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RenaissanceRe Holdings Ltd. (RNR)

Q4 2020 Earnings Call· Wed, Jan 27, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. And welcome to RenaissanceRe's Q4 and Year-End Earnings Call. I'd now like to hand the conference over to Keith McCue, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Mr. McCue, please go ahead.

Keith McCue

Management

Good morning. Thank you for joining our fourth quarter and year-end financial results conference call. Yesterday after the market close, we issued our quarterly release. If you didn't receive a copy, please call me at 441-239-4830 and we'll make sure to provide you with one. There will be an audio replay of the call available from about 2:00 PM Eastern Time today through midnight on February 27. The replay can be accessed by dialing 855-859-2056 US toll-free or 1-404-537-3406 internationally. The passcode you will need for both numbers is 4277895. Today's call is also available through the Investor Information section of www.renre.com. And will be archived on RenaissanceRe's website through midnight on February 27, 2021. Before we begin, I'm obliged to caution that today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements and actual results may differ materially from those discussed. Additional information regarding the factors shaping these outcomes can be found in RenaissanceRe's SEC filings, to which we direct you. With us to discuss today's results are Kevin O'Donnell, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Bob Qutub, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I'd now like to turn the call over to Kevin. Kevin?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Thanks, Keith. Good morning, everyone and thank you for joining today's call. I wanted to begin today by giving you a quick summary of what we accomplished at January 1 and how 2021 is shaping up. First, I would like to thank everyone who supported last year's capital raise. I made several promises then, which I can now definitively say were capped. This January 1, was one of the most important renewals in our history and I'm very pleased with the performance and the outcome we achieved. At January 1, we saw opportunities for profitable growth in both of our segments and across our platforms, resulting in the full deployment into our underwriting portfolio of the $1.1 billion raised last June. We also raised and deployed additional capital in our joint venture business. As a result, in 2021, we expect to grow our net premiums written by approximately $1 billion and believe that we have materially increased the profitability of our underwriting book. Importantly, we expect to achieve these outcomes while keeping our tail risk consistent with last year's on a percentage of equity basis and due to the efficiency and diversity of our portfolio continuing to have ample dry powder to deploy into new opportunities. Looking back at 2020, at the beginning of the year, I told you that with the TMR integration behind us, we were a more resilient company and a broader deeper partner to our customers. In our business you learn to expect the unexpected, but I don't think any of us envisioned the year would unfold in quite the way it did or just how critical our resilience would prove to be. As the year progressed, we encountered a variety of challenges. I am proud of how our employees responded rapidly and effectively to each…

Bob Qutub

Management

Thanks, Kevin and good morning, everyone. As Kevin discussed, both our fourth quarter and year-end results were impacted by large weather events and COVID- 19. Despite this above normal activity, we reported positive net income for the quarter and positive net and operating income for the year. Today, I will divide my remarks between our fourth quarter and year-end 2020 results. I'll first cover our consolidated performance and then provide more detail on our three drivers of profit; underwriting income, fee income, investment income. Starting with our consolidated results and beginning with the fourth quarter where we reported an annualized return on average common equity of 10.9%, benefiting from mark-to-market gains in our strategic investment and fixed income portfolios. Annualized operating return on average common equity was negative 4.4%, primarily driven by weather-related losses and the COVID-19 pandemic. We grew our book value per common share by $3.33 or 2.5% and tangible book value per common share plus change in accumulated dividends by $3.84 or 3%. Net income from the quarter was $190 million or $3.74 per diluted common share. We reported an operating loss of $77 million or $1.59 per diluted common share. This excludes $268 million of net realized and unrealized gains on investments and $23 million of net foreign exchange gains. This includes an operating result with a net negative impact of $166 million from weather-related losses and $173 million from the COVID-19 pandemic. As a reminder, net negative impact is the impact on net income available to common shareholders after taking into account our best estimate of net incurred losses along with related adjustments for assumed and ceded reinstatement premiums, profit commissions and redeemable non-controlling interests. Now moving on to the full year 2020 where we grew our book value per share by 14.9% and tangible…

