Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Second Quarter of 2024 Parsons Corporation Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. I would now -- I would like now to turn the conference over to Dave Spille, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good. Thanks, Michelle. Good morning. And thank you for joining us today to discuss our second quarter 2024 financial results. Please note that we provide a presentation slides on the Investor Relations section of our website. On the call with me today are Carey Smith, Chair, President and CEO; and Matt Ofilos, CFO. Today, Carey will discuss our corporate strategy and operational highlights, and then Matt will provide an overview of our second quarter financial results, as well as a review of our increased 2024 guidance. We then will close with a question-and-answer session. Management may also make forward-looking statements during the call regarding future events, anticipated future trends and the anticipated future performance of the company. We caution you that such statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward-looking statements due to a variety of factors. These risk factors are described in our Form 10-K for fiscal year ended December 31, 2023, and other SEC filings. Please refer to our earnings press release for Parsons’ complete forward-looking statement disclosure. We do not undertake any obligation to update forward-looking statements. Management will also make reference to non-GAAP financial measures during this call and we remind you that these non-GAAP financial measures are not a substitute for the comparable GAAP measures. And now we’ll turn the call over to Carey.

Thank you, Dave. Good morning and welcome to Parsons second quarter 2024 earnings call. We are very pleased with our second quarter and year-to-date results and what the entire Parsons team continues to accomplish. Over the last three years, we have transformed the company into a high-value solutions provider that differentiates by leveraging software and cutting-edge technologies, such as artificial intelligence, cloud computing and advanced signal processing. This transition has enabled us to deliver record financial results, industry-leading organic revenue growth in both segments, improved win rates and a demonstrated ability to win larger and higher-margin contracts. Also, our strong balance sheet and free cash flow are enabling us to continue to make internal investments and accretive acquisitions that support our long-term growth and margin expansion goals, as well as strengthen our capabilities in both segments. These accomplishments are the result of our clear strategic intent and ability to execute. Our purpose-built Federal Solutions portfolio is addressing national security threats from near-peer adversaries that are becoming increasingly aggressive. Our technology-driven Infrastructure portfolio and our strong market position are enabling us to take advantage of the unprecedented global Infrastructure spending. As our financial results demonstrate, we are executing on our strategy and delivering on our customers’ missions and the benefits of our portfolio transformation have allowed us to capitalize on the tailwinds that are positively impacting both our Federal Solutions and Critical Infrastructure segments. For the second quarter, we’ve delivered record results for all three major financial metrics, including total revenue, adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flow. This is the 10th consecutive quarterly record for revenue and the 11th consecutive quarterly record for adjusted EBITDA. For the quarter, we generated $1.7 billion in revenue for the first time in our company’s history and delivered organic revenue growth of 22%. This is…

Thank you, Carey. As Carey indicated, our momentum continued through the second quarter of 2024 and was highlighted by record results for total revenue, adjusted EBITDA and operating cash flow. We are very pleased with the growth we achieved given our record results in the second quarter of 2023 resulting in a tough comparable period for the second quarter of 2024. Additionally, our growth was consistent across the portfolio as we experienced double-digit total revenue growth in all business units and major geographies. Turning to our results, second quarter revenue of $1.7 billion increased $314 million or 23% from the prior year period and was up 22% on an organic basis. For perspective, the significant growth was achieved off our record second quarter in 2023, where we grew $348 million or 34%. Organic growth for the second quarter was driven by continued ramp up on recent contract awards and execution on our backlog programs, including significant growth from our critical infrastructure protection, cyber and urban development markets. SG&A expenses for the second quarter were 13.4% of total revenue, compared to 15.6% in the prior year period, as we continue to focus on efficient growth across the portfolio, while investing in the future through technology, business development, and hiring and retention initiatives. Adjusted EBITDA of $150 million increased $32 million or 27%, and adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 30 basis points to 9%. These year-over-year increases were driven primarily by higher volume on margin of creative contracts, program execution and a deliberate focus on indirect cost management. As with revenue, our adjusted EBITDA growth was compared to a very strong second quarter in 2023 where we experienced growth of 53% over the prior year period. Even with the strong performance last year, we outperformed in 2024. On a year-to-date basis, adjusted EBITDA…

