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PRA Group, Inc. (PRAA)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Mon, May 8, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good evening, and welcome to the PRA Group's First Quarter 2023 Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode through the duration of the call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this event is being recorded today. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Najim Mostamand, Vice President, Investor Relations for PRA Group. Please go ahead, sir.

Najim Mostamand

Analyst

Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me today are Vik Atal, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Pete Graham, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We will make forward-looking statements during the call, which are based on management's current beliefs, projections, assumptions and expectations. We assume no obligation to revise or update these statements. We caution listeners that these forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our expectations. Please refer to the earnings press release and our SEC filings for a detailed discussion of these factors. The earnings release, the slide presentation that we will use during today's call and our SEC filings can all be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at www.pragroup.com. Additionally, a replay of this call will be available shortly after its conclusion, and the replay dial-in information is included in the earnings press release. All comparisons mentioned today will be between Q1 2023 and Q1 2022, unless otherwise noted, and our Americas results include Australia. During our call, we will discuss adjusted EBITDA and debt-to-adjusted EBITDA for the 12 months ended March 31, 2023, and December 31, 2022. Please refer to today's earnings release and the appendix of the slide presentation used during this call for a reconciliation of the most directly comparable US GAAP financial measures to these non-GAAP financial measures. And with that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Vik Atal, our President and Chief Executive Officer.

Vik Atal

Analyst

Thank you, Najim, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this evening. It's a pleasure to be hosting my first earnings conference call as PRA's new President and Chief Executive Officer. Over the past 27 years, Steve Fredrickson and Kevin Stevenson, led PRA from its inception to becoming one of the leaders in our industry. I stepped into their shoes with humility and deep respect for all that they have accomplished. And I extend my deepest gratitude for the wisdom and insights they have shared to prepare me for this journey. I also want to thank everyone as a company for welcoming and supporting me, as I get settled into this new role on the other side of the boardroom table. It has been fantastic to engage with so many of our leaders and employees across the globe over the past few weeks. While these are still early days, I am developing a deeper understanding of the business as it stands today. And crucially, I'm gathering more insights into areas of opportunity and growth. My reviews and assessments continue to support the perspectives I had as a Board member that PRA's business is on a solid foundation. We enjoy an outstanding credibility and reputation among our customers, investors, legislators and other key stakeholders. We possess one of the industry's strongest balance sheet, which gives us significant flexibility to capitalize on our global presence and invest in geographies where we already have significant market share as well as in newer markets. We have an integrated global business with relationships with key sellers around the world and operating expertise in all the markets we operate in. We operate with a disciplined customer-centric focus that is supported by our strong compliance environment. And we have a strong base of deeply experienced employees, including…

Pete Graham

Analyst

Thanks, Vik. The first quarter was definitely a challenging period, driven largely by the impact of lower-than-expected collections in the US business on the heels of lower buying in 2021 and 2022 and which I will address in more detail shortly. Total revenues were $155 million for the quarter. Total portfolio revenue was $151 million, with portfolio income of $188 million and changes in expected recoveries of negative $37 million. During the quarter, we collected $4 million in excess of our expected recoveries meeting our expectations on a consolidated level with Europe over performing by 3%. This is a smaller margin than what we have experienced in recent quarters. Therefore, we didn't feel it prudent to adjust our curves higher in Europe. Given uncertain economic conditions globally, and we intend to be cautious in terms of our ability to raise curves throughout the year. After a strong run of 11 consecutive quarters of positive changes in expected recoveries, we experienced a negative result in the first quarter, which was largely due to underperformance in the US business. We experienced a much softer tax season than we had anticipated with US collections missing our internal forecast by $10 million, which then prompted a reduction in forward-looking RC. This resulted in a negative $31 million net present value adjustment. Nearly half of this adjustment was related to the 2021 US core vintage that we have highlighted is underperforming in prior quarters. As a reminder, this vintage includes a large cohort of consumers whose accounts were charged off in peak stimulus periods during the pandemic. We believe this effect, along with inflation and other macroeconomic factors are the drivers of this underperformance. We believe our U.S. curves are appropriately set at this time. However, given the continuing weak economic conditions, there may be…

