Good afternoon, and welcome to the PennantPark Investment Corporation's Third Fiscal Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Art Penn, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of PennantPark Investment Corporation. Mr. Penn, you may begin your conference.

Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to PennantPark Investment Corporation's third fiscal quarter 2023 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Rick Allorto, our Chief Financial Officer. Rick, please start off by disclosing some general conference call information and include a discussion about forward-looking statements.

Thank you, Art. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call is being recorded. Please note that this call is the property of PennantPark Investment Corporation and that any unauthorized broadcast of this call in any form is strictly prohibited. An audio replay of the call will be available on our website. I'd also like to call your attention to the customary safe harbor disclosure in our press release regarding forward-looking information. Today's conference call may also include forward-looking statements and projections, and we ask that you refer to our most recent filings with the SEC for important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these projections. We do not undertake to update our forward-looking statements unless required by law. To obtain copies of our latest SEC filings, please visit our website at pennantpark.com or call us at 212-905-1000. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back to our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Art Penn.

Thanks, Rick. We're going to spend a few minutes and comment on the current market environment for private credit, provide a summary of how we fared in the quarter ended June 30, how the portfolio is positioned for the upcoming quarters, a detailed review of the financials then open it up for Q&A. For the quarter ended June 30, our net investment income was $0.35 per share. Core NII was $0.22 per share and excludes $0.13 of onetime dividend income related to our equity investment in Dominion Voting. GAAP NAV increased 1.6% to $7.72 per share from $7.60 per share. The increase was driven largely by stable portfolio valuations and the dividend from Dominion. Adjusted NAV increased 3.1% to $7.67 per share from $7.44. The debt portfolio continues to benefit from the increase in base rates. As of June 30, our weighted average yield to maturity was 12.7%, which is up 12.1% last quarter and 9.3% last year. During the quarter, we continue to originate attractive investment opportunities and invested $70 million in new and existing portfolio companies at a weighted average yield of 12.6%. For the investments in new portfolio companies, the weighted average debt to EBITDA was 4.1 times. The weighted average interest coverage was 2.1 times and the weighted average loan to value was 36%. We continue to believe that the current vintage of middle market directly originated loans is excellent. Leverage is lower, spreads and upfront fees are higher and covenants are tighter. We are seeing an increase in deal flow compared to the first half of 2023 and have a growing pipeline of interesting and attractive investment opportunities. Additional capital we are raising across the PennantPark platform will allow PNNT and the JV to capitalize on the attractive lending environment. At June 30, the JV…

Thank you, Art. For the quarter ended June 30, net investment income was $0.35 per share and core net investment income was $0.22 per share. Core net investment income excludes $0.13 per share of onetime dividend income received from our equity investment in Dominion Voting, net of an increase in accrued excise taxes and incentive fees. Operating expenses for the quarter were as follows: Interest and credit facility expenses were $10.1 million; base management and incentive fees were $8.9 million; general and administrative expenses were $1.9 million; and provision for excise taxes was $1.2 million. for the quarter ended June 30, net realized and unrealized change on investments and debt, including provision for taxes, was a loss of $2 million or $0.03 per share. As of June 30, our GAAP NAV was $7.72 per share, which is up 1.6% from $7.60 per share in the prior quarter. Our adjusted NAV per share was $7.67, which is up 3.1% from the prior quarter. As of June 30, our debt-to-equity was 1.26x, and our capital structure is diversified across multiple funding sources, including both secured and unsecured debt. As of June 30, our key portfolio statistics were as follows: Our portfolio remains highly diversified with 129 companies across 27 different industries. The weighted average yield on debt investments was 12.7%. The portfolio was invested in 55% first lien secured debt, 9% in second lien secured debt, 10% in subordinated notes to PSLF, 4% in other subordinated debt, 5% in PSLF equity and 17% in other preferred and common equity of the portfolio is floating rate. Net to EBITDA on the portfolio is 4.8 times, and the LTM interest coverage is 2.4 times. The portfolio as a whole has a meaningful cushion with regard to interest coverage on a sensitivity basis for overall interest coverage to decrease to 1.0 times, base rates would need to go up 200 basis points and EBITDA would need to decrease by 25%. This analysis is based upon the current run rate interest coverage, assuming a 5.5% base rate. Now let me turn the call back to Art.

Thanks, Rick. In closing, I'd like to thank our dedicated and talented team of professionals for their continued commitment to PNNT and its shareholders. Thank you all for your time today and for your continued investment and confidence in us. That concludes our remarks. At this time, I would like to open up the call to questions.

[Operator Instructions] We'll take your first caller in the queue, that will come from Robert Dodd from Raymond James.

