Sergio Traversa
Analyst · Oppenheimer.
Yes. So, we did -- it’s never too early to discuss with the payors. So we keep everybody that is in the chain as updated as possible. From my experience, the payors really consider seriously to get into a conversation when they have Phase 3 data. Before data from their perspective, they will say show me the data, then we can discuss. Like really top-down and -- the monotherapy, it’s a bit more challenging in terms of reimbursement and depending on the price, because the frontline therapy that is currently proposed supported by the payors is generic SSRI. They work a little bit and they are relatively safe, and they’re extremely inexpensive. So, that’s a little bit of a hard, though, to overcome in monotherapy. Adjunctive, there is no antidepressant approved. So that would be a great. It’s going to be very difficult to have an adjunctive treatment where there’s no competition in terms of antidepressant. And that works fast. And hopefully, we don’t believe it will be priced at the esketamine range, so would be potentially affordable by a mass market patient population. So, that one, we don’t believe it’s going to be a major challenge to get reimbursement and as -- I don’t know how to call it, but as a frontline adjunctive treatment. With that said, going back for a second to monotherapy. If you -- the data in Phase 3 will be any close to the Phase 2 data that we have seen in monotherapy, meaning the monotherapy will mimic somewhat the adjunctive Phase 2 data, it’s going to be difficult for the payors, not to reimburse the drug that works much faster. There is pharmacoeconomic data, too, right, that if you can get out or improve your depression status quicker, you are more productive. That’s more European, but I do believe the U.S. also focused on these aspects, too, right? And so the pharmacoeconomic. If you can improve and go to work a lot faster than if you take an SSRI, that’s probably a lot more value than to save some reimbursement or some payors money, using -- starting with an SSRI. So, if you have a rapid acting and sustained efficacy drug, it’s going to be difficult not to reimburse it, even as a monotherapy. The key will be clinical data.