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Thanks, Bob. As usual, I will divide my comments between our Property and Casualty segments. Before I get into our segment specific information, I would like to provide my perspective on the ongoing impact of COVID-19 on our industry. As Bob explained, we undertook a very rigorous process in estimating our potential COVID-19 losses this quarter. In the first quarter of 2020, I first defined our three category approach to evaluating our COVID-19 exposure. As you recall, we initially recorded $104 million reserve, primarily for Category One. We also adjusted loss picks for Category Two exposures to reflect the likelihood of increased claim activity due to the pandemic and the resulting economic slowdowns. We have now received enough information to update our COVID-19 estimate and this resulted in $173 million net negative impact for the quarter, primarily related to property exposure in Category Three. Even as COVID-19 continues to spread, there has been some speculation that it will not prove as impactful to the insurance industry as originally foreseen. I do not believe this to be the case. In many instances, our industry is yet to recognize the losses that will inevitably arise from the pandemic, particularly with respect to business interruption. Likely this lack of recognition occurred because it made renewal smoother at January 1. I believe that we still have a long way to go before the true scale of COVID-19 industry losses are fully apparent. In the US, the risk of a widespread court leakage where courts imply coverage when it is not expressly provided currently appears low, but is something we continue to monitor. While individual court rulings have been relatively favorable to the insurance industry, cases will take years to work through the system and some recent decisions have been adverse. In the UK, Europe…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo, your line is open.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Thanks, good morning. I was hoping to spend a little bit more time on the book you guys put together at 1/1. Kevin, I think you alluded to $500 million of gross premium growth within casualty and specialty that you expect this year. I don't believe you gave top line growth targets for cat or property although, you did give the premiums written target. I'm just trying to get a sense of the $1 billion of capital, we could obviously make assumptions on, capital to do to support that $500 million of growth, but in casualty specialty, can you give us a sense of how much of that went to the different businesses? It sounds like from that $500 million a good portion given the opportunity you saw within allocated to casualty specialty.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes. So, yes, this was -- I think a very successful renewal for us on both -- in both segments. When we look at the growth that we've achieved, within casualty we grew on an expected basis because much of this will come in over the course of the year because it's on a proportional basis of just under $700 million. And then within the Property segment, the vast majority of our growth, so we estimate that will grow that book at about $500 million and about $450-ish million and again, a lot of that is proportional, so will come in over the course of the year, is coming from our other property portfolio. And just to remember, the other property portfolio is consuming more capital by design and in particular with regard to the $1.1 billion raised because we were targeting US more significantly exposed cat business where rate enhancement has been best.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. And then a couple times throughout your remarks you mentioned higher expected profits. Obviously, if you look at more recent years new pockets rates have been offset by pretty high level of cat losses, right and obviously also COVID losses. So, when you say higher expected profit, can you give us like a barometer to compare that to, so we can get a sense of the profitability you are expecting in 2021?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes. As you know, we don't give guidance, but what -- and as Bob's comments I think were designed to highlight. Themes we talked about when we raised the capital was that we expected to see more margin in our underwriting portfolio. We expected the increase in pricing to be broadly across lines and we anticipated that it would last more than a single renewal cycle. We saw the increased margin, we did observe that it was broadly across both Property and Casualty segments and our conviction that the market will continue to change through 2021 persists. So, when I reflect on 2020, my comments suggest that that was a higher than average cat year. So, looking at the drivers of our profitability and hoping for a more average cat year than what we experienced in 2020, one should anticipate significantly enhanced margins, but again, it's not something that we provide guidance on.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks, Kevin.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Sure. One final comment I'll make too is that just to highlight that we also held our risk relatively flat from a percent of equity perspective. So, one way to enhance returns is to go risk on. We were relatively risk-neutral, but on a much larger portfolio in 2021 compared to 2020. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Michael Phillips with Morgan Stanley, your line is open.

