Good morning. My name is Angela, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the RenaissanceRe Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Keith McCue, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Angela. Good morning, and welcome to RenaissanceRe's Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Kevin O'Donnell, President and Chief Executive Officer; Bob Qutub, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; and David Marra, Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer. First, some housekeeping matters. Our discussion today will include forward-looking statements, including new and updated expectations for our business and results of operations. It's important to note that actual results may differ materially from the expectations shared today. Additional information regarding the factors shaping these outcomes can be found in our SEC filings and in our earnings release. During today's call, we will also present non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to GAAP metrics and other information concerning non-GAAP measures may be found in our earnings release and financial supplement, which are available on our website at renre.com. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Kevin. Kevin?

Thanks, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. As you'd expect, I review numerous reports detailing our risk, return, liquidity, capital utilization and numerable other metrics. I've been doing this at RenRe for almost 30 years. In all these years, I have never been more pleased as I am today when I look at these reports and evaluate the state of our business. At the most fundamental level, our objective is to grow tangible book value per share over the long term. This quarter is an excellent example of our ability to do just that. Even with the impact of the California wildfires last quarter and substantial share repurchases, we have grown tangible book value per share by 10% year-to-date and over 20% over the past 12 months. We also delivered a 24% operating return on equity this quarter. These financial results demonstrate the strength of our income diversification and ability to absorb volatility. They also demonstrate that we are well compensated for the risk we choose to take. This manifests through a combination of underwriting income, investment income and fee income. Each of these drivers of profit are performing well and are positioned for long-term success. Starting with underwriting. Over the last several years, we have grown and diversified our underwriting portfolio substantially. This has benefited our business in numerous ways. As one of the largest P&C reinsurers in the world, we have built a company designed to solve any risk problem in any class of business for any client. We augment this powerful platform with people and technology that are industry-leading and client-focused. This incentivizes customers to come to us first because we can design better solutions for their biggest problems and back it with significant capacity. This ability to do these things enables…

Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. We delivered outstanding results this quarter with annualized return on equity of 34% and operating return on equity of 24% Operating income per share was $12.29, our second best result ever exceeded only by this quarter last year. Performance was strong across each of our 3 drivers of profit, with underwriting income of $602 million, up 26% from last year, fees of $95 million, which fully recovered from losses last quarter and retained net investment income of $286 million, which remains a consistent and significant contributor to our bottom line. We are proud of our leading returns and have strong conviction in our ability to continue delivering at this level going forward. There are 4 numbers that help illustrate this. First, 15 points, which is the aggregate contribution from net investment income and fees to our overall return on average common equity. We expect both of these drivers to remain stable over time, and therefore, we begin each quarter with a consistently strong earnings base. Second, $600 million, which was our underwriting profit this quarter. Underwriting leadership is the strategic core of our business, and it typically brings significant upside to the 15 points of the stable base I just described. Third, $1.5 billion, the value of shares we have repurchased since we began buying back in April of 2024. This equates to 6 million shares or about 70% of what we issued in connection with the Validus acquisition. This demonstrates the robust efficiency of our platform, the strength of our earnings and most importantly, our conviction in the value of our stock and earnings sustainability going forward. And finally, 20%, this is the amount we have grown our primary metric, tangible book value per share plus change in accumulated dividends over the last…

