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Red Violet, Inc. (RDVT)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Mar 8, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to Red Velvet, sorry, Red Violet’s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s conference, Camilo Ramirez, Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Camilo Ramirez

Analyst

Good afternoon and welcome. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2022 financial results. With me today is Derek Dubner, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Dan MacLachlan, our Chief Financial Officer. Our call today will begin with comments from Derek and Dan, followed by a question-and-answer session. I would like to remind you that this call is being webcast live and recorded. A replay of the event will be available following the call on our website. To access the webcast, please visit our Investors page on our website www.redviolet.com. Before we begin, I would like to advise listeners that certain information discussed by management during this conference call are forward-looking statements covered under the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results could differ materially from those stated or implied by our forward-looking statements due to risks and uncertainties associated with the company’s business. The company undertakes no obligation to update the information provided on this call. For a discussion of risks and uncertainties associated with Red Violet’s business, I encourage you to review the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the most recent annual report on Form 10-K and the subsequent 10-Qs. During the call, we may present certain non-GAAP financial information relating to our adjusted gross profit, adjusted gross margin, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin and free cash flow. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable U.S. GAAP financial measure are provided in the earnings press release issued earlier today. In addition, certain supplemental metrics that are not necessarily derived from any underlying financial statement amount may be discussed as these metrics and their definitions can also be found in the earnings press release issued earlier today. With that, I am pleased to introduce Red Violet’s Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Derek Dubner.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Thanks, Camilo. And good afternoon to those joining us today to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2022 results. We are pleased to announce a strong fourth quarter, which produced another record year for Red Violet. Despite 2022’s uncertain economic environment, Red Violet continued to drive healthy double-digit percentage revenue growth, while experiencing, excuse me, while expanding gross margin and generating solid cash flow. We continue to strategically invest in our robust product roadmap and execution against our growing sales pipeline. Further, even with the investments made in 2022, we generated our first full year of GAAP profitability without a one-time gain. We remain intently focused on the execution of our long-term strategic plan and our industry-leading teams continue to outperform. Now turning to the numbers, for the quarter, total revenue was $13.1 million, a 16% increase over prior year and a record fourth quarter for Red Violet. Platform revenue increased 19% to $12.9 million. Services revenue decreased 54% to $0.2 million. We produced $10 million in adjusted gross profit, resulting in adjusted gross margin of 77% in the fourth quarter, up 3 percentage points. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $1.5 million, up 16% over prior year. Our IDI billable customer base grew by 148 customers sequentially from the third quarter, ending the fourth quarter at 7,021 customers. FOREWARN added over 6,900 users during the fourth quarter, ending the quarter at 116,960 users. Over 235 realtor associations are now contracted to use FOREWARN. For the year, revenue increased 21% to $53.3 million, generating adjusted EBITDA of $12.9 million. We generated $0.6 million in net income in 2022, our first full year of GAAP profitability without a onetime gain. Recall, our 2021 net income of $0.7 million included a onetime gain of $2.2 million from the forgiveness of our…

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Thank you, Derek, and good afternoon. 2022 was a great year for Red Violet. We executed well against our planned initiatives laid out at the beginning of the year. While continuing to strategically invest in the business, we solidly grew revenue, while maintaining healthy margins and cash flow. We added key strategic hires in several verticals and tactically built out our product development and go-to-market resources. As an organization, we added 46 team members in 2022, including 14 in sales and marketing and 27 in technology and product development. These significant additions will enable scalability across the organization. This time last year, we explained that we would leverage our strong balance sheet and healthy cash flow to reinvest in the business in the form of human capital, expanding the capabilities, depth and efficiency of our team. We explained we could make these investments, while maintaining adjusted EBITDA margin in the range of 20% to 25%. We executed well against that expectation. We grew revenue by over 20% to $53.3 million in 2022, maintaining a 24% adjusted EBITDA margin, which produced $12.9 million in adjusted EBITDA. Importantly, 2022 was our first full year of GAAP profitability without a one-time gain, generating $0.6 million in net income, which resulted in earnings of $0.04 per basic and diluted share. The markets for our solutions continue to show strong fundamentals and increasing opportunity. We are releasing new features and enhancements on current solutions and developing new solutions to address additional use cases in identity, commercial property solutions, background screening support and marketing services. With our higher tier opportunity pipeline strong and growing, we continue to make significant progress in moving upmarket in both size and volume potential. We are competing successfully, converting those higher tier private and public sector opportunities to wins. We had…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] One moment for our first question. Our first question will come from the line of Brandon Osten from Venator. Your line is open.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Hey, guys. Happy New Year.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Hey, Brandon. How are you?

