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The RealReal, Inc. (REAL)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 26, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Lennius, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome you to The RealReal Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Caitlin Howe, Senior Vice President of Finance.

Caitlin Howe

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Joining me today to discuss our results for the period ended December 31, 2025, are Chief Executive Officer and President, Rati Levesque; and Chief Financial Officer, Ajay Gopal. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that during today's call, we will make forward-looking statements, which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties. Our actual results may differ materially from those suggested in such statements. You can find more information about these risks, uncertainties and other factors that could affect our operating results in the company's most recent Form 10-K and subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. Today's presentation will also include certain non-GAAP financial measures, both historical and forward-looking. We have provided reconciliations for historical non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP measures in our earnings press release, which is available on our Investor Relations website. I would now like to turn the call over to Rati Levesque, Chief Executive Officer of The RealReal.

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Thank you, Caitlin, and good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for joining us as we discuss our fourth quarter and full year results. 2025 was a transformative year for The RealReal. We accelerated top line growth throughout the year, culminating in exceptional fourth quarter performance. We delivered $616 million in GMV for the quarter, representing 22% growth while achieving an adjusted EBITDA margin of 11%. During the fourth quarter, we surpassed the $2 billion mark in GMV for the year, a milestone for The RealReal that gives us further confidence in our growth trajectory and our market leadership position. For the full year, we delivered $2.1 billion in GMV and our first year of positive adjusted EBITDA in every quarter, demonstrating our ability to scale profitably while maintaining strong momentum. Before Ajay walks you through our detailed results in a moment, let me provide some context. Our performance in 2025 is the result of years of laying the groundwork for the luxury resale market and refining our business model. We've built a durable and hard-to-replicate foundation that uniquely positions us to lead and create long-term value. We are leading a fundamental shift in the luxury consumers' mindset. Our customers have begun to view their closets as a portfolio of assets to be tracked, actively managed and eventually monetized. With 47% of all consumers considering resale value when making a purchase in the primary market, we are influencing the luxury consumers' behavior in a meaningful way. I see us becoming the personal adviser of the closet, providing tools, access to information and curated insights. Today, we are blending uniqueness, quality and depth with the commercial scale and accessibility that only The RealReal can offer. We are leaning into this vision through disciplined execution of our 3 strategic pillars. First, our growth playbook, which…

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Thank you, Rati, and good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to review our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2025, a year of transformation and accelerating momentum. In Q4, we delivered double-digit top line growth in both GMV and total revenue, driven by healthy supply and strong buyer engagement. Our disciplined execution against our 3 strategic pillars, the growth playbook, operational excellence and obsessing over service continued to pay off. We delivered 450 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, demonstrating the operating leverage in our business model. We also generated free cash flow of $43 million in Q4, up $23 million year-over-year. Turning to our detailed fourth quarter results, beginning with the top line. Q4 GMV of $616 million increased 22% compared to last year. Growth was driven roughly evenly by unit volume and higher average selling prices. Q4 total revenue of $194 million increased 18% with consignment revenue up 16% year-over-year. Direct revenue increased 39% compared to Q4 of 2024. In Q4, active buyers, orders and average order value all increased year-over-year. On a trailing 12-month basis, active buyer growth accelerated to 9% year-over-year. Orders were up 10% and average order value increased 11% versus last year. This growth reflects our success in unlocking supply, particularly in high-value categories like fine jewelry and watches. Q4 take rate of 36.5% declined 120 basis points year-over-year. This was driven by a favorable mix shift into higher-value items and categories. These items carry a lower percentage take rate while generating more profit dollars and improved unit economics. On margins and profitability, fourth quarter gross profit of $145 million increased 19% year-over-year. Gross margin of 74.8% in Q4 increased 40 basis points compared to the prior year period. Breaking this down by channel, consignment gross margin was 89.6% in…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Ashley Owens.