Vik Atal

Analyst

Thanks, Pete. While we experienced in quarter one, only our second quarterly net loss since we went public due to the items that Pete discussed, we continue to generate strong cash flow with adjusted EBITDA consistent with the level we generated in quarter four. Perhaps most encouragingly, we've repurchased $230 million of non-performing loan portfolios, capitalizing on what we believe to be a gradually improving supply environment. Looking ahead, we remain focused on accelerating our efforts to execute against our strategic objectives and deliver improved financial performance as we move through the year. I believe we are well positioned to benefit from more supply, and I'm encouraged by the opportunities that lie ahead. As we look beyond 2023, I am excited about where we are heading as a company. I am committed to guiding us there together as one team that is united by the core mission and strong values that have been central to our sustained performance. Over the next few months, we will be participating in several conferences and engaging with current and prospective investors. I look forward to interacting with each and every one of you as we maintain our focus on driving shareholder value and expanding our investor base. Thank you again for joining us and for your continued support of PRA. Operator, we are now ready for questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] At this time, we will take our first question, which will come from Bob Napoli with William Blair. Please go ahead with your question.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Thank you. Good afternoon. Vik, welcome to PRA

Vik Atal

Analyst

Thank you.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

So maybe a big picture question first. I mean, what led you to accept this to take this opportunity? And what are the main things that you think you can add incrementally to the business?

Vik Atal

Analyst

Well, let me just go back and give some context. Kevin Stevenson served this company with great distinction for 25-plus years, right? And the Board and Kevin mutually agreed regarding stepping down and as part of that process, restart to me to step in as the CEO. And given my knowledge of the company, the fact I served on the Board for seven or eight years, the view I had about the talent in the organization, the opportunities for our business and understanding the situation, I readily accepted, and I'm all in.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

And I guess what incrementally do you want to -- as you look at this, what I guess, do you want to do incrementally? Is it more M&A? Is it do you think that there's more efficiencies that--

Vik Atal

Analyst

That's a good question. Thank you, Bob. So, look, as part of the Board, obviously, we've had a -- I've had a long engagement with the company and stepping in here and I'm obviously at one level drinking from a firehose, right, trying to figure out everything that goes on here is one thing to serve on a Board and operate at 30,000 to 100,000 feet and other to land at ground zero. So, I'm at ground zero now. Strategy is intact and there is no change that I am looking at or exploring or working on with regard to strategy. I think what's happening is that the macro environment is complex, at some level, challenging at some level, it provides opportunities with regard to the future buying. I think the biggest item -- or the biggest item that I'm working on with regard to what I would call overall execution, right? How do we ensure that the pace and intensity and the speed at which we operate internally is aligned with both customer expectations and market expectations, right? Our customers -- each of us is wired for instantaneous sort of interaction, right, with whatever companies are dealing with, right? You sort of buy something and you get something back in a second. And how do we sort of take that prism and bring it back into the company and drive just sharper execution and drive better performance over time. So, that's really where I see -- I'm spending a lot of my time on that, and I see that's where the opportunities are for us in the sort of near-term and then obviously, we've got to make sure that we are optimizing ourselves against our addressable market, if there are opportunities to open up the market in terms of the geographies already in that freight. M&A, I'm not spending time on M&A, but we've done M&A transactions in the past, and they've been strategic and opportunistic. And if they come down the pike, of course, we'll take a look at that. But that's not that's not the main focus of myself at this time.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

And then for Pete, I think you -- typically, when we go through cycles like this where you go through a credit cycle. The IRRs on paper, you're able to buy picks up significantly. Just wondered if you seeing that yet today? And then I think you had suggested that the cash collections in the second quarter has started off a little bit slower, and is that already built into your changes in expected recoveries?

