runoff. Delinquency rates for borrowers underlying PMT's MSR portfolio remain low and servicing advances outstanding decreased to $70 million from $84 million at March 31. No principal and interest advances are currently outstanding. Total correspondent loan acquisition volume was $30 billion in the second quarter, up 30% from the prior quarter and consistent with the estimated increase in the size of the overall origination market. Correspondent loans acquired for PMT's account…

I would like to remind everyone we will only take questions related to PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust, or PMT. [Operator Instructions] We'll take the first question from Doug Harter, UBS.

Hoping you could talk a little bit more about the non-Agency securitization opportunity. Can you just talk kind of how the returns progressed over the course of the quarter kind of given the volatility and kind of how you kind of are positioning the risk of that -- of those holdings kind of going forward.

So overall, the non-Agency subordinate MBS, we obviously, during the quarter had a significant amount of both rate and spread volatility. The non-Agency subordinates are fixed rate securities. And so overall, during the quarter, with respect to credit investments, we did see generally credit spread tightening. You can see the reflection of that on the GSE credit risk transfer. We also saw a fair amount of interest rate volatility. And so that led to a slight decline in terms of the fair value of the non-Agency subordinate MBS. On income, excluding market-driven value changes was in line with our expectations of really mid-teens -- or mid- to low teens returns. And so as we continue to add our additional subordinate investments as well as non-Agency senior MBS, we expect those to be -- to continue to be in the low to mid-teens returns in terms of their returns through time. And those are very stable in terms of the returns with respect to reasonable shocks in terms of credit performance as well. And so we believe that those are very stable and accretive investments for us over time.

Great. And then just as a follow-up, it looks like the amount of retained interest on the jumbo was a much higher percentage relative to the nonowner-occupied. Can you just talk about, I guess, how high up the stack? And is that -- was that opportunistic? Or is that something that you would expect to continue on the jumbo side?

So with respect to that, we did retain a senior mezzanine tranche on the jumbo securitization. As we look on a deal-by-deal basis, we are sort of making the decision based on the amount of capital we have to deploy. The jumbo securitization did occur after we had raised the additional debt -- unsecured debt. And so as we're looking to deploy additional capital, I think at least over the next few periods, it's likely that we would be retaining a greater proportion of the interest, both the subordinate bonds and the senior mezzanine piece from many of these securitizations, but we do make the decision on a deal-by-ideal basis based on the capital that we're looking to deploy.

And look, I think, Doug, the important thing is that the team is dynamically managing the portfolio. So as you raise capital and you have capital to deploy, obviously, deploying it into the subordinate tranches is something that's more of a long-term investment in nature, but there are other tranches you can invest at an appropriate return. But as we're doing more securitizations, if we need to recycle the capital, we can do so.

We'll take the next question from Jason Weaver, JonesTrading.

First of all, David, I think we've talked about this before, but maybe just an update, if you have any insights under possible GSE privatization for the future of credit risk transfer.

Yes. Look, I think that right now, we're not hearing much out of the folks in D.C. on anything GSE reform related. The GSEs have been active in their credit risk transfer program using the reinsurance vehicles. And in terms of the return to lender CRT, like we were able to do from 2015 to 2020, I don't see that really on the horizon. And this is what's so exciting about our non-Agency securitization program is the fact that we can create very comparable investments, albeit not as rapidly or not as luminously, but we can create a similar type investment by doing these securitizations. And that's what the team has done a really great job at is being able to really issue the securitizations really every 3 weeks on a relative basis. And I think that, that's something that's really exciting. And so we're able to take the product that executes better outside the GSEs and be able to create comparable securitizations. Now obviously, it allows us also to get expertise and real muscle memory if we need to do more. And so if we want to issue more. If there's other agency eligible product, that executes better outside the GSEs, that's where PMT is in a really advantageous state and the fact that it really got this credit investment thesis that it can continue to grow credit investments at mid-teen returns. And that's something that we want to continue to focus on. We have very good exposure to MSRs and the low-rate MSRs where the range of outcomes are much more limited than current low-rate MSRs. And so if you combine those with the existing CRT that we have from 2015 to 2020, along with new credit investments that I think that you're going to continue to see us climbing to consistent mid-teen returns.

Got you. And just to refresh, on the 3 -- sorry, was it 3 securitizations you've done so far this quarter? What sort of execution levels were you getting on your AAAs and what sort of advance rates?