Ashley Owens

Analyst

Well, first and foremost, congrats on the quarter. I did want to start out. I just noticed that AustinTech accelerated its deleverage. So I did want to touch on Athena. You've talked through the year about how central Athena is to that operational model and you hit the target you gave in November in 4Q. So first and foremost, with the 35 [indiscernible] update here, is that a count of units that are seeing intake fully completed by Athena? And just as importantly, how are you thinking about expanding that penetration across low, mid- and high-value items in 2026?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Thanks for the question, Ashley. Yes, we're pleased with the progress that we've been able to make with Athena. We ended the year with 35% of the units in our fulfillment center being processed through Athena. And that was the primary driver for the operating leverage that you commented on in our ops and tech line. All in ops and tech leveraged 330 basis points for the year. And it was a combination of Athena with other automation efficiencies that we've been able to unlock in that part of the P&L. We're -- 35% was our target for the end of the year, where we will continue to build on that. Going forward, we're excited to extend Athena into the mid-value items, and then we will continue to build on that, taking it into higher-value items. We expect this to take place over multiple quarters, and it will continue to be a source of leverage for us going forward.

Ashley Owens

Analyst

And maybe just to follow up quickly on Athena as well. I know it affected the intake to listings spurt. Could you expand on how it affected the intake to listing cycle times in 4Q? You previously stated a long-term goal to cut that timeline meaningfully. How much progress did you see in this quarter? What's the current [ data for base ] count? And what would you consider a reasonable target for 2026 as some of these automation and workflow optimization start to mature?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the follow-up. We are excited about Athena, not just in terms of how it delivers efficiency improvements, but also on how it reduces the cycle time, which leads to a higher consumer satisfaction because we're able to get their items up on the website sooner. When you think about the 35% of items that went through Athena, what essentially happens is the item first goes to photography. And once we've completed taking those images, we're able to pretty much launch the item on the website. So those items are going very quickly through our fulfillment center and not having to go through multiple handoffs as compared to the other items. We'll -- as we build the coverage from Athena, we'll extend that benefit to more and more items in our portfolio.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ike Boruchow at Wells Fargo Securities.

Irwin Boruchow

Analyst

Congrats. I guess I was wondering maybe, Ajay, Rati, the guide for Q1 will obviously 4Q much better. But I think 3 months ago, you told us you only expected slightly above [ algo ] growth in the first half, so above low double digits, and you're guiding 22% GMV. So just what are you seeing quarter-to-date? What gives you that confidence to guide those numbers?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes, Ike, thanks for the question. A couple of things that we're seeing in the business, right? We're seeing our buyer and seller be quite resilient. We all know it's driven by supply. Our growth playbook is working. So it's important to understand that trifecta of our sales strategy, our marketing strategy and retail strategy kind of coming together there. So we have seen, for example, the sales team and the Smart Engine or Smart Sales that we've called in the past, the conversion is getting better on the sales side. We're able to get more appointments per day, more volume per sales rep. On the marketing side, the flywheel strategy is working. We're turning buyers into consignors in a more impactful way. And then on the demand side, still early, but our AI or agentic testing there on discovery and search is really impacting conversion, especially on the new buyer side. So all of these things, some of these are -- we're testing our way into and they need to scale up throughout the year, but definitely seeing the supply really coming through.

Irwin Boruchow

Analyst

Have you seen a slowdown since the fourth quarter, I guess, is something I'm curious about.

Rati Levesque

Analyst

We showed you or we give you your guide for Q1, I would say, as far as macro goes, same trends on buyers and sellers, double-digit growth on both buyers and sellers as well.

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes. No slowdown, Ike. I would add that when you think about Q4, you've heard us talk about how it's become increasingly more relevant as more and more people turn to resale for gifting. And we saw that play out in Q4, which we believe is one of the drivers for the acceleration from Q3.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Bobby Brooks at Northland Securities.

Robert Brooks

Analyst

I would just be interested to hear first on an update of how testing with drop shipping has gone and maybe what are the plans for it as we go into 2026? And maybe it would be helpful to just take a step back and remind folks what categories you kind of started in and how you've selected those certain vendors who can access the drop shipping beta testing, I guess, I'll call it. And how you expect that to evolve moving forward?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes. Bobby, thanks for the question. I'll start; Ajay, if I miss anything, feel free to jump in. Drop ship, we're seeing this year was all about testing and expanding categories. We started in watches. We also launched handbags and fine jewelry. They were very much to specific or targeted partners. So we're continue to expand that to international markets, for example. I'd say the growth rate is healthy, but not the main driver of our growth. So we'll continue to expand to other categories, continue to test and learn in the next couple of quarters.