As some of you may know, this month is my three-year anniversary as the CEO of Parsons. As I reflect over the last three years, I am very proud of what the entire Parsons team has accomplished. We have a laser-focused strategy that has transformed the company into a solutions provider that differentiates with software and advanced technology. We intentionally position the company in six enduring, growing and profitable end markets. This has resulted in record revenue, profitability and cash flow, industry-leading organic revenue growth, improved win rates and a demonstrated ability to move up the value chain and win larger and more profitable jobs. In addition, we continue to lead with technology transformation in critical areas, including cyber, artificial intelligence, space, electronic warfare, advanced transportation systems and emerging contaminants. I’m extremely pleased with our last three years of performance, which is a direct result of our 18,500 employees focused on delivering our customers’ critical missions.

Operator, you can open the line for questions, please.

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Hey. Good morning, guys, and thank you very much.

Good morning, Sheila.

Carey, congrats on your three-year anniversary.

Thank you.

So -- and good job great job on margins up 40 bps. But the guidance was unchanged at 8.9%. So maybe if you could just talk about how we should think about profitability, because it’s been an issue in the rest of the sector as your new winds ramp given your organic growth?

Yeah. Thanks, Sheila. So first, I would say we are pleased with our profit. We’re up 90 basis points year-to-date, we were up 30 basis points for this quarter and we expect to be up 40 basis points for the year. In addition, as we look forward, we expect to be up 20 basis points to 30 basis points each year and years after. So I think we’ve done a great job of expanding margin. Plus, our EBITDA dollars have been growing faster than our revenue growth. In this quarter, we were at 27% versus 23% on revenue growth. We do feel on the Critical Infrastructure side we can still get further margin expansion. Eventually, that’s a business that we expect to be double digits. We do have one legacy program remaining that we expect to wrap up in the third quarter, and once that’s behind us, we expect that we’ll see some additional tailwinds.

Great. And then if I could ask one more on the unbooked pipeline, that’s been really helpful. But I believe it came down from $14 billion to $13 billion. So kind of how do you think about unbooked pipeline coming into the backlog and how we think about that, the cadence of conversion there?

Yeah. Thanks. Great question, Sheila. It was $14 billion. Now it’s just over $13 billion. We converted two programs, which we announced on the call, the TEAMS and the CEOIS. Those were previously in that award and not booked. So those converted during the quarter. We do expect -- as we get new awards, that gets replenished and that’s a metric that we’re going to continue to track. So it is very important since we don’t reflect that $13 billion in our $8.8 billion backlog or in our bookings.

Got it. Thank you so much and great quarter.

Thank you.

Thanks, Sheila.

And the next question comes from Tobey Sommer with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Thank you. Could you please discuss any programs or contracts that are winding down or coming to some sort of natural completion and contrast that with any new wins that are ramping that could provide a basis for a sequential revenue trajectory in the second half of the year?

Yeah. And the ones that are winding down, it’s about $86 million this year and we tend to run about $100 million on any given year, and it’s really three contracts that comprise that. The ones that are ramping up, I would say the GSA $1.2 billion awards that we had over a year ago, we’re starting to see some ramp up there. We continue to do well in all of our cyber work across various contracts, CCMS, CS, and others. That’s been a strong 25% growth for us. Also on the Infrastructure side of the house, I’ve mentioned all the Middle East wins that we’ve had, including the additional $160 million that we received this quarter. That’s been strong. And North America winning our three largest programs within the last 12 months have all ramped up, and that’s obviously what’s been a key contributor to driving such strong organic growth across both business segments.

Thanks. Could you also discuss maybe put a little bit more color on the decline in backlog and slower bookings in the quarter and your expectations for contract activity and bookings as you look into the second half of the year?

