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PRA Group, Inc. (PRAA)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Aug 8, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the PRA Group conference call. [Operator Instructions] Note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Lauren Partin, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations for PRA Group. Please go ahead.

Lauren Partin

Analyst

Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Kevin Stevenson, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Pete Graham, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We will make forward-looking statements during the call, which are based on management's current beliefs, projections, assumptions and expectations. We assume no obligation to revise or update these statements. We caution listeners that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our expectations. Please refer to the earnings press release and our SEC filings for a detailed discussion of these factors. The earnings release, the slide presentation that we will use during today's call and our SEC filings can all be found on the Investors section of our website at www.pregroup.com. Additionally, a replay of this call will be available shortly after its conclusion, and the replay dial-in information is included in the press release. All comparisons mentioned today will be between Q2 2022 and Q2 2021, unless otherwise noted, and our Americas results include Australia. During our call, we will discuss adjusted EBITDA and debt to adjusted EBITDA for the 12 months ended June 30, 2022, and December 31, 2021. Please refer to today's earnings release and the appendix of the slide presentation used during this call for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable U.S. GAAP financial measures. Before we begin, I would like to take a minute to welcome the Gen Mosman as our new Vice President of Investor Relations. As we announced via press release last month, he will report to me and lead our Investor Relations program. Najim has a wealth of IR experience and will play a critical role in expanding our investment story to new audiences while deepening our current investor and analyst relationships. We are very excited to have him join our team and meet you all. And with that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Kevin Stevenson, our President and Chief Executive Officer.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

Okay. Well, thank you, Lori, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this evening. I want to start off things talking just briefly about what we're doing in the community. In June, we had the official grand opening of our new net zero carbon Taylor facility in Kilmarnock, Scotland. Many of our senior leadership team members from both the U.S. and Europe attended and what was truly a proud day for PRA. Members of Scotland's parliament and community leaders were attended for the celebration along with several banking institutions and consumer assistance charities with a great atmosphere, really reinforcing our values and working together and making a positive impact. To provide some more color on the Halo Building, it's the new center of our U.K. business, which is our second largest market globally. This not only demonstrates our commitment to Humenik where we are one of the largest employers. -- but also our commitment to the environment in ESG, all the while providing our employees a facility, which is cutting edge, both digitally and environmentally and one in which they can be excited to come to work each day. Along with the grand opening of Helo, we are continuing our long-standing tradition of charitable giving. Since our founding in 1996, we made it a priority to invest in communities where we work and live. 2021 was a record year for us in terms of charitable giving, and we are continuing to make these impactful contributions in 2022 despite all that's going on in the world these days. Shifting gates now to Q2. We had another solid quarter led by the performance of our European operations. Please keep in mind, though, that similar last quarter, prior year comparisons will be skewed given the global excess consumer liquidity that our industry as…

Peter Graham

Analyst

Thanks, Kevin. Again, this quarter, the prior year comparisons are tough, but we're performing in line with our expectations. Total revenues were $258 million for the quarter. Total portfolio revenue was $251 million with portfolio income of $194 million and changes in expected recoveries of $57 million. During the quarter, we collected $36 million in excess of our expected recoveries, which represented consolidated overperformance of 7%, with the Americas overperforming by 4% and Europe overperforming by 12%. We've now observed several quarters of more normalized collections with sustained overperformance in certain older vintages. This has given us the confidence to modestly increase our ERC forecast for those vintages, which drove a positive change in estimate of $21 million. Operating expenses were $175 million, a $7 million decrease driven primarily by decreases in compensation and employee services and legal collection fees as well as the strengthening of the U.S. dollar against European currencies. The effective tax rate for the second quarter was 26.6%, bringing the year-to-date tax rate to 20.3%, and we still expect the full year tax rate to be in the low 20% range. Net income was $36 million, which generated $0.91 in diluted earnings per share. Cash collections were $444 million compared to $544 million in the second quarter of 2021. Cash collections in the quarter were negatively impacted by $19 million due to the strengthening U.S. dollar. Americas collections were $279 million, a decrease of $84 million. This was driven by a combination of the excess consumer liquidity in the environment last year and the impact of lower levels of portfolio purchases in the U.S. European cash collections decreased 9%, but grew 2% on a currency-adjusted basis. The purchases we've made over the last few years, particularly in Northern Europe are driving the growth in our European…