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. Our second quarter underwriting performance was excellent. We reported an adjusted combined ratio of 73% and significantly grew our U.S. property catastrophe portfolio at the midyear renewal, outperforming the market with risk-adjusted rates in our book down low single digits. Our strong results this quarter are directly connected to our unique competitive advantages, including our integrated operating model, deep risk expertise and customer-centric approach. Our REMS underwriting system enables us to quickly deliver lead quotes and capacity in an integrated way across geographies and classes of business. This allows us to transact seamlessly with our clients across multiple lines. In fact, the majority of our premium comes from clients who buy products across Property, Casualty and Specialty. Our approach is unique and differentiated and clients reward us with strong signings and preferential terms. This benefits RenaissanceRe shareholders through an attractive combination of underwriting, fee and investment income, as Kevin and Bob have just discussed. With respect to underwriting income, our margins across the portfolio remain very attractive. Since the reinsurance step change in rates and terms and conditions in 2023, we have generated $3 billion in underwriting profit and industry-leading combined ratios. During this time period, we have reported consistent favorable development, averaging 7 points. This has contributed to our underwriting profitability and is due to the strength of our previous underwriting decisions and our robust reserving process, both of which are key strengths of our business. We manage risk from the time of binding a treaty to the time claims settle, ultimately supporting strong financial results across our underwriting portfolio. We believe that risk is appropriately distributed across the insurance value chain with reinsurers largely providing balance sheet protection and being paid adequately for doing so. This is why we find the current…

Thanks, David. Our business is exceptionally healthy. All 3 drivers of profit outperformed expectations, and the current environment remains favorable. We had a strong renewal and constructed our largest and one of our most profitable net retained property cat portfolios. Our Capital Partners business has recovered to its full fee-generating potential and continues to contribute substantial low volatility earnings to our bottom line. Finally, the interest rate environment remains attractive, and we took advantage of market weakness to increase our allocation to equities and high yield, which should help increase returns. And with that, I'll open it up for questions.

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Elyse Greenspan with Wells Fargo.

My first question is on the reserve releases in the quarter. I think it was around $132 million. I'm focusing on the property cat piece. And I know you guys called out from '21, '22 and '23. I'm just curious, was one of those years like the bigger driver of the releases? And I guess the second part of that question is, I'm just curious if the releases just stem from Milton or Florida events that would just be reflective of just the reforms working in the state.

Elyse, thanks. This is Bob. It comes from across all the accident periods going all the way back to 2017. And we share some of those losses with our joint ventures, about half of that sticks to us.

Okay. And then I guess just it seems like the renewals at the midyear on the property cat side played out well relative to your expectations. I guess, Kevin, as you think forward, I guess, obviously, a lot depends on what happens with this hurricane season. But how are you thinking about things going into 2026, both January 1 and then even with the Florida renewals heading into the midyears next year?

Yes. Great. Thanks. Yes, you're right. This year has gone exceptionally well. And I think it's important to kind of remind ourselves as to where we are as we're thinking about planning for 2026. We've grown our portfolios where we've chosen to grow them. We've had good opportunities, and we continue to execute our strategy well. So as I look at where we are heading into 2026, really at this point, as I mentioned in my comments, not much business comes up between now and year-end. So one of the bigger variables will be what happens in wind season. But if you break wind season down, all wind season does is if it's an inactive year, it gives buyers pricing power. And if it's an active year, it gives reinsurers pricing power. What we've talked about before is since 2023, we think the market has reset and will trade around this new level. And that is really what we've seen. And we have proven that we can execute to produce better than market returns in that environment. So regardless of what happens between now and year-end, really, the way we're looking at it is we'll continue to execute our strategy. We believe we can continue to preserve our margin. We have no change in our ability to find opportunity to deploy capital. We have a strong capital and liquidity position. So we believe we can continue to manage capital through share repurchases. So as we're really beginning to shift our focus from writing our book for 2025 to planning for 2026, nothing has changed with our strategy. Between now and year-end, we'll have great conversations, have price discovery. We'll sharpen our tools and tactics. But I think at the end of the day, '26 is going to look a lot like '25 for us.

We'll take our next question from Josh Shanker with Bank of America.

I just want to talk about management fees a little bit. I think at the last quarter call, you were pretty sure that management fees would be a little weaker and they bounced back real fast. What's changed in the past few months? And also, how does the AlphaCat, OmegaCat book and that winding down play into the numbers here?