Sure. So backlog was relatively flat. Book-to-bill, as you’re aware, is lumpy. We had a very strong book-to-bill of 1.4 times in Q1, followed by 0.9 times in Q2. So, year-to-date, we’re doing very well at 1.12 times. I would also highlight that both segments are over 1.1 times year-to-date. And then trailing 12 months for Parsons has been greater than 1.0 times. And once again, both segments are over 1.0 times. I think bookings are interesting. I think organic revenue growth is what really matters and we’re really pleased that we’ve had five consecutive quarters or greater than 20% growth. On the backlog, I would also highlight that that does not reflect, again, the $13 billion of single work that Parsons has already won.

Thanks. I’ll sneak one more if I could. Could you elaborate a little bit on opportunities for revenue synergies with BlackSignal and comment about what the prospective pipeline of M&A looks like if you’re going to be able to get a sort of quota or target for the year?

Yes. I would say first, very excited about BlackSignal. It’s directly aligned with Parsons solution-selling vision. They have 90% intellectual property-enabled offerings and it drives 67% of sole source awards. It strengthens our position in key markets, offensive cyber operations and electronic warfare. And if I just delve a bit deeper into that, I would say in the offensive cyber side, they’ve played a lot more in the research and development. We’re strong in the operations, so it really strengthens our full-spectrum cyber operations capability. In the electronic warfare space, we both play there, but we happen to look at different signals of interest and both of us leverage our advanced digital signal processing capabilities. And then they provide new capabilities for us in the counterspace radio frequency domain, an area, again, that’s expected to see double-digit growth. They also improve our posture in the INDOPACOM region, which I talked about a little bit on the call. And then in the electronic warfare area, also, I would point out that we play mostly with Title 10 tactical military, whereas they bring a lot of Title 50 strategic. So, overall, this is just a terrific acquisition. We have customer alignment. They’re strong with the Air Force, with the Navy, with DARPA and the intel community. We’re strong with the Army and different parts of the intel community. So extremely complementary. And as with all of our acquisitions, we really look for them to drive us up the value chain. On your second question, the pipeline is still very strong. We have a lot of candidates within both Critical Infrastructure and within Federal, and we’re on track to do two to three acquisitions this year.

Thank you very much.

Thanks, Tobey.

And the next question comes from Bert Subin with Stifel. Your line is open.

Hey. Good morning.

Good morning, Bert.

Good morning, Bert.

Maybe just to start with a higher level question. I mean, if we go back to early 2023, when you guys hosted your Investor Day, looking for growth on the Federal side, more on the sort of low-to-mid single digits. Critical Infrastructure mid-single digits. And obviously sort of blown through those expectations and here you are with five straight quarters of 20% plus organic. I guess the question is, as your visibility toward growth improved, do you see Parsons as moving more to the position of being a growth company? And if you think about that trajectory, what do you think drives that more? Is it going to continue to be the Federal side or do you think Infrastructure will be the greater growth or longer term?

Yes. I would say what’s happened since our Investor Day. First, we have a very clear strategic intent. We’re focused on six core end markets that are all enduring, growing and sustainable and profitable. I would say all four business units, both the segments, all major geographies have hit on all cylinders. Everybody’s delivering double digits and that’s expected for the year, and that’s what’s been happening. As far as our visibility increasing, I think, we always have pretty good visibility, both on the Federal and the Critical Infrastructure side. Our trajectory is a growth company. We intend to keep growing.

Yeah. Bert, I just add, if you think back to the Investor Day, some of the things we outlined at the time, obviously, the overall labor market was kind of uncertain. We have this uncertain inflation environment, budgets were pretty challenged, and of course, win rates on a traditional year, we planned 40% to 50% from a win rates perspective through the second quarter. Our win rate is 72% at the company level. So things like that we saw last year, really strong win rates as well. So, all of those things kind of contributed. Each one kind of came in better than we were expecting back in the Investor Day, labor markets are better, budget environment settled down. And so, all in all, I think it’s -- that’s kind of what’s been helping drive the growth. And to your point, we’re definitely, our goal is long-term growth and kind of sustained growth. And I think it’ll be balanced. I think CI and Federal are both well positioned to continue to grow.