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

Thanks, Pete. We appreciate all of you attending this call and getting the latest updates on our company. And we know there was a lot to cover this quarter, but we believe the takeaways are clear. So first, Q3 was another great quarter for the company, masked somewhat by challenging comparisons against 2021 and the FX headwinds that are largely outside of our control. And then second, economic indicators point towards more NPL purchase volumes coming. I'll wrap and up by providing a bit of color on how we believe our business is positioned to perform in a recession, which has been a talking point recently. And this is also similar to the early discussion on inflation. So natural recessions generally lead to more charge-offs and more supply for us to purchase. But a common misconception is that our collections will be significantly impacted during these times. The trend, however, is that our paying customers have already been through what we call a personal recession. We've been talking about this publicly since our IPO in 2002. -- due to personal factors that are oftentimes unrelated to the health of the broader economy, they've fallen behind in their payments, and we are helping them on the road to financial recovery. When an economic recession occurs, these customers, for the most part, continue to pay as they've agreed to and collections aren't as impacted as some might expect. What is impacted, however, is the amount of new charge-offs that occur as an entirely new group of consumers running the financial difficulties. This eventually leads to higher charge-offs and higher amounts of portfolios for us to purchase, which is exactly what we saw in the years following the global finance crisis. As I said earlier, nearly all the economic data we're seeing points to more supply entering the market, and we're ready for it. We've built a high-performing, well-capitalized and profitable engine that is hungry for portfolios. We will always remain disciplined in how we allocate capital, but we're encouraged to see the purchasing pick up this quarter. Overall, this is an exciting time to be here at the company, and we look forward to connecting with all of you as we continue to demonstrate the value of investing in PRA. And with that, again, I thank you all for listening and putting your trust in us. Operator, we're now ready for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] First question today comes from Bob Napoli with William Blair.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Thank you and good afternoon. So just a question on supply in Europe. Kevin, I mean, you certainly called out a strong quarter, but it can be somewhat lumpy. I mean, are you seeing a consistent uptick in supply in Europe that is sustainable where was this quarter affected by one-off larger purchases?

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

No, overall, the supply has been as expected. It's been strong. But don't get confused. It's definitely -- supply in Europe is lumpy. The deals are bigger than they are in the United States. But no, I would say it's consistent and as we expected.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Then the cash efficiency ratio, 60.7% this quarter. What is your view on the sustainable level of cash efficiency ratio as consumer cash collections have normalized?

Peter Graham

Analyst

Again, I said on the prepared remarks, Bob, that I think we're going to be around 62% for the full year. There's always some sort of seasonality to that quarter-by-quarter as we move through the year, but I think 62% is a good sort of benchmark for the full year. And I think that's probably the neighborhood of where we'll be on a go-forward basis. We continue to look for ways to drive efficiency into the operation and believe we've got some built-in advantage as we start to put more portfolio on.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Great. And then, one last one for me. Just I think, Kevin, I mean, you had sounded a little more excited, I think, in the last call about M&A potential. Just any updated thoughts on what you're looking for or kind of if you're building a pipeline and just overall thoughts on what that -- if you progressed on the thoughts around M&A?

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for asking that. I was and am excited about the prospect. I think I might have said this last quarter, but I think now is a great time for us in our evolution. We’ve got a great new hire on board who reports to Pet Graham. And so yes, we are – I would say we’re in the flow as we like to call it. And looking around for something that makes sense from either a tangentially related business or again, something that makes sense for us. So, I guess I’ll leave it at that, but we’ll certainly let Pete wants to add something from this area.

