Earnings Labs

Regional Management Corp. (RM)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 1, 2023

$39.53

-0.35%

Key Takeaways · AI generated
AI summary not yet generated for this transcript. Generation in progress for older transcripts; check back soon, or browse the full transcript below.

Same-Day

-10.48%

1 Week

-12.59%

1 Month

-10.64%

vs S&P

-18.69%

Transcript

Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Regional Management Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode, and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Garrett Edson with ICR. Please go ahead.

Garrett Edson

Analyst

Thank you and good afternoon. By now, everyone should have access to our earnings announcement and supplemental presentation, which were released prior to this call and may be found on our website at regionalmanagement.com. Before we begin our formal remarks, I will direct you to page 2 of our supplemental presentation, which contains important disclosures concerning forward-looking statements and the use of non-GAAP financial measures. Part of our discussion today may include forward-looking statements, which are based on management's current expectations, estimates and projections about the company's future and financial performance and business prospects. These forward-looking statements speak only as of today and are subject to various assumptions, risks uncertainties and other factors that are difficult to predict and that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and therefore you should not place undue reliance upon them. We refer all of you to our press release presentation and recent filings with the SEC for a more detailed discussion of our forward-looking statements and the risks and uncertainties that could impact our future operating results and financial condition. Also, our discussion today may include references to certain non-GAAP measures. Reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measure can be found within our earnings announcement or earnings presentation and posted on our website at regionalmanagement.com. I would now like to introduce Rob Beck, President and CEO of Regional Management Corp.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Thanks, Garrett, and welcome to our third quarter 2023 earnings call. I'm joined today by Harp Rana, our Chief Financial Officer. Harp and I will take you through our third quarter results, discuss the current operating environment and loan portfolio performance and share our expectations for the fourth quarter. We continued our focus on portfolio quality, expense management and strong execution of our core business in the third quarter. We generated $8.8 million of net income and $0.91 of diluted EPS. Strong loan demand and our conservative underwriting criteria led to a high-quality portfolio growth of $62 million, record revenue of $141 million and a sequential increase in revenue yields of 80 basis points, all of which exceeded our expectations for the quarter. We also continue to closely manage our G&A expenses, while investing in our business driving a 50 basis point improvement in our operating expense ratio from the prior year. We're pleased with our team's ability to deliver consistent predictable and superior results for our shareholders quarter after quarter. As you would expect, we're keeping a close eye on the economic environment and its impact on our consumer base. Recent data indicates a strong labor market, moderating inflation and real wage growth. However, we continue to observe stress in certain segments of our portfolio caused by inflationary pressures. We also remain mindful that the resumption of student loan repayments will impact many consumers' budgets and we're monitoring whether recent geopolitical events may cause energy prices to increase further. As a result, we remain selective in making loans within our tighten credit box. While we achieved strong high-quality portfolio growth in the third quarter, we slowed our year-over-year growth rate to 9% down from 22% in the third quarter of last year. We're prepared to lean back into growth…

Harp Rana

Analyst

Thank you Rob, and hello everyone. I'll now take you through our third quarter results in more detail. On page three of the supplemental presentation, we provide our third quarter financial highlights. We generated net income of $8.8 million and diluted earnings per share of $0.91. Our results were driven once again by high-quality portfolio and revenue growth and careful management of expenses, partially offset by increased funding costs and net credit loss headwinds caused by macroeconomic conditions. Turning to pages four and five, demand remained strong in the quarter but our tighter underwriting standards emphasis on present and former borrower originations and collections focus led us to increase total originations by only 2% on the prior year. By channel, direct mail originations were up 12%, while branch and digital originations were down 1% and 10% respectively. As we've consistently noted, we've deliberately reduced originations in recent quarters as we appropriately balance growth with further enhancing the credit quality of our portfolio. Page 6 displays our portfolio growth and product mix for the quarter. We closed the third quarter with net finance receivables of just over $1.75 billion up $62 million from June 30th and ahead of our guidance. As of the end of the third quarter, our large loan book comprised 73% of our total portfolio and 85% of our portfolio carried an APR at or below 36%. Notably, we grew our small loan portfolio by $30 million or 7% in the third quarter. These higher margin loans will support future revenue yield, offsetting increasing funding costs and meet our return hurdles, despite higher expected net credit losses on these somewhat riskier segments. Looking ahead, we expect our ending net receivables in the fourth quarter to grow by approximately $35 million as we continue to monitor the economic environment…

