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Q3 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 9, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the SeaWorld Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Matthew Stroud, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Matthew Stroud

Analyst

Thank you, Dave, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to SeaWorld's third quarter earnings conference call. Today's call is being webcast and recorded. A press release was issued this morning and is available on our Investor Relations website at www.seaworldinvestors.com. Replay information for this call can be found in the press release and will be available on our website following the call. Joining me this morning are Marc Swanson, Chief Executive Officer; and Michelle Adams, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. This morning, we will review our third quarter financial results, and then we will open up the call to your questions. Also, we have posted a short slide presentation on our investor website along with our earnings press release that we will discuss during our prepared remarks. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that our comments today will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. These statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be materially different from those forward-looking statements, including those identified in the Risk Factors section of our annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These risk factors may be updated from time to time and will be included in our filings with the SEC that are available on our website. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. In addition, on the call, we may reference non-GAAP financial measures and other financial metrics, such as adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow. More information regarding our forward-looking statements and reconciliations of non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measure is included in our earnings release available on our website and can also be found in our filings with the SEC. Now I would like to turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Marc Swanson. Marc?

Marc Swanson

Analyst

Thank you, Matthew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We are pleased to report our sixth consecutive quarter of record financial results. While we achieved records for revenue, net income and adjusted EBITDA in the quarter, these results still do not reflect a normalized operating environment and we still have significant scope to improve our execution and our financial results. We had a meaningful impact from adverse weather in the quarter, including Hurricane Ian that we estimate led to 90,000 less guest visits during the quarter. International and group visitation are still not back to pre-COVID levels. Our staffing is still not at optimized levels and inflationary pressures continue to impact our cost. We are pleased with the growth in total revenue and total revenue per capita during the quarter, which continued to demonstrate our pricing power and the strength of consumer spending in our parks. Our cost management and flow through to adjusted EBITDA for the quarter could have been better. To this end, we have enhanced and increased our efforts related to monitoring and managing costs throughout the enterprise and our initiatives to reduce costs and increase efficiencies. As we highlighted last quarter, we have several new projects and initiatives in flight that we expect will help us work to offset the unusually high inflationary pressures and become a more efficient and profitable operating business over the coming quarters. While inflationary pressures continue to exist, we expect certain cyclical supply chain related and/or temporary cost pressures to moderate over the coming quarters. We recently concluded another successful Halloween season at our parks featuring our award-winning Halloween events, which led to strong revenue growth this October compared to October, 2021 and October 2019. Revenue for October was up approximately 13% compared to 2021 and approximately 45%…

Michelle Adams

Analyst

Thank you, Marc, and good morning everyone. As Marc mentioned, our results of operations for the third quarter of 2022 and 2021 continue to be impacted by the global COVID-19 pandemic as shown in part by the decline in both international and group related attendance in both periods as compared to pre-COVID levels. The first nine months of 2021 was also impacted by capacity limitations modified in our limited operations and or part temporary park closures. My commentary today will be focused on our financial results compared to 2021, however, due to the impacts the pandemic had on our 2021 year to date third quarter results, we provide a comparison of some of our key results versus both 2019 and 2021 in our earnings release charts and will also do so in our form 10-Q. During the third quarter, we generated record total revenue of $565.2 million, an increase of $44 million or 8.4% when compared to the third quarter of 2021. The increase in revenue is due to an increase in total revenue per capita of 6.8% and an increase in attendance of 1.5%. Attendance benefited largely from an increase in demand primarily from international guests when compared to prior year, which was impacted by more severe COVID-19 related restrictions on international travel Attendance during the quarter was unfavorably impacted by adverse weather including impacts of Hurricane Ian in September, 2022, which led to closures at the company's parks in Florida and Virginia for a combined 15 operating days. We estimate adverse weather including the hurricane contributed to a decline of approximately 90,000 guests during the quarter. As Marc said, while improving, we continue to experience lingering effects of the pandemic with international and group related visitation. Still not yet. Back to pre-COVID levels in the third quarter, international…

Marc Swanson

Analyst

Thank you, Michelle, Before we open the call to your questions, I have some closing comments. In the third quarter of 2022, we came to the aid of 229 animals in need. Over our history. We have helped over 40,000 animals including bottle, nose, dolphins, manatees, sea lions, seals, sea turtles, sharks, birds, and more. I'm really proud of the team's hard work and their continued dedication to these important rescue efforts. I want to thank them and all our ambassadors for all that they do to operate our parks in this current environment. We are excited about the remainder of 2022 as we head into our post-popular Christmas holiday events. As I mentioned, over the coming weeks, our Christmas events will start in our parks. We are also really excited about our plans for 2023. While we have made good progress over the past year, we continue to believe there are significant additional opportunities to improve our execution, take advantage of clear growth opportunities, and continue to drive meaningful long-term growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA. We continue to have high confidence in our strategy and in our ability to deliver significantly improved operating and financial results that we expect will lead to meaningfully increased value for stakeholders. Now, let's take your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator instructions] First question comes from Philip Cusick with JPMorgan Chase. Please go ahead.

