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Rigetti Computing, Inc. (RGTI)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Mar 27, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Rigetti Computing Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentations there'll be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I will now turn the conference to the host Dr. Subodh Kulkarni, President and CEO. Please go ahead.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Thank you, Valerie. Good afternoon, and thank you for participating in Rigetti's earnings conference call covering the fourth quarter and full year 2022. Joining me today is Jeff Bertelsen, our CFO, who will review our results in some detail following my overview. Our CTO, David Rivas, is also here to participate in the Q&A session. We will be pleased to answer your questions at the conclusion of our remarks. We would like to point out that this call, and Rigetti's Q4 and year-end press release contain forward-looking statements regarding current expectations, objectives and underlying assumptions regarding our outlook and future operating results. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described and are discussed in more detail in our Form 10-Q for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2022, and our subsequent filings with the SEC, including our Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2022, and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We urge you to review these discussions of risk factors. Turning now to the business of the fourth quarter of 2022, I would like to start by sharing a few words about myself and my thoughts on leading Rigetti and the opportunity ahead of us now. My career for the past 30-plus years has been with the semiconductor industry, starting with IBM Research and within an IBM fab, after completing my Master's and PhD at MIT in Chemical Engineering. Later, I served as CEO for Prism Computational Sciences. For the past nine years, I've been CEO of CyberOptics, a semi cap company that was successfully acquired by Nordson Corporation in November of 2022. While quantum is a new world, the heart of the technical work is basically a…

Jeff Bertelsen

Analyst

Thanks, Subodh. Revenues in the fourth quarter of 2022 were $6.1 million, compared to $1.8 million in the same period in 2021. Revenue variability is to be expected at this stage of the company's evolution given the nature of contract timing with major government agencies. Our development contracts also primarily consist of technical milestone-based work with revenue recognition varying according to the timing of deliverables. Gross margins in the fourth quarter of 2022 came in at 87% versus 62% in the same period in 2021. The year-over-year increase in gross margin was mainly driven by the timing of revenue recognition, and the variable nature of our customer contracts. On the expense side, total OpEx in the fourth quarter of 2022 was $32 million, compared to $12.2 million in the same period, the prior year. The year-over-year increase was mainly due to our investment in research and development, $5.4 million goodwill impairment charge, as well as higher costs related to being a public company. In the fourth quarter of 2022, stock compensation expense totaled $7.2 million, and depreciation and amortization expense totaled $2.2 million, compared to $375,000 and $1.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2021. The change in the fair value of the Ampere warrant recorded through G&A expense in the fourth quarter of 2022 was a gain of $300,000 compared to a gain of $170,000 in the fourth quarter of 2021. Operating loss for the fourth quarter of 2022 was $26.7 million, compared to an operating loss of $11.1 million for the same period of 2021. Net loss for the fourth quarter of 2022 was $22.9 million or $0.19 per share, compared to a net loss of $14.1 million, or $0.61 per share for the same period of 2021. Cash, cash equivalents and available for sale investments totaled $142.8…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Sidney Ho of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Good afternoon. Can you guys hear me?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Yes, we can.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon, guys. And thank you for taking our question. This is [indiscernible] for Sydney. I guess my first question is on the technology roadmap. And Subodh, when we look at the new plan that you guys laid out, there's clearly a lot more focus on improving fidelities before moving to higher qubit count. But I guess my question is, how do you balance the focus on lowering error rates versus increasing number of qubits in order to maintain technological competitiveness?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