Rob Beck

Analyst

Thanks, Harp. And as always, I'd like to recognize our team for the outstanding results that it's delivered throughout this economic cycle. Looking ahead, we'll remain focused on consistent execution of our core business, including originating high-quality loans within our tighten credit box, closely managing expenses and maintaining a strong balance sheet. Our geographic expansion over the past few years have greatly increased our addressable market, positioning us well to take advantage of consumer demand, while maintaining our conservative credit posture. We're pleased that our early delinquency and first payment default rates continue to outperform 2019 levels thanks in large part to our credit tightening actions over the last several quarters and the strong performance of our more recent loan vintages. We also remain sharply focused on limiting our G&A expenses, while still furthering our key technology, digital and data analytics initiatives that will create additional growth, improved credit performance and greater operating leverage in the future. And, of course, we'll continue to monitor the economic environment, so that when the conditions are right we will need to immediately leverage our substantial balance sheet strength, liquidity and borrowing capacity to reopen our credit box and lean further into growth. Thank you again for your time and interest. I'll now open up the call for questions. Operator would you please open the line?

Operator

Operator

Certainly. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from John Hecht with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

John Hecht

Analyst

Good afternoon guys. Thanks for taking my questions. First question is I think you guys said $52 million of losses charge-offs in the fourth quarter. I'm just wondering the roll rates you're seeing behind that are they relatively consistent with recent quarters or anything that you're assuming in terms of the migration of roll rates?

Rob Beck

Analyst

Hey, John, how are you? Thanks for the question. Yeah, we're assuming consistent roll rates from prior quarter with the normal seasonal lift that we would see albeit off of elevated levels still.

John Hecht

Analyst

Okay. And then I think you guys referred a couple of times in the presentation a little bit of focus on recurring customers rather than new customers part of the tightening. I mean, what [Technical Difficulty] of a recurring customer, but a new customer as just to get a sense for what that specific focus might do to the loss mix?

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yeah. You broke up there John right in the middle of your question. Can I ask you to repeat it because I think we missed the gist of it?

John Hecht

Analyst

I apologize. I'm wondering what the kind of loss experience is between new and recurring customers to get a sense of what that focus might do to losses over the next few quarters?

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yeah. And so look new borrowers and we've never disclosed the difference between a new borrower and an existing borrower in terms of higher losses. But new borrowers do perform worse until they're seasoned. Now, obviously, we've been shifting the mix of our book to present borrowers and former borrowers from new borrowers over a period of time. But when you're in new geographies and the new states we are, we're still going to have a reasonably high percentage of new borrowers and that will naturally take time to season through. But I will tell you though that our underwriting models adjust for the new borrower effect and assume additional stress on those customers and we underwrite, obviously, with the assumption not only of that stress but the incremental cost of funds that we incur today as well as fully loaded expenses to make sure that we achieve our hurdle. So it's factored into our models. But Harp, anything to add to that?

Harp Rana

Analyst

Yes. I would just say that our originations continue to be concentrated on programs for present and former borrowers and we know that they performed better than new borrowers just because of the on-us data that we have on them. And then the other thing that I would probably add to that, in terms of the new borrowers Rob touched on this, but they fit within our risk box. So when we're making loans to new borrowers, we're making sure that they are meeting those internal hurdles that we have.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yes. And John, over 70% of our customers are former and present borrowers this quarter, which has been pretty steady I guess since last year, a little bit up from last year but pretty steady. And again, that's related to the new states we're in new states. We're going to have some of that new borrowers.

John Hecht

Analyst

Yes. Okay.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yes. And just also important to note though the vintages fourth quarter 2022 and more recent are all performing very well. Now, they're just now getting to the earliest vintage fourth quarter 2022 is just now getting to 12 months on book. So we're starting to see what the peak losses are and the other ones are still working through. But right now performance is good and that's reflective of that mix of new borrowers and present and former borrowers. So that's -- we feel good about where things are given the current macro environment for those vintages.

John Hecht

Analyst

That's a very good context. Thank you. And my last question is, I think you guys mentioned and what we've heard is the kind of loss experienced somewhat were tied to income ranges. I'm wondering are you seeing anything like any dispersion or I guess of credit metrics on a geographical basis? Or is there anything else to discern? Or is it -- in your mind is it largely income driven?

