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Roivant Sciences Ltd. (ROIV)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Jan 8, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Roivant's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that today's conference is being recorded. I will now hand the conference over to your first speaker Stephanie Lee. You may begin.

Stephanie Lee Griffin

Analyst

Good morning, and thanks for joining today's call to review Roivant's financial results for the second quarter ended September 30, 2025. I'm Stephanie Lee with Roivant. Presenting today, we have Matt Gline, CEO of Roivant. For those dialing in via conference call, you can find the slides being presented today as well as the press release announcing these updates on our IR website at www.investor.roivant.com. We'll also be providing the current slide numbers as we present to help you follow along. I'd like to remind you that we will be making certain forward-looking statements during today's presentation. We strongly encourage you to review the information that we filed with the SEC for more information regarding these forward-looking statements and related risks and uncertainties. And with that, I'll turn it over to Matt.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Thank you, Steph, and good morning, everybody, and thank you for listening. I appreciate all you dialing in. So not at all a quiet quarter for us and that we put out both the Graves' data and obviously, the Phase III data for brepocitinib in DM. So sort of just a tremendous moment of transformation for the business, but a relatively quiet earnings call as we're looking forward to getting everybody together in December for a more fulsome telling of where we are as a business, more about the future on our Investor Day on December 11. That registration link is live on our website. So look forward to seeing you all there. Today will be more of a review of what's happened in the recent quarter, and then we'll talk much more about the future when we get together in December. So looking forward to that. I want to start out on Slide 5, just by taking a short victory lap because it's been a pretty wild year for us. Obviously, starting with and probably most notably the VALOR data for brepocitinib in DM, which hit on all 10 ranked endpoints and just a phenomenal data set that we think is going to transform the lives of DM patients. So that NDA filing remains on track planned for the first half of next year, and it will be the first novel oral therapeutic in DM, if approved. We also put out data in this quarter from the durable remission sort of portion of the Graves' disease trial for batoclimab, which sets us up for the future there in our 1402 Graves' program. That demonstrated disease-modifying potential for 1402. And then we think earlier this year, we put out some data in MG and CIDP that we can do a…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question coming from the line of Dave Risinger with Leerink Partners.

David Risinger

Analyst

Congrats on all the progress, Matt, and looking forward to the event on the 11th. So my question is, could you please comment on what we should be watching next with respect to Pfizer litigation? So specifically in international markets and then in the U.S.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Thanks, Dave. I appreciate the question. And obviously, it's something that a number of people are watching. It's tough as always, to comment on ongoing litigation. I have nothing to say about any potential timing of any kind of international cases. Look, it's a busier moment coming up. I think there should be a sort of scheduling process for the Pfizer case underway, and we should learn more about the exact time line, including hopefully a trial date in the near future. And I think that's probably what I would be most watching out for in terms of what's public at this point is just getting that schedule together and progressing from here.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Brian Cheng with JPMorgan.

Lut Ming Cheng

Analyst

Just 2 quick ones from us. How do you feel about argenx stepping into Graves' and whether that has any impact on your strategy of 1402? And then we have a quick follow-up.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Thanks, Brian. It's a great question. And look, I think you heard my comment on the timing of the intended sort of production of the batoclimab TED data. Obviously, we're acutely aware of the competitive landscape in Graves' disease. And look, I think to make a gentle comment, whatever, imitation is the finest form of flattery. I think it's great to see others recognizing the importance of Graves' as a disease. It's great to see more people working on treatment options for these patients. Obviously, in our Phase II study, we studied both high and low-dose batoclimab, and we saw a great benefit to the higher dose batoclimab in the study. And then also, we reported in the past data breaking out the patients between that 70% cutoff below and -- above and below 70% IgG reduction. And we had 3x as many patients getting off ATDs at the above 70% group than in the below 70% group. So we think we should have quite a competitive profile there. But most importantly, to be honest, it's a big patient population. There's a lot of sick people. And I think a rising tide there will lift all boats. And like I said, argenx is a formidable company with a wide following and has done a great job of execution. And I know there's at least some people out there who find it, although it might be frustrating to us validating of our strategy that they're following in our footsteps. And so we'll always take it. Thanks, Brian.

