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Rambus Inc. (RMBS)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Mon, Jan 29, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Rambus Fourth Quarter and FY 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Rahul Mathur, Chief Financial Officer. You may begin your conference.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Thank you, Jessie, and welcome to the Rambus fourth quarter 2017 results conference call. I'm Rahul Mathur, CFO, and on the call with me today is Dr. Ron Black, our President and CEO. The press release for the results that we will be discussing today have been furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K. A replay of this call will be available for the next week at 855-859-2056. You can hear the replay by dialing the toll-free number and then entering ID number 8596527 when you hear the prompt. In addition, we are simultaneously Webcasting this call, and along with the audio we are webcasting slides that we will reference during portions of today's call. So, even if you are joining us via conference call, you may want to access the Webcast with the slide presentation. A replay of this call can be accessed on our Web-site beginning today at 5.00 PM Pacific Time. Our discussion today will contain forward-looking statements regarding our financial guidance for future periods, including Q1 2018 and full-year 2018, prospects, product strategies, timing of expected product launches, demand for existing and newly acquired technologies, potential benefits of our recent acquisitions, the growth opportunities of the various markets we serve, and changes we will experience in our financial reporting due to our adoption of new revenue recognition standards starting in Q1 2018, amongst other things. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that are discussed during this call and may be more fully described in the documents we file with the SEC, including our 8-Ks, 10-Qs and 10-Ks. These forward-looking statements may differ materially from our actual results and we are under no obligation to update these statements. In an effort to provide greater clarity in the financials, we are using both GAAP and non-GAAP financial presentation in both our press release and also on this call. We have posted on our Web-site a reconciliation of these non-GAAP financials to the most directly comparable GAAP measures in our press release and our slide presentation. You can see this on our Web-site at rambus.com on the Investor Relations page, under Financial Releases. The order of our call today will be as follows. Ron will start with an overview of the business, I will discuss our financial results including the guidance we issued in today's press release, and then we will end with Q&A. I'll now turn the call over to Ron to provide an overview of the quarter and the year. Ron?

Ron Black

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Thanks, Rahul, and good afternoon everyone. We delivered a solid fourth quarter and strong year for 2017 overall. I'm excited by the progress we are making across all of our businesses as we maintain our growth trajectory for the data center and mobile edge markets, making data faster and safer. From a financial perspective, in Q4 we delivered revenues of $101.9 million, up 4% year-over-year, and our non-GAAP diluted net income per share was $0.19. For the full year, revenue was $393.1 million, up 17% year-over-year. We performed well in 2017 with strong execution in our product groups, demonstrated leadership on strategic programs, and continued licensing of our broad IP portfolio. We signed multiple licensing deals in 2017 and just announced a license agreement with Marvell covering our patented memory, SerDes and securities technologies. 2017 was a positive year for our Memory and Interface Division in both chips and IP cores, and demonstrated our ongoing leadership with the introduction of the industry's first production release of the DDR4 non-volatile register clock driver for NVDIMMs as well as the industry's first silicon-proven server DIMM buffer chipset capable of achieving the speeds [expected] [ph] for next-generation DDR5. We believe these were important achievements as they enable us to drive the ecosystem faster than competition and are leading indicators of success, since first-movers in prior generations have gained a disproportionate market share by being first. They also strengthen our position in DDR4 buffer chips with approximately double the number of OEM and cloud customer qualifications across the Broadwell and Skylake platforms versus 2016, which we expect to lead to significant revenue growth this year. Moving to IP cores, the product team continued to make progress with both commercial traction and product availability over the course of the year with a 25% increase year-over-year…

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Thanks Ron. I'd like to begin with our financial results for the quarter and I'll touch on some highlights for the year. Let me start with some highlights on Slide 7. As Ron mentioned, we had a solid quarter. We delivered revenue growth of 4% year-over-year, up 3% from Q3 and better than our typical seasonality of up 2%. We delivered non-GAAP EPS at the midpoint of our range by executing on our growth initiatives while continuing our investments in our business. We are also pleased with our results for fiscal 2017. Revenue was $393.1 million, up 17% year-over-year. The increase in revenue was due to execution on the acquisitions we made in 2016 and continued strength in our licensing business. We also delivered $117.4 million of cash from operations in 2017, our strongest result since 2010. To drive long-term growth, we continue to leverage our high-margin historic businesses to fuel growth in adjacent areas where we have strong technical and market expertise, with a focus on memory and security. Now let me walk you through some revenue details on Slide 8. Revenue for the fourth quarter was $101.9 million, above the midpoint of guidance we provided of $98 million to $104 million. We have a diversified revenue stream that supports our long-term growth and our Q4 revenue performance was due to strength in our licensing growth. Our licensing business continues to perform well, is the foundation of our success, and is core to our initiatives in both our memory and security businesses. Going into additional detail, our Memory and Interface revenue was $73.9 million, Security was $23.8 million, and our Lighting and Display Technology revenue was $4.2 million. Year-over-year, MID revenue grew by 8% and our Security Division grew by 3%. Let me walk you through our non-GAAP income…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Suji Desilva with ROTH Capital. Your line is open.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Nice job on the progress here. I just want to clarify on the accounting change, Rahul. You're reporting as of 605 for what it might be for the first quarter. How long do you plan to do that and is it the expectation to get a licensing number to help us kind of as that drops off, is that the way to think about it?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

