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RF Industries, Ltd. (RFIL)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Mon, Mar 18, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Greeting, and welcome to the RF Industries First Quarter Fiscal 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Margaret Boyce, Investor Relations for RF Industries. Margaret, you may begin.

Margaret Boyce

Analyst

Thank you, Paul and welcome everyone to RF Industries first quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. With me on today's call are RF Industries CEO, Rob Dawson; and President and Chief Operating Officer, Ray Bibisi, and CFO Peter Yin. Before I turn the call over to Rob and Peter, I'd like to cover a few quick items. We issued our Q1 earnings release after market today. That release is available on our website at rfindustries.com. I'd like to remind everyone that during today's call, management will make forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. Please note that statements on this call today may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. When used, the words anticipate, believe, expect, intend, future, and other similar expressions identify forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements reflect management's current views with respect to future events and financial performance and are subject to risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from the outcomes contained in any forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these forward-looking statements to differ from actual results include delays in development, marketing or sales of products and other risks and uncertainties discussed in the company's periodic reports on Form 10-K and 10-Q and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. RF Industries undertakes no obligation to update or revise any forward looking statements. Additionally, throughout this call, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. Today's earnings release and the related current report on Form 8-K describe the differences between our GAAP and non-GAAP reporting. With that said, I'll now turn the conference over to CEO, Rob Dawson. Rob, please go ahead.

Rob Dawson

Analyst

Thank you, Margaret. Welcome to our first quarter fiscal 2024 conference call. I also want to welcome Ray Bibisi’s participation in our call. Recently promoted to President, Ray will play a key role in shaping the next generation of our business strategy and operations, and as such will be a valuable addition to our quarterly calls. For the first quarter, we reported net sales of $13.5 million down 27% year-over-year. While the first quarter has always been our seasonally slowest period, sales were lower than anticipated largely due to more than $2 million of customer shipments and orders that were delayed in the quarter. Importantly, these orders were not canceled and we expect they will be shipped over the next few quarters. Fortunately, our lower cost structure helped us weather this rough period. When the market recovers, our cost reduction initiatives will yield even greater benefit and help us return to profitable growth. Turning to the overall market. It feels like the ice might be thawing on the low CapEx spend and sluggish activity we experienced for over a year. We're finally starting to see some early signs of reversal from the CapEx downturn that made fiscal 2023 so challenging. As a welcome relief from the dramatic 17% decline in CapEx spending last year, telecom companies guidance for 2024 indicated a CapEx spend increase of up to 5%, and we're seeing this reflected in our business. Important to RFI, more of the 2024 CapEx is related to densification of wireless networks, which aligns nicely with our expanded product offering. We're encouraged that many projects, which have been in the sales pipeline for several quarters, begin to convert began to convert into purchase orders in February. Even better, this increase in new orders is primarily high value products like our DAC…

Ray Bibisi

Analyst

Thank you, Rob. I'm truly honored to assume the role of President of RF Industries and excited to speak with you today about the opportunities that lie ahead. In my capacity, I will be leading RFI's sales, product management, engineering and operations teams across all business units and product areas. Our goal is to closely align these teams with our go-to-market strategy that will facilitate enhanced cross-selling of our diverse portfolio and solutions. This strategic alignment is designed to establish a more cohesive and efficient organizational structure that will help us capitalize on significant market opportunities. I am confident that fostering greater integration within our market-facing team will give us a competitive edge as we pursue these opportunities. As mentioned by Rob earlier, our initiative to drive further cost reductions will continue through 2024. We see opportunities for improvement in several areas such as direct material, facilities and equipment, product design and development, along with the benefits of applying lean principles company-wide to improve operational efficiencies. In addition to our ongoing cost reduction initiative, we have organized the Tiger Team focused on cash generation. While this initiative will examine several best practices to strengthen our business, its immediate priority will focus on minimizing excess and obsolete inventory. The potential benefits from both cost reduction and cash generation programs will enhance our financial strength of our organization. Furthermore, I am very excited about the collaborative spirit and enthusiasm of my new team. Together, we've engaged in discussions around sales strategy, market diversification, market share as well as product road map and rationalization. We are totally aligned in maximizing the opportunities ahead that will contribute to a bright future for RFI. It's an exciting time for our company. And with that, I will now turn it over to Peter to discuss our financial results. Peter?