Yeah. Just to add to that, we were 72% in Q2, we’re 76% win rates year-to-date, and that’s up from 66% a year ago and 49% the year before that.

Got it. Very helpful. On the Critical Infrastructure side, this is the first quarter we’ve seen North America growth exceed Middle East. Is that a trend you think will persist? It seems like Middle East is still growing nicely. And I know, Carrie, you’ve made some comments about strength in Saudi and seeing improvement in Abu Dhabi. But I’m just curious, is the setup even better for the North American side?

Yeah. I think we’re going to continue to see growth in both of those, Bert. And I think, as I indicated, they’re both expected to grow double digits this year. What we’re starting to see is more of the Infrastructure Bill funds be let out, and also the state and local matching funds that are coming about. So that’s why we’ve seen such large infrastructure projects. Some of the biggest ones in our company’s history be awarded over the last 12 months. They both have very strong pipelines and I think it’ll be interesting to watch the two business units give each other a race because I’m excited about the Saudi and the Middle East market as well. The Middle East business this year grew at 12% this quarter and Saudi grew at 18%. So very strong.

Yeah. Bert, you’ll remember last year Middle East grew about 30% plus. So coming off a little bit tougher comps there where North America was kind of high single digits. So we’re -- I think to Carey’s point, North America will kind of follow suit and start to challenge Middle East, and we like the idea of the competition.

Thanks. Just one clarification question. I don’t know if you might have missed this in your prepared remarks, but is BlackSignal included in guidance or will that be additive?

It’s additive to guidance. It is not included.

Right.

Okay. Thanks.

Just to give some scope, this year we can expect about $30 million worth of revenue, double-digit margins. And then next year, I think, it was in the release, but just under $100 million in double-digit margins.

Thank you.

Thanks, Bert.

And our next question comes from Alex Dwyer with KeyBanc Capital. Your line is open.

Hey. Thanks for taking my question.

Thank you, Alex.

Good morning, Alex.

Hey. Thanks. I wanted to ask about the SG&A leverage and the focus on the indirect cost management we’ve been seeing. Can you talk a little bit about what specifically has been driving that and then what should we expect going forward in terms of SG&A for the business? Should this continue to trend down as a percent of revenue going forward?

Yeah. Alex, I’d say that we’re kind of, Carey and I are pretty comfortable about where we’re at right now, call it, low- to mid-teens. We have seen favorable trends, obviously, as revenue has -- revenue growth has been in kind of the 20% to 30% over the past few quarters. We’ve been kind of controlling costs. We’ve been doing effective things like, obviously, a lot of folks are pulling facility costs out and things. But, obviously, to support the growth, we’ve been spending in important areas like technology, billion, things like that. So I think, from a modeling perspective, that kind of low- to mid-teens is a good number for us. But, overall, again, really strong performance and we’re heading in the right directions. And critical IRAD investments that’ll benefit long-term growth as well. So, but I think low- to mid-teens is a good number from SG&A. I don’t think it’ll go far below that.

Got it. Thank you. That’s very helpful. And then secondly, can you talk about the equity and earnings line during this quarter? I think it included a $22 million write-down from a design-build, JV. Can you just talk about what happened there? Was this the same project from last quarter? And then what’s built into the guidance in terms of that equity and earnings line for the remainder of the year?

Yeah. I’ll take the first part and Matt will take the last part. So, first, we’re very happy with our margin performance. On a year-to-day basis, margins are up 90 basis points and so the business are performing quite well. We’re also still projecting 40 basis points of margin expansion this year at our midpoint of guidance and 20 basis points to 30 basis points after that. And the Critical Infrastructure segment in the quarter was up 150 basis points. We did, to your point, take a $22 million adjustment. It was on a joint venture, specifically a construction joint venture project and that’s reflected within equity and earnings. This is the program we mentioned in the fourth quarter that had some supply chain issues and so we’re still in discussions with the customer on various scope and scheduled challenges. Pro forma, the Critical Infrastructure margin would have been at 10.2% and the Parsons margin would have been at 10.3%. I’d also like to remind you, Alex, this is business that we no longer pursue. Since I became CEO, we’ve stopped bidding construction joint ventures.