Yes. I'll just make a couple of comments, and I'll turn it over to Bob. No, you're absolutely right. I think we had a strong second quarter. It tends to be a light cat quarter that is not necessarily what's budgeted. So we had greater earnings or greater catch-up on our fees because of that. And then obviously, favorable development benefited our third-party capital vehicles as well. So that pushed us to recover some of the deferred fees more quickly. AlphaCat, OmegaCat were not a big contributor, but I'll turn it over to Bob for more specifics.

That said, I mean, as my prepared comments, Josh, the management fee, we expected the deferral to be a little bit longer. We got it all back, which is why the $56 million, but we're guiding you back to $50 million for the third quarter in my prepared comments for the management fee. And as Kevin pointed out, the favorable development in the property cat side accelerated the ability to earn the performance fees, but we're still guiding it to $30 million for the next quarter. So $80 million all in for Q3. And that's kind of what I referred to as the more stable area, kind of sort of neutral.

So when I'm looking at the DaVinci income statement, it looks like premium growth is pretty healthy at DaVinci. I guess where I'm going -- have you been able to convince AlphaCat investors to redeploy into your proprietary vehicles? Or why is there a difference between what we see at the firm-wide level in property and what we see at DaVinci?

Yes. So AlphaCat is not something -- is a vehicle that we purchased with Validus and we're managing down. We have broad and strong investor interest in DaVinci. So there's -- the migration of investors is not part of the story. It's really the ability for us to execute into the market and continue to grow both RenRe and DaVinci.

And just bear with me. The fact that DaVinci, was there more opportunity to deploy capital into DaVinci? Or is there more capital in DaVinci so the risk-adjusted returns are the same? I'm looking at the strong growth there, it says to me that you leaned into DaVinci in the quarter or maybe just had more capital.

This is Bob, Josh. The way I look at it is that all of our property cat is going to our own account and DaVinci. We're not cultivating in the AlphaCat space. That's kind of a multi-risk strategy that doesn't fit our purpose-built balance sheet.

Yes. Just to remind everyone, DaVinci is not exactly this, but it behaves a bit like a quota share of RenRe Limited. There's no risk in DaVinci that's not in RenRe Limited. One of the benefits was some of the favorable development. There was a little bit less ceded in DaVinci than in RenRe Limited. But I would think of there's no shift in earnings and no shift in strategy between RenRe and DaVinci going forward. But in any given quarter, there'll be a little bit of noise.

We'll take our next question from Jimmy Bhullar with JPMorgan.

I had a couple of questions. First, just on pricing. Obviously, prices have been coming down the last couple of years, but returns are still very attractive and for you guys and for your peers as well. So what gives you the confidence that rates won't continue to decline and we're not facing a soft reinsurance market?

Yes. Kind of back to the comments we've made on previous calls and a little bit earlier is you're absolutely right. There are price changes, but I think the real focus should be rate adequacy. Rates went up 50% in 2023. And over the last 2 quarters, we're talking about rate changes in the 10-ish percentage change, obviously, less for us because of our portfolio construction and access to business. So we believe that the market will continue to trade both on terms and conditions and rates at the levels that were reset in 2023. As with any financial market, there'll be times where buyers have a bit more to push on price and there's times where sellers have a bit more to push on price. But we don't see a downward trend to rate inadequacy in the near term. We continue to believe that rates will trade at highly adequate levels, whether they're up or down a little bit is something the market will decide as we move forward.

And then on buybacks, it seems like you've been more active the last few quarters than you had in the past. I think the last 3 quarters combined, you've taken out almost 10% of your shares. So assuming a similar level of profitability, should we assume that buybacks continue at this pace? Or is the current level inflated either to minimize the Validus dilution or like some other factors?

I think thanks for the question. You're taking us back to fourth quarter. We consolidated some of the balance sheets, and we freed up an enormous amount of trapped capital. That would account for a lot of the accelerated share repurchases that we did in Q4, Q1. We saw great opportunities this quarter here, this past quarter in Q2 that carry over into 3. So we've gotten $800 million. I mean, mindful of the fact we're going into the wind season, which may provide opportunities in and of itself. We are looking to deploy capital and return capital at attractive prices if it presents itself.