Pete Graham

Analyst

Yes, I guess on the first point, I'd say we've seen some modest improvement in pricing as we came through the back part of last year and continuing into the first quarter. The overall collections environment in the US, in particular, this quarter was challenging. As I said in my prepared remarks, we normally -- going back pre-pandemic, we normally would have had a strong double-digit increase Q4 to Q1, easily high-teens, if not in the high 20s percentage increase quarter-over-quarter, and that was a single-digit increase this year. And so, we're attributing that to the kind of the softer tax season. There was a lot of public commentary around lower refunds, et cetera, this year as well as just the overall economic backdrop. And we set our curves every quarter with our best outlook. And we did that here in the first quarter. I think we're optimistic that things are going to perform well. But with the challenging environment, we just want to highlight that there's always a potential for more there. Not that we see anything immediately on the horizon.

Bob Napoli

Analyst

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please go ahead with your question.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Hi guys, and thanks for taking the question. Pete, when you talked about the cash collection efficiency ratio getting up to a 60% run rate by Q4. Obviously, you also talked about legal expenses maybe ramping up into Q4 and there's also a work on reduction in force in the US. I mean, is Q4 going to be kind of the peak for the year, or are all the moving parts for -- again, maybe exit at a 60% cash efficiency ratio but potentially, it's not at that level high all...

Pete Graham

Analyst

Yes. Obviously, with the start we've had, we're not likely to hit 60% for the full year. We were just trying to give some sort of trend guidance that we thought by the fourth quarter we'd be at a run rate that would generate a 60% cash efficiency ratio. So, kind of by fourth quarter we'll be there. And then my expectation is that would be kind of the floor as we move into 2024 and beyond.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And then on that pricing point, I think in your prepared remarks, I think you mentioned that a couple of sellers have pulled portfolios from the market because it wasn't hitting their pricing expectations. That tends to imply there's some resistance in the market to pricing moving much, much more in your favor. Could you tell us, I mean, how broad based is that risk that pricing moves meaningfully, the sellers just pull back. Obviously, there's a little bit of dynamic in terms of what they want to achieve in terms of the cash proceeds for these portfolios that they're selling?

Pete Graham

Analyst

Yes. That comment was directed primarily at the European market.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Okay.

Pete Graham

Analyst

Just recall that Europe tends to be kind of lumpier transaction-wise. Banks might go for a year or more and aggregate portfolios before they come to market, so some of those processes in the quarter. We observed banks bringing a deal to market and hadn't been in the market for a period of time and their expectations just need to get readjusted to pricing reality. And so that happens over time. Just at the margins that's an indication for us that there's some discipline in the competitive landscape in those markets. We weren't an outlier in terms of our bid expectations and it just didn't meet an internal pricing threshold for a bank or two here and there.

Vik Atal

Analyst

Just to supplement that, I think in the US feat, we have a reasonable view on what the seller community is thinking about. And we've got active engagement with each of them, right? We're seeing nothing here that would suggest that the volumes that we're anticipating to pick up through the rest of the year will not be part of the market opportunity for us.

Robert Dodd

Analyst

Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question will come from Mark Hughes with Truist. Please go ahead with your question.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Yeah, thank you. Good afternoon.

Vik Atal

Analyst

Hey Mark.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

You had suggested that the $31 million NPV adjustment, I guess, would the other $6 million and the changes in the expected recoveries. Is that underperformance in the quarter? Was that a US number? Why is that range?

Vik Atal

Analyst

Yeah. So we had a $10 million underperformance in the US, which then led us to adjust our forward-looking ERC downward. In total, on a consolidated level, we're $37 million negative change in estimates. The US is about $40 million negative. So we -- on a net basis, slight overperformance in Europe and some of the other geographies to claw back.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Okay. And then when you think about the underwriting of the 2021 paper, your evaluation of it, was there maybe as you look back on it, some judgment that the excess liquidity at that time might persist? Do you think it was just a -- was that a meaningful contributor to what we're seeing happening here, or is it -- do you think really the -- because I think you've pointed out that it's been pretty soft for some time. But was it a change that you observed in the quarter a very recent as driving that?

