Jonathan Porter
Analyst · Wes Carmichael from Autonomous Research. Please go ahead
Wes, let me take that. Look, our attitude to long-term care [indiscernible] is very clear. Number one, obviously, given our market position, we do see, I would believe, every opportunity that arises in the market. So that's point number one. But point number two, as I emphasized, real critical, one of the, if not the most important reasons for our success is our discipline. So, I think I've shared sort of by criteria, at least that we look at with regards to long-term care blocks. The first one would be, is it a strategically important or value or long-term partner? So that's point number one. Point number 2 would be the risk-return trade-off within the block, but also being paid appropriately for any risk that we take, obviously. Point number three, does any other blocks of business, non-long-term care, come along with the transaction. Point number four is really critical is, look, we have done long-term capital for a number of years. We've got a very modest-sized block. But it's within it's the newer type of business because that's the business that we have the risk tolerance for. We stayed out of the market for many years until the products moved that way, and that's the only time that we started entering the market many years ago. So, the fourth element of it is the risk tolerance. And then the final is the site. Yes, we like diversification, but the size of the long-term care block characterizes it as new blocks that if and when we do potentially take it with those other criteria, would be modest in size. So hopefully, that gives you a bit of clarity. The one that across the wires recently, we obviously did not have a share of that block of business.