Brandon Osten

Analyst

I am good. I am good. Obviously, a really good quarter, I mean, it only compares somewhat poorly to the ridiculous quarter you guys put up in Q3. So second best quarter ever.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Correct.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

A couple of questions here, just can you guys remind -- I know you grew by a good amount this year, can you remind me what the dollar value of that headwind you guys faced this year, because that customer that got acquired, because the growth rate is probably better than maybe what the stated growth rate is. I just can’t remember how much loss, was it like $0.5 million or something, I can’t remember?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Yeah. It was roughly $0.5 million a quarter, right? So annualized about $2 million.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Oh! Okay. So, I mean, we are really looking at, like, does this 12.8 basically, should I be comparing that 12.8 to like 10.2 or something, does that make or I guess 13 with 10.7, does that make more sense than apples-to-apples?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Yeah. Look, I think that’s a good way to look at it, right? It was a larger customer that we discussed, right? And so that was $500,000 a quarter that we needed to go get. So that’s a good way to look at it, for sure.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Okay. Okay. And just a few short ones here, because you guys put out a lot of detail anyways. Can you remind me -- so just the seasonal impact of the EBITDA in Q4, is that just year-end bonuses for management and employees?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

So, yeah, we have a company discretionary bonus plan and because of the discretionary nature, a lot of that falls into the fourth quarter based on performance and such.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Okay.

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

And then from a topline perspective and we have said this before, we always see a little bit of seasonality in the fourth quarter just based on less business days, right, when we are dealing with businesses. As a portion of our revenue still is transactional, right? With less business days and less business happening towards the end of the year, we still -- we do see some seasonality at the topline as well.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Okay. And I guess, I mean, you guys alluded to a strong start to the year. I mean we have only got a couple of weeks left and I know you guys don’t like to guide. But is it fair to expect that Q1 is -- Q1 revenues will be above Q4 revenues, is that a fair expectation without letting too much out of the bag?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Yeah. Brandon, I think, that’s a fair statement. Yes.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Okay. Okay. And two other questions here, can you give me a feel for, I mean, you really have two markets that I would consider somewhat cyclical, I mean, law enforcement isn’t particularly cyclical, but like cyclical material and somewhat impacted by rules and regulations. Can you give me a sense about how you are feeling on the repo market, which should be starting to come up? And on the other hand, the real estate market, which you are adding, you do seem to be adding customers there, but can you give me a sense of what you are seeing on that side as well?

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Sure. Absolutely. Thanks, Brandon. Yes. We have seen an uptick in the repo market, of course. What you are seeing is and rather not surprising is that a lot of the government support from COVID in the way of subsidies and moratorium on collections and standoff on mortgage payments and evictions, you are seeing those wear off and you are seeing the consumer on the low end, if you will, sort of sub-prime, as they call them, having difficulty. Inflation has impacted them significantly, as it does everybody, but more significantly to that type of base and savings are depleted. And they are turning to credit cards, you are seeing credit card delinquencies moving up. And you are also seeing reported repossessions of autos that were bought many times during the COVID period. And so -- and with shortage of supply, probably, paying too much for those autos, so finding themselves in difficult positions. So the repossession market is relatively strong and so we are seeing volumes move up there. As far as real estate, we did talk about it last year, that very swift move in mortgage rates from -- in March of last year I believe for about mid-3% to 6%, did slow down the real estate, I will call it, marketing or identity side of the business. That’s where we power some of the real estate software solutions to identify certain demographics of propensity to sell or -- and/or purchase. So think of identifying a disease in a home, a multi-homeowner, age, et cetera. So we had some real estate customers in that segment that when mortgage rates spiked, when they spend with us, it’s all a matter of ROI. What are they getting? What can they do with the information? And how can they translate that into ROI? And so there was a pause. It did pick back up throughout the year a bit and stabilized. That is different, I want to be very clear, that’s different than FOREWARN. FOREWARN is a risk and identity product. It’s a safety tool used by realtors. FOREWARN is very highly effective, it’s entirely contractual and so different from our FOREWARN product. So, but we have seen relative stability in the real estate market since that impact in Q2 last year.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Yeah. Also, I saw Apple News article out of London Times or one of the European ones that real estate agents and the dangers that they face for showings when they don’t know the counterparty, like physical dangers, maybe worth looking at. And then my last question and I am going to ask a stupid question, I know it’s a stupid question before I ask, but I will ask it anyway…

