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Pursuit Attractions and Hospitality, Inc. (PRSU)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 9, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, My name is Jayla and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Viad Corp's Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After this speaker's remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Carrie Long, you may begin your conference.

Carrie Long

Analyst

Good afternoon and thank you for joining us for Viad's 2024 third quarter earnings conference call. During the call, you will hear from Steve Moster, our President and CEO; Ellen Ingersoll, our Chief Financial Officer; and David Barry, President and future CEO of Pursuit. As they discuss our business performance and outlook, they will reference specific pages from our earnings presentation, which is available on the Investors section our website. And before I turn the call over to Steve, I would like to draw your attention to pages two and three of our presentation, which contain important disclosures regarding the use of non-GAAP measures and forward-looking statements that we will provide during the call. And now I'll turn it over to Steve who will start on page four of our presentation.

Steve Moster

Analyst

Thanks, Carrie, and thanks for all of you for joining our call. I'd like to start off by discussing our three key business highlights and updates. First, I'm happy to report that both Pursuit and GES delivered very strong performance during the third quarter. Pursuit's adjusted EBITDA came in near the high end of our guidance range. Outside of Jasper, we continued to see strong demand for our attractions and lodges and the iconic locations in which we operate. GES' adjusted EBITDA was above our guidance with impressive revenue growth and margin improvement. We successfully serviced our major non-annual shows during this quarter and remained focused on disciplined cost management. Second, I'm also pleased to announce that we recently completed a $15.9 million tuck-in acquisition for Pursuits Glacier Park Collection to expand our successful offering in that area. And third, we are on track to complete the transformative sale of GES by the end of the year. This transaction will establish Pursuit at a pure play, high growth and high margin business. Standalone Pursuit will have the financial flexibility and the balance sheet to accelerate its Refresh, Build, Buy growth strategy and capitalize on its substantial growth prospects in the hospitality and attraction space. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Ellen who will review our third quarter financial performance. Ellen?

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst

Thanks, Steve. I'll start on Page 6 with our consolidated third quarter results. Revenue of 455.7 million increased 25% year-over-year. Consolidated adjusted EBITDA of 103.1 million increased 16.9 million and adjusted net income improved by 16.5 million. Our GAAP basis net income attributable to Viad of 48.6 million was 7.3 million higher than the 2023 third quarter, primarily reflecting stronger performance at GES, partially offset by non-cash impairment charges and consulting costs related to the pending sale of GES. As shown on Page 7, Pursuit delivered third quarter revenue of 182.3 million, adjusted EBITDA of 86.3 million and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 47.4%. Revenue and adjusted EBITDA were down 4.7 million and 5.5 million respectively from the prior year due to temporary closures and disruption caused by wildfire activity at Jasper National Park. Our Jasper Lodges & Attractions experienced a revenue decline of 21.9 million year-over-year, which was largely offset by 13% revenue growth from our experiences outside of Jasper National Park. On a same store basis, which excludes the Jasper Properties, attractions ticket revenue grew 16% and room revenue grew 9% driven by strong effective ticket prices and ADRs as well as increased demand for our experiences. As shown on Page 8, GES delivered consolidated revenue of 273.4 million, adjusted EBITDA of 20.2 million and an adjusted EBITDA margin of 7.4%. Consolidated revenue and adjusted EBITDA were up 94.5 million and 22.2 million respectively from the prior year, reflecting strong growth at both Spiro and GES exhibitions. Spiro revenue of 82.2 million increased 40% year-over-year, primarily due to strong client spending on major non-annual shows which added $34 million of revenue to the quarter. GES exhibitions revenue increased 60% primarily due to about 71 million of revenue from major non-annual shows, which outperformed our expectations. Next on Page…