Vik Atal

Analyst

No. I mean, I think it's just the magnitude of the continued underperformance that we've experienced life to date. And the fact that it really didn't perform any differently in the tax season, as you would expect. I'd say with regards to the underwriting of that vintage, we were underwriting with pre-pandemic data. So we weren't taking into account performance during that peak liquidity period. My commentary on the consumer there is that there's potential that there was some adverse selection, it just happened naturally because of the excess liquidity and the people that charged off during that peak liquidity period maybe were less inclined to be payers. And so that's something we'll work on as we continue to work this -- the accounts that came in that cohort. Those that score appropriately as we've indicated in the commentary, those that score appropriately that haven't responded in the call centers. We'll start to move that into more of a legal collection channel. And look to build the collections over time.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

You had mentioned -- thank you for that -- the case-specific litigation accounted for most of the higher legal costs. What is that about? And would there a kind of a high-level decision, let's just get this cleaned up this quarter, or would it – yes…

Pete Graham

Analyst

As we work through the variety of ongoing litigation that we have, as and when it gets to a point where the accounting rules require us to make an accrual, we will do that. And we did have some case-specific accruals that were increased during the year just based on activity on those cases. And then we had a smaller piece of that, which was kind of final true-up versus the accrual we had at year-end for the CFPB settlement.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Was there some case, perhaps it set a precedent or a benchmark that you then had to reflect that through other cases?

Pete Graham

Analyst

No. It's just – the ongoing back and forth on any given litigation activity, but it was related to us hitting that threshold in the quarter for accrual. So we wanted to call that out, so you didn't bake it into run rate going forward.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Then one final question, if I might. The collections multiple, the US core looks like it's 1.75 times, what sort of expected return would you anticipate with that kind of collections multiple?

Pete Graham

Analyst

Well, you know that we don't disclose our IRRs. So that maybe…

Mark Hughes

Analyst

I can wonder is that sufficient to achieve your target IRRs

Pete Graham

Analyst

If we hit the underwriting curve, it will hit our expectations for returns, yes.

Mark Hughes

Analyst

Very good. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question here will come from David Scharf with JMP Securities. Please go ahead with your question.

David Scharf

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. Most have been asked. But first off, welcome aboard, Vik.

Vik Atal

Analyst

Thank you.

David Scharf

Analyst

And I was wondering maybe a follow-up to the very first question about strategic priorities. It sounds like maybe some just minor modifications around the edges, but I am curious, at the beginning of your prepared remarks, I think you made references to some of the actions that you're taking place to address some of the cyclical challenges in the US business, reduction in force, perhaps some additional outsourcing of certain activities. There was one-third I couldn't tied fast enough. Can you expand on those a little bit? Maybe just provide a little more detail

Vik Atal

Analyst

Yes, certainly, David, and delighted to start our relationship here. And I think I've mentioned in my remarks, not in the section that you're referencing, but I think later on that over the last -- and I've been here -- I think today is like six weeks of the dot, right, over the last six weeks, I've been asking and engaging with all of our senior team on end-to-end processes across the entire franchise, right? And that work is ongoing. And you can imagine that for our enterprise as broad as ours, it will take a while for me to get to the bottom of that credit. But as we go through that exercise, I pointed out sort of two examples among many that we're working on internally that came to mind, right? So one is that we -- every company goes back and forth with regards to the decision about how vertically integrated they are. And we, for example, have I think, spoken in the past, I believe, repeat about how much of our legal activity is done externally versus internally, right? We've been sort of bringing that on internally. And I've just been asking the question about what processes and activities are we doing inside the company that might be done at high quality at a variable cost base and give us some flexibility by external parties. So that's one of them that I pointed out. The other is the whole notion of ensuring that we are sort of optimized across what I would call an omni-channel type of approach. So we have phone contact, we have digital. We have legal. And I think as Pete mentioned, I believe that for a vary of reasons, we are going to be looking at expanding out our legal channel. And then I can spend the mine now but the payoff comes in time. And so if you take a longitudinal view of that, that's actually going to lift the overall efficiency and effectiveness of our business, right? So those are two examples. And then as we go forward in quarters to come, we will certainly point out progress on these items as well as talk about other processes at that we’re looking at, right.