We'll take our next question from Alex Scott with Barclays.

First one I had is on -- just following up on some of the prepared remarks around added outward reinsurance that you purchased. And I think there was a cap on aggregate that was mentioned as well. And just wanted to see if you'd provide a little more detail around that and help us just think through some of those things and accounting for what may or may not come from hurricane season.

Alex, this is David. I'll provide some additional comments. So as we construct our inwards portfolio, we have a lot of options with how we shape that portfolio with ceded reinsurance. We buy reinsurance, we purchase cat bonds. We also have the joint venture vehicles that share some of the risk with us. One thing that we did specifically from wind season last year, wind season this year was we continue to buy. We bought additional ceded. The ceded is getting more efficient. And specifically, there was some ceded that was -- aside from our normal per occurrence ceded, we bought -- purchased a cat bond, which was in aggregate in nature. We also have a cat bond, which is occurrence in nature. We have also some ceded reinsurance, which is specifically second event to protect against accumulation of large events. It's all to -- in order to keep our net portfolio optimized and the highest ROE we can and protecting against scenarios where earnings could be impacted.

Got it. Okay. That's helpful. And then I just wanted to ask about the casualty business. You guys pulled back a little more than I would have guessed in some of the general liability. And is that something that changes your view at all in terms of reserve adequacy? Is that something you've already done a deeper review on and this is sort of the action on the other side of it? Or is there new information that you're still sort of implementing in the balance sheet?

Yes. I'll start, and I'll turn it over to Dave. Nothing's changed about reserves or anything about this. This is more about how we want to structure the portfolio. As David mentioned, '25 from a casualty perspective, by every measure is a better year than '24. But we want to see more persistence in that improvement before we begin to reflect that in our results just to make sure that we are fully benefiting from the better claims management and the elevated rate compared to the trend. So when I think about it, this is much more about the written portfolio and how it fits into the -- and marginally benefits the overall portfolio that we're writing than a reflection on the health of the legacy portfolio that was written. I don't know if you'd add something.

Yes. I can address some of the portfolio movements that we've made. With the Casualty and Specialty segment, we're always looking to how to optimize the portfolio. If you go back several years, we were overweight credit, and we grew general liability and professional liability into 2021 when rates were increasing. And now we have a more emphasis on the specialty book following the Validus acquisition. The reductions in GL was really just part of that normal process. And we've been talking about for about the last year, and that's enough for all of the renewals to be touched once. There's not one common renewal date. So that's what you're seeing there.

We'll take our next question from Wes Carmichael with Autonomous Research.

Kevin, in your prepared remarks, I think you talked about Florida renewals and getting rates and terms above the market. I know you don't typically disclose P&Ls, but is there any color qualitatively you can share with us on how your Florida cat exposure has changed since renewals?

Yes. I think it's a combination of both something that I said and Dave said is we did grow into the Florida renewal this year. We did it significantly above market terms. So we feel really good about the economics. If you break it down, I think it puts us from a market share perspective for Southeast Wind about where we were on a percentage of equity before -- to the levels we were prior to the acquisition of Validus. So last year, a lot of our growth into Florida came not from expanding lines that we were on, but making sure we executed the Validus lines. This year, we were able to bring an underweight market share for Southeast Wind back up to our market share on a relative basis at the same percent of equity that we had prior to Validus.

Got you. That's helpful. And maybe as a follow-up, it's probably a little bit of a tough one to quantify, but a question we get often from investors. And you mentioned the Prop cat book is the largest it's been. But is there any level of industry loss this year in wind season that you think might recatalyze pricing in the Prop cat market for January?

