Adam Portnoy
Analyst · Morgan Stanley
Sure. So just to be clear, we talked about up to $100 million gross investment that will use our balance sheet. It's a little confusing when I say that, we're going to -- that's inclusive of leverage. We're going to use leverage on these loans. So let's just use the round number, $100 million of our gross investments, $70 million of which will be debt, $30 million of which will be equity in the loan or use of our cash. That is to seed the portfolio or a fund that is not the total fund itself. We expect that the fund itself from an equity perspective will be $200 million to $400 million in equity, use leverage on that, and you're talking about total investments of around, call it, $1 billion, give or take.
So that -- I just want to be clear, that's what we're trying to do with the balance sheet to see the portfolio, but the ultimate size in this first fundraise, I should point out, is about $1 billion. In terms of the pipeline, again, we feel very good about the pipeline. Yes, there is less transaction volume going on in the marketplace today. As a result of less transaction volume, there are less loans being originated. Fully half of what you used to see in originations of loans was new acquisition financing. Well, here, there's not a lot of new acquisition financing. There is some, but not much. It's a lot of refinancings that we're underwriting. But from a risk return perspective, we're making first lien secured mortgages against performing real estate that's going to go through a value-add or a light value-add repositioning.
And it doesn't really matter what type of real estate because we'll lend against almost anything and that type of investment introduces mid-teen returns. The pipeline is very strong. It's -- and we also think we differentiate ourselves in the marketplace. Look, there's a lot of folks that are talking about private credit and private credit real estate.
What really differentiates us in the marketplace is we are a real estate operating platform. So we have perhaps a more robust underwriting of the loan itself. But also we are able, given our scale to be much more middle market focused. So our average loan size could be $20 million, $30 million versus many of the larger players are focused on, let's say, $100 million larger loans. So when we play in what we call that middle market tier, there's a tremendous amount of transaction volume and not as many players. So we don't have as much competition and actually leads to a little bit higher returns for the investors. So yes, we feel good about the pipeline, we feel good about the investment opportunity we're presenting to potential LPs.