David Scharf

Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. And I guess following up on that, I guess, for Pete, the -- clearly expanding legal collections raises the denominator or just the dollars collected, but it's a much higher cost channel historically than call center. Is the -- should we -- I know you're not trying to pin you down on guidance going out a full year, but that mid-$20 million level of legal -- upfront legal collections per quarter sounds like in the back half of the year. I mean, should we view that as an upfront investment or probably a floor even in an improving supply environment expect to spend?

Pete Graham

Analyst

Yes. I think you're accurately pointing out that, as we increase the level of portfolio we're purchasing we will naturally have an increase in the overall amount of legal spend that we've got on a quarterly basis. That will tend to lag somewhat the ramp in purchasing. We will tend to work a portfolio for six months or more in the call centers and digital before scoring for the legal channel. So that guidance for the sort of remainder of this year is really more around the investment that we already -- the portfolio we already have in the book and primarily around that addressing that underperformance we've seen early on in these recent vintages. In terms of the longer-term I think that, that will naturally increase. And so you could probably look at that as a floor going into next year with regard to the overall legal investment. And then coming back to your initial in there that it's a higher cost channel. Again, if we're scoring appropriately, there is still good return on investment for that incremental cost investment in the legal channel so -- response to your points.

David Scharf

Analyst

Understood. Got it. Maybe one last one, sort of more on the macro front. I mean, we've been hearing, obviously, for a number of months about the prospects of a lighter tax fund season and we still have a pretty robust or tight labor market, at least among kind of a lot of color payment sectors. What's your sense of the US performance, like how much is related to unique aspect of this year's refunds versus broader macro environment. I mean, it's not like the last three months, we learned about stimulus drying up and household savings. But I mean, as you reflect on kind of decreasing the forward expected ARC is it related, are you starting to see or speculate the impact of higher borrowing costs on consumers? Are there other factors? And does it incorporate certain assumptions near term about unemployment? Because clearly, this earnings season, the people you're buying from – they're hoping -- they're all baking in various year-end unemployment forecast that they share with investors that's behind their reserve rates. And curious if kind of -- since the shapes of your curve matter as much as the aggregate amount of collections, if you have a certain expectation for maybe 6 to 12 months unemployment as it impacts your yields?

Pete Graham

Analyst

Yes. We have -- I mean we're not -- we don't use macroeconomic factors in the modeling. It's more trend-based modeling current throughput and expectations for the results of recent activities that we've taken through, whether that's legal placements or lettering, et cetera. But I would say that, the overall environment is a challenging one in the US right now in prior cycles when we've gone into this part of the cycle, we have had some softness in cash collections, elongation of the collections curves, lower levels of onetime payments and more longer-term payment plans, and those are things that we are experiencing in the current environment. In terms of the adjustments we've made to the curve, yes, we again, we've focused on the near term, call it, rest of this year and into next year and making those adjustments. And our expectation is that we should be able to hit those curves if things perform the way we think they're going to, but time will tell.

David Scharf

Analyst

Got it. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Vikram Atal for any closing remarks.

Vik Atal

Analyst

Thanks, everybody, for your listening in and for your questions and your engagement, and we look forward to seeing you in the coming weeks and months. Take care. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.