I think it's -- well, let's trace to where we are. So this year is already setting up from an aggregate basis to be a very substantial cat year. I think a lot of it happens -- a lot of the impact from an event really is specific to where the event hit. It will have a very different effect on nationwide accounts if it hits in Florida than if it hits in the Northeast. So I think larger events are going to have bigger impacts. In general, the reinsurance market is attaching higher. So I would say it also has to be probably a larger event than what we would have had prior to 2023, but it's pretty hard to put a fine point on it. If you look back at Helen or Milton, they had relatively -- the impact wasn't as profound as it would have been prior to 2023, so something above that level perhaps.

We'll take our next question from Mike Zaremski with BMO.

Question on the -- I think you did a good job of kind of giving us data points on why your midyear portfolio is constructed better than the market average. Do you feel -- and you said it was due to scale and you kind of talked about 80% of the premium you wrote at private market terms above market rates. So I'm just kind of curious, is that durable? I don't know if there's any -- like is this -- is there any historical precedents for this wide of a delta? I'd have to go back and kind of check all your midyear renewals versus the market. I haven't done that off the fly. But kind of curious if this new scale, you think has some duration in terms of your pricing versus the marketplace.

Yes. I would say, I'm enormously proud of the team's execution. 80% is a great number to achieve with private terms. We always have a high percentage of private terms within our portfolio. I think there's 2 things that we tried to highlight. One is this was exceptionally good and great execution. And secondly, because we're so broadly integrated with the largest buyers, our conversations begin earlier and more broadly. And the size of our capacity and the expertise we bring allows us to have an increasing percentage of private terms in different areas of our business. So I would say it's not something that's new. I would say 80% is on the high end of our execution. I'm very proud of that, but hard to quantify more specifically, Dave?

Yes. I would say it was a great renewal for us and a couple of reasons in my mind on that is really just our risk selection capabilities and our access to business. And those 2 things, I believe, are sustainable. The market was not uniform. It was an underwriter's market. You had to pick and choose risks. Our underwriters know that business better than anyone, and we think we have the best access there. So that was a differentiator, not just in Florida, which allowed us to get the 80% of the book on private terms and deliver flat rates. but also in understanding and being able to execute on the other key areas there. We talked about California. The key there was understanding the wildfire peril and being able to figure out how to execute into a post-loss market quicker than anyone else. And then the loss impacted nationwide, that was really about risk selection and then our ability to get those lines. So the team really did that. That's what they do best. They showed leadership and delivered a great portfolio.

Got it. And my follow-up is on Florida tort reform. I think, Kevin, you brought it up in your prepared remarks that it's beneficial. Just curious, you don't have to -- if you have a proprietary quantification of how beneficial is, maybe that's not something you want to share. But curious, are the reforms meaningful in terms of the impact RenRe feels will have on the loss ratio ultimately? And if so, are those positive impacts already being competed away? Are they fully understood by the marketplace? Or is that something that still needs more time to play out?

Yes. So it's a more meaningful impact for the domestic carriers or for any carrier in Florida because it affects all their claims. For us, we're excess of loss on the cat side predominantly. We're still an owner of Tower Hill, and we've seen the benefit there. Your question about is it some of it being competed away. We have seen some rate reductions in Florida, which I think are appropriate. And we're still seeing strong profitability and strong health in the primary market there. So from our standpoint, it's something that we reflect in our underwriting, but it's a significantly lower effect than the benefit that the insurers are receiving within the market. But again, there is price competition being introduced to manage that and put some of the benefit back to policyholders. Dave?

Yes. I would just add to that, that the dynamic where there's -- the public markets are depopulating and private markets are more confident taking on risk, that definitely has something to do with the tort reform and the ability for the insurers to navigate that. And that benefits us as well because when the private markets grow their exposure, they have more reinsurance to buy and the growing demand was a factor that helped us in opportunities in Q2.

We'll take our next question from Meyer Shields with KBW.

Coming to Florida, I'm trying to understand, you talked about growth at flat rates. And I was wondering if there's a way of breaking that down into increasing confidence in the reforms on the one hand or increasing demand from clients on the other hand in terms of which of those different components impacted your willingness to grow.