Lut Ming Cheng

Analyst

Great. And just one quick one. So on the Investor Day next month, just curious if you can talk about what do you want investors to get out of the Investor Day? Is this more of a broader recap of your current strategy? Or do you think that there will be some unveiling of completely new data or a new strategic direction at Roivant?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. Look, it wouldn't be a fun Investor Day if I revealed all of it now. But I think most importantly, this is just -- it's a moment of huge transformation for our business. I think the type of investors who are now along for the ride are different. And obviously, a lot of other things about the business are different. So I think we want to make sure we're telling that story fully that we're helping people see the course from a commercial perspective, from a patient need perspective in these indications so they can see at least the reasons why we are so excited about these indications about the certain nature of the blockbuster opportunity. There might be some other new things we're able to share by then in terms of updates or other things, but we'll see where we're at in a few weeks here or a month. But I think it will be an exciting opportunity to get together and take stock of the business and to talk a lot about the future and the opportunities in front of us.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Samantha Semenkow with Citi.

Samantha Semenkow

Analyst

Just for Graves', when thinking about the remission data, is there any way to tease out the impact of starting on the high-dose batoclimab in that study? And how much that actually contributed to the remission rates you saw? I'm just wondering if there's anything that you could share that you were able to tease out from the data when you analyzed it so as we think about the competitive landscape?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. Look, thanks. That's a -- it's a great question. And I do think we're going to, like I said, be a little bit careful about some of what we say here because of the evolving competitive landscape, and we're going to learn more about this from the hypothyroid TED patients and so on in that study as well. But look, I think in general, remission is about TRAbs getting normal for longer. And our view is that deeper IgG reductions are going to drive towards exactly that outcome. And so both in terms of the speed of responses that we saw in the bato trial and the depth of responses that we saw in the bato trial in terms of TRAb lowering, I think that's going to be a significant driver for us. So I think we feel good put this way about our level of IgG suppression in that program at high dose. Thanks. It's a great question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Yaron Werber with TD Cohen.

Yaron Werber

Analyst

Great. Maybe a quick question. We've been getting a few questions about the ongoing preliminary -- the summary judgment against Moderna with respect to the U.S. government involvement in the EUP -- I'm sorry, EUA and whether the government ever took "control" of the vaccines for distribution and whether that made them a commercial party and whether that impacts their involvement and as a result, would potentially provide Moderna some venue to make an argument. Any thoughts about that, if you can comment at all would be great.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Yaron. And again, as usual, it's difficult to comment in depth about an ongoing litigation, and it's ultimately going to be the judge's decision on the 1498 question. I'll point out that the 2 things that are worth keeping in mind. One is the Moderna case in the U.S. Moderna sales of COVID vaccines in the U.S. in total is a bit less than half of Moderna's total global COVID vaccine sales and Moderna's total global COVID vaccine sales are a bit less than half of the total, inclusive of Pfizer. And so -- and then what Moderna has claimed in their own briefings is that we asked for about $5 billion in damages in the U.S. case, and Moderna has claimed that a little bit less than half of those damages could be subject to 1498 in Moderna's view. And so I think you're talking about a little bit less than half of a little bit less than half of a little bit less than half of the total is the issue in summary judgment on 1498. Our position is pretty clearly laid out in our motions. And frankly, Moderna's position has also laid out in their motions. Obviously, we feel like we have a strong case to make here, but it's ultimately going to be up to the judge to determine. But I just wanted to sort of scope out the magnitude of the question as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Prakhar Agrawal with Cantor Fitzgerald.

Prakhar Agrawal

Analyst

Congrats on the progress in the quarter. Maybe firstly, on Sjögren's disease. Recently, there has been a lot of excitement around Sjögren's market opportunity, especially with the recent data from Novartis' BAFF drug, ianalumab. Maybe you can contextualize how FcRns can differentiate on ESSDAI scores or other specific endpoints? And do you think you could be first-in-class in this indication? And secondly, just quickly on Brepo and DM, do you plan to apply for FDA's National Priority Voucher for Brepo?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Thank you. Those are both great questions. Look, I think on Sjögren's, we are also excited about the market opportunity. It's a large patient population with a very significant unmet need and just a lot of people kind of going through it as it were. There have been a variety of therapeutic classes that have shown some benefit. Obviously, the in-class data was positive and the J&J data, in particular, showed that lower is better. So we think we have a real shot at best-in-class. We are working to launch as close to first-in-class as possible. I don't think we're here to commit that we'll beat our competitors. We obviously got a little bit of a head start on us, but I think we're trying to be kind of within a window small enough such that it shouldn't matter who comes first, and we can differentiate based on our profile. And I'll just say, I think, first of all, I think the Novartis data was positive, but probably left room for even better as I think have all of the Sjögren's data produced to date. And I think the FcRn data to date has sort of been competitive with other classes of drugs. And so if our deeper IgG expression yields a better benefit than other FcRns, I think we should have a truly important opportunity in the space. A lot of excitement about new therapies from KOLs and from our investigators. The unmet need is significant. The overall market is a significant number of patients. So it's a great place for us to be in our view. And then sorry, you asked about the CNPV program for brepo. We haven't said. Look, this is an orphan population with high unmet need. So I think we're thinking through all of the different ways we can get through FDA and out to patients as quickly as possible and thinking about the puts and takes of them all, but stay tuned.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Corrine Johnson with Goldman Sachs.