So, I'd like to do it for the transition period of at least a year. I think that will certainly help our investors and analysts understand what's actually happening in our business. Once you have a little more time to go through our press release, we've actually broken out what we expect for royalty revenue under 605 separately. And what we've also done is given you some what we think our licensing billings are going to be as well, and I think that's another operational metric that will help you understand the underlying performance of our business.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Okay, that is helpful. Now switching over to the segments here, can you talk about the memory and the tech business and what we might think about as year-over-year opportunity here and what that might do for gross margin? I know that comes in at a lower margin to your traditional businesses. So it would be helpful to understand the potential impact there.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

So I think Ron has already talked about some of the growth opportunities we have in our memory business, both on the IP side as well as cores as well as from the buffer chip side. From a margin perspective, our IP and cores are very high margin. IP is almost 100%, cores is of course something similar. Our buffer chips are actually closer to about a 50% gross margin, and those are actually pretty good chip margins. I've worked in many companies and I have discussed over years where 50% would be a great aspirational target. But we have about 50% buffer chip margin. Now, the way I look at it is that our business for the buffer chip is already built. We have our engineering teams, we have marketing teams, we have the design team, the sales team, et cetera. So, incremental revenue maybe at 50% gross margin, but I expect it to be 40% plus incremental operating margin because our infrastructure is already there. So, as we grow revenue from a buffer chip perspective, even though it may be slightly dilutive to our overall gross margin to the Company, I expect it to help us get to our 37% to 40% operating margin target that we had under ASC 605.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Okay, great. That's helpful color. And then on the Security side of the business, can you talk about how the business, the revenue tracks from here in terms of gross? Should we expect the customers you have now the licensing will continue, will it be new customers that will layer on there to drive growth, will there be some per-use incremental revenues to boost that further, just to understand how Security revenue tracks here with ticketing and payment and so forth?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Absolutely. What you saw from 2015 to 2016 to 2017 is very strong growth in our Security business overall. I think we did about $76 million in 2016 and almost $97 million in 2017. I'd expect another 10% to 15% top line growth in our Security business over 2018 and I think that's driven by a combination of some of the initiatives that Ron talked about. One of the things that we note in our Security business is we have several different revenue models. So, in many cases we continue to use the license model we have. In other cases we have more of a pay-as-you-go. In some cases customers have an upfront. And in some of the solutions we have on the Security side, you'll see almost like SaaS model. So, there's a lot of different revenue models, different things in the pipeline, but we still expect continued strong growth in our security.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Okay, great. And my last question, perhaps for Ron, Meltdown and Spectre headline that started the year off here can you just help us understand how Rambus' technology might have kind of helped the situation? I understand data was being dumped in the instruction cycle to try to just process a pipeline of instructions. Just help us understand how Rambus technology would help there and if the realization of these holes create potential opportunity for you guys? Thanks.

Ron Black

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

On the CryptoManager platform, we have hardware root-of-trust that we develop and we also partnered with Synopsis for their hardware root-of-trust and also with STMicroelectronics. So our focus has been on the key management, and especially moving to a SaaS type recurring revenue model. But that doesn't mean we didn't continue to invest in extending the roadmap for this type of CryptoManager cores. I think it's been public for a while that we've been working with SiFive and RISC, which we think is an outstanding platform. And in development of our solution to do secure processing with a design to be secure from the start, we found this problem, specifically on branch prediction. So, we've been designing around this for a while on our future products. So, this is something that won't be a problem for what we introduce into the future. And in the existing products with CryptoManager, of course it's hardware root-of-trust but it's not a microprocessor it’s small state machine, so it doesn't have that problem. So, we were part of figuring this out quite a while ago as part of this design, and rest assured that Rambus will not be having this problem when we offer secure processing solutions in the near future.

