Grier Eliasek
Analyst · National Securities Corp. Please go ahead
Two pieces, one, student housing, there are similarities with multifamily, there are some differences as well. We have only pulled the trigger on one portfolio transaction over many years for a reason. And that is, if you look at the demographic trends, we are not having significant population growth and that includes overall college enrollments. There is school shutting down. There is schools with shrinking enrollments, you want to be very careful about that. There are other schools, usually the larger ones, larger state schools et cetera that are not experiencing declines. And so logically if you want to prioritize that and analyze the supply and demand characteristics very carefully. Multifamily more broadly speaking is the much bigger market where we have made many more investments. And on the question of exiting versus new investments, the answer -- we conclude is both. That it's a bottoms up analysis on any individual property on how to optimize it including the exit which has come to-date in two forms. One, by recapitalizing the asset and taking a substantial distribution to ourselves based on performance of the asset and the growth, then the value of the junior capital account. It's driven by two things. One, rising rents -- really three things. Rising rents, rising occupancies and three the refurbishment value-add program because we are generally focusing on Class B properties with some A's to them and therefore upside through our CapEx refurbishment program. So, we see on a macro basis, positive factors, there has not been a significant over build of work force housing in our country, the multifamily supply additions had been largely skewed towards luxury, high rent end of things that's just not where we've focused. And then, you have dynamics coming out on alternatives for home purchases for multifamily migration and increasing costs there, difficult to getting financing, difficulty with supply et cetera. And then, the demographic trends of seniors who want to downsize into apartments as well as an increasing trend. So there is a lot of positive -- and if you see any pick-up in inflation that seem to be a positive for rents. So, we see a lot of things there, we monitor it carefully but it's really much more of a bottoms up individual property basis and we benefit from having dozens and dozens of properties and making the best decisions we determine in conjunction with our management team co-investor for each one.