Philip Cusick

Analyst

Hi guys. Thank you. I guess I'll -- first wanted to start with the 2023 CapEx commentary. Do you think the $130 million to $140 million core is sort of stable next year, but the growth number could double or triple, or do you think that that core number is up as well? And then also sort of a follow up on the, the cost cutting efforts, the $25 million inflation costs that you expect to moderate. I didn't really understand why that is and how that comes into the, the numbers on slide nine. Thanks very much.

Marc Swanson

Analyst

Yeah. Hey, Phil, it's Marc. I can answer your question, so look on the CapEx. I think you heard, you heard Shell in her prepared remarks, talk about the efforts, be beyond kind of the, the core things that we've identified. So as our goal is to invest in something new in every park every year, and I laid out a number of, of rides and attractions that we're bringing to our parks, especially some of the, some of the coasters I mentioned. But then you heard her mention kind of this additional effort that we're undertaking to look at other areas that we can impact in our parks. And she mentioned like refresh venues new, new or improved animal habitats, new refresh retail venues, all those things. So yeah, I, I expect that that'll be a little bit more spend than, than maybe we've normally had in the past. But, I think we quoted $200 million in the, in, in her prepared remarks, so we're really excited about our ability to, to invest in those things, and I think it's a function of our free cash flow and the ability to, to continue to invest in the business. On the inflation efforts, what I would tell you is your, your question about cost. We have a tremendous focus on continuing to work hard on our costs, refine our efforts around cost management and cost containment, and we provided a list there as well, and there's a number of things that we will continue to do going forward with the, with those efforts.

Philip Cusick

Analyst

If I can sort of follow up on a different subject, it sounds like you look at your business because of most people drive there as a little bit more inflation resistant or recession resistant than some of your peers. How do you think about the impact of gas prices on that and what have you seen, I imagine surveying your customers over the last six months as gas prices have moved around in terms of the impact you expect over time? Thanks, thanks again.

Marc Swanson

Analyst

Yeah, thanks, Phil. So what I would tell you is what I, what I would look at what I do look at is the growth and the consumer spending in our parks. I think that's a pretty good indicator that people are coming out even in a high inflationary environment and they're spending money in our parks. And that's a testament to the, the investments we've made in our parks, the events we're doing, the offerings that we have. And so I, I feel good about our ability even in these, in these last couple quarters where we've seen inflationary impacts, obviously people are still coming out and spending in our parks.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Our next question comes from James Hardiman with Citi. Please ahead.

James Hardiman

Analyst · Citi. Please ahead.

Hi, good morning. So October , it's kind of an open-ended question, but sounds like October was really strong. We heard similar, commentary, similar uptick from one of your peers last week. I guess maybe just sounds like last October was pretty strong as well. Maybe speak to what you see going on there versus sort of the third quarter trend. And ultimately is that October run rate sustainable for the remainder of the fourth quarter?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Citi. Please ahead.

Yeah, Thanks, James. So what I can tell you is obviously October is a good the month is started around our Halloween events, which continued to be popular, and I think we saw good response to those. As you noted in our revenue as I noted and in my prepared remarks was, was up about 13% to last year. So Halloween's been strong. What I would tell you in Q3 especially towards the end of the quarter, we had, we obviously had the impact of Hurricane Ian, and, and that did bleed a little bit into, into October as well. But I think the events, continue to be popular like Halloween, what I was as far as run weight, run rate, how we think about that on a go forward basis. We'll be starting some of our Christmas events this, this this weekend, and if in some of our parks and then later on in the month at, at the rest of the parks that do Christmas. So, those events have traditionally been popular with people as well. So I don't know if it'll be the exact same run rate as October, but I do think those are compelling reasons to come and visit the park.

James Hardiman

Analyst · Citi. Please ahead.