Peter Yin

Analyst

Thank you, Ray, and good afternoon, everyone. As Rob mentioned, our first quarter results were lower than we expected. However, we are excited to see spending improving and having a positive impact on our backlog. First quarter sales were $13.5 million a decrease of $4.9 million or 27% decrease year-over-year and down 15% on a sequential basis. First quarter gross profit margin decreased to 24.5% from 27.7% year-over-year. The 320 basis point decrease reflected the impact of lower sales and less leverage to cover certain fixed costs. First quarter operating loss was $2.1 million compared to an operating loss of $1.2 million in the prior year period. The operating loss was primarily due to lower sales volume and lower contribution from higher-margin products, offset by lower operating expenses in the first quarter of 2024. Our net loss was $1.4 million or $0.13 per diluted share and our non-GAAP net loss was $590,000 or $0.06 per diluted share compared to a net loss of $1.2 million or $0.11 per diluted share and a non-GAAP net loss of $25,000 or $0.00 per diluted share for Q1 2023. First quarter adjusted EBITDA was negative $1.1 million compared to positive adjusted EBITDA of $78,000 in Q1 2023. Moving to the balance sheet. As of January 31, we had a total of $4.5 million of cash and cash equivalents and have working capital of $21.6 million and a current ratio of approximately 2.9:1, with current assets of $32.9 million and current liabilities of $11.3 million. As of July 31, we borrowed $12.5 million under our term loan and $500,000 from the revolving credit facility. Related to the credit facility, as you saw in the third amendment filed at the end of February, we have been working over the last several months to ensure we have…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question today is coming from Josh Nichols from B. Riley.

Josh Nichols

Analyst

I know the carrier CapEx market has obviously been tough specifically for last year and the first quarter is a little bit of a seasonally low for you guys. But good to hear that the revenue is expected to pick up in 2Q. Just given what we're seeing for the decent backlog jump, I'm just kind of curious, do you think that there's going to be more of an incremental or a material sequential pickup in 2Q? Or do you think a lot of that backlog is going to be coming in like the fiscal second half of this year when we just think of the cadence of the acceleration over the next few quarters?

Rob Dawson

Analyst

I think I'll give kind of two reactions to the question or two answers to the question. So one is with what we've been through in the last four quarters, I have a hard time predicting exact timing on when these orders are going to flow. So I'll just, I'll give that caveat kind of to begin. But I think the broader piece is we expect some of the orders we've been seeing to help us in Q2, not going to give specific guidance on a Q2 revenue number, but we certainly expect nice recovery starting to show in the second quarter. And then through the rest of the year, I mean these orders that we've seen to take the backlog up, as I said in some of my prepared remarks, it's not a onetime thing. We have scenarios occasionally where we get a large order and we draw against it for some period of time. This is several recurring orders around several different projects with multiple customers that are not just the month of February was great from a bookings perspective, but it's not just that. I think we continue to see those into March, helping that backlog and we expect there to be more sort of continuing as the year goes on. So hard to give exact timing, but we certainly expect to sort of accelerate from here.

Operator

Operator

And Josh, any more questions?

Josh Nichols

Analyst

Yes. One more question, sorry. Just looking at the OpEx structure, you guys have gotten pretty lean and mean over the last 12 months, I would say, and had $2.5 million of annualized operating savings. And you mentioned on the call that you could be potentially another $3 million of additional savings. Could you just maybe elaborate on where those are potentially coming from specifically? What the company plans to do or any expenses associated with achieving those?