Peter Graham

Analyst

No. I think as always, we're being very methodical about how we approach things. And when we have something more to share, we'll certainly let you know.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Pete, Kevin, appreciate it. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mark Hughes with Truist.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Thanks. It looks like there was a big uptick in the forward flow numbers, particularly in Europe, that I seeing that properly? And anything you can tell us about that?

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

Yes. We always update that with the most recent sort of contractual obligations. You'll recall, we had last year, talked about a multiyear flow that we had picked up. And the primary driver of that increase is just sort of looking out another year with regard to that commitment.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

How much of that would be within 12 months?

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

I'm sorry.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

How much of the total would be, say, within 12 months or if I'm hearing you, and you're saying it's a multiyear of the total, how much might you expect within 12 months?

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

I think that's likely looking out 12 months from here.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Okay.

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

But keep in mind that yes. Just keep in mind, though, that's a contractual commitments disclosure. So it's the maximum contributor -- or maximum committed volume over the entirety of the contract. So it's not our best estimate of the likely flows. It's the contractual commitment.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Okay. And then when we think about the cost, your costs were down $7 million when your collections were down about $100 million. How do we think about variable versus fixed costs with the business as it stands now?

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

Well, some of that is related -- well, a lot of that is related to the top line liquidity that we had in the environment in '20 and '21. On a cash efficiency basis, we're benchmarking against 2019 to kind of normalize for that top line liquidity. And so we've got improvement over 2019 in terms of cash efficiency. I think in terms of overall expense levels, we're kind of we've kind of plateaued in terms of we're at the lowest number of collectors that we're really comfortable with here in the U.S., and we probably have some pent-up capacity to scale as more portfolio comes to market without a dramatic increase in costs. I think in terms of near term, the overall level of expense, the total OpEx that we're at right now for the quarter is probably a good benchmark for how we're going to be trending here in the next couple of quarters. There might be some puts and takes among the different line items. But I think in terms of total OpEx, we're probably about the right size.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Okay. And then, you want to say about your appetite to buy back. If you anticipate that supply is going to be increasing, are you still just as likely to be buying back stock in the market now?

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

I think that's -- as we get closer to the point where we think that portfolio is going to come to market, we might throttle back a little bit, but it's always going to be a part of our toolkit. We still have $93 million of authorization available at the end of the quarter.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Yes. Then one more question, the sizable purchase in Northern Europe, if you hadn’t bought since 2020, what makes you feel good about your visibility around the collections performance for the portfolio.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst · Truist.

It's a unique market, and we have a lot of data in that market. And to your point, though, it is a little older, but it's a more legal is not the right word.

Peter Graham

Analyst · Truist.

The ball system really is a large part of how the collections happen in the Nordics.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst · Truist.

And we've been in that market for a long time. So we're pretty confident with the purchase. And we're doing well on the 2020 deal.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Yes. What prompted the change just that you've been bidding consistently and you just hit it this time? Or did a competitor back out of the market? Just curious.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst · Truist.

Yes. No, so that's a good question. No, it wasn't that because we have had that happen before where a competitor backed out of a bid, and we came in and bought it but that was not the case this time. We just -- we hit on the deal.

Mark Hughes

Analyst · Truist.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Robert Dodd with Raymond James.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James.

Just one on OpEx. First in following up a little bit, Mark. But you had a pretty sizable tick up in outside fees and expenses this quarter. The press release seems -- it indicates higher corporate legal expenses. Was there any one time or is that level going to be sustained? And is there anything are we going to see a disclosure in the Q about and you lawsuit on anything like that? I mean, could you give us any color on that?

Peter Graham

Analyst · Raymond James.

War, it's we -- each quarter, we have to evaluate the myriad of cases that we've got and adjust our accruals accordingly. So it's a little bit higher on that line this quarter. again, I would say for the near-term future, I think our total OpEx is probably about at the right level, and we'll probably have some puts and takes amongst the different line items.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James.