That's helpful. And then I don't know how much you're, you're going to want to answer this one, but I figured I'd ask, as we look to 2023, I'm certainly not looking for guidance. But as we think about some of the building blocks, right, attendance per caps margin and ultimately EBITDA maybe level of confidence that each of those will grow next year, right? Obviously there's some puts and takes to each one of those numbers, but any color you could give us on your level of confidence in growth next year out of those items?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Citi. Please ahead.

Sure. So, what I can tell you is, look, we're confident in our ability to grow the business, and there's all the pillars that you had mentioned are, are things that we can kind of take them apart one at a time on attendance. We're investing in the parks, so there's new rides and attractions and, and things like that coming to our parks. We also have the additional CapEx we're spending around refreshes and new habitats and improved habitats and, and things like that in our parks. And that, that is exciting as well. So that we know new things generally drive people to parks. We have hopefully a further recovery of international attendance as well. We're, we're still not back, as we've mentioned back to the 2019 levels, I don't know when that will occur, but, but obviously when it does, that'll, that'll be a, a tailwind for us. On pricing, we continue to see strong consumer spending in our parks. I think we've done some good things around what we offer. We, we posted a slide and, and I talked about it, about the value of coming to our parks relative to maybe other entertainment options. It's a very good value to come to one of our parks, and I think that gives me confidence that we can continue to showcase that value and probably gives us opportunities, obviously to grow pricing. We also know that more and more people are wanting experiences that matter, wanting to experience things over perhaps buying things, if you will and our park, I think of specifically our parks with our world class zoological collection, we offer just some amazing experiences in our parks that you cannot get elsewhere. And I think we will continue to showcase that and highlight that…

James Hardiman

Analyst · Citi. Please ahead.

It does it, sounds like, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you think all four of those could and should be up next year.

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Citi. Please ahead.

Yeah, that our expectation would be to continue to continue to grow the business going forward, obviously. So our

Operator

Operator

Next question comes from Steve Wieczynski with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Steve Wieczynski

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Yeah, you guys, good morning. So Mark, want to want to kind of keep going here with the cost side of the equation, and look, this is the, the second quarter you guys have, have laid out kind of these costs, so called goals, and they've actually improved over the last quarter. So Marc, I guess, can you help us think about where margins could actually go over time? And I understand, look, you're not going to give me a number, I get that, but today you're running margins in that, that, let's call it low forties range and just trying to understand, what that potential could look like with a more normalized environment.

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Thanks Steve. So I can take that question. The way I think about the business, I think the way that the way the team thinks about the business is it's fairly simplistic. We grow, grow attendance a little bit each year grow our, our, our per caps a little bit each year. And look, we may have years like this where we're growing them that at a more of an outsized pace. And then if we, and then if we manage cost well if, if you do those three things that translates to, to good growth in adjusted EBITDA, So, that's how we approach it and I think we've put ourselves in a good position to be able to achieve that. And where that leads to again, I'm not going to guide you, but obviously we, we achieved higher margins last year and I think if we continue to execute on growing attendance, growing per caps and being efficient with our cost dollars there's not a reason to think we couldn't get back to that point, obviously, so.

Steve Wieczynski

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Okay. Got you. And then second question is around Slide 8, it's that potential attendance metric of laid out there in your presentation, which, that would almost be 20%, let's call it 25% higher than where attendance is kind of running today. And so, just wondering here if that metric is actually achievable and what I mean by that is if you got a tenants up into that $27 million range, would you be at that point starting to sacrifice the customer experience in terms of potential overcrowding just to have more people in the parks?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Hey, Steve. Good, good question. Well, what, what I would tell you is part, part of the reason we, we put out that slide is a couple reasons, but one to show you obviously the potential, and we showed you two things. One, the peak attendance of, of 25 million, and then kind of the, the peak of each park, which gets to the higher number that you mentioned. And look, our parks rarely operate at capacity. They're just a handful of days a year where, where we're having to shut down. So we have certainly have room to, to drive more people into our parks. And so I'm not worried about running out a room, if you will and so it's certainly something that we are as I mentioned in my prepared New Yorks, we are, we are working to recapture that loss attendance and certainly have capacity to do that.

Steve Wieczynski

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead.

Okay. Got you. Thanks guys. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Schwartz with Truist, Please go ahead.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · Truist, Please go ahead.

Hey, Yeah, good morning everyone. Maybe, and I think you, you, you laid out international attendance running something like 45% below your, your 19 levels, but maybe give us a sense of how that's been trending and then just how we should think about that going into 23 given, currency headwinds that, that international visitors may be experiencing.

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Truist, Please go ahead.