Rob Dawson

Analyst

Sure. Yes. Maybe I'll give kind of a first path on and then I'll let Ray add some of the specific initiatives at a high level that the team is driving. So generally, it's sort of a continuation of the things that we can and had planned going into fiscal '23 with the combining of locations to allow us to get started on some of these streamlining opportunities. So it's sort of the next phase of that and continuing down the path of the good diligent various work streams that the team has been driving. So Ray, maybe you want to mention some of the specific items, I know you had a few in your prepared remarks, but maybe just recap those at a high level what the items are that some of the initiatives the team is driving.

Ray Bibisi

Analyst

Sure. And Josh, like I kind of mentioned in my dialogue, we're looking at multiple facets of the business. Direct material is one element. As Rob mentioned, facilities, the consolidation of facilities and the synergy that we can benefit from those consolidations, we're also looking very heavily into product design, manufacturability of new product design. And then the other big element is the lean principles, eliminating waste in our operations, our manufacturing processes and our processes across the board. So we kicked this off in 2023. We see other opportunities moving into 2024, and we think that there's more that can be accomplished as we move into this year.

Josh Nichols

Analyst

And then last question for me, I guess, like given the anticipated upswing in revenue throughout the rest of the year and the fact that you've talked about you're probably going to be gaining some higher margin revenues from small cell and DAC, things like that. How should investors be thinking about the potential margin expansion over the coming quarters for the company?

Rob Dawson

Analyst

Yes. Maybe I'll give a first path and let Peter add some specifics there. So I think the general summary is we needed there to be a specific sales number to allow us to cover fixed charge, right? That was one of the things that Peter mentioned in his comments, and I think that just at a high level, as we see product mix get better, we brought our breakeven way down. But as we see the product mix get better around these higher-margin items, I think that is one key area where we should see the margin expansion start to happen. Peter, do you want to add some specifics there?

Peter Yin

Analyst

Sure. So as past the year continues and we see the improvement in the top line and the product mix getting better. I think we can expect us to get closer to 30% range where we've been, Josh, coming off of a $13.5 million at 24.5% that not a great number for us. But I think with the sales improving and kind of the synergies we've last year and continuing into this year as we see the sales from the higher kind of margin stuff start to ship out, I think you'll see a quicker improvement to our gross margins with some sales increase here.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is coming from Greg Graves. Greg is a private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

I just had one simple question related to the activities in -- with the U.S. and China. Could you give us a rough idea of how much you are relying on China for some of the components that go into our parts?

Rob Dawson

Analyst

So, small as in less than 10% of our inventory has a direct connection there. Now that's direct. It doesn't mean that U.S. based suppliers that we're purchasing from are also sourcing something, but our exposure that we're aware of is, I would say, less than 10% of our inventory.

Operator

Operator

And the next question is coming from Ethan Star. Ethan is also a private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

There was some mention of some obsolete out-of-date inventory in your inventory figure. I'm wondering, roughly, can you give some guidance as to the percentage or dollar figure roughly about the inventory and what your hopes are for moving it out of the door?

Rob Dawson

Analyst

So giving a specific number, we're not going to give a specific number on it. I can tell you, it's a small percentage of our total. And in some cases, it's not actually obsolete. It's just in slow moving, and we've made the decision to turn that into cash to move some stuff out of there. So it's not going to have a massive material change to our inventory level, but some of the decline that you saw in our current inventory, I think it's $18 million as we reported and it was $18.9 million prior quarter. So that part of that is selling through some inventory, but part of that is also reducing those numbers. So it's not, I don't want to overstate the obsolete word. We certainly want to say, yes, there is some in there that we needed to move out. But it's more about, I think, just rationalizing and turning it to cash if it hasn't been moving.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Well, thanks for correcting me on the improper use of obsolete and look forward to next quarter's results.

Rob Dawson

Analyst

Thanks, Ethan. I think we said the word obsolete. So that's on us, not you.

Operator

Operator

There were no other questions at this time. And I would now like to hand the call back to Rob Dawson, CEO of RF Industries for closing remarks.

Rob Dawson

Analyst

Thanks, Paul, and thanks, everyone, for joining our call today. We look forward to reporting our second quarter results in June. Have a good day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day. Thank you for your participation.