Robert Brooks

Analyst

And then setting aside Smart Sales tool and the rollout -- broader rollout of drop shipping, are there any other exciting initiatives aimed at driving more incremental supply? Obviously, that's like the key part of the growth engine here is unlocking more supply. So I just wanted to hear if there's any other initiatives that folks should be kind of looking forward to. And maybe it's even partnering with direct brands directly.

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes. I think that's what gives us confidence in the full year guide as well and what we're seeing into Q1. We have many new initiatives that some of them are earlier in days and some of them a little bit later in days, but Smart Sales is one of them for sure. Referrals and affiliate programs, that's another one. I'm really excited about seeing one of the higher growth channels when I look at where supply is coming from. Again, early days, but you can see how this could really scale up. Our retail strategy, again, 1/4 of our new sellers are coming from retail. We're also looking at our marketing ROI, higher LTV is what we're seeing. So as we're reinvesting in marketing, we're seeing -- really seeing that pay off. I would say another is flywheel. We talked a little bit about that in the last quarter's call, our strategy around buyers becoming consignors, and we're seeing that accelerate. Early days on that, but that also gives us confidence headed into full year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Anna Glaessgen at B. Riley Securities.

Anna Glaessgen

Analyst

I'd like to turn back to Athena. Nice to see that it met the target of between 30% to 40% of units by year-end. Wondering if you'd be willing to share your outlook for its contribution to unit processing in 2026.

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Thanks, Anna. Yes, we're pleased with Athena exiting the year at 35%. It's one of our key use cases of how we are able to leverage our unique data set of 50 million items to combine it with recent developments in the world of AI and unlock real efficiencies in our platform. We'll continue to build on it. As I mentioned earlier, right, 35% is nowhere close to where we could be. In theory, we see that expanding to all the items in our fulfillment center, and we will pace that over the next few quarters.

Anna Glaessgen

Analyst

So safe to say it should continue to increase?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes, it will continue to go up.

Anna Glaessgen

Analyst

And then secondly, exciting to hear about the initiatives within agentic search. I guess, when should we expect that to be formally launched on the website?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes. Hi, Anna, so we are also very excited about it, just really focused on discovery, matching, getting the right product to the right person. We're seeing it deliver incremental revenue. So we will start to scale that up. But what we are seeing right now, like I mentioned, was new buyer conversion and the testing looks very good. And then we see us kind of moving on to conversational and visual search as well, just to kind of, again, get that flywheel going and continuing that buyer growth at double-digit numbers.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Marvin Fong at BTIG.

Marvin Fong

Analyst

Congratulations on the quarter. A question on just sort of like ASP and product mix. So I believe higher-value items has been really strong for a while now, fine jewelry, handbags, watches. How -- could you address specifically like your supply pipeline visibility? How is that going there? Are you at all sort of reaching a point, where it's getting a little harder to obtain those types of items? And -- or is that pipeline very strong? And just as it's a driver of AOV, I'd love to just get a better understanding. If we break it down kind of like like-for-like, are you seeing ASPs climb? So for instance, even within apparel and other goods, are prices rising? Or what's sort of going on there?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Marvin, and thank you for the question. A few things to unpack there. I think at the start, I would say, when you look at our 22% growth in Q4, it's a healthy balance between volume and price, almost an even 50-50 split between the 2 elements. You had a question about how it shows up in ASPs like-for-like. A large part of what we are seeing has been driven by the shift into higher value items and categories. You heard us highlight fine jewelry as a category that has been experiencing strong growth. In fact, it was one of our strong -- fastest-growing categories in 2025. We have a lot of sophistication built into how we -- how our pricing algorithm manages ASPs, right? So we are always trying to find the highest price on behalf of our consignors. And that pricing algorithm is looking at over 100 data points and trying to figure out exactly what we think a customer would be willing to pay for any given item. The last point I would make is to your question on how does it influence supply. One of the key strengths about The RealReal as a platform is as trends come and go, we are able to quickly respond to them and really capitalize on like consumer preferences shifting. So fine jewelry is a great example of that. We saw that trend start to pick up in late Q4 of 2024, and we've been able to capitalize on that very effectively. And we will continue to do that as a marketplace.