Corinne Jenkins

Analyst

Maybe following up on an earlier question about competitive intensity in Graves' disease. I think it goes beyond argenx in terms of number of companies that have announced plans there. So how are you thinking about the kind of competitive clinical landscape that's evolving? And what do you expect to inform sequencing decisions in that space over time? And then maybe separately, just on business development. Curious if you could give an update on what you're seeing on that front.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Corinne. Look, I think the first question -- and obviously, we see the competitive landscape. Similarly, there's a number of people trying different things, which is exciting. It's exciting Graves' space. It's exciting to be there. One comment about that is, I think we've watched the myasthenia gravis landscape play out, and there's a lot of competitive intensity and a lot of new mechanisms and also that FcRn has been, a, a pretty undisputed king so far; and b, that the first FcRn to launch with the quality of that data has been a tremendous head start. And we think we've built something similar in Graves' disease, which is a market obviously a multiple of the potential size of the MG market. So we feel great about our position, both from a timing perspective as well as a mechanism. It's a well-understood mechanism, FcRn. And it's pretty exquisitely well suited to treating the biology of Graves' disease. So you think about some of the other mechanisms outside of FcRns have something in common with ATDs, which is that at high doses, they will cause patients to go hypothyroid, which is a miserable thing as well. And so I think one of the great things about FcRn biology is other than maybe for a very short period of time, because what you're really doing is getting at the root cause of the disease with these autoantibodies, you're not going to like cause the thyroid to react in the other direction sort of directly. It's not like a TSHR targeted mechanism or something like that. And so I think that will be a big benefit to FcRn. The other thing that I think is maybe underappreciated in some communities about FcRns is just how safe and well tolerated they are.…

Operator

Operator

The next question coming from the line of Dennis Ding with Jefferies.

Yuchen Ding

Analyst

We have 2, if we may. Number one is on Pulmovant. So you guys will have Phase II PH-ILD data in the second half of next year. I guess, how confident are you about the translatability from PAH to PH-ILD? And how should we think about that update? And what's the positive delta on PVR? And secondly, on the LNP litigation, I'm curious if you've done any work on what percentage of the U.S. doses were given to actual federal government employees as we think about a middle scenario for summary judgment?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Thanks, Dennis. I appreciate it. Both great questions. Thanks for the question about Pulmovant. We're obviously super excited about mosli. Look, I think -- you have correctly identified the risk that exists in the mosli data that is we don't have data in the PH-ILD patient population, and that's sort of the nature of this study. In general, PVRs have translated well. And so I think that's an important backdrop fact between these indications. And where they haven't, it's mostly been, for example, because of the VQ mismatch issues associated with vasodilation in lung disease patients. And we think the format of mosli addresses that issue. So we are, I'd say, cautiously optimistic about that translation, but obviously, I feel a lot better when that Phase IIb data is in hand. And my hope is that we see pretty significant PVR reductions and pretty significant clinical benefit in those patients. So looking forward to that data in the second half of next year. That's another area where there's quite a lot of enthusiasm for the program and for new opportunities, especially with the overall growth from the prostacyclins in PH-ILD, leaving plenty of room for additional mechanisms. The other thing I'll point out is just the 38% PVR reduction we saw in pulmonary hypertension, even if PVR reductions are for some reason a little bit lower in PH-ILD, obviously, there's still a lot of room for a very significant amount of benefit for these patients. Your second question, what percent of doses given to federal employees? I don't think our best estimates of that are in any of our motions. But I think you can imagine, as you think about the number of federal employees that it's a relatively small percentage.

Yuchen Ding

Analyst

Got it. And if I can sneak one more in about the LNP litigation. Maybe remind us what's the status in terms of the OUS trials. We're not that familiar with the OUS process. So I guess, can you remind us how many cases you filed, which one is the furthest along? And can you get an initial decision in 2026?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. So thanks. It's a great question. In the case of Moderna, we filed a number of OUS actions, including in the UPC in Europe as well as in Canada and Japan and a couple of other places. Those litigations are all ongoing. There are important hearings in 2026. And the nice thing about some of these European jurisdictions is they can move quickly. So it is possible that we would get outcomes of various kinds within 2026 in some of those jurisdictions and obviously look forward to saying more when there's more to say.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Yasmeen Rahimi with Piper Sandler.