Yes. Meyer, this is David. I think -- so with the reform, one of the takeaways that helps the market and helps us execute into the market is really just the stability it provides. So we have been a player in Florida for decades, right? But for many years, we were underweight, partly because of the negative effects of the legal system. Now it's in a much better spot and the profitability is in a much better spot. So this year, we had opportunities because business was loss impacted. And we also had growing demand, like I mentioned, with private markets taking on more. We also have the benefit of the Florida Hurricane Cat fund moving up in its attachment. So the new demand was below that and those lower layers are layers that we target because of the high risk return. So that as a whole enabled us to act quickly. When buyers are looking to secure new capacity, they often will be more interested in securing a private deal with a company like us. So our ability to quote big capacity and buying that at our terms rather than wait for the market to come up with the clearing price really was an advantage in how we executed into those private deals in Q2.

That's really positive. Kevin, I don't know if I'm over interpreting things, but you mentioned having to write any class of business. And I know in the past, you've talked about a lot of caution with regard to commercial auto. Should we interpret this as a change? Or am I trying too hard?

I had a bit of poetic license there. Our appetite with regard to commercial auto hasn't changed. We're also not a large writer of workers' comp. neither of those 2 things have changed.

Okay. I appreciate the clarification. And then this is, I guess, a question for Bob, and I'm happy to take this offline, if that's helpful. But Kevin mentioned increased transparency. Is it a ton of work for us to get an income statement on a retained basis rather than consolidated and then working down?

That's a good question, Meyer. I mean the challenge we have is the GAAP accounting rules and the amount breaking it out. We try and give you the breakout -- we give you the breakout of the retained investment income, which is about 70% of the overall managed, and that's pretty consistent. We've given you some indications on the retained piece like on the favorable development. I talked about that on the property cat. I think about half of it stays with us. But we don't really have a good disclosure. We look at it internally and to get it externally would be an enormous amount of reconciliations that our legal department would probably put us through the grinder. Happy to talk to you offline about it. I know you talked to Keith a lot about it and how we think about it. We've given you indications about half the property cat gets allocated over to DaVinci on the top line. We've got the 15% sessions on Fontana. We talk about that. But putting it all together is an onerous exercise just given the nature of how we're structured. But we're always seeking to...

I'm sorry, go ahead.

Like I said, I was closing up and saying, we're always trying to seek to give you more insight into it and more information on how you can cut down to the core and get down to the managed -- the retained numbers.

We'll take our next question from Brian Meredith with UBS.

Bob, first one for you. I know there's continued to be some discussion about Bermuda tax credits potentially coming through. Can you give us an update on kind of where that stands and what the potential benefit for you all may be?

Thanks, Brian. I touched upon it in my prepared comments that nothing's changed, okay? They haven't come out with what they have is the tax reform commission is working with the Ministry of Finance to give them some recommendations. They're still working on that. And the Premier is committed to give us an ability to give our perspective on it before it gets legislated. But what this does is the ETA, as we call it, the economic tax adjustment, gives us the ability to offset cash payments on our taxes as opposed to effective rate relief. It doesn't change the effective tax. I talked about that being 13% in my prepared comments, but the noncontrolling interest pay a very nominal amount of tax. So that reduces it. But the tax to RenRe shareholders is just slightly above 15%.

And I guess just a follow-up on that. I was under the impression that maybe it could be an offset to G&A expenses. No?

It doesn't it's a cash credit.

Got you. All right. Helpful. And then second question, I'm just curious, big picture, we've definitely seen capital coming back into the reinsurance industry and property cat. I know a lot of it has been cat bond. But maybe you can kind of talk a little bit about how disciplined that capital is that you're seeing? Is it any different than maybe prior soft cycles we've seen?