It's a good question, and thanks for that question. Certainly, both are important, the total number of qubits and the quality of qubits, long-term. But in the short term that -- by that we mean 2023, and even part of 2024, where we were, we decided that fidelity was our shortcoming, if you will, for the time being. We know we have already taken 240-qubit chips and put them together, tied them together, if you will, to get our 80-qubit, Aspen M3 system. So we know how to scale up fundamentally taking two different dies and stitching them together, if you will. But what we need to demonstrate is more than 99% 2-Q fidelity across all of the qubits. And that we haven't done yet. We have in -- as I mentioned, we have in principle shown that we can get 99.5% 2-Q fidelity on a few qubits, but not on the entire lattice. The quality of qubits right now is critical, in my opinion across the whole industry. And this is not just a Rigetti statement. All of us need to improve the quality of qubits before we go up in just the number of qubits. There are many experts in the industry who have also said that, if you could get near perfect qubits, you can get a lot of computational power, even at 40 or 50 qubit, certainly with 84-qubits, and very good fidelity, we think we can demonstrate narrow quantum advantage type with some applications. Hope that answers your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. That's very clear. Thank you so much. And then I guess my second question is on these cost cutting measures that you announced earlier in February. I guess, when we look at the new technology roadmap, and these measures, should we expect any sort of impact to your industry partnerships that you announced last year, for example, the one with Ampere or any of your DARPA contracts?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Again, good question. We already have several partnerships that we are working on, including the one with Ampere that you mentioned. We have several partnerships with DoE and DoD labs as well. We will continue to be engaged with our partners and seek more partners that makes sense. We have laid out and defined our roadmap. So long as the partnerships are consistent with the roadmaps, we would be very happy to be seeking new partners and staying with the current ones. If the partnerships are taking us in a different direction, we will choose to take different actions. But as of today, the partnerships we have in place, we feel very good about them and helping us accomplish our objective of narrow quantum advantage in the next two to three years.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Okay, that makes sense. And I guess if I can squeeze one last one in, I guess, if you could touch on sort of the level of engagement that you're seeing among your customers given sort of like the tighter IT budgets, meaning are customers still willing to adopt quantum systems and instead of explore the technology at the states [ph]? Thank you.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Sure. So again, good question. I mean, we certainly see a lot of interest from our customers, including the ones who are using AWS, as well as Azure and our own cloud platform. Having said that, certainly we are still very much in the research stage of quantum computing. So the interest level from customers right now is to use our QPU, for some research purposes. It's not really to try our QPU to for any commercial application, where they will see a benefit with respect to a classical computation. So we are seeing very high interest and very high awareness of where we are and where we are going. I certainly anticipate that as we get our fidelity up to 98%, later this year and 99% next year, the customer engagement will only continue to increase, because then they will be able to do more and more with those kinds of QPUs. So expect customer engagement to increase. Right now, as I said, it's high, but primarily for research purposes.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thanks, guys.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of David Williams of Benchmark Company. Your line is open.

David Williams

Analyst

Hey, good afternoon, and thanks for taking the question. So Subodh, I just want to touch briefly, but when we spoke last, I think -- I feel today that you're a lot more confident, in just kind of talking about the roadmap and where you are. I'm just kind of curious if there's anything that's changed that gives you that more comfort? Is it because you've just had a chance more time with the technology? Because I think you felt that it was very solid, but it does feel like even from the timelines that you and I had spoken about before, it feels like maybe some of that's a little more advanced now. So just kind of any color there would be very helpful.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Certainly. Thanks David, for the question. One thing that has certainly boosted my confidence and our team's confidence here is the internal deployment of our Ankaa-1 chip. When we talked last more than a month ago, we had not done that. In the month of March, we have successfully deployed our Ankaa-1 chip, which is brand new architecture of a square lattice and tunable couplers. And it is exactly doing what we expected it to do. I mean, we are seeing a significantly better MEDIAN 2-Q FIDELITY, as well as significantly faster gauge speeds. We have some challenges still left to work on in other metrics areas, and we obviously want to continue to improve fidelity and gauge speeds from where we are. But the fact that our first out of-the-gate, brand new architecture is working exactly as planned, and getting us in the right direction has certainly boosted my and our team's confidence. Hopefully that answers your question.

David Williams

Analyst

That's very great color. Thanks so much for that. And then maybe just on the philosophy, clearly you have made some structural changes, I think in the spend. But I think just it'd be great to hear your philosophy and how you're thinking about the roadmap? And then maybe just if you could touch on the employee morale, just kind of given some the structural changes that have been made within these four years?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Yeah, again good question. The employee morale does tie with technical performance as you can imagine. Most of our employees are technical employees. And all of them are seeing the performance that I just reported, which is Ankaa-1 is internally deployed. We are getting better Median 2-Q Fidelities and our Aspen system and faster gates, and all our employees see that. That certainly excites employees, because they see the goal is getting closer and more visible now. As we continue to improve fidelity that will only continue to improve. Regarding your question about roadmap, as I stated, and simply put, right now, we want to focus on fidelity. We want to stay at 84-qubit with our Ankaa-1 chip and continue to improve fidelity to get to 98% Median 2-Q Fidelity by the end of this year, get to 99% sometime next year. Once we get there, then tile four Ankaa chips to get us the 336-qubit Lyra system, we feel pretty good about our ability to scale, because we have already done that once with our 40-qubit chip. We know exactly what is involved in tiling chips and making them communicate across each other. So we have to repeat that obviously with our 84-qubit chip. But once we get our fidelity to 99%, we think that is the right time to take on that challenge, and through that we can tile four 84-qubit chip into 336 without losing any performance. So roadmap simply is, we have already deployed Ankaa-1 internally. Now the roadmap is to continue to improve the fidelity to get it to 98% by the end of this year, 99% sometime next year, and then tile four Ankaa to get Lyra 336-qubit. In parallel, we'll continue to develop our software stack. We have already published some papers to show what kind of potential benefits one can see with QPUs, we'll continue to work more in that area. And the overall goal obviously, as I said in my statement is to demonstrate narrow quantum advantage, which is significantly better performance or cost compared to classical computers in the next two to three years. So that is the overriding goal right now is to get NQA in the next two to three years.