Suji Desilva

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Great. Helpful. Thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Gary Mobley with Benchmark. Your line is open.

Gary Mobley

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

Thanks for supplying all the information, a lot of stuff to digest here. On the Lighting side of the business, what are the long-term plans for this business? Is there a possible exit of the business in the form of a sale?

Ron Black

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

Yes, absolutely. I think we've been direct that this was an adjacent business for many years. I don't think I remember talking about it on the conference call for years. We were happy with its performance as long as it was in a breakeven state, and of course we were willing to manage some transitions as we looked at things. But once the existing contract didn't make sense, we moved into a model to either sell or close the business, something that's really not core to Rambus anymore. So, anything is available, but now that we've been open with this, obviously this is a short fuse because other customers that we were developing, we had to explain the situation to them, literally as we speak.

Gary Mobley

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

Okay. And I believe your main competitor in buffer chips last week reported their DDR5 clock and I'm just curious, from a competitive standpoint how you stand relative to this main competitor in having product available in the marketplace?

Ron Black

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

So, I think as you know there's an RCD the clock and then there's a DB chip, a data buffer. What we were specific about in our announcement, it was both of those, which is significant because the DB is more difficult of the two chips to complete. And we announced this several months ago. So, we feel of course it's going to be a tough race, IDT is sure a very good competitor, but I feel like we're significantly ahead. And the most important thing is, was in the prepared remarks, if you recall, I think it was in PHY for DDR2 and DDR3 was first and had disproportionate market share than IDT was first on DDR4 and had disproportionate market share, and now hopefully we are executing to be first on DDR5 and we'll garner disproportionate market share over time of course.

Gary Mobley

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

Okay, keep your fingers crossed. Rahul, can you walk through under ASC 606 what is left in revenue recognition for the most part?

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

Sure. So, under ASC 606, what's left in revenue recognition is I would not expect any changes to our product revenue or our contractor or other revenue. So, as I mentioned, I think we expect those to be about $20 million for us in 2018. The other thing that's left is any revenue we have from a royalty perspective or an IP perspective, that is unit based. As you know, many of our licensing agreements are fixed-fee. Now that's provided a lot of benefit to us for many years because of predictability and because of the strong cash flow. In some cases we do have royalty base which are unit based, royalties that come in, and those we would still recognize ratably under 606. But a substantial portion of our revenue under the fixed-fee arrangement, we no longer recognize under 606. But you and I have talked about several times, Gary, this actually doesn't change our cash flow or the underlying health of our business. It's just going to be a little bit challenging I think on the short-term just from the reporting perspective.

Gary Mobley

Analyst · Benchmark. Your line is open

Got you. Okay. That is it for me. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Atif Malik with Citigroup. Your line is open.

Atif Malik

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Ron, can you just talk about the timing of the revenues for DDR5, is it still calendar year 2019 story or could it be pulled into this year? Then I have a follow-up for Rahul.

Ron Black

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

I think DDR5, 2019 is the early part and then ramps in 2020 and 2021. These are not short-term revenue productions.

Atif Malik

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Okay. And Rahul, what'd driving better than seasonal demand in March, and also if you can provide corresponding number for last year for memory buffer chip? You mentioned $35 million to $40 million in sales for this year.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Sure. So, your question is, what's driving better than seasonal in Q1, and I think it's generally a little bit across the board. Certainly you are seeing an opportunity for us on license side and you're certainly seeing an opportunity for us on the security side as well. Now if I look at quarter to quarter, I could see opportunities for us just really across the board in terms of what's there. So it really is that stable base of licensing plus a little bit of health in some of the other groups that we have. I think you could even see a little bit of growth in Q1 from buffer chip than what we had in Q4. What was the second part of your question, Atif?

Atif Malik

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

You provided a number of $35 million to $40 million for buffer chip this year. I just want to know what the number was for last year for buffer chips.

Rahul Mathur

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

For 2017, our buffer chip revenue was about $21 million. So we'd see about $35 million to $40 million. As Ron mentioned earlier, what gives us faith in growth here is really the design win momentum we had. We've had about double the number of design wins we had year-over-year and I think that corresponds well in terms of the overall revenue forecast.

Atif Malik

Analyst · Citigroup. Your line is open

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time there are no further questions. This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will turn the call back to Ron.

Ron Black

Analyst · ROTH Capital. Your line is open

Thank you everyone. As you can see, we continue to demonstrate our leadership and execution across our products to deliver profitable growth all across the Company. Thank you for your continued interest and time. Have a very nice evening.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.