Marvin Fong

Analyst

And a follow-up question just on direct. You mentioned margins there are very strong. You mentioned favorable mix. So just to drill down on that, was it a matter of the product mix, again, higher ASP items? Or is it also that, Get Paid Now contributed a bit more? Could you kind of decompose what kind of drove that and how sustainable that is in the first quarter and maybe beyond?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the questions. We are pleased with the margin expansion we've seen in our direct channel. It was 26% gross margin in Q4 and 22% for the full year. Both of those numbers are quite substantial improvements, 880 basis point improvement on a full year basis versus what direct used to look like if you go back a year. We've made a conscious effort to change the mix of what goes through that items. And right now, it's a mix of Get Paid Now and other select supply that we know is incremental to our platform and runs through that channel. Those margins will stay within that fairly wide range of 15% to 25% going forward, and it will vary based on the mix of what we sell.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Mark Altschwager at Baird.

Mark Altschwager

Analyst

I guess a couple on the model here. First, you're guiding to revenue growth a couple of 100 basis points below the GMV growth. Obviously, a lot of moving pieces as we go from A to B there. Maybe just what are the key factors we should be thinking about take rate, revenue mix or otherwise that are influencing that this year?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes. Thank you for the question. Yes, we are guiding to a revenue growth that is a couple of percentage points lower than GMV. The key driver there really is our take rate. If you look at the second half of 2025, we've seen a favorable shift in our product mix towards higher-value items and categories. Our take rate structure is designed in such a way that when we sell those items, they attract a lower percentage take rate, but they bring in higher absolute dollars and strong unit economics against those items. We do expect that phenomenon to play out in the first half of '26 when we will be lapping sort of the change that occurred late in '25, and it should normalize going forward, particularly in the second half of the year.

Mark Altschwager

Analyst

That's very helpful. Also wanted to ask about the sales team and just any hiring goals you have for 2026. You spoke earlier about the efficiency you're seeing with that team as they build tenure. So trying to just better understand the strategy behind further efficiencies relative to expanding the team as you look to fuel supply growth.

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Mark. So on the sales side, the relationship that we built there is really important with the consignors. It's definitely a combination of art and science there. And when we think about the growth rate there, we think about hiring healthy in that area as we're growing our business, but it's also finding more efficiencies there, too. So we measure things like how much value are they bringing in per sales rep, how many appointments per day are we taking? Things like Smart Sales or Smart Engine definitely help that experience. So it's definitely a two-pronged approach.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Dylan Carden at William Blair.

Dylan Carden

Analyst

I think I did that right. I guess I'll know. Curious on the -- MyCloset, this next phase where you kind of dig deeper into the consumers, the customers' closet. Is that something happening in '26? And I guess, is there a line of sight into how you might be able to sort of target or get after the balance of what's in the closet beyond what's just purchased on RealReal at this point?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes, Dylan, thanks for the question. For those that don't know what MyCloset is, I want to say, first of all, we see ourselves as that personal adviser to the seller already. We're seeing that behavior shift in the seller, where they call us to now get better insights into the primary market, what should they buy, what should they sell, what holds its resale value and what doesn't. So how do we leverage that? We're looking into MyCloset and testing our way into that. You saw us launch something called Reconsign that was focused on our flywheelers as well. So when people are buying things on our site, how do we target them and get them to consign. That's been working quite nicely. The next phase of that goes into pricing transparency. So again, empowering them with the insights on brands, pricing, what to hold on to, what to trade up and so forth. So by the end of this year, we'll have kind of the full build of something like this early -- not going into even early next year, but we're testing our way into that. You're going to see improvements into that relationship. And the real vision there, like I said, is being that personal adviser to our seller, but we're really getting them to think about The RealReal when they're in the primary market, right? How do we gain mind share in that first phase.

Dylan Carden

Analyst

I guess that brings up another question about how tied in you are -- your business is to the broader health of the luxury market. And I know there's been some sort of mixed signals for the primary market. But how does that sort of flow through your business, if you had a sense?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes. Definitely some mixed signals, but how I see it is the primary market and resale can coexist. We are seeing the shift into resale happening as resale is becoming more mainstream, driven by the Gen Z and Millennial cohorts. We mentioned this last time, almost 50% now prefer resale and that TAM continues to grow, right, $200 billion in people's closets and $80 billion gets added. So we have the access to all that inventory. The magical thing about our business at the end of the day is that we're brand agnostic or channel agnostic. So we can react to the trends pretty quickly, bring in the right product at the right time for the consumer and definitely opportunistic about even partnerships that we have seen that you've seen us done in the past as well with the primary markets.