I don't want to speak out of school. We're getting -- spreads are leaning into their tights. I mean we had a really volatile period at the beginning of the quarter, but things quickly snapped back. And so I don't want to speak out of school. We'll definitely get back to you with more detailed reporting on the embedded leverage. And I think suffice it to say it beats Agency execution by a material amount. And I think that, that was the goal of FHFA and the GSEs was to drive out some of the more nonowner-occupied and second homes into the private label markets. And it's done a really nice job revitalizing the private label markets. I mean it's a very active market, and it's had benefits not just the Agency-eligible production, but you can see in the jumbo loan securitization market, that's become a lot more active. Non-QM is running at about a $75 billion to $80 billion pace this year. And so it's really the most active robust private label securitization market I've seen in our 18-plus years here at the company.

Next up is Bose George from KBW.

So on Slide 13, where you have the run rate ROE, it looks like the increase there is really mainly on the rate side. Can you just walk through the drivers of the increase over the last quarter?

Sure. Well, if you really look at what contributes to the bottom line there, there's a slight increase in the net Interest Rate Sensitive. I think that is really driven by some additions on the non-Agency or an addition in terms of the equity allocated to the non-Agency senior in IO MBS and so that's really the retention of those interests from the securitization side that we're expecting over the next 12 months to help that should -- given the expected returns from that, help push up or slightly increase the net interest rate-sensitive strategies. On -- we also have an increased -- or the ROE from Correspondent Production, the ROE from Correspondent Production is also up quarter-over-quarter based on the outlook that we have for really volumes and margins and the margin activity that we've seen coming into the third quarter, which we expect to -- which we currently project to persist over the next few quarters. And additionally, driving up the -- helping to drive up the overall run rate is additional investments in the non-Agency subordinate piece, which also has returns, which help pull up the rest of the overall forecast and sort of a greater allocation there.

Okay. So as you retain more subpieces from the securitizations that -- the NII from that is flowing through the Rate Sensitive line.

It's both. So both the -- if we're retaining seniors or senior mezz pieces, it would flow through the net Interest Rate Sensitive. We, for every securitization, are retaining non-Agency subordinate MBS and that flows through the Credit Sensitive and both of those are having positive contributions to the run rate.

Our next question is from Crispin Love, Piper Sandler.

Can you just discuss your thoughts on the sustainability of the $0.40 dividend level here, the operating earnings run rate that you discussed, improved quarter-over-quarter, but still slightly below the dividend. And you did mention in some ways how you could see that level improve further in the coming quarters. But curious on you and the Board's comfortability with the dividend today.

Yes. Thanks, Crispin. We continue to be comfortable with the $0.40 dividend level when we look at the potential for returns as we're moving out through the next 4 quarters at the $0.38 level, which, as you noted, improved from $0.35, really, we think, has the potential to further increase up towards $0.40. If you look at our history, we do place a value in the stability of the dividend and especially with the trajectory and proximity of the run rate currently to the expected dividend. We are comfortable with our position at the $0.40 level currently. In addition to that, as we look at our taxable income and the taxable income being generated from our strategies, it continues to be -- to move toward that $0.40 level as well and be supportive of the $0.40 level. And so our expectation is that, that taxable income level will also be maintained. And as we add additional investments into our -- that are not in our taxable REIT subsidiary, namely the non-Agency subordinate and senior MBS, that further bolsters that underlying taxable income supporting the $0.40 dividend level.

Great. And then are you able to provide an update on book value in July to date?

Overall, book value in July to date is very stable with respect to where we ended the prior quarter.

[Operator Instructions] We'll go next to Eric Hagen, BTIG.

It feels like a lot of attention, a lot more of a concerted effort around finally making reforms to title insurance. We got the new pilots and the GSEs. I mean, when we combine that with really strong HPA, I mean, do you see that potentially driving these low coupon borrowers to mobilize or do a cash out refi at some point?

I don't. I think that it's going to help on the purchase side, obviously, but I think that -- look, we're seeing on the PFSI side, an increasing amount of closed-end seconds coming out of low interest rate homeowners. I think that anything we can do to drive down the cost is a good thing. It's going to -- it's going to be about $400 a loan. But I think that I'm not expecting to really accelerate the prepayment speeds on the low interest rate homes -- loans.

And everyone, at this time, there are no further questions. I would like to turn the conference back to David Spector for closing remarks.

Well, thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining us here today and asking good thoughtful questions. And we're obviously here for any follow-up that you may have and reach out to Isaac and the team. And thanks again for the time, and I look forward to speaking to all of you in the future.

And ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. We would like to thank you all for your participation today. We do encourage investors with additional questions to contact our Investor Relations team by e-mail or phone. Thank you.