Dominic Risso-Gill

Analyst

Congrats on a great quarter. This is Dominic, on for Yasmeen Rahimi. We just had a question going into the TED data. Could you help us understand what you're thinking about with the expectations for the studies that are reading out here soon? And what do you hope to see to consider development considering the competitive landscape?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. Thanks. It's a great question. We're looking forward to having that data relatively shortly for sharing it next year. Look, I think the competitive bar in TED is relatively high with IGF-1Rs being pretty efficacious. That said, they certainly leave room from a safety perspective, et cetera. And so I think we're looking to see data that makes sense in the context of the competitive landscape there. The other thing that I think -- and this is part of the reason why we're focused on the sort of competition in Graves' disease, I think we'll learn a lot about hyperthyroid Graves' patients from this study as well as the possible ways in which Graves' and TED might interact with one another. And so I think we're looking forward to the data from that perspective as well. We'll obviously make a final decision on a launch in batoclimab once we've got the TED data in hand and in consultation with our partner. Thanks. It’s a great question. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Douglas Tsao with H.C. Wainwright.

Douglas Tsao

Analyst

I guess, Matt, maybe as another follow-up on Graves' and TED. As you referenced, the 2 diseases are obviously sort of very interrelated with interplay. And I guess when we think about argenx, they will potentially come to market with VYVGART being both Graves' and TED hypothetically. Obviously, you have a big head start with 1402 in Graves'. So I'm just curious how you're thinking about potentially pursuing TED with 1402 versus, as you just noted, potentially thinking about batoclimab and the sort of disadvantage of maybe sort of coming at those dual markets with 2 different molecules.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes. Look, thanks. It's a great question. And a couple of comments about this. One is it's -- we'll be speaking in the abstract now. We're going to know a lot more about the TED data that will inform the answer to this exact question, and we will be in possession of more information than anybody else will have at this moment in time on the sort of overall treatment landscape and on what FcRns can deliver. And so I think that will set us up really nicely to think about the possible options. They're totally different call point in terms of the physicians who treat these things and there are different stages of disease. And so I think they get treated at different times in different ways. And I think being able to talk to endos who are treating Graves' patients about the benefit in forestalling TED, for example, is an important potential thing to be able to discuss when we get to it. In terms of thinking about the sort of TED versus Graves' market dynamics, I'd say let's just wait and see what the TED data looks like, and then we can talk more about it. As a reminder, the Graves' population is meaningfully bigger and it's upstream of the TED population. And so I think there's a reason that was our first focus once we got into the clinic with 1402. Great question.

Douglas Tsao

Analyst

Okay. Great. And Matt, if I can, on a follow-up with brepo. Obviously, incredibly impressive results in DM. I'm just curious if you have given thought just given sort of somebody alluded to sort of the competitiveness in Sjögren's, have you ever thought of that as an indication because I think there is a mechanistic rationale and obviously, an oral option would be very attractive.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes, thanks. I appreciate the question. Look, I think the short answer is, we have thought pretty exhaustively about possible indications for brepo. We have a number that we think are exciting beyond what we've talked about. I think if you look at the indications we've chosen so far, they've been indications where we can really chart a market-defining course. And I think there are maybe more to do in that story. But the short answer is there's an embarrassment of riches in terms of the indication set available for brepo, and we feel very privileged with the data we have in hand for what we've got. As a reminder, it has worked almost everywhere it has been tested. And so I think we feel like it's a great molecule and with a lot of great places to go. Thanks for the question.

Operator

Operator

Next question coming from the line of Derek Archila with Wells Fargo.