Michael Phillips

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning. Kevin, appreciate your comments that you made on COVID in industry potential there. I guess I was hoping to dive a little bit deeper there. You said there were many companies that have yet to recognize losses mainly for business interruption, yet US courts I think you said leakage there appears pretty low, which I hope you're right there and I agree. I guess, does that mean your concern is mainly for outside US for business interruption or just can you comment more on where the major concerns you see if it is just BR, what else -- what else you're concerned about?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

So, as I mentioned COVID, we all know COVID is ongoing. It's a very, very complex problem. And I think there is going to be significant uncertainty. So, what we're trying to provide is the best transparency on that uncertainty that we can. We think the way to frame it is through the Category One, Two and Three. Much of the reserve that we added this in the fourth quarter related to Category Three and within Category Three, we talked about originally when we defined the book that we have, we believe we're less exposed relative to others in Category Three for business interruption, specifically pointing to about half of our property cat book protects personal lines where we believe exposure is lower. Internationally, we have seen more affirmative cover sold for business interruption related to communicable disease and much of the reserve that we put up in the quarter, although, it's in IBNR would be in contemplation of things that we learned related to some of the international book that was renewing. The US still remains uncertain. I think we'll have a lot of ups and downs with court decisions as we go through this, but we still remain relatively optimistic about the courts being rationale about their interpretation there.

Michael Phillips

Analyst

Okay, thanks. I guess sticking with that for a second, what extent do you think if this does become pretty significant as time develops here? To what extent would COVID then continue the duration of the hard commercial lines market and the hardening/trimming reinsurance market. How does COVID affect the duration of that?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

We believe it's playing a significant role. The -- as I mentioned, I think demand might have been suppressed at 1/1 just because of the strong financial performance of companies and their willingness to retain more risk. As the economic hardships related to the shutdowns persist, we're hopeful that companies will choose to retain less volatility and reinsurance demand will grow. So, we remain optimistic. We've kept dry powder to continue to provide solutions to our customers, hoping that 2021 continues to see increased concern with some of our customers and hopefully, we can provide solutions [indiscernible].

Michael Phillips

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Kevin. Appreciate it.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Sure, thanks.

Operator

Operator

Meyer Shields with KBW, your line is open.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

Thanks. I wanted to take a step back and get your updated thoughts if I can on how the Florida marketplace ultimately plays itself out. And I'm thinking here the combination of maybe more capital being available than originally expected, but it really seems like that marketplace is struggling on a primary reinsurance volume basis.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

So first, I agree that the market is struggling and I think it's struggling on an insurance basis. Reinsurance is playing a role due to the rate change, but there is probably pretty fundamental issues that need to be addressed in that market. I think we will engage with our Florida customers as we always do through the first half of the year. We have very strong relationships in Florida. So, I anticipate that we will have very strong opportunities in the Florida market. I'm not too concerned about the new capital coming in at this point, just due to -- for us, due to the strength of the relationships that we have there and the increased need that they have for more reinsurance. So, early to tell, and a lot can change between now and a June renewal in Florida. We've seen -- we're always cautious on this call to think about what could happen then. But right now, we're having -- we're having discussions with some Florida accounts and I agree with you that the market is struggling that usually creates opportunities for reinsurers.

Meyer Shields

Analyst

Okay, fantastic. That's all I had. Thank you so much.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Yaron Kinar with Goldman Sachs, your line is open.

Yaron Kinar

Analyst

Good morning. My first question goes to the market opportunity. I think when you raised the capital last year, you were talking about the potential of a multi-year opportunity. Do you think that's still the case and if so, I guess, why would we see the $4 billion of capital raise deployed so early in this opportunities?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

One, we -- as I mentioned, we still have dry powder to deploy further through the course of 2021. So, by no means having been successful in deploying the capital that we raised, are we in a position where we don't have capital to put to further opportunities. Secondly, the way we've written the portfolio in casualty and specialty, I'll start with is mostly proportional. So, we will have the run rate of the rate increase coming through the portfolio over the 18 -- next 18 months or so and then much of the other property portfolio is proportional in nature. So, we should be participating on the increased primary rates that are being seen broadly in the market, which we believe have legs and should persist. So, I look forward into the market. We've got plenty of dry powder to take on the next opportunity and we are pretty tightly coupled with the primary companies enjoying a lot of the rate enhancement that they're getting on their books of business.