Dylan Carden

Analyst

Well, then to that end, you keep teeing up here. The new tools from a search functionality, natural language search and I'd just be curious if you're using other things to make the overall curation and discovery process easier. And I know -- I think at least it's early days for that. If you're seeing meaningful improvement in conversion, time on site, return to site, those types of metrics?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes, for sure. So definitely early days, like you mentioned, but we are testing agentic commerce and testing our way into it. And I think I mentioned earlier, especially around search and discoverability matching, like I mentioned before, matching the right product to the right person much faster. We did see conversion go up for new buyers, especially as we're testing our way into that. So we'll continue to kind of double down there as we see fit and be thoughtful about our approach, but as we scale up.

Operator

Operator

Our next question will come from Jay Sole at UBS.

Jay Sole

Analyst

Ajay, my question is for you. You're talking about a lot of leverage on OpEx to get the nice EBITDA margin expansion for the year. Can you just talk about some of the ways you're going to be able to control expenses as you grow revenue to get that leverage?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for the question, Jay. We're making good progress towards our medium-term goal of expanding margins to the range of 15% to 20%. In 2025, we delivered 6% adjusted EBITDA margin, and our guidance for 2026 has a midpoint of 8%. We see that as being well on track to that range of 200 to 300 basis points of margin expansion every year to get to that goal. That is being driven by -- I would say that at the forefront, it's really about getting efficiencies in the operations and tech line of our P&L. That's where we see the effect of initiatives like Athena, where we are able to leverage AI and automation to drive efficiency gains. Outside in other lines, sales, SG&A, you've heard us talk about how we are bringing other tools to help our sales team be more effective. Things like Smart Engine and Smart Sales really help optimize the time that our reps spend dealing with consignors and help them be that much more efficient at unlocking supply. And then finally, a key element of our story on operating expense leverage is our fixed cost base as well. We are in a good place, and that continues to be a source of leverage for us as we grow as a business.

Operator

Operator

Our final question for today comes from Matt Koranda at ROTH Capital Partners.

Matt Koranda

Analyst

Nice work in the quarter. A lot have been asked and answered. I guess one of the things I wanted to hear a little bit more about was how AI can help you on the supply side. I know AI has been discussed a lot in terms of Athena, in terms of processing inbound items, in terms of merchandising and sort of adding assortment customization to your buyers. But what can AI do for you, I guess, in the supply procurement side of the house? And do you have anything that moves the needle in '26 on that front?

Rati Levesque

Analyst

Yes. Great question. Thanks, Matt. So we definitely are an AI beneficiary and not new to AI and definitely been early adopters there. We've always focused on our differentiators, whether that's authentication; supply, like you said; and pricing and data, just to zoom out for a second. So really excited not only about the efficiencies that we believe that we'll see there and are seeing there, but also around transforming the seller experience as you dig in. So Smart Engine is a piece of that, right? And we've talked a lot about that really gaining traction, converting more of those sellers and then converting buyers into sellers with a more targeted approach. So getting smarter about targeting those areas and getting them in. Everything we do on the buyer side does feed into the seller side as well. And I think that's really important to remember because as they earn more pricing for their items, they're happier with the service, and then they come back and consign with us very quickly. So that marketplace approach is really important as well. And we talked about a little bit about MyCloset. That is another place where we really become that trusted adviser, making sure people understand what to consign and when to get consigned and using that data over now more than 50 million items that we've consigned and over 40 million members to kind of create that deep human connections with the seller specifically on the Agentic AI side. So think about that human and kind of technology coming together to create that experience. And so we're pretty excited about that.

Matt Koranda

Analyst

And then maybe just one other one on the margin expansion that's planned for the EBITDA guide for '26. Just wanted to maybe hear you put a finer point on the sources of margin expansion within OpEx. It sounds like that's going to be the biggest driver in terms of margin expansion for '26. Is it evenly split between O&T and SG&A? Or is it more heavily on the O&T side of things, just given Athena implementation and what that -- how that benefits you on O&T?

Ajay Gopal

Analyst

Yes, Matt, thanks for the question. Between those 2 categories, we do expect operations in tech to be the leader in terms of generating operating leverage. That is what we've experienced. That's what you see in our results in 2025, and that sort of directional mix is going to continue going forward as well.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. That concludes the Q&A session and today's call. You may now disconnect.