Yeah. Hey Michael, what I, yeah, what I can tell you is, international now for versus 2019 has, has been down the last couple quarters, in that 45% range. So you know where that, know, where that goes on a, on a go forward basis, we'll, we'll have to see. I don't know when it will become more of a, more of a tailwind, but certainly we want to obviously see more international attendance come back, but, but that's really -- there's a lot of factors that impact that and we'll look for opportunities obviously to offset as much of that as we can until it does come back.

Michael Swartz

Analyst · Truist, Please go ahead.

Okay, thanks. And then follow up question, just on the October revenue figures you gave, I'm just trying to understand whether those are apples, apples relative to the number of operating days and in, 2021 and 2019. I mean, how, how much difference in operating days were there this year versus those periods?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Truist, Please go ahead.

What I can tell you is we ran versus 21, similar Halloween events, there would be a slight pickup from the park in San Diego Sesame Place that is new this year. But I think even stripping that out, we still feel good about the revenue increase and then versus 2019, yeah, we've added, we've added more of the events, if you will. So we did not have the night-time stream in Orlando and in California. And we also brought back a, a little bit better version of it, I think in, in Texas. So certainly that helped us. And that's what we're focused on is, is driving total, total revenue and we'll continue to focus on that. The other thing I would, I would just remind you, I kind of said this already, but early October was still impacted by hurricane I, so that had a, that had a negative impact. I don't have an exact number to share with you, but that had a, that had a negative impact as well. So we put those numbers, we achieved that revenue growth. I guess even with that impact,

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Woronka with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Chris Woronka

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Hey good morning everyone. I, I know we've already talked a lot about attendance, but just going back to that where we are today versus the $3 million or $5 million delta of 2008 or all prior parks, and I know you don't solve exclusively for attendance, but, is that -- are there initiatives we don't know about yet that are, that are driving that and is that more of a, maybe more of a pricing action to, to get there? Or, or is it more on the marketing side?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Yeah, I think Chris, what you're asking is kind of how, how do we think about recapturing the, the attendance we, we've lost over, over, versus either 2008 or, or versus when the parks are at their peak. And I think there's, there's a couple ways to think about it. One is, we'll continue to invest in our parks and we've, we've been very clear that our stated goal is to have something new in our parks each year. And, and again, in 2023, we're going to have new things in, in each of our parks, as I mentioned. And we know that's an important component of, of people visiting. We're also investing, beyond that in, in venues and refreshes and, and things like that that, that shell talked about. And I think that, that, that helps us also you mentioned marketing, I think that's certainly a component of it. We have the CRM system that is still relatively new to us and will continue to harness the power of that, if you will. I also think just in general, we have opportunities to be more efficient in our marketing messaging and how we communicate things and promote our parks to our guests. So it's kind of a total package of all sorts of things that are going to drive us to hopefully recapturing that, that loss attendance.

Chris Woronka

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Okay. Thanks Marc. And the follow up is on costs. And going back to that slide nine, is there any specific timing around that 30 to 50 million? And also are there any offsets to that aren't necessarily on the slide?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

Yeah, what I can tell you is, we are working on those things right now, so, these would be things that we would endeavor to impact on the quarters going forward here, right? So these are things we're working on right now and should benefit us as we go into next year. I think the offsets look, we're still in an inflationary environment and so I think a lot of ability to answer that questions going to be determined by what, what happens with inflation. We have things that are, that are still going up. We know certain energy prices, for example, are going to go up here in Florida, but we see other things moderating and we know, for example, that freight is moderating very much we see that in our numbers. So I think a lot will depend on kind of more of the macro inflationary environment if there's offsets. But we're going to do our part to identify and, and execute on the things that we've listed on that chart and, and work on those.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Barton Crockett with Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.

Barton Crockett

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.

Hi. I guess there were, there were two things I was curious about. One is you guys flagged the nine point I think nearly 10% kind of decline versus 2019 in attendance, but up 2% adjusted for a series of items that included the 90,000 from weather. I was wondering if you could break down the other elements of the delta between the up to and down 10 how much it was international, how much was group just so we kind of understand that. And then, beyond kind of the numbers I was just kind of curious because last night Disney reported and said that international attendance is back to their pre pandemic norm of 18% to 22% of the attendance in Orlando. Which would seem to be there would seem to be no reason why you guys wouldn't share in that trend, but apparently aren't. I was wondering if you could talk to, whether you think there might be some sustained difference between the two of you or whether what Disney is seeing is maybe a harbinger for it. You guys will see.