Yaron Kinar

Analyst

Got it. And then, my second question just goes back to the kind of, that Category Three of known unknowns in COVID. So, if I understood correctly, really what's happening is kind of, you are looking closer under the hood and seeing if there is more affirmative coverage in some of the underlying risk. Is that -- is that the correct interpretation, and if so, I guess, why is this coming out now? Is this just a function of consider the renewal process into 1/1? Why would you have not known about it a quarter ago or three quarters ago when kind of, COVID first emerged as a pandemic issue?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

So, one, we're not surprised that this exposure existed. What became more apparent through the discussions we had at 1/1 is became -- is that we believe it became more estimatable. So, when we looked at the portfolio and have the discussions at the renewal, we were able to better understand how much exposure these companies thought they had. With that, we have very few specific claim notifications, most of this is based on our own work, as Bob mentioned, for clients from the bottom up and other clients from the top down but it is in IBNR. And we'll have to allocate it as the specific reserves from companies becomes more clear. But we think it's a fulsome and comprehensive approach to think about what the exposure could be.

Yaron Kinar

Analyst

Understood. Thank you.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Brian Meredith with UBS, your line is open.

Brian Meredith

Analyst

Yes, thanks. A couple ones here for Kevin. First one, I am just curious on the profitability and improved profitability, I was thinking maybe another way question that is, is what is the return on kind of allocated capital or equity look like on this year's portfolio versus last year's portfolio? Is it 100 basis points better roughly, 200 basis points?

Bob Qutub

Management

Let me take that one. I'll start. I mean I can't really provide any good guidance on the ROE or the returns, but let me tell you, kind of how I think about it and the way we look at this. Obviously, the principal driver is going to be the returns from our underwriting book business and as we pointed out, we're very pleased with the capital we deployed in January and expectations that we look forward to is that develops on the profitability that we've been talking about. And you will see the economics over time as it realized and we also benefit from the risk sharing that we have with our partner capital as well that we've been fairly successful at. The other driver of our returns will come from our investment portfolio. The investment leverage is about nearly 2 times and we're pretty well positioned in this environment. And the other thing we talk about and I put in my comments is the underlying all of this is our platform. We've consistently demonstrated strong operating leverage out there over time. So, kind of, in short, we've got a strong track record of deploying the capital, great client relationships and that's going to help us leverage the integrated systems for what's ahead.

Brian Meredith

Analyst

Great, thanks. And then my second question relates to third-party capital. Kevin, just curious, what is the kind of demand right now from investors for third-party capital? I was a little surprised to see that you actually took more DaVinci exposure on to your balance sheet through a secondary transaction given that I thought pricing was actually pretty good.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes. Actually, we -- the number we put out is actually the net number we deployed. We actually raised more than that. As I said, we returned a little bit of capital, which is -- which is a common practice for us for Upsilon. We had more than enough interest from third-party capital to support the DaVinci raise. We actually targeted an increase. Over the last several years, we reduced our participation in DaVinci, partially because we had such high-quality investors looking for some participated in the vehicle that we allow them to purchase some of our share. We had the opportunity to increase a little bit at 1/1. It was a strategic target for us to increase our participation there; so nothing to do with subdued demand for our vehicles. It was really more about us wanting to have a little bit more flexibility with our share going forward.

Brian Meredith

Analyst

Got you. And then just lastly, just curious, the net premium written increase that you're kind of expecting for the year, the $1 billion, how much of that is related to your third-party capital vehicles? Because it still looked a little different.

Bob Qutub

Management

It will follow -- it will show up too. You'll see it through the non-redeemable, but we don't really carve out. I'd say on the property cat side probably, not a lot. When you think about it from DaVinci, probably some from Vermeer, it will come through the property side of the business and where Kevin said property was up by about just under $0.5 billion, with most of it through the other property of E&S, so you won't see a lot of that coming through the third-party.