Okay, got it. I appreciate that. On -- if I can -- what -- the outlook for the U.K., I mean, there does seem to be a lot more stress on a typical U.K. British consumer than maybe the U.S. consumers right now. And obviously, we're heading into the back half of the year where things are getting pretty tough across Europe with energy bills and things like that. So -- but at the same time, I mean, on a constant currency basis, the cash collections seem to do pretty well in the European geography. So can you give us any more -- how conservative have you been on -- a tough question on the curve in Europe with a pretty tough environment, but you're still outperforming.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes. Thanks for that. I’ll feel a part of that and turn some over to Pete. But I just wanted to reiterate what you said. In the U.K., especially as you enter the colder seasons with some of the energy costs, that’s a big deal for those guys, and we think about that all the time. So we’re buying paper that we’ve been buying for a long time in the U.K. especially. We’re in – and obviously, we’re in a couple large forward flows and not just one. And we’re, again, one of the strongest players in the U.K. And so our data backs this up. We’re certainly thinking about all the things you talked about. I’ll let Pete maybe go a little more in the curve setting with that if he wants to.

Peter Graham

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes. Again, we take each quarter as it comes and we make our best outlook for what's going to happen not only in the near term, but over the course of these forecast periods, which are quite long. I would say the U.K. performance, some of that being driven by the type of paper that we predominantly have bought there, which tends to be books that are in long-term payment plans, and we go through a formal process of evaluating the customers' ability to afford those payment plans. So they're longer-term plans that are affordable for the consumer and tend to be sticky even in an environment when the consumer is under pressure.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James.

Got it. I appreciate that. And one more, if I can. On the digital front, I mean, obviously, there’s been some – you’ve been working on a long time, but you talked about a lot more to say, over the last 2 years, but not this quarter. I can’t recall if you did last quarter. I presume that’s still doing quite well. But is the investment there still – is it still outperforming kind of where your initial expectations were? Or is it kind of settled into something that’s more predictable now that to your point, some of the excess liquidity at the consumer is not quite the…

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst · Raymond James.

Yes. No, it's a great question. So obviously, during 2020 and 2021, it materially outperformed our expectations. But I look back to when we really launched this process and digital was a very, very small piece of our business back in the day. And I remember, we don't disclose this, but I'll just make a comment about -- we set our internal goal as to what percentage we'd like to have. And even now that we're past that excess liquidity time frame, we are bumping up right against that goal. And that goal I'll just seemed almost unattainable to us when we said it. And so we're obviously in the process of now setting new goals, something new to stretch for in digital. And so we're excited about it. And if you look at some of the productivity numbers, like headcount for collectors, for example, hasn't been this low since what, 2007, somewhere in there. And we're collecting more in a quarter than we collected in a year back then with the same headcount. So a lot of that is coming from digital, from different scoring methodologies and different access to legal and so on. So it's been quite a journey. So don't -- I didn't talk too much about it this quarter, but don't take my silence as lack of enthusiasm on the matter.

Robert Dodd

Analyst · Raymond James.

Understood.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from David Scharf with JMP Securities.

David Scharf

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Thanks for squeezing me in. I'll apologize in advance. I've been bouncing between calls, so I'm assuming most of these have been asked. But maybe a few quick ones. Kineret, I'm curious, the designation of the footnote about the forward flow and the maximum, are there any minimums though, like guaranteed minimums that you were locked in? I mean that obviously provides the MAX, but is there some metric on the downside that sense for visibility into those volumes?

Peter Graham

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Yes. The flow contracts have -- typically will have contractual minimums and maximums built into the contract. But the way the disclosure is structured is only the maximum because it's a commitment contingency type disclosure that we were required to make.

David Scharf

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Are you not permitted to provide the minimum? Is that it?

Peter Graham

Analyst · JMP Securities.