And Alex, just from a modeling perspective, you can assume kind of, call it $3 million to $5 million in the second half for equity and earnings, so a couple million a quarter. On a normal run rate where we wouldn’t have any impacts, we think equity and earnings for the company should run, call it between $10 million and $20 million. So if you want to say $15-million-ish, I think that’s probably, $13 million to $15 million is probably a fair number.

Thank you. I’ll turn it over there.

Thanks.

Thanks, Alex.

And the next question comes from Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Your line is open.

Yeah. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Yeah. So that $22 million, I think is important to note. As I read the queue here, it looks like there was also some positive offsets on the equity income line. I mean, that’s a big penalty. Was there notable or material or can you quantify the positive offsets that were against that $22 million? I’m just trying to get a better understanding of the quarter on the CI segment in particular to start out with?

Yeah. Nothing, I would say material, Andy. It’s just our kind of normal run rate. If you think about the numbers I just gave about kind of a normal year $15 million, we should be seeing $4 million or $5 million a quarter worth of equity and earnings normalized. So, it’s your point, $22 million minus the offset by the positives is kind of nuts off of equity and earnings position.

Okay. All right. Great. Can you just, sorry, I missed the start of the call. So did you give your percent complete on that project in particular or can you? And then if you could, could you just, Carey, address a little bit more on the backlog funnel? You talked about the $13 billion of Single award contracts not yet in backlog. Can you talk about the pipeline size or the amount awaiting notice as well?

Sure. So first on the percent complete on that program, it’s around 20% to 25%. The important thing to note though is that the procurement is nearly complete and that’s where the supply chain issues occurred. On the backlog, the $13 billion, I’m sorry, your question was?

Can you talk about the size of the total pipeline today or…

Okay.

… and/or the amount of awards that you submitted and that you’re waiting notice for?

Sure. So the total pipeline is $57 billion. Within the $57 billion, we have 121 programs that are greater than $100 million. And then the value of outstanding proposals awaiting awards at the end of the quarter is $6 billion. Within that, we have 14 programs greater than $100 million. And we don’t have much under protest. It’s about $200 million and the majority of that is multiple award contracts. And I will point out…

Thank you. That’s all my questions. Oh! Yeah.

Yeah. This is one of the strongest pipelines that we’ve had in our company’s history.

Great. Thank you for that context. Have a good day.

Thanks, Andy.

And the next question comes from Mariana Perez Mora with Bank of America. Your line is open.

Thank you, and good morning, everyone.

Good morning, Mariana.

Hi, Mariana.

I’m going to tap again on the margin question. I’m curious if you have any visibility on the backlog and the pipeline of opportunities, where you should be like three years or five years from now, excluding any inorganic upside.

Yeah. Mariana, I think, the short answer on that is, when we bid jobs and we are -- what’s in the backlog is accretive to the overall margin. If you think about the two businesses individually, Carey and I previously have talked about Federal. We’re comfortable with Federal in kind of the mid-9s. I think given a little bit of a mixed shift, I haven’t really talked about this yet, but if you look at kind of fixed price T&M at the company level this year versus last, it’s about a 7% increase in kind of fixed price T&M. So we’re seeing a mixed shift that’s helped us drive the margins up. You’ll see Federal north of 10%. So, Carey and I are excited about that’s a mix of both acquisitions, SG&A, it’s a little bit of everything that we’re doing to try to improve margins. So, overall, Federal we like and kind of I’ll call it the high 9s. The CI margins you’ll see in the 7s, and Carey and I believe long-term that should trend toward 10%, just how quickly we can get there as we get out from underneath these legacy programs. And the back -- your point the backlog and the bid support that.