Going to your prepared remarks, the ramp in the pipeline question coming up on a lot of earnings -- could you give us any more color on kind of the kind of drivers there? Is it just a bowing out of the market. There was a lot of met market has been more active on the upper in anyway? Or that type refinancing add-ons? Any color like that? And then last, what's your confidence that those things are actually going to manifest?

Thanks, Robert. The disclaimer, of course, is M&A can be lumpy. So lots of things that can go. Middle market M&A is a key driver of what drives deal flow. So a little bit, it's kind of like being an economist or predicting the weather. We are busy. We are busy. We are looking at a lot of deals. What's going to land and what's going to land on this side of 9/30, what's going to land on the other side of 9/30. It's hard to say. There's a lot of deal flow in the market. It's kind of though, like a tale of two cities where you have some very high-quality companies that had very good growth characteristics. Those types of companies are still attracting very fancy multiples in terms of enterprise value as well as even leverage. And that's one city. And the other city is companies that are -- do not quite have that kind of robust growth parameters or they may be viewed as a little bit more economically sensitive those deals on the other hand, are hard to predict. There's still, in some cases, could be significant gaps between buyers and sellers. They could come together. So we've got pipeline in both of those categories. And we're fairly certain we're going to close a bunch of deals between now and year-end. But is it a very, very, very robust pipeline or a nice moderate pipeline? Who knows at this point. We're working all our deal teams are working hard. We get a lot of inquiry. And it's nice to have lease capital around our platform to execute that here at PNNT the JV has. As we said, JV has some nice capital availability and JV has been doing very, very well, and we're hopeful that we can continue to do well and then ramp that JV.

The second one, on portfolio companies that might be struggling a little bit more in it environment. How would you cartelize the sponsor to that? I mean, are they -- you look at stepping up and providing support or at the margin do you think that the decision is getting telling you that this is getting harder for them? Or any color from that side?

Yes. So in terms of sponsor reaction, I think it's thankfully as expected. The environment like -- let's go back to the pandemic. That was a a lot of turmoil there that was a shock to the system. And there, you might have seen sponsored behavior where people would just kind of write off and wash their hands from the bad deals and be willing to invest in the good deals, thankfully, in our scenario, they basically invested in and supported the company. This environment is less of a shock. It's more of a kind of slow grinding the companies and sponsors absorbing what higher interest rates mean. So there's less volatile movement of the cash flow and because there's less volatile movement of their cash flow, they're not forced as much to make quick decisions about which companies they're going to support and which companies they're not going to support. So these decisions are being made in a slower fashion they're generally being made in a thoughtful fashion. And by and large, we've continued to see sponsors really support their companies with additional capital. So obviously, when they're putting in additional capital makes it easier for us, makes it easier for us to give them some concessions when they're putting some money in junior to us. On the occasion it might not be careful those complications are more challenging, and we have to, obviously, be areas and protect the interest of our investors. And be a little harder around that. So nothing dramatic at this point. It's still kind of a slow moving slow-moving scenario. And by and large, we're seeing sponsors put more money in.

[Operator Instructions] We'll move to your next question, C.J. Alexander Compass Point Research.

I just have one question, Art. Your deployments in the quarter, $70 million that you invested were 3 new and 43 existing portfolio companies, which is 1/3 of the portfolio. When 43 companies thing at the same time. There must be something in common. What kind of trends are you seeing from those existing portfolio companies?

Yes. So good question, Casey. That's a combination of -- and this is where most of our activity -- at least in a slower M&A environment, most of your activity is with your existing companies. Many of them have these delayed draws, DDTLs, where they're doing add-on acquisitions. So that's a portion of it. And then also, as you know, we have revolver commitments. So the revolvers that we do have, and we try to limit them revolvers we do have are usually priced at the same spread in some cases, higher spread than the term loan. So delayed draws, revolvers were kind of the key to the existing companies.

We'll hear next from Paul Johnson from KBW.

In the JV, how much capacity, I guess, do you kind of envision for growth there, both -- I mean, I guess, is it -- could you grow it any more than it is today? Or is it pretty much as what you like to be in terms of percentage of your portfolio?

Yes. So today, the JV is about $800 million in total assets with the junior capital coming from us and Pantheon as well as the CLO. We can get to a little bit over $1 billion. It's a big contributor to our NII. So we really like it. It is in our 30% bucket. So it is part of the 30% bucket. So kind of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So speaking for PNNT, we'd like to continue to grow it, assuming we win our 30% bucket. I can't speak for Pantheon. We could use the 30% bucket. These JVs have been very good for our BDCs. We have one in PFLT, as you know, with Kemper. We have one in PNNT with Pantheon. These have been very good for the NII of the BDCs. And obviously, there's no additional management fee other than, obviously, on the junior capital. So it's very efficient from the standpoint of our shareholders. So look, we're going to look to continue to potentially grow them. The structures can be very robust. Obviously, it's all kind of very secure, lower risk, first lien senior secured debt, which you can finance safely in a number of different ways, including securitization CLO technology and that's long-term locked-in financing, generally low cost at which we kind of create that return on capital what's been very attractive. We'll continue to grow this JV. We'll continue to talk to Pantheon. We may even do other JVs down the road.