Rob Beck

Analyst

Well, it's not just one factor. I mean look, we -- naturally when we tightened, we reduced the lower FICO and increase the percentage to higher income bands. I think that's just a natural effect of when you're tightening. So, it's kind of all built into the mix. But obviously employment is a factor. Industry, states perform differently. We have all these cuts in our underwriting models. In fact, hundreds and hundreds of cells where we look at what the returns are and whether that's small loan, large loan, check, digital loan, homeowner, renter by state, we have all those cuts. And we've talked about tightening since the fourth quarter of 2022 where we really tightened. But we've been tightening throughout 2022 but inflation shot up to 9%. But ever since fourth quarter 2022 and every quarter that goes by, we're constantly turning the dials in reaction to what we see in all those individual segments and cuts that we have. And so we feel good that we're making the right decisions and putting on the assets that will hit a hurdle even under stress -- additional stressed environment, and we're putting on in the end the highest confidence assets each and every quarter.

John Hecht

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The next question is from Vincent Caintic from [indiscernible]. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Good afternoon. Thanks for all the detailed guidance that you're giving in the fourth quarter and lay out in the slides is really very helpful. And first, just wondering the trends that we're seeing in the fourth quarter, just if that's a good jumping off point when we think about 2024 going forward. I know, it's a little bit ways away. But when you think about the revenues the credit performance and your expense controls just wondering, if that's a good jumping off point in the fourth quarter? Thank you.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yes. I mean, naturally you've got to look at fourth quarter and project out from there. And we're not giving specific guidance at this point in time for next year. Naturally, we're still in the middle of our budget process. But I think most importantly is, those vintages that we said originated at fourth quarter 2022 and sooner is going to be about 80% of the book by the end of this year. A couple more months of seeing how those vintages perform is going to help give us better guidance for all of you as to what we might expect next year. What we do know is the 20% of the book that is pre fourth quarter 2022 that those vintages and some have called it a back book, those vintages are going to create stress in the early part of next year. By the very nature, they've been matured renewed where they could be renewed paid off and there's still a lot of good customers in there, but there's also customers in there probably disproportionately that are under some form of borrower assistance program, which for us is important for them to stay active and engaged particularly leading up to tax season. So if we sit here right now and say, what is the credit profile look like for next year, I don't think anybody can predict precisely particularly given some of the macro events. But what I think we can say is, there will be some stress from those earlier vintages that the more recent vintages are performing well and we haven't seen anything there that is causing concern, and I think the things that will make a difference for next year will be what's the tax refund season look like. I think that's always a big help and a lever very beginning of the year, and we will ring-fence those assets and make sure we put everything against collecting against them. And then of course, if there's any other macro stresses that might be out there, probably the one that we're all kind of looking at is, is there any results or contagion from the Middle East that ends up hitting oil prices. So that would be the one thing we would be looking at as we get close here to the end of the year and figuring out what next year looks like.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Great. And then I guess the other -- maybe those other lines like expenses you've been pretty able to hold those expenses controls pretty well about the expense ratio. Just wondering, if there's more kind of room to hold it if the expenses can you hold it kind of relatively fixed for a while?

Rob Beck

Analyst

What I would tell you is, that we are laser-like focused that every dollar we spend, helps drive the business forward. And we've been strongly profitable in this environment and yet still investing in the business. And we will adjust the spending pattern as we need to continue to grow the business where growth is needed or to continue to drive operating leverage that we need to do overtime as well. So I can't really give you any more guidance than that right now.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. And last one for me. So the product mix has shifted. You've talked about high-quality loans doing more, auto-secured. And just wondering if that's a trend that we should expect to continue? And if there's any way -- are there may be certain products you want to lean into more? Thank you.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Well, look, I think auto-secured is definitely one that we'll continue to lean into and grow. And I kind of view that and we've said this before, kind of the one end of the barbell. We have our large loan products that are the bulk of our business now and that are performing well. And then we have the small loan business. And the small loan business is very attractive on a return basis. And you would have seen that we actually grew that this quarter sequentially, same as we did last year sequentially at this time. And part of that is, we -- it was part of our tightening where we said, you know what, we have the opportunity instead of making a larger loan to some group of customers. We can give them a smaller loan, but charge them a little bit more because we perceive the risk to be higher. So we risk based priced it and put on some more small loans. And effectively we think created a pretty good return on that growth that we did in the small loan book. So, there's always that opportunity for us to lean in, where it's attractive on small loans. We haven't limited ourselves to a rate cap at 36%. So having the ability particularly in a rising rate environment or hopefully a flat rate environment, we'll see how that turns out. Having that ability to lean back into those segments when it's appropriate, is something that I think helps us stand out versus competitors.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Very helpful. Thank you.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Great. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Bill Dezellem with Tieton Capital. Please go ahead.