Yeah. That was my question. like, what are the key milestones that you’re looking at to actually go from 7% to 10% in Critical Infrastructure?

Yes. So several levers. One is continuing to control our cost constant as our revenue increases. Second one is pricing premium. Demand’s so much greater than supply, whether you’re talking about North America or the Middle East. So we are seeing higher margins come in. The other area is, again, derisking the portfolio and not getting into some of these legacy construction joint ventures, which we have not done since I took over three years ago. So those are all levers that we have. And then accretive margins, the companies that we’re buying are all greater than 10% even.

Thank you. And then would you mind typing on the election? What risks do you see going into election and your certainty actually, I don’t know, affecting the way that your customers buy? And how do you think this could affect indirectly, like any spending on like the Infrastructure Bill or even the state and local funding?

Yes. We do not see any impact from the election, whether it’s a Republican or Democrat administration. Starting with Federal, what we do at national security is very well supported. If you look at the national defense strategy, whether it was published by the Republicans or the Democrats, it’s focused on near peer adversaries. So the capabilities that we’ve put into our purpose-built Federal portfolio as far as cyberspace, electronic warfare and the convergence of those areas is really where the country’s focused and needs to be and that has bipartisan support. On the Infrastructure side of the house, the Infrastructure Bill has been passed into law. So it basically would take a lot to overturn it. And a lot of that funding, $454 billion as of May had already been dealt out. State and local also is coming up with their own funding. So I do not see any change in the work that we do as far as infrastructure. President Trump, former President Trump stated in a recent speech how important infrastructure was to the country, and in particular, transportation. That’s the area that we play.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And the next question comes from Cai von Rumohr with TD Cowen. Your line is open.

Yes. Thanks so much. Terrific growth at Federal Solutions. So, were there a couple of contracts that really had a disproportionate impact on that growth, specifically that one contract, I think, you’ve noted with a confidential customer. And were any of the big drivers in terms of contracts, are any of those kind of starting to reach their expected run rate?

Yeah. Cai, so I would say it was in several areas. First, in the critical infrastructure protection area, we saw strong growth and part of it was on the classified contract. Also saw strong growth in cyber at 25% on the quarter. Other areas too, like our Army ammunition plant work that’s ramping up at Bradford and Holston, that’s been important. And I would say the INDOPACOM area still continues to be very strong for us.

Yeah. So can I just add to your question? I think the confidential customer, to your point, I think that one has, we’re about a year into that job and so we’re starting to see kind of a -- we’ve kind of seen what the budgets will support in terms of that contract. So we’re starting to stabilize on that one. But as Carey mentioned earlier, we saw 30% plus growth in cyber in Q1, 25% plus in Q2. So the cyber business on top of the things Carey mentioned is also quite strong.

Terrific. And do you have, I think, Booz mentioned that they were impacted by delay in Ukraine funding, their EUCOM business. Do you have any EUCOM business or any other business where a funding delay could impact your rate of growth?

No. We do not.

Okay. Terrific. Thank you very much. Great quarter.

Thanks, Cai.

Thank you.

The next question comes from Louie DiPalma with William Blair. Your line is open.

Carey, Matt and Dave, good morning, and congrats on the five quarters in a row above 20% organic growth. That is very impressive. I don’t think it’s been done before.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you, Louie.

From a high level and following up on the previous question from Cai, the end to the Ukraine and Gaza military conflicts could be negative for much of the defense industry. However, could the end to the conflicts actually be positive for Parsons, given your role as one of the largest infrastructure providers in the world?

Yeah. Great question, Louie. And the answer is yes. So we have capabilities to provide such as demining capabilities, environmental remediation to be able to get people back in their homes. And most importantly, I would say the rebuild, which is going to be critical for both of those areas. Parsons was heavily involved in the Iraq rebuild years ago. And so, we do intend whenever those conflicts get settled to be able to assist there.