Brian Meredith

Analyst

Okay, makes sense. Thank you so much.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Josh Shanker with Bank of America, your line is open.

Josh Shanker

Analyst

Yes, thank you for taking my question. Can you talk about all the process during the renewals of talking to your customers about COVID? In assessing what the right rate to charge your customers, you kind have to know what their expectation with their COVID losses are. But if everything is still in the unknowns, how can you extend coverage to be comfortable with your clients if they don't have a good sense of their own exposures?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes, it's a delicate balance to think about how to have those conversations and it depends on kind of what they know as well. The real issue is the renewals that we had, we excluded COVID and addressed communicable disease specifically. So, in some ways the exposure is the exposure and it will be sorted out over time. But going forward, the grant of coverage if any was ever provided is specifically and more precisely excluded in the contracts that we renewed. Does that answer your question, I'm not sure...

Josh Shanker

Analyst

I guess I think on the charge -- the charge you took, you somewhat knew about the exposures that they were going to report and that helped give you information I would think, or maybe they did -- maybe they don't know and everything is still in guesswork, I don't know. Could you have a...

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

It is a little of both. Again, as I said, there is not a lot of formal claim notifications that we had, but what we were trying to do is parameterize what is the extent of the exposure that they believe that they have to the policies that they sold. And with that we went through a couple of different analysis, independent of each other to try to assess a way for us to estimate the exposure that we -- that potentially could come to us through what we learned over the renewal. So, we had more of an actuarial approach, we had an underwriting approach and then we worked with our external advisors to reality check it. So, I think we had a strong and robust process to come up with the estimate, but the estimate is not as clean as what you would traditionally have from an observable physical damage loss related to a hurricane or even in earthquake, I would say.

Josh Shanker

Analyst

Thank you. And one quickie, or maybe it is not quickie. How do you balance the responsibility to get best performance for your shareholders versus best performance for your venture partners? As you raise more capital into the New Year, does that come -- does everyone make money together or do some of the capital raise come at the expense of different constituents?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

That's a great question and I think it's one of the hardest things to manage for a company like us where we have owned balance sheet and partner capital. So, each vehicle is slightly different where something like premier and top layer. There isn't a significant appetite overlap with our owned balance sheets. We think of DaVinci more as a quota share and we do think of DaVinci having a degree of incumbency on the deals that they had. So, as we were talking to DaVinci shareholders through the capital raise that we did publicly, we were saying that is our expectation we will have opportunities to grow DaVinci in parallel with RenRe. I see long-term our shareholders benefiting from the ability for us to manage both sets of capital effectively and fairly. So, I don't think of it as a trade-off as giving risk to one or the other. I see it as the pursuit of providing the best solutions to our clients with the most efficient capital and that should recognize the best return for each of our stakeholders, most importantly, our shareholders.

Josh Shanker

Analyst

Thank you very much for the clarity.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Sure.

Operator

Operator

Ryan Tunis with Autonomous Research, your line is open.

Ryan Tunis

Analyst

Thanks. A couple, the first is, understand the growth in casualty specialty. The one thing I guess I'd point out is that historically has been a line you booked really conservatively like around 100% underlying combined and I know you don't want to give guidance but I mean like directionally, should we think that we're at least in a point now where you think that that is earning an accident year underwriting margin as we approach 2021 what you're deploying?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes. Let me make a couple comments there. What we've talked about before is thinking about casualty and specialty over a longer term period, so say 10 years and making sure that over that period of time we get -- we achieve the return that we need for that business. Clearly, with what's going on in that market, we're moving that block of rolling 10-year average to a much better return. Historic -- well, traditional actuarial methodologies the recognition of that will lag. And what I can say is we -- which would be a normal actuarial view is to recognize bad news faster than good news. There is usually a gap between what your pricing actuaries are seeing in an improving market to what your reserving actuaries will recognize. That gap is extended a bit right now and we're hopeful that over time, our pricing actuaries will be more accurate than our reserving actuaries. But it will take a little bit of time for those to reconcile.