We're permitted. We just choose not to.

David Scharf

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Okay, that makes it easy. Secondly, as credits normalizing and obviously some other macro factors weigh, the sellers have obviously been raising their provisions and we're monitoring delinquency roll rates. Just curious, is there any -- do you get any windows into sort of their channel preferences? And what I mean is when losses finally start to tick up, do they tend to outsource the third parties first? Or is it just every month, they're making a calculated decision between working in-house, sending the collection agencies versus selling? Like is there anything about that channel mix and from their perspective that could delay some of the paper flowing your way?

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst · JMP Securities.

I would say it depends on the seller. They all have their different preferences. And I guess I'll go out on a limb and say when they have a rolling batch of charge-offs coming through, I would say they're either going to stick to their old strategies or again, doing a global financial crisis, it felt like to me they were selling sooner. But again, I think it's really about bank preference so it depends on which one you're talking about. So probably can't generalize that.

David Scharf

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Got it. Got it. And then lastly, sure somebody kind of inquired about just the magnitude of the collection upside in the quarter. I mean I imagine we're always setting these curves cautiously enough so that hopefully that number at its lowest is 0. But just based on the macro commentary and bouncing back and forth on consumer lender calls that are all becoming a lot more cautious. I mean, should we -- I mean, just based on directionally what's going on with consumer payments and inflation and whatnot. Should that be a figure that is materially lower going forward if we had to get just for our forecasting purposes?

Peter Graham

Analyst · JMP Securities.

I've said all along when we talk about this accounting model that you got to look at it holistically and you can't separate the portfolio yield component from this change in estimate component because keep in mind, we're locking in that yield on day 1, and we don't ever change it. So the change in estimates line is akin to yield raises under the old accounting. And over time, we tend to have expansion of multiple as we move through time and we see how these deals perform. We tend to unbalance raise curves more than we lower curves. And that's why I think there'll always be something there, not too dissimilar from when we had the allowance charge component. We couldn't tell you which quarter or when it was going to happen in order of magnitude, but you could always bet that there was going to be a certain level of that year after year. I would say the same thing applies here to this. And on balance, I think it's going to be biased more towards positive just based on how our codes develop overtime. And David, just one more thing for the folks listening. I know you've been around it to start almost. But our industry, you mentioned you're listening to consumer credit calls. It's just very different. It's a very different environment. And we're dealing with consumers who are already distressed. They're already at that point rather the consumer lenders are dealing with that progression. And it's just an industry that just works that way. And you tend to get these folks that have gone through their own personal recessions. And I know you didn't catch all the script. That's why I'm saying it to you here now. And they tend to be stickier because again, we're working with them. They're -- again, just -- if everybody knows this or not, we don't charge interest and fees in the United States and the balance is static and they're chipping away at it. So just a very different environment than consumer lenders.

David Scharf

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Sorry, I just want to -- yes, that's helpful. And for portfolio income, we've been modelling some fairly consistent yields going forward. But that change in expected recovery. I guess maybe a different way to phrase it was, that's -- that was the second highest figure in 6 quarters, and maybe it's something that we would think would be narrowing a bit, I guess, on an absolute basis if [ph].

Peter Graham

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Remember, we made significant adjustments in the 2020 and 2021 related to acceleration. And we because of the uncertainty in the environment, we essentially held on all of our vintages on all of our businesses held our purchase price multiples constant and didn't allow any of that natural expansion that we normally see in a portfolio over time to occur. And so we've had continued further performance on some of the older vintages. And that gave us the confidence this quarter to modestly increase our outlook for ERC.

David Scharf

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Great. Okay, that's all I got.

Peter Graham

Analyst · JMP Securities.

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Kevin Stevenson for any closing remarks.

Kevin Stevenson

Analyst

Well, thank you very much. Again, it's a great time to be here at PRA. And we're just, again, thankful everybody, for attending the call to get caught up on us, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.