And those have been, obviously, very, very successful for you guys. And then just kind of turning to the market. I mean how do you kind of, I guess, observe today? I mean, it seems like activity has been picking up over the summer, are lenders holding the line in terms of just discipline on terms that we've kind of seen in the first half of this year? Or is that starting to soften up in any way?

As you know, the upper end of the direct lending market takes it -- where we are not, takes the cron the broadly syndicated loan space. The broadly syndicated loan space is starting to fall and that will create deal flow, which will create -- in the upper end, there's going to be -- the broadly syndicated loan market is competing with those folks. So on the upper end of our market, kind of the $40 million, $50 million EBITDA companies, we're starting to see some of the upper market guys kind of come into that zone and put a bit of pressure on that $40 million, $50 million EBITDA company kind of where we play, which is we say it's 10 to 50, our mean median is about 20 to 30. We're not seeing any pressure yet, but we're vigilant. We're vigilant. Most important thing we can do is pick solid credits and create balance sheet capacity to take advantage of solid credits. So we still think the vintage -- '23, '24 is going to be good vintage, but we got to be -- we got to watch the space, and we got to be careful if things get out of hand as we always are. So nothing to report in our noncore middle-market space yet, but we're watching.

We'll move next to Mark Hughes from Truist.

Any line of sight on repayments in the September quarter. How is that trending so far?

Nothing materially different, Mark, on repayments. We have them we're happy to get when we underwrite loans, we are -- we say thank you when they pay us off, and it happens even in down markets. Even during the pandemic, certain people are paying us off. So that means kind of solid underwriting, but nothing materially different than what we've seen. We're seeing a drip of repayments. We're seeing new deals and, of course, the continued growth in the JV where we sell assets from PNNT the JV. So more of the same, but nothing meaningfully different.

When you think about the equity co-invest, the turnover time when you get into a challenging market or terms and conditions have been favorable for you like they have been in the last few quarters. Does that also manifest in the better terms on the equity co-invest? Or is that tend to be stable?

Well, that's a nuanced question because it's kind of like we invest side-by-side with the sponsor. So there's no real difference in the investment we are making with the sponsor. So there's not a lot of negotiation over the terms is the multimile makes sense? Is it really -- is it a company that's going to grow quickly or not so quickly? Or what's the downside? So I can say we've been picker with equity call invest over the last few quarters because it's been a more challenging environment to evaluate the economy. And it might be 1 thing to say, gee, we feel safe, making a loan of 4x cash flow and the sponsor is paying 10x for the company, so they're 6x beneath us as equity cushion. That's one type of question. The second question, which is -- should be a total type of question for us, it is, do you co-invest in the equity at 10x. So of course, it's a higher bar for us to invest in the equity. Of course, we have to have greater conviction to do it. And so I think I would say we've just been a little bit more selective on that equity coinvest.

[Operator Instructions] We'll hear next from Kyle Joseph from Jefferies.

Yes. I just kind of want to, given your portfolio size and industry exposure we kind of want to get your sense around the economy is doing? Anything you can provide us in terms of revenue and EBITDA growth trends and how that's change in, frankly, if companies at this point are starting to see a little reprieve from inflation really starting to abate.

Yes Thanks, Kyle. Look, based on the numbers we're getting, it would support the soft landing, it would support the soft landing scenario. There are certain areas that are soft. Certain areas are very strong. But when you look at our platform over 170 companies across the economy, it would support the soft landing. We're not seeing any areas of great stress. So kind of revenues are generally up across the platform. EBITDA is generally up. There are certain areas of weakness such as there's areas of consumer. We've talked about Walker Edison in the past, Walker Edison is a furniture company did very well during COVID. It's reverted to the mean post-go and that's been a nonaccrual. But by and large, it supports the soft landing theory. We say theory because as credit underwriters, as language, when we underwrite credit, we have to assume a recession. In a normal environment, we would say sometime during our 5-year loan, we have to model in a recession. The reality is today, we model in a recession kind of in year 1 because that's how we should be underwriting credit. We should be feeling comfortable about our loans even in recessionary environments. And even if there's a recession next year. So that's how we think about it. But we're not seeing -- and then to the earlier point about amendments the amendment that seem to be coming up or really just do by and large to the much higher interest cost that these companies need to bear now that the base rates went up so substantially. When you're paying 12% on the first lien debt, 12-plus percent of your first lien debt, and if you have a lot of leverage or if you have second lien or mezzanine debt, it's sucking up all the cash flow. So that's where the amendments would typically come in.