Ryan Tunis

Analyst

Got it. And I just -- Kevin, just taking a step back, I mean, it feels like a little bit of a, I don't know if it's a strategic pivot or not, but what's six, seven years ago, it's just property cat, now, these other businesses seem to be the most important. I'm just curious, how you are thinking about your organic capabilities? Is there anywhere -- are you still thinking you purely want to be a reinsurer? Are there acquisitions or anything like that do you think could bolster the platform now based on sort of the direction you are headed?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

So, your comment, strategically, we have made an effort to change the profile of the company. As Bob talked about, we've increased operating leverage, we've increased capital leverage and we've diversified the sources of income that we have. I have in my mind not de-emphasized anything that we do, but simply added emphasis to doing more things well and doing more things at the same level that our cat reputation holds. So, when I look at the portfolio that we have and I look at the quality of the underwriters and the books that we built, I couldn't be happier with the portfolio. And for sure, it's been a strategic change to who we are and what we're doing. It's been driven by what our customers want. Going back five, six, seven years ago, our customers were saying they really enjoyed trading with us from a property cat perspective, but they want to do more with quality companies. So, we worked hard to build the capabilities and the platforms to be able to best meet their risk needs. I hope more of its to come in the future. You mentioned acquisitions, from that perspective, again, we feel great about who we are and what we're doing and nothing has changed. We've historically said and still believe that we see something that furthers our strategy and is economically viable, we'll take a look at it, but again, we feel great about who we are and what we're doing.

Ryan Tunis

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Phil Stefano with Deutsche Bank, your line is open.

Phil Stefano

Analyst

Yes, thanks. And congrats on the quarter. Most have been asked and answered, just I think you had mentioned that there was an improvement in terms of conditions, which I feel like is a little different than I've heard others start to talk about. Just given the proportional nature of the businesses being added this year, can you talk about the terms and conditions that approved? In my mind the terms and conditions are generally stickier than price increases. Maybe you can help us just kind of formulate the additional returns that are coming through from this improvement.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes. I'd say the two -- the two most common discussions that we had with renewal, particularly in the property cat is adding a cyber-exclusion and communicable disease exclusions. In some instances, it was understanding the portfolio that they have is a personal lines portfolio in others, but I would say that that's where the improvement, most specifically came from.

Phil Stefano

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo, your line is open.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Thanks. Sorry, I have a few quick follow-ups. The first, Kevin, when you responded to my question earlier and you said $700 million of growth in casualty and $450 million in other property premium. Is that a gross or net figure?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

That's net.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

That's net, okay. And then my second question is, so, when you said [indiscernible] retained, I think a few percentage points more right at 1/1. I'm assuming that that's a comment pertaining to all three businesses, casualty, property -- property cat and other property?

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

I'm sorry, Elyse, I didn't hear. Bob, did you hear the question?

Bob Qutub

Management

I think Elyse, you're asking referring to Kevin's comment about ceding a little bit less, so opening up the exposure. Generally speaking, that's more on the property side that we have.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

But including cat and other property.

Bob Qutub

Management

Yes, property cat.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Okay. And then, my last question. So, the Q4 decline in casualty write specialty because some TMR non-renewals. Are we mostly done with the non-renewals of that book? I'm assuming that's all embedded within the 2021 outlook for casualty?

Bob Qutub

Management

That's pretty much it, Elyse. I mean there was a few multi-years but they are insignificant. So, that's the bulk of it, and again that goes back to relative Q4 '19 versus Q4 '20, so that's pretty much behind us.

Elyse Greenspan

Analyst

Okay. Thanks for taking the follow-up.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Yes, our pleasure. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Kevin for closing comments.

Kevin O'Donnell

Management

Thanks everybody for your participation on the call. As I stated, I think this was one of the most important renewals for Renaissance. I am delighted with the outcome that we achieved and I look forward to opportunities in 2021. Thank you for joining today's call, and we'll speak to you soon.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.