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Hey, Barton, it's Marc. I can take that question. So look on the attendance, I mean, we, we called out, I don't know that we'll get more specific than what we've already called out. There's, there was versus 19, a couple of impacts international group and then, and then obviously the, the, the calendar shift in there when you get to kind of the more year to date comparison of the first nine months of '21 versus '19, the calendar impact tends to normalize out a little bit more. So that, that may help you. And then obviously you have the weather impact as well. So on look on the international attendance I don't know that I can speak to, to what, to what Disney's doing. I can tell you that, we will continue to promote the our parks here in Orlando and our differentiated product and the things that we can offer that, that are, are different than what they offer. So we'll, we'll continue to work on that. And historically for us, international attendance has not been or has been roughly 10% of the total company's attendance. So there, there's might be more if you will, but our goal is to try to drive more continue to capture international attendances and when it more hopefully fully comes back, we'll be able to do that.

Operator

Operator

Right next question comes from Paul Golding with Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Paul Golding

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Thanks so much and congrats on the quarter. I wanted to ask sort of along those lines, but maybe in a, in a different category around timing. When do you, is there any call you can give around when you typically start to see these longer lead time bookings come on with respect to group or international do they trend in line with season pass purchases or is it, what the lead time might look like, could help inform sort of when we should start to see this come back on? So any color around that?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Yeah look, one of the, one of the challenges we have maybe a little bit different than, than some of our other, other parks that are in Orlando is we, we don't have hotels and things like that. So our view into the future is a little more limited if you will. And we, I think in general tend to see, I'm speaking generally here. I think we tend to see people book closer in to their visit than maybe again, some of the destination parks, whether it be Disney or Universal. So I don't have any specific numbers to share with you though on, on that. Okay.

Paul Golding

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead.

All right. And then on the cost side with respect to shell's numbers on the $20 million to $25 million of Q3 costs expected to moderate that or inflation related etcetera, is there any call you could give on a split of what might be fixed versus variable out of that bucket? Even if it's not numerical, but just directional? Thanks.

Michelle Adams

Analyst · Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Sure, I can take that one. Thanks for the question, Paul. So on the inflationary cost, I had referenced the approximately $20 million to $25 million of expenses we, we had received in Q3 of '22 compared to '19. And a lot of those costs were related to labor and wage pressures above normal inflation. We also saw our increases in rates in utilities, energy insurance, transportation and shipping, and then also some of the commodities within food and beverage and retail items. So as Marc had mentioned, we are starting to see some moderation in those pieces from freight and shipping, but we're also continuing to see increases in utilities. As you mentioned, there's some increases in utilities from Florida specifically, but we are, we do have some investments specifically related to address that, like our solar project that we are getting ready to kick off in one of our parks. So overall we, we do think that those are moderating and we'll continue to see that, but they are moderating into the, as we go into the next quarters.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ben Chaiken with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Ben Chaiken

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Hey, how's it going? Let's try, let's try a different one. In Abu Dhabi, you guys have a large attraction opening up in '23. It's been somewhat of a black box, I would say, for the market. Can you help us frame this a little bit, not in terms of size of the project, but more so is this like a hotel management contract? Are you tied to revenue profitability? Both. And then one quick follow up.

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Yeah. Hey, Ben. I can give you some, some feedback on that question. Look, we're excited that the park there will, is expected to open in, in 2023. And I think it really showcases kind of what the, what the next generation of a sea world could, could, could be and will be. And it brings our brand to a whole another part of the world. So it is like, as you mentioned, kind of what I'll call a capital light arrangement, if you will. And, and we would have, we would share, in a licensing agreement with them. I think until we get that open, it, it's a little bit too early to guide you to anything, but I think you can look for maybe future updates in, in the coming quarters on that.

Ben Chaiken

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Got you. I appreciate it. And then on the buyback, I think is the plan moving forward to continue to buyback more than you're generating a pre cash flow for the time period? Just get, I guess a perceived dislocation?

Marc Swanson

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Yeah. What I would tell you then is, like we do throughout the year, we'll work with our board and our advisors on what the best use of cash is for shareholders. And so I can't guide you to anything, but other than that, we will work to deliver what we believe is the highest and best return to our shareholders.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Marc Swanson for any closing remarks.

Marc Swanson

Analyst

Thank you, Dave. On behalf of Shell and the rest of the management team at SeaWorld Entertainment, want to thank you for joining us this morning. As you heard today, we are confident in our long term strategy, which we believe will drive improved operating and financial results and long term value for stakeholders. Thank you and we look forward to speaking with you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.