David Barry

Analyst

Thanks, Ellen. I'll start with a quick update on Jasper's reopening following the wildfire activity. As you're already aware, we lost one structure to the fire, our Maligne Canyon Wilderness Kitchen. Fortunately, all of our other facilities are intact and we were able to reopen seven out of eight hotels in Jasper during the third quarter. Road access to our Maligne Lake Cruise attraction was not restored until after the end of the operating season, making it impossible for us to reopen that attraction this year. Pyramid Lake Lodge remains closed as we repair some minor damage from fire protection efforts and this property will reopen prior to the busy holiday season. Our attractions and hospitality experiences at the Columbia Icefield reopened on August 9th once the Icefield Parkway road closure was lifted. We were very pleased with the number of attraction visitors that came through during September and it was only down about 5% from 2023. With all of our lodges back online, we expect to resume more typical guest occupancy levels as we head into the upcoming ski season in Jasper. Our Jasper room night reservations on the books for the fourth quarter are at about 90% of the prior year and our first quarter 2025 reservations are tracking slightly higher than 2024 as of this same time last year. The booking pace is encouraging and demonstrates the perennial demand for this iconic destination. There are several market drivers that give us confidence in Jasper's return to historic business levels. So firstly, Jasper sits at a really important crossroads for leisure travelers visiting the Canadian Rockies. For our tour and travel partners, Jasper is key to successful multistate journeys as it is perfectly located in a beautiful national park and facilitates tour and travel guests overnighting on a…

Steve Moster

Analyst

Thanks, David. Before we open up the call for questions, I want to provide a quick update on GES and the pending sale of that business to Truelink Capital. I want to start by thanking the GES team for their dedication to consistently delivering excellent results for our clients and shareholders and for the extra energy invested to ensure a successful sale transaction. Page 18 highlights the financial success that GES has achieved and the strong execution of the team to drive margin expansion and revenue growth. We continue to see strong demand for exhibitions and experiential marketing services and the GES team is laser focused on executing our clients’ experiences and delivering double digit revenue growth with an EBITDA margin of about 9% in 2024. Our efforts to transform GES' cost structure and leverage our industry leading position have set GES up for ongoing success under Truelink's ownership. As noted on page 19, we're on track to complete the sale of GES to Truelink on December 31. As a standalone business within Truelink's business portfolio, GES will gain greater execution flexibility and access to capital to invest in the company's existing service offering while pursuing growth both organically and through strategic acquisitions. And for Viad shareholders, this transaction will unlock our high growth, high return Pursuit business as a pure play company with stronger growth prospects, a strong balance sheet to fund growth and a proven management team ready to continue executing. The proceeds from this transaction will allow us to reset our capital structure. We intend to fully retire Viad's high cost Term Loan D and Revolver Debt and put the excess cash on our balance sheet to fund near-term growth initiatives for Pursuit. The combination of very low leverage, excess cash and a new undrawn revolver will give Pursuit immediate firepower to accelerate growth and enhance shareholder value through our proven Refresh, Build, Buy strategy. This is a very exciting next chapter for Viad, soon to be renamed Pursuit. I want to extend a huge thanks to all the team members across GES, Spiro, Viad and Pursuit for their efforts to deliver the best possible results and help us reach this pivotal milestone. And thank you to our shareholders for your continued support. It's been an incredible journey and we're very excited about what Pursuit can accomplish in the near future. With that, let's open up the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Tyler Batory. Your line is now open. .

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Good afternoon. Thank you. So my first question is actually on the FlyOver side of things. Can you talk a little bit more about FlyOver Chicago, FlyOver Las Vegas, where we are in the ramp of those two assets? Is Chicago at this point a positive contributor to EBITDA? And then a little bit more big picture when you look farther out. I mean, do you still see FlyOver, the platform, overall as a growth engine for you and do you think that makes sense in this new the new Pursuit entity?

David Barry

Analyst

Hi Tyler. A couple of things. So yes, Chicago is on a positive track and doing well. As we look into the future, as I mentioned in previous calls, we're working on stabilizing all of those businesses and getting them to optimum performance. They take a long time to build. They take a long time to come out of the ground. We're very proud of the experiences that we have. They have tremendous guest satisfaction ratings. We're going to work to optimize them, but we do not plan on deploying capital into creating future FlyOver locations right now. We've got lots to focus on, on the iconic location side of the business.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Okay, perfect. And switching gears to Jasper and you gave a lot of very helpful details there. I'm interested if you can talk a little bit more about the tour travel side of things. I'm not sure if there's any incremental details, anecdotes, et cetera, that you could provide. Just given the conversations you're having with some of those folks, I'm not sure when they look towards 2025, if their plans have changed at all given the wildfires. And I'm also interested on the long haul side of things. When you look towards next year, is there the possibility that we start to recover some of that lost business? And I'm sure any details in terms of numbers you could provide, just trying to frame out what that might look like next year in terms of the impact of some of that long haul completion coming back?