Derek Dubner

Analyst

No problem.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

…just because everyone wants to hear. Yeah, everyone wants to hear something. So just with regards, I mean, in terms of all the hype recently around, call it, artificial intelligence, machine learning, whatever you want to call it. You have a platform that has a major -- has a significant database. So for you guys, maybe there’s an output component, but there’s also the fact that you have the database. So there’s sort of an input component, right? It’s all about who’s got the data on one side, how they process the data in the middle and who spits out the data. Have you guys given any thought strategically to how you use your database on behalf of your customer or on behalf of your customer base? I mean even FOREWARN is somewhat of a predictive system in terms of what might be looking on the other side of a transaction. So just any -- I don’t need detail, just any thoughts there, what you are telling people when asked?

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Sure. I appreciate the question. It’s Derek. Setting aside all of the AI talk, that’s really the hot buzzword right now. As we have told the street many times, this is the third platform we have built in this space. This platform it was built from the cloud -- in the cloud from the ground up and it is really the only platform that was built that way as far as the competitors we have and we built this platform with machine learning built into it, always with the goal of analyzing data, looking for commonalities, looking for anomalies. As you know, as consumers, we leave our footprint in society every day. The data trail, the data we leave behind grows with our multiyear address history, with events in our lives with bankruptcies, liens, judgments, criminal histories, you name it, with asset transfers, with businesses formed and affiliations within those businesses and those we interact with. So that’s always a big component of our platform, and we believe a significant competitive advantage of what’s out there and really the ability for our end users to use what we believe to be far more intelligent interface than what’s out there as well with the platform underlying and generating a lot of that knowledge, creating -- taking data and making it actually actionable. So that’s how we view our platform. That’s how we have been telling our story for quite a while. We are still small, we only have 7,000 customers and those customers are realizing the advantages of getting our platform and our solutions into their workflow. So we feel we are very competitively differentiated from what’s out there and feel great about our future.

Brandon Osten

Analyst

Great. Thanks, guys. Keep moving forward.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Thanks, Brandon.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from the line of David Polansky from Immersion Investments. Your line is open.

David Polansky

Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. I want to talk about headcount a little bit. I think you are capping off your biggest year ever for hiring, you hired about 46 net new people. Are you ready for this year with the current headcount or should we expect similar hiring patterns in 2023, and then going off of that, can you discuss how that may or may not impact your margin profile on gross margin and adjusted EBITDA?

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Sure. Thanks, David. You are right. We made significant hires last year and we looked around the organization and said, look, we see significant opportunity as we roll out the product roadmap and as we expand in certain verticals and as we enter new markets. So we made hires in various parts of the organization to, for example, bolster our infrastructure. While we add to our data science team, our product development team and build those products to add to sales and marketing, to get out there and to tell our story and to bring these fantastic solutions to market. So I would say there is going to be no repeat to the number of additions that we did. I think we are pretty well-positioned as far as who we have already added. So there’s no intention of significantly or even insignificant -- too insignificantly adding to that position other than where we see we have nice traction. We have always said we will spend into that traction a bit to really get going. Dan, why don’t you talk a little bit about margins and what you can expect?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Yeah. Sure. Thanks, David. Great to hear from you. Look, I think, this kind of sets for us kind of that new level, if you will, that gives us a lot of leverage over the next several years. Strategically, as Derek said, we will look at areas where we start to gain traction, potentially lean in, but the expectation is, we would kind of maintain around this level for most of the year. What that means for margin, the expectation is, for this year, margins would be relatively consistent with what you saw in 2022, and then, ultimately, as we are leaving 2023 and seeing increasing in revenue, we will start to see that nice leverage in that margin profile and really start to see that margin profile extraction if you will going into 2024, starting to hit towards those targets that we have talked about in the past, closer to the 35%. So that’s kind of what the expectation is for 2023 and then leaving 2023 going into 2024.