And then, I mean, you talked about your area of focus is kind of the smaller companies, but with all the headlines on banks and potential capital requirement increases there. How would that kind of funnel in your market will have that a big opportunity for you guys?

I'm sorry, Kyle, the question again?

Sure with everything going on with regional banks. I know you guys focus on kind of...

Regional bank.

Yes, yes, yes, lower middle and smaller companies, but would there be any sort of reverberations -- and is that -- are you thinking about that as an opportunity for you guys?

Yes. I mean it should be. It's hard to say what exactly is meant at this point. I think it's too early to tell. Certainly, we did see prior to the Silicon Valley Bank turmoil many of the companies that we would finance at 4 or 5x once they got down to under 3x, regional banks who would refinance those capital structures at much lower spread to suffer than someone such as ourselves or any other direct lenders. So the regional banks would be a source of exit for us. I think it's too early to tell, but perhaps the good news and the bad news, perhaps we can hold on to some of those credits a little bit longer. When you're down -- we do have some of these where you're under 3x debt-to-EBITDA, and we're clipping 600 to 650 and the regional bank isn't there. We're happy with that loan. We're very happy with that loan. So that may be something that's more kind of direct for us.

We'll move next from Melissa Wedel from JPMorgan.

I wanted to touch on something that you mentioned earlier in the call about the pipeline where it's sort of bifurcated it sounds like between some higher quality companies with loftier valuations and then also more economically sensitive companies. And I think you mentioned that you've got sort of pipeline in both segments there. When you think about sort of portfolio management or portfolio construction for the BDC, do you think about the optimal split between those? Or is it just sort of see what lands and they're all suitable for the BDC?

That's a great question. I mean I think that ends up coming out in the wash. Obviously, the higher quality, higher growing companies, we and maybe others are willing to put a little bit more leverage on because of the confidence level in that company's growth on the confidence level in that company's ability to weather a choppier economic environment. On the other hand, if you're less confident about the growth or you're less confident about the company's ability to handle an economic environment, you either say no, which is what we say the vast majority of the time or you say, let's structure a deal that is safe, where the leverage is low, where the covenants are sensible and really protect us or there's substantial equity cushion beneath us so that we feel comfortable that if there were a bump in the road, more times than not sponsor would put more equity in. So that's kind of individual deal-by-deal credit underwriting. And we've learned, of course, high-quality companies usually take care of themselves. There's a whole world of credit that's made to companies that are not so lofty in quality that you can do well in. You just need to be really, really comfortable and need to look at your downside cases, need to keep leverage reasonable and covenants tight. So in the former, maybe you're a little bit more assertive about getting that equity co-invest. And in the latter, maybe you graciously decline the comes, you don't even ask for the co invest. So again, you're talking about from a portfolio construction is there a percentage or whatever. We've tended to have the vast majority of the portfolio in super high-quality companies. And that's generally how we underwrite and where we play.

Second question, I wanted to go to the dividend policy. Obviously, you mentioned having 7 straight dividend increases. I know there's been a lot of onetime income in this quarter and the previous quarter. But when we look at sort of a run rate for NII and with the rate sort of in looking to peak in the second half of this year. Should we start to think about the dividend policy maybe starting to stabilize a bit just to ride out any change in that base rate environment going forward?

It's a great question. And every quarter, it's a healthy discussion with our Board of Directors. And yes, it's hard for me to pound the table and say there's going to be another 7 increases in the dividend. I can't do that. I shouldn't do that and who really knows. It will take its cue from the quality of the portfolio. We'll take it's cue from base rates. It will take its cue from the earnings generated from the JV. We are tweaking the frequency to monthly starting in October really because we believe there's no hard numbers on it, but we're seeing -- we've seen in our other BDC PFC. We believe there's a portion of the investment community that does value the monthly. So we're going to take it quarter-by-quarter. We still believe there's more upside on growth of the JV with continued rotation of the equity. We didn't spend much time to be talking about equity rotation, but there's still something like 17% of the portfolio in preferred and common equity that hopefully will be rotated at some point. So we feel comfortable with '21. We feel like we've got substantial runway above and beyond that. But it's hard for me really to comment really firmly at this point. Hopefully, you can appreciate that.

And that does conclude the Q&A portion of our call today. I'd like to turn the conference back over to our host for any additional or closing comments.

Thanks, everybody. On behalf of Rick Allorto and myself went to participating today, we are -- our next quarter is the 10-K. So we're -- we'll be able to be a little bit better than the kind of mid-November. So I look forward to you all then wishing everybody a healthy and happy rest of the summer. Thank you.

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