Yes. I would say it's been disciplined. Capital is always interested and always comes into it. I think formations of new companies continues to be limited. Cat bonds is an attractive area of people, probably a little less attractive than it was a year ago, but that market remains disciplined. And then our discussions with investors coming in, they're very return focused. They have a good understanding of the market. So I don't see some of the issues that we've seen before with the influx of capital kind of wanting to be in the class regardless of return really being part of the dialogue at this point.

And we'll take our next question from Andrew Andersen with Jefferies.

Recognizing you gave an NPE guide for other property. But if we look at it on a gross basis and just thinking about the second half of the year, should we be thinking about this segment kind of following primary E&S rates?

Andrew, this is David. So I'll talk a little more about how we're thinking about the overall segment and what's in there. And I guess, first of all, starting with the overall property segment, we have a lot of ways we can deploy cat capacity. In the last few years, we've been -- had a preference to deploy that cat capacity in the property cat excess of loss product. But we also deploy cat capacity in the E&S space, and that goes into the other property segment. We also have per risk and quota share business in that segment, which is less cat exposed and isn't under as much rate pressure as what we're seeing in cat E&S. And overall, the whole subsegment and other property is performing well, which kind of leads to where we get the pressure. Looking forward, we're monitoring that really closely. We have a lot of tools to manage that. First of all, when we look at the business on a specific location basis, rated on a location basis and have real-time info on how it's trading, so we're able to make adjustments as needed. You're already shifting more of our business towards middle market versus large account. We also have options on how we shape the book with ceded. So we have a lot of ways to navigate what's coming. So it's too soon to tell exactly where the market will be, but we feel well placed to navigate it.

And then just back on fee income. If I look at kind of the acquisition ratio and cat, it was kind of up year-over-year, but it was quite a bit stronger in 1Q. I would have thought we would be seeing some benefit from total fee income in that acquisition line. Is there maybe a lag there or perhaps profit commissions?

No, they should be -- they're coming through in real time as we -- a lot of our fees that we get off of the joint ventures will come through the noncontrolling interest. Actually, a very small amount come through when you think about the performance fees, the management fees. So you'll see that that comes through noncontrolling interest, which is what we try and show in some of the supplemental information in our attachments.

And we'll take our last question from David Motemaden with Evercore.

Just on the private transactions you guys were able to do in cat. It sounded like 80% was on the high end. I'm wondering maybe if you could talk about how pricing was on that 80% of private deals versus the other 20%?

David, this is David. So we're comfortable with that the pricing was above market. It wasn't a one-size-fits-all market. So we don't have specific details on that. But we were able to execute into Florida and find up business early. This is a large portion of our book to be on private terms, and it really was a differentiator, we believe, in letting us grow into the market and land Florida at about flat versus down. There was rate pressure overall in the market on the loss -- non-loss impacted layers and the top layers like we talked about. So for our overall Florida book to be flat was a great result.

Got it. Okay. And then maybe just following up quickly. I think Alex had tried and I'll take another shot at it. But just on the general liability book or general casualty book where you mentioned you're cutting exposure by 30% or you have cut exposure by 30% over the last year. Have you guys taken any reserve actions or how much in terms of reserve actions have you guys taken on that part of the book, the back book now where you may have gotten off that risk?

Yes. When we think about reserving, obviously, we start at the top of the house and then we break it into the segments. Within the Casualty and Specialty segment, we talked about this last year. We have added some reserves from redundancy within certain specialty and certain casualty classes to the GL portfolio. But there's nothing that is unusual with -- in any book of business, there are certain classes that are above producing results above trend, others that are below trend. But on balance, the portfolio -- the Casualty, Specialty book is in a very healthy state. So there's nothing really to report with regard to any changes within over the quarter.

This does conclude today's question-and-answer session. I will now turn the program back over to Kevin O'Donnell for any additional or closing remarks.

Thank you, everybody, for joining today's call. We're proud of where the company is going into the second half of the year, and we remain optimistic about 2026. So I look forward to speaking to you in a couple of months. Thank you.

This concludes the RenaissanceRe Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call and Webcast. Please disconnect your line at this time, and have a wonderful day.