David Polansky

Analyst

So when you say consistent, do you mean sort of maybe in the mid-20s range, is that right?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Correct.

David Polansky

Analyst

So if you are…

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Correct.

David Polansky

Analyst

I just want to make sure I understand this, but if you are not making significant hires and you are largely a fixed cost business and presumably you would be growing revenue that should flow through at a pretty high incremental margin, where are you spending, if not in head count, where, because my thought is that if you are not spending, we should see some pretty good operating leverage, but it sounds like we will still be sort of in the mid-20s range. So then can you talk about that a little bit?

Dan MacLachlan

Analyst

Yeah. So, look, when we look at it, we look at it from a conservative standpoint. As I said, we are kind of leaving out of 2023 the expectation is you will start to see that nice leverage, right? So when you look at last year 2022 versus this year. Obviously, we added a good portion of the 46 kind of in moving out of second quarter into third quarter and fourth quarter, probably, add half in the beginning of the year, half in the second half of the year, so the run rate based on that is really leaving the year. So, yeah, I think the expectation is, from a conservative standpoint, we will look to be kind of in the mid-20s. But, ultimately, as we grow revenue, I think we have a lot of upside to that. I mean, last year, we guided around 20% to 25%, obviously, we came on the high side of that, closer to 25%. I would have the expectation that we have more upside in that margin than downside based on our revenue growth.

David Polansky

Analyst

Okay. And then on topline, I know we have talked about this a bunch of times, but is your intent to still grow this business organically and are you seeing anything on the M&A front that gets you a little bit excited, because I am just trying to think of your bridge of some of these long-term targets that you laid out and I’d just like to get some commentary around that, that would be great?

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Thanks, David. Yeah. This is Derek. We always come into the office every day with the goal of building this business organically. That said, we do have nice relationships, banking relationships that provide us with opportunities to look at. We have said before that we have interest in a couple of areas that might be where we can acquire some unique data assets, perhaps, some unique technology in a buy or build scenario, thought process, if you will, and/or some front-facing or end user facing solution that may be already well branded in market and would be an interesting acquisition for us. Given that, we are very mindful of dilution, have always been, and the last couple of years have not been interesting in the way of the valuations and the expectations from sellers of some of the assets we have seen. As you know, throughout 2022 and here in 2023, those valuations have come down, public market probably faster than private market, but private market is certainly getting there where they need to access capital. So we keep our eyes open. We do review opportunities from time to time. But again we will look at it. It’s got to be some very key assets and it needs to be at the right price, at the right valuation and absent that we will continue to build this organically. We feel like we have -- as we move from smaller- and medium-sized customers and continue this multiyear move into larger customers, enterprise customers, if you will, in both the private and public sector, we believe just we have got a real strong runway where the latter half of the short-, medium- and long-term present opportunities to expand revenue at an even faster clip, obviously, market and economy cooperating, but we are very excited about the opportunities in front of us and meeting the targets that we have talked about.

David Polansky

Analyst

That’s great. And not to be too cute about it, but maybe you can use some of those good banking relationships to get some analysts on the call and some estimates out there and maybe get the liquidity on the stock up a little bit.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

We hear your comments.

David Polansky

Analyst

All right. Thanks, guys. I will pass.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I am not showing any further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the conference back to Derek for closing remarks.

Derek Dubner

Analyst

Thank you. We are pleased to have reported another strong quarter and a record year for Red Violet. Notwithstanding the climate, we remain steadfast in operating our business with a long-term view. We continue to execute against this multiyear strategic plan that we have been discussing and our business is financially strong. We are very excited about the prospects for 2023 and beyond. Good afternoon.

Operator

Operator

This conference -- this concludes today’s conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.