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RAVE Restaurant Group, Inc. (RAVE)

Q4 2019 Earnings Call· Mon, Sep 30, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the RAVE Restaurant Group's Incorporated Reports Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2019 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Bob Bafundo, President of RAVE Restaurant Group. Please go ahead.

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Good afternoon and thank you for joining RAVE Restaurant Group’s fourth quarter and fiscal year 2019 earnings conference call. Everyone should have access to our fourth quarter and fiscal 2019 earnings release that was released this morning. The press release can be found at www.raverg.com in the Investor Relations section. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that part of our discussions today will include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance, and therefore, you should not put undue reliance on them. These statements are also subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we expect. We refer all of you to our recent SEC filings for a more detailed discussion of the risks that could impact our future operating results and financial conditions. Please note that during today’s conference call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe can be useful in evaluating our performance. Any discussions of such information should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of comparable GAAP measures is available in our earnings release. Also since fiscal 2019 included 53 weeks and fiscal 2018 included 52 weeks, to improve comparability we have included the first week of fiscal 2019 and both annual periods in the presentation of total retail sales and comparable store retail sales. And with that, I’m very pleased to share our fourth quarter and full year financial operating results. During the past year, we made important major improvements in leadership and overall strategy at both RAVE brands and we continue to remain focused on the two primary levers of our business; growing same-store sales and adding new restaurants. In addition, we are impacting each brand…

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Scott Banks [ph] Investor. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you. Bob, couple of questions for you. The first question is, you talk about Pizza Inn Express and the promising developments in terms of the pipeline, can you provide more color around that? And maybe also talk about where you see this brand going longer term? I mean how big can something like this become? That's question one and I have a followup question.

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Okay. Well, the convenience store businesses is massive and continues to grow domestically. So we feel like we're very well positioned to take advantage of that. We feel like what makes this so intriguing Scott is the fact that you've got a top tier of players in the convenience store industry that are continuously raising the bar with quality of hot food offerings and variety in hot food offerings. So when you look at players like QT, Sheetz, Wawa, or players like that on a national basis, I joke and say that these guys are actually developing restaurants that happen to sell gas. So because of that we see is that the middle tier of C-store operators, folks that own let's say 25 to 50 locations, they are scrambling to keep up with the big guys. And because of that, they continue to look for ways to add hot foods, which typically carry a higher profit margin than the packaged goods that they are typically selling and they are scrambling or look for ways to do that. Because they are not big enough to have their own R&D department, they tend to lean on brands as a way to create brand awareness and create trial with the consumer. So we feel those are the key reasons we're excited about this opportunity. In terms of how big can it be for us, that would be a pure guess on my part Scott. So it would be hard for me to throw out some specific numbers. I will say we're working with many groups that have put their toe in the water if you will with PIE with one or two locations, but own significantly more locations and if the business model proves itself out, then we're pretty confident we're positioned for expansion with those clients.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And then on the Pie Five side, in terms of the Goldilocks model, is the interest coming from existing franchisees, are you seeing interest from new groups? And then just lastly on the balance sheet, obviously as we kind of extrapolate things out you guys are generating cash, if that cash on the balance sheet continues to grow any thoughts on how the company would utilize it from a capital allocation standpoint?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Okay. So let me back up, so we're going to talk first about…

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

About the Goldilocks and the interest there?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Goldilocks, sorry. So I think primarily the interest we're getting on Goldilocks Scott is coming from new franchisees. So those are typically folks that have a strong interest level in the fast casual pizza segment. They are looking to bring that type of concept to their market or their town. And so, I would say that's where our primary interest lies right now with Pie Five and that's a big part of the interest we continue to generate in the brand. In terms of improving operations, efficiency of operations and driving cash, at this point we continue to look for ways to eliminate challenges that we still have. We continue to work through lease termination obligations we have from our move to refranchise and close company restaurants over the last couple of years, so I'd say that's still our primary objective is getting it up behind us.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great, thank you. Best of luck.

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is Mike Disler [ph] with M&X. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good afternoon Mr. Bafundo. How are you?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Good Mike.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

I've been following RAVE for many years and you are fortunate to step into what I think is a company that you've kind of architected the turnaround over the last few years in Pizza Inn certainly, so thank you for that. In general, I'm just an individual, but I stand and speak for a fair number of strong shareholders who want to be better shareholders. So just a couple of quick points, I did go through the 10-K today pretty much all day. I was looking to see if there was an accrual for some sort of severance for the former CAO, Andrea Allen, and the former CEO in terms of the severance accruals and I didn’t notice any. So I assume that that's all taken care of. Is that a fair assumption?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

No there were no accruals for either.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, now that's one down, thank you. Number two, you just addressed Scott prior to my getting on like here. I'm guessing that you've instituted some sort of aggressive incentives for the existing Pizza Inn franchisees who are considering crossing over to Pie Five in addition to keeping your current Pizza Inn as some sort of incentive you can build into a program like that, would that be a fair assumption as well?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Well, good thinking on your part. Actually, we have not instituted an aggressive incentive, but that is happening kind of on its own. So, for example we just reopened a Pie Five location in Lubbock, Texas with one of our best Pizza Inn operators and we've had additional conversations ongoing throughout the system.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, especially in light of your robust, I guess re-energized Take It To Texas program that you've instituted I suspect right in your backyard you could be utilizing some of those aggressive incentives and see if they work to move the needle. And then finally, just as a strong shareholder with a bunch of others who I know are strong holders, not to mention your two largest shareholders, I just have a question about the way the stock price seems to get manipulated and I'll be brief, I think we could actually just involve NASDAQ and/or FINRA and just alert them that some sort of price suppression seems to go on at the close of business every day. And I'm just passing that along. I don’t know, I know many people have brought it to the attention of management as well as the Board in the past and I'm just reiterating that call?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Well, thanks for bringing that up and thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, keep up the good work. Thank you.

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] At this time, we have one financial question from Brent Masters [ph] an Investor. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey there Bob, thanks for the opportunity here, I appreciate your time. Just some quick questions on Pie Five, and you've done a -- as Mike mentioned you've done a great job with Pizza Inn. You've got Scott Black coming on now. We've seen Pie Five over the last three to four years in decline and purging stores and for good reason trying to get to profitability. What do you foresee this year? It looks like according to the website that I looked at today the locations, I know you opened up one, but it looks like you closed one as well. So it came out net even on that number of locations. What do you foresee against stated 10% growth rate in locations, how do you foresee that playing out remainder of 2019?

Bob Bafundo

Analyst

Thanks Brent [ph], good question. Yes, we continue to work very closely with existing franchisees to help improve store level profitability. So besides being focused on same-store sales growth is one of our primary objectives. We're also simultaneously working closely with existing franchisees through a quarterly business review process that we've implemented on the Pie Five side to help them analyze opportunities to improve cash flow. Our hope is that through that program and through more close management that we can slowdown the rate of closures on the Pie Five side. And I think that should help us hopefully maintain net zero this year as we grow stores. I think we have to be realistic that there are going to be more closings and we're going to work through that to the best of our ability.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay thanks, Bob.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] This will conclude the question-and-answer session as well as today's conference. Thank you for attending and you may now disconnect.