David Barry

Analyst

Yeah, I mean, we view it as a return to normal. We have strong demand from our tour and travel partners. Remember that we're immersed in this as a company, right. We experienced the fires, we evacuated guests and everything else. But on a world scale, this is something that happened very quickly in a blip of news. So our initial modeling anticipates the 2025 travel trade revenue in Jasper to be up about 12% from the 2023 year, which is encouraging. We don't see anyone dropping Jasper on itineraries. As I mentioned in my remarks, one thing that's important to know is if you've got itineraries that you've booked with guests coming all across Western Canada, you need Jasper as a pivotal overnight destination because of where it sits geographically between the other main centers of tourism. So, the demand for Jasper is strong. What's actually a little bit tough right now is that you've got 18% of 400 keys that have come out of inventory. And so now tour and travel partners who had booked those hotels over time are scrambling to be able to fill their itineraries. So I anticipate that our mix of tour and travel actually might be a little overweight, as we work to accommodate demand through the summer of 2025. But we see no lessening of demand. We see no impact of stay away from Jasper, it needs time to recover. We see the opposite that people are excited to come, they want to support Jasper. That reflects in the first quarter pacing that we're seeing in lodging where we're actually tracking ahead there. So we're encouraged by what we're seeing in terms of recovery.

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst

Tyler, I might add just one more thing.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Go ahead.

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst

Sorry. During -- in our earlier remarks, we did talked about how much revenue was down in Jasper during the third quarter year-over-year might give you a bit of a sense of what recovery could look like. And again 2023 probably wasn't the strongest of years for us, but the year-over-year dip from Jasper in the third quarter was about 22 million in revenue.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Okay. Okay, great. And thank you for highlighting that. I think the last question for me, and I'll keep it more generic because I know, I mean, I'm asking for guidance and I can't give guidance for next year. Just trying to think through the EBITDA margin and you'll be a stabilized EBITDA margin if you -- I think in the past you'd kind of given some, I don't want to call them targets per se, but given some aspirations in terms of what you think you EBITDA could be like at Pursuit. So just wanted to see if we could revisit those, please and just talk about where you think EBITDA margin at Pursuit could go in the future.

David Barry

Analyst

You know, we anticipate that without factoring in the public company burden that we will be on the 30% mark for 2025 and we're working through the process now as we integrate some things and work on the business transition, but we're enthusiastic of where Pursuits margin is going to be and feel good about that going forward.

Tyler Batory

Analyst

Okay, great. I'll leave it there. Thank you for the detail.

Steve Moster

Analyst

Thanks, Tyler.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bryan Maher with the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Thank you and good afternoon. Just a couple from me. As it relates to Jasper and the lack of those 400 rooms, is it safe to assume that you should be running pretty close to full occupancy for the next couple of quarters as construction crews and cleaning up and displaced residents own the place to stay? I mean, how should we think about that relative to prior years?

David Barry

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

You're going to have some seasonality, Bryan. And as an example, for instance, construction workers potentially going home on weekends and other things back to where they live and then coming back during the week. So it will be a little lumpy, but I think what's important to note is, as you think to next summer, given that you have that removal of rooms, you're going to have very significant compression for summer 2025 in the Jasper market.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Okay. And as it relates to modeling, right, so it's nice that you're making this very clean separation on 12/31. So I'm assuming, and this is a silly question, we're just going to model out GES through the end of the year, then take it out, Pursuit is standalone starting January 1st. But where do we put the transaction-related costs? Are they all going to be completed in the fourth quarter? Is there going to be some spillover into the first quarter and can you quantify that across quarters?

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

On the transaction related costs, most of the costs will be in 2024, some of them will spill over into 2025. So we're going to have some transition costs for IT. We're going to have some cash retention awards in 2025, but most of the costs will be in 2024.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Can you give us a zip code on those numbers? Is it a couple of million? Is it 10 million? Is it 5 million? Like how should we be thinking about that?

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Right. So the transaction cost that we talked about relating to what will come out of the proceeds was about $20 million.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

And is it safe to maybe do 15 million in the fourth and 5 million in the first, something along those lines?

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

No, it would be about 20 million as of yearend and then another 5 million to 6 million in 2025.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Okay, perfect. And then the insurance proceeds from Jasper, I was pleased to hear that you're already receiving money there. You said 4.7 million in the third and 6 million total to date. Where do we find that on the P&L?