Great. That is very helpful in terms of the perception of Parsons as defense contractor versus infrastructure. And also on the Infrastructure side, is the USIIJA funding peak in your eyes, Carey, still expected in in 2027? Are the dollars flowing? I know that you discussed winning roles on the three largest U.S. projects that were awarded over the past year. But are there other large U.S. projects in the pipeline that can cause the momentum to continue?

Yeah. We do believe the peak is still going to be in the 2027 timeframe and then you’ll see a six-year to eight-year tail after that. So, there’s a lot of longevity and we do have good visibility, a very strong pipeline because a lot of these capital plans get put together years in advance. So, I’m very optimistic about our infrastructure pipeline in North America.

Great. And one more speculative question. It is well known that Parsons is one of the major industry leaders of Critical Infrastructure in the Middle East and you have a six-decade relationship. In the news, there’s been discussions of the U.S. and Saudi Arabia negotiating a defense pact. And I was wondering, is there any long-term, and I emphasize long-term opportunity for Parsons to cross sell some of its defense solutions to that region? I know you’re already involved in CENTCOM, but is there an opportunity for you to become even more involved on the defense side, given your history in the region?

Yeah. We do believe that there is. We’re currently involved in a couple of efforts. We do a little bit of F-16 maintenance activity and then we’re involved in a program with the Army Corps of Engineers supporting missile defense efforts like installation of Patriot and TAB batteries. But we’re currently putting together a more robust pipeline around specifically defense once the defense security pact is concluded. And also around areas we can uniquely play, like should Al-Adeed [ph] become a permanent base, we’re a company that does both infrastructure and protection. And if you look at areas like cybersecurity, physical security, there’s a lot of needs there. And once again, we’re kind of uniquely positioned with our portfolio. So that is definitely an opportunity for the company.

Awesome. Thanks, Carey, and thanks, Matt and Dave.

Thank you, Louie.

Thanks, Louie.

[Operator Instructions] And the next question comes from Noah Poponak with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Hey. Good morning, everyone.

Good morning, Noah.

Good morning, Noah.

If I go to the midpoint of the revenue guide, 3Q and 4Q would be lower than 2Q in absolute dollars. That would be atypical relative to your historical seasonality. Maybe, I’m not sure that’s ever happened. So can you walk me through what would drive that to occur?

Yeah. So, overall, Noah, I’d say, we’re kind of very happy with the year-to-date performance. Updated guidance is obviously 19% growth at the midpoint. Second half still does have some sequential growth it’s pretty nominal to your point, but it is showing some growth. It flattens a bit with the mix of seasonality. I think I talked before when Cai asked the question about kind of the -- we do see some programs potentially dealing with some seasonality through the summer. So that might be new this year. And then, normally, we have completing programs. Carey talked about almost $100 million worth of completing programs, but that’s offset by the growth on the recent awards. So, and the backlog. So tougher comps coming into the second half. But overall, we’re really happy. I think, like I said, second half is trending in the right direction. The award positioning is good. The capture rates are great. So, all in all, we’re comfortable with the second half guide.

Okay. And Matt, I guess, similarly on the cash flow cadence and the guidance that the guidance would imply that the back half as a percentage of the year would be pretty different compared to history. And that’s a pretty big cash flow number you just had in the second quarter compared to how that usually trends through the year. I guess the working, it looks like you had positive change in working capital, but it’s not a massive number. What’s behind that?

Yeah. Overall, we’re just really happy with the collections. We had some major milestones that we’re completing as we’ve talked about completing some of these legacy programs will benefit cash flow. And so I would say, just generally speaking, really strong cash flow from across the Board. Federal business obviously is pretty consistent. Quarter-over-quarter given just underlying cash that bills out every other week or monthly. And so this is really just on the CI side, great performance out of the Middle East. DSO is down pretty significantly in the Middle East, as well as North America. So some upfront payments on some big jobs. So, all in all, just really, really great cash performance across the Board.

Okay. And could you just update us on what EBITDA margin you’re assuming for the year for each segment to roll up into the total?

