Seth Ravin
Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group.
We'll answer to the database question. I think as you saw in our filing on the emergency stay, again, we noted that from what we've been able to ascertain in our analysis of the court orders, that she found that the Oracle licenses from years ago, and I think we're talking back to 2016, that there were some on our systems that she didn't believe that we had the right to have them on our systems. And we noted in our filing that the license, the OLSA as it's called, the Oracle license and service agreement, actually does not have a physical location limitation on it. And that was even part of the testimony of Oracle's Head of license, Ellison, when he took the stand and his depositions as well. From that point of view, we just think that with all due respect to the court, it was -- it seems like it's a legal error. But there was nothing about servicing the Oracle database platform, so that's why there's no injunction component she mentioned relative to Oracle database. But we do think that that's just an error. On the PeopleSoft side, as I noted, you can see in the filings and terms of the disclosures, we mentioned that we're limited but not prohibited from providing support. Remember, when we provide support, most of the support is our taking questions, giving verbal responses to issues. Some things involve coding. The general point of what was contained in this no use of automated tools decision, which again, we respectfully, very much respectfully disagree with the court on, it's really around the development of tax, legal and regulatory updates for the PeopleSoft product. And it was a process used only in the PeopleSoft product. From that point of view, the rest of the service that we provide to clients, the support in general, we're still able to provide. It's this whole issue over tax, legal and regs. There's environment issues, there's file issues. And so hopefully, we will see clarity from the court as we go through this process in the next 2 weeks. And I think as you've seen for 13 years, litigation has these rhythms. Findings come out, people analyze them, appeals are put together, there's further communication, there's further clarifications. That's the stage we're in now. Those first couple of weeks after we get them, I mean this was a 200-page document, digesting all that, trying to understand what the court is saying, what is the court telling us we need to do. Figuring all that out does take a few days. And now we're going to seek additional clarification and we're seeking relief from the court on things that we just don't think are appropriate or even that we think might be illegal for us to do. We'll hopefully work that out soon.