Bill Dezellem

Analyst

Thank you. I like to kind of circle back to the comments that you just made here. You had some pretty significant small loan origination growth this quarter. What is that actually signaling to us, or what were you doing there? I think you started to allude to that in your last answer.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yeah. I think Bill as we look to put on high confidence growth, high confidence growth doesn't just mean you put on larger loans with the highest risk ranks. You've got to look at it from a bottom-line return on a risk-based basis as well. And so when we were looking -- and I give you an example, when you're looking at whether it's digital or a check or even a branch loan renewal on a branch, as we look at that and we've been staying focused on where we might reprice and we have this 1,500 line on small loans instead of giving somebody $2,000 or $2,500 below a 36% rate, we're looking at the credit quality and say on the margin you know what, let's give the person a $1,500 loan and maybe charge them a 43% rate because we believe that they're a good credit on a relative basis and now we've got the pricing to make sure that we've got plenty of room and buffer built into the stresses on the model to be able to achieve our return hurdles. So we -- when we say a highest confidence asset, we're looking at the highest confident asset on a marginal basis bottom line return. It's not just necessarily putting on the highest FICO customer.

Blli Dezellem

Analyst

And Rob taking that one step further said another way that's the highest ROE customer? Or are you seeing -- saying something slightly different than that?

Rob Beck

Analyst

I'm not going to say it's the necessarily the highest ROE or ROA customer. I think what I -- because it varies. What I'm saying is when you look at the best assets you can put on there is a portion of the portfolio those small loan customers that have equal and maybe better returns than other parts of the portfolio that you're putting on and it's attractive business.

Blli Dezellem

Analyst

All right. And then taking that a step further I believe that you have given guidance for a 50 basis point sequential decline in your revenue yield in Q4 versus Q3. Would you relate that expectation to what you had just highlighted for us? They seem in contrast. That's why I posed the question.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Yes. And the decline in revenue yield that you see in the fourth quarter is really because of the seasonal increase in NCLs and delinquencies which will lead to higher reversals. So that's going to be what's driving that impact on a sequential basis. But I think if you were to back out that guidance from the fourth quarter guidance still the resulting revenue yields would be higher than what they were in second quarter. So, the repricing power is in there. It obviously takes time to build as the portfolio turns over and we're not done repricing. We are always looking for opportunities to reprice, but it gets masked quarter-to-quarter sometimes by the seasonality of the NCLs.

Blli Dezellem

Analyst

That's very helpful. Thank you. And then, I certainly see the many uncertainties out in the broad environment. But that having been said, are you seeing anything that leads you to think about being more aggressive with originations?

Rob Beck

Analyst

I'm surprised I got that question in this environment. Look, we're constantly asking ourselves as I think you would expect us to do is, are we seeing things that indicate we should lean into growth or are we seeing things that would say hey let's pull back, right? It's a weekly discussion if you will. And we're able to turn those dials on the underwriting side weekly to the greatest extent possible. And so I think that inflation coming down is key. I think we want to see as I mentioned earlier, how our recent vintages continue to mature here over the next three months or so, because look, that's the best indication is where you tightened or you're seeing the performance that you expected. And then I think it really comes down to just seeing, if there's any other macro headwinds that are out there. I mean we like the fact there's lots of jobs out there. Unemployment is low. The economy seems to be robust and maybe heading for a soft landing even with some pullback in consumer spending. But we're mindful of the fact that there are other effects that could hit us particularly, if oil prices spike for some reason. And so we're just taking that all into consideration. I think it's partly why we're guiding to kind of a more modest growth in the fourth quarter versus third quarter because we're making these judgments real-time.

Bill Dezellem

Analyst

Great. Thank you for the time.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Sounds great. Appreciate

Operator

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Beck for any closing remarks.

Rob Beck

Analyst

Thanks, operator and thanks everyone for joining the call. Look, as we close out this year and approach 2024, as I said, we're going to continue to monitor the changing macro conditions and the overall health of the consumer. And let me just say again, and I know we had it in our prepared remarks, but we're focused on the fundamentals, strong underwriting. We're adjusting our underwriting as needed. We're focused on disciplined growth and growth as appropriate, as we put on our highest confidence assets. We're always focused on tight expense management and investing in those initiatives that drive growth and improve our operating leverage and of course, maintaining a strong balance sheet and liquidity. And those are the mantra in which we manage the business and we'll continue to do so. And I think like everybody, we're hoping for a brighter 2024 and we're prepared to – we're positioned well for 2024, regardless of the environment but we're hoping for a very strong environment.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.