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

The proceeds that came in, so some of it is offset against the impairment. So right now we have -- how much is on the balance sheet? [Multiple Speakers].

Carrie Long

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Everything is on the balance sheet. There is nothing in here other than the impairment.

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

We had impairment and we had recoveries that offset that P&L but you are not going to see any on the P&L, currently it is on balance sheet. So as we recover BI going forward, you'll see that as a separate line item on the P&L.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Going forward, I guess starting in the fourth quarter, first quarter?

Ellen Ingersoll

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Right, starting in the fourth quarter. Any proceeds we receive, we'll break that out on the P&L.

Bryan Maher

Analyst · the company B. Riley. Bryan, your line is now open.

Okay, perfect. Thank you. That's all for me.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Alex Fuhrman with the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. David. It seems like every quarter this year, we've kind of heard about the Sky Lagoon being really strong demand and different measures you're taking to capture that demand. And no matter what you do, it seems like there's just more and more demand there. I was wondering if you could maybe give us a little bit of a sense for those of us that haven't been out there. Can you describe to us kind of what is the opportunity to expand on that property? Is there enough space in the area to potentially build a boutique hotel to leverage all of the demand and the strong location? Really impressive results in the third quarter from Sky Lagoon, just wondering how much more there could be to go there as you look at the future.

David Barry

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

Sure. I'd be happy to walk you through some stuff. So a couple of things to remember, right, just to recenter on what we've actually done. So at Sky Lagoon, we realized as things continued and momentum was building, that the higher end experience, which is called fuel, which is the whole turf house experience, between the steam shower and the salts and the salt scrub and the sauna and all of the different aspects of cold plunge and so on, it had a throughput issue and it was incredibly popular. But we were turning guests away from a higher end product because we had throughput issues. So the first problem we solved was to make the whole experience in the turf house incredibly beautiful, larger and just magnificent. So now instead of one sauna that seats 50 beautiful people staring at the ocean, there's two. And there's a combination of just improvements to that facility. What that allows you to do is to sell more of our higher end product, which is the ritual, and to really encourage guests and it drives length of visitation, it drives guest satisfaction levels and so on. Remember that it's an Opco and Propco partnership, right, where we work with our Icelandic partners who are the landowners there. So there are opportunities for development and it would be something we might consider, we may not consider as time goes on, and so no commitment today as to what we might be envisioning there, other than there continues to be opportunity to expand the product, continue to have opportunity to work on the various brand aspects of it. But we're really, really pleased with how the design and operational efforts have brought it to fruition.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

Okay, that's really helpful, thank you. And then if I could just follow up on Jasper and the Canadian Rockies, it seems like you now have a pretty good handle, at least for the off season here, of how demand is shaping up and what that's looking like in the new world in which a lot of your competitors are offline for a few years. Curious what you're seeing in terms of rates. And then even more importantly, I guess I'm curious to what extent the dent of supply of hotel rooms in Jasper is impacting the rest of the region. Are you seeing more people booking in Banff and elsewhere in the Rockies? Curious if that could potentially drive more overnight guests to Waterton Lakes or even to Golden.

David Barry

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

Well, I think the interesting thing, Alex, is that recovery is happening very quickly. So seven out of eight hotels in Jasper are back open and hosting guests and excited to do it. We have Pyramid Lake Lodge undergoing a few repairs, but it'll be open for the Christmas holidays, and we anticipate a busy winter season. Our pacing for the first quarter for that part of the ski season is doing well. So we think we're going to have continued demand, and that's going to drive, obviously, pressure and compression within the market that we'll work to adjust to. It will take several years for those 400 keys to be rebuilt. And so what's important is we're focused on how do we provide the support to our tour and travel partners, provide great experiences for guests, and make the needed improvements that we're doing. Our Q4 rates are up from this time last year, and so we're excited about that. And we anticipate that we'll have continued rate growth through the beginning of 2025 and obviously through summer 2025.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

That's great. Thank you very much.

David Barry

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

So welcome. And you need to go to Iceland.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst · the company Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Alex, your line is now open.

Yeah, for sure.

Operator

Operator

Again, if you would like to ask a question, it is star followed by one. There are no further questions at this time. Steve Moster, I turn the call back over to you.

Steve Moster

Analyst

All right, that concludes our call for today. So thank you very much for your interest in our business, and we will talk to you at the end of the next quarter. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day.