Yeah. So, if I look at second half specifically, Noah, we have FS caught in the high 9s, 9.8% at the midpoint and CI 7.4%. So a little bit better on CI and a little bit of depression in FS. As you’d suspect, I mentioned earlier, I can’t remember whose question it was, but we saw a little bit of a mixed shift, stronger fixed price as we continue to grow on some of these programs, specifically the GSA FEDSIM when that’s a cost type job. So as we see significant growth on that job, the mix will probably come back a little bit and we expect Federal to kind of balance back out in the high 9s. And then CI, we are expecting slight improvements, but opportunity there if we can get through these last couple of programs.

Okay. Great. Thanks so much.

Thanks, Noah.

And the next question comes from Josh Sullivan with The Benchmark Company. Your line is open.

Hey. Good morning.

Good morning, Josh.

Hi, Josh.

Carey, congratulations on the first year, three years here and the transformation that you’ve ushered in. But maybe…

Thank you.

… if we look at the next three years, what do you think characterizes Parsons in your efforts?

So, I would say, as we look at the next three years, continuing number one to stay laser focused on our customers’ emerging missions. We like to play in the new, new space and figure out, how we’re going to help fix their challenges of tomorrow versus try and run around and take away, for example, other people’s brief piece. So, I would say, if you look at Infrastructure, I’m very excited about the work we’re doing in the Middle East. Those are all greenfield projects. We’re having the opportunity to transform a country, which it’s kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity, build new transportation systems, new residential areas, new marinas, new tourism centers, entertainment centers. As I look at North America, I would say it’s more of brownfield opportunities and those are equally as challenging. How do you, for example, we just forwarded the Inglewood project, which is a rail and transit project out in California to help Los Angeles get ready to host the World Cup and get ready for the Olympics. So how do you position for some of these big events? And that’s going to carry through the end of the decade. As I look forward to, I would say, on the Federal side of the house, we’re going to continue to do what we’ve been doing very successfully, position ourselves as an exquisite Federal company against near peer adversaries and stay laser focused in the areas where we’re very strong. Offensive cyber capabilities, electronic warfare, space, digital signal processing, continue to move up the value chain, bid and win larger jobs. And kind of keep a playbook for us that’s been working and staying on the leading edge of our customers’ challenges.

All right. Thanks. And then just maybe to put a fighter point on, you talked about the Middle East there and your Saudi exposure, I think you mentioned, programs larger than 2%. There has been some conversation around the space of some of those investments in the region. What are you guys seeing currently?

Yes. So Saudi Vision 2030 was launched by the Crown Prince in January 2016 to diversify the economy away from oil and transform it economically, socially and culturally, and they’re going to be on the world stage several times over the decade -- next decade. They’re going to host Asian Games and Asian Winter Games 2029, the World Expo 2030 and the FIFA World Cup in 2034. So, as a result, infrastructure is going to be prioritized. It’s going to receive significant funding in order for Saudi to achieve its vision and be on the world stage over the next five years to 10 years. I would also highlight the Public Investment Funds, the Sovereign Wealth Fund for Saudi Arabia. It’s one of the world’s largest funds controlling an estimated assets of nearly $1 trillion and it’s directly mandated to realize Saudi Vision 2030. They’re going to be increasing their annual deployment of capital from $40 billion to $50 billion a year up to $70 billion a year after 2025. And total construction output in Saudi Arabia is estimated to be $121 billion in 2024. Infrastructure construction is projected to grow at a compound annual growth rate of 6% through 2027. We’ve been there a long time. We have extremely close relationships with customers. I just visited the region last month, had the opportunity to be with the CEOs of some of the major giga projects that are going on. So we well understand the timing of these projects and the imperative to get them accomplished for Saudi Arabia.

Great. Thanks for the time.

Thank you.

Thanks, Josh.

That is all the time that we have for questions. I would now like to hand the call back over to Dave Spille for closing remarks.

Thank you and thank you for joining us this morning. If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to give me a call and we look forward to speaking with you soon. And with that, we’ll end today’s call. Have a great day.

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