David Williams

Analyst

Really great color. And thanks for the clarity there. And maybe just one last one for Jeff, if you kind of think about I guess on the OpEx side, you've given a target where you expect your cash balance to be. But can you give us kind of how we should be thinking about OpEx and how that trends, just given some of the restructurings already taking place?

Jeff Bertelsen

Analyst

Yeah, I mean, great question. I mean, in terms of forward-looking guidance, I think this year, we're really going to be focused mainly on our year-end cash balance. Obviously, as I'm sure, you know, when we reduced headcount by 50 people, there'll be certainly be some savings there from the restructuring effort. And also we intend certainly to focus on our expense management and try to reduce expenses wherever possible without impacting our technology roadmap and those plans. But in terms of the forward-looking number, we're mainly focused on our year-end cash balance range that we gave today.

David Williams

Analyst

Okay, very helpful. Thanks again. Certainly appreciate it. And best of luck on the quarter.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Thank you, David.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Quinn Bolton with Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Quinn Bolton

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Hey, guys. Congratulations on the fourth quarter revenue. I guess, Jeff, you just sort of touched on managing 2023 to that year-ending cash balance. But I guess, could you give us any sort of sense, revenue, do you think that could grow in 2023? I know, it's going to be lumpy around contract signings and milestone achievements. But with the change in strategy, does that change any of the milestones in previously signed contracts? And then also CapEx, I think you said, is $22.7 million in 2023. Can you give us some sense, what the CapEx might be in your initial plan for the year, understanding that things may change through the year, and you're going to try to keep that cash and ending balance at $65 million to $75 million? But any thoughts you might have on CapEx would be helpful?

Jeff Bertelsen

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Sure. I mean, I don't know that, given again where we're at in our evolution and our focus is on the technology roadmap. At the same time, Subodh did touch on partnerships. I don't know that as of today structurally anything will change significantly with our revenue one way or the other. Obviously, we're focused on it, and it's an important source of cash. So we'll continue to keep eyes on that and try to grow it wherever possible. In terms of CapEx, we did invest $22.7 million in CapEx last year. CapEx certainly is a key for us with our fab operation. Just given the restructuring that we did and the focus on cash, we would expect to see some reduction in CapEx. I think that's fair. But we haven't put -- we're not going to put a specific number on it from a guidance perspective. But I think in general, with our focus on cash, having fewer people, directionally that's what I'd expect to see.

Quinn Bolton

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Got it. And I guess, just as you think about the technology roadmap now really prioritizing, improving gate fidelities, do you have some flexibility in either OpEx or CapEx to the extent that revenue does decline -- or how much -- I guess how much flexibility do you have to managing to that $65 million to $75 million number to the extent you see fluctuations in the revenue line?

Jeff Bertelsen

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

I mean, certainly, we did -- for the full year, we did $13 million in revenue. But so certainly I think if there's any fluctuation, we certainly have the cash resources and the bandwidth to cover it. Again, our forecast is for $65 million to $75 million in revenue. So I think right now we're definitely amply funded to derive our goals and objectives for this year. I don't know, Subodh, if you would add anything?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Yeah. I was going to add some color to it, Jeff. So Quinn, I mean, as Jeff just said, and I mentioned in my statements, our focus will be on technical performance, particularly fidelity. Obviously, as Jeff said, if we can get more sales from our existing partners, like the DoE labs or the DoD labs, we will welcome that because that's very good cash. But my overriding focus for the technical team is let's -- so long as the revenues come consistent with our overall technology goals, those are great revenues. And we will obviously pursue them. However, if the revenues come with strings attached, which are taking us away from our technology goals, so for instance, if somebody from the DoE lab or some other commercial partner comes and wants us to do something that takes us away from employing fidelity, we will say no to those revenues. Because we don't want to chase revenues at this point. These are all research contracts. We really want to get our fidelities up. We are playing this game for the long term. We believe getting fidelity up is the most critical thing. Once we get there, then we can tile and get the scale up. So yes, revenues are important. And we will obviously maximize as much as possible, so long as they are consistent with our overall technology goal. Hope that answers that question.

Quinn Bolton

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Yeah, no. It does. Thank you, Subodh. And I guess just sort of a technology question for you. Obviously, I think your decision to prioritize improving gate fidelity makes a lot of sense, rather than just trying to build a device with the greatest number of qubits. Just my question is as you focus on improving qubit fidelity for Ankaa to 98% this year and 99% in 2024, do you think you'll be able to maintain that kind of two-qubit gate fidelity, as you start to tile these Ankaa devices together? I know you've shown the ability to take two tiles and place them together in Aspen, but that was at lower fidelity levels. And I'm just wondering if you've done any internal work today trying to link Ankaa to maintain that higher 98%, 99% fidelity as you begin to tile these devices together, because I think that would be obviously the next key to scaling the technology.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Terrific question, Quinn. Certainly, we know as you said, how to tile 240-qubit chips at lower fidelity without losing any performance. We have some basic work done, which shows that we should be able to do the same with Ankaa with high fidelity, but that's mostly at on a much smaller scale and simulation kind of work, because we don't have a Ankaa type chip at 98% or 99% fidelity today. All indications are that the tiling approach that we did for Apsen will work for Ankaa and we will not see any deterioration in performance. But we absolutely have to prove that next year once we start tiling to our four Ankaa chips at 99% 2-Q fidelity. So there is some risk here. But we feel that risk is manageable, and we feel that we have a good handle on that risk.

Quinn Bolton

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Understood. Thank you.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst · Needham & Company. Your line is open.

Thank you, Quinn.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. One moment, please. Our next question comes from the line of Krish Sankar of Cowen. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, guys. This is Eddie for Chris. Can you hear me?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Yes, we can.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yeah. Hey, congrats on the new role. Nvidia at GTC Conference last week talked about the GPU for error correction and mentioned that it's working with you guys, among other quantum computer companies. Can you walk us through how the error correction process works? And what innings are we, and how GPUs can accelerate error correction mechanism for quantum computers?

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Certainly, at a high level, both error mitigation and error correction are extremely important in the final computational performance. And we are looking at both those areas, albeit not as much as the fundamental chip performance and mix layer in the stack, which is a control software and application software. Having said that, there's a lot of good work going on within the superconducting quantum computing companies in error corrections from other companies. And they are doing some pretty good work to show what exactly needs to happen with error correction. I will say that all of us are critically dependent on high fidelity to begin with. So error correction today, when the median fidelities of our chips are sub-98% is good work. Nothing wrong with it. But it doesn't really pay any dividends to be doing error corrections, when you are less than 98%, median 2-Q fidelities. To make error corrections work, you really need to be north of 99% median 2-Q fidelity, and ideally north of 99.5% or even higher before error correction makes sense. David is here with me, our CTO. David, do you have any thoughts about error corrections more than what I just said?

David Rivas

Analyst

The only thing I would add is that for error correction to take place, you need your underlying control systems to be capable of being programmed both to take measurements, our [ph] circuits are executing, but also to do what are fairly high performance computations, in tandem with them to evaluate the syndromes that are being produced on the system. So one of the things that Rigetti has invested in early on is a highly capable control system capable of being augmented in such a way. This is something that while it's not unique in the industry, it is -- there's only a couple of us that are actually doing it.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Interesting, interesting. Thanks for that. And another one, when you stack more than four tiles together, does it get exponentially difficult to increase fidelity rates? Or is it like the most difficult part, is the early stages. And once you establish that the technology work, it gets a bit easier, or maybe it doesn't get as hard as during the initial stages.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

And it does come down to the fundamental physics here, Krish, on how the electrons and photons tangle across the different dies. All the work we have done so far and including the current Apsen M3 system, we feel we have got the physics well understood. We have proven that you can entangle across chips without losing any performance. So clearly the fundamental principle is there. But as I answered the previous question that we have demonstrated that with lower median 2-Q fidelities. We absolutely have to prove that the same holds true with higher median 2-Q fidelities, once Ankaa is at the 99% level. All indications based on our work we have done so far with smaller qubits, and simulation studies suggest that we should be able to get there, but we absolutely have to prove it next year. But the physics is sound that we can entangle across dies and that is the gist of our scale up strategy is to use the effectively a chiplet like philosophy that is commonly deployed in semiconductor industry today, but in the quantum world by using multiple dies and tiling them together.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thank you, Subodh. Thanks, Jeff.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further question at this time. I'd like turn the call back over to Subodh Kulkarni for any closing remarks.

Subodh Kulkarni

Analyst

Thank you. In closing, we believe Rigetti has enormous potential and could contribute tremendous value, as quantum computing potentially becomes mainstream between now and 2030. We believe quantum computing is probably one of the areas that can experience expansive growth in the next 5 to 10 years. There's obviously risks involved in quantum computing. It's not for the faint of heart. But we feel very good and believe at Rigetti that it's a question of when not if. And we believe the next decade is going to show that quantum computers will change the way we know the digital world today. Rigetti has an incredibly compelling approach. I'm excited to be part of the company. And I thank you for your interest and time. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.