Hao Shen

Analyst

This is a Hao, calling in for Derek Archila from Wells Fargo. I guess we have a question on brepo. We were at AACR. So very positive feedback from all the KOLs. So question is about really the competitive landscape. I guess we've seen VYVGART having data next year and the CAR-T is also starting their pivotal trials. How do you see the kind of the treatment paradigm evolve over the years? And brepo, do you have also plan to explore in other subtypes of myositis like [ IMNM and AS ]?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes, perfect. So look, I think on the deal on competitive landscape, similar comment to, frankly, my comment in Graves', which is that I think it's a great opportunity to be able to get out in front of it. And obviously, first and foremost, it may be the easiest. And oral is always going to have a huge place. The majority of these patients are on oral therapy now. And so I think just like the overall profile that makes us unique. I'll say the CAR-Ts, that's not, in my opinion, going to play for the same patients mostly that we are. That's obviously a much different sort of intervention. And there's still plenty of open questions about benefit there. Look, I think that's also sort of a little bit about that landscape. FcRn could be a compelling option. Obviously, IVIg is used. But I'd say, first of all, it's good to have what we think of as a multiyear head start in DM. And we think the patient population that we have access to, given the nature of our therapy is really basically the entire DM patient population, which gives us a lot of room to go. So we think, again, similar to VYVGART and MG, we think we get to define that market and be the heart of it. And so I think that's all great. We also suspect that the data we have in DM specifically may be just the best overall, and that's the biggest part of the myositis market. Obviously, argenx is studying in other subtypes of myositis as well, and some of those may be more directly appropriate for an FcRn. As to your question about other subtypes of myositis for us, I'll just say again, we thought about a whole bunch of different places to go. There's a lot of exciting places to go, and we have an embarrassment of riches in terms of where we can take the molecule from here.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Tess Smith with Leerink Partners.

Thomas Smith

Analyst

Congrats on the progress. Just with respect to the TED program and the competitive landscape, could you comment on some of the data we recently saw from the IL-6 class, whether you think Sat is approvable with that data set and sort of your expectations for batoclimab relative to those results? And then secondly, is there any update you could provide from the overseas study that you're running with 1402? And any sort of timing guidance for when we might see data from additional indications from that study?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes, thanks. Those are, look, obviously great questions. I'll say, obviously, not our place to make comments on the approvability of other mechanisms. There was a notably high placebo response in the IL-6 study, which is something we've paid attention to. But overall, no specific comments on where that program goes from here. From a competitive landscape perspective, I think the competitive intensity in TED is real, as I said earlier. And the IGF-1Rs are efficacious, although they have safety and tolerability concerns associated with them. And so I think we're sort of focused on where we could play in TED. And then as we said a minute ago, thinking about Graves', an opportunity to impact the disease much earlier in its course. And I think that's an important thing to the way that we are approaching that with 1402. On the sort of second overseas study, look, I think we, obviously, at this point, have a number of large registrational programs running in 1402 that are big global studies. We continue to like the option of small, fast POCs overseas and feeding that information into bigger studies. If and when we have anything to share from those ongoing efforts, we'll share it. But mostly, it's being used to inform either indication selection or design decisions of the bigger studies.

Operator

Operator

And our next question coming from the line of Brandon Frith with Wolfe Research.

Brandon Frith

Analyst

This is Brandon, on for Andy. Have you provided any analogs for the DM launch? And we're curious to know what to expect for the cadence out of the gate in longer term?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Yes, perfect. Look, I think DM is an area with high unmet need, but also not a lot of novel therapies recently launched. So first of all, there aren't great analogs to look at, specifically in DM. And second of all, I think the appropriate course for any public company is to guide cautiously on launch speed and to say that we're going to do everything we can to get this drug out there and to get docs excited about it. And the thing that we're most confident in is that the overall market opportunity is large, that there is high unmet patient need and that when we get to peak penetration, there's a really big and exciting opportunity. Exactly how long it takes to get there, I think we're going to see is the answer, and we're going to do everything we can to make it as successful as we can. Obviously, the real value add is the stuff to get the long-term trajectory here right. So that's probably how I think about the launch.

Operator

Operator

Our next question coming from the line of Sam Slutsky with LifeSci Capital.

Gaurav Maini

Analyst

This is Gaurav, on for Sam from LifeSci. So just a question on Graves' here. Based on all the market research done to date, as you compare the uncontrolled Graves' disease opportunity versus what FcRns have shown in the MG market, I guess, how do you size these up? How are you thinking about the opportunity? Is it bigger, smaller, similar as we think about MG for FcRns?

Matthew Gline

Analyst

I mean, look, it's hard to -- the MG market has been tremendous. And so I think it's hard to call it one way or another. But obviously, there's a lot of uncontrolled Graves' patients, and it's an exciting place to be. And I think we have a real opportunity to build something big. There's just lots and lots and lots of uncontrolled patients is the answer. The other thing I'll say is we'll talk more about the commercial opportunity in Graves' disease on December 11. And I think we're excited with what we see. And I think we can make -- I think the most important thing is there are hundreds of thousands of patients for whom we could make a meaningful difference and a lot of different ways for us to get into that market and establish different toeholds in places. And so we're looking forward to all of that. We're also learning, and I want to highlight this as an important advantage that we have from being first, so much about the Graves' opportunity by being out there with these docs enrolling patients in the study, looking out at what we're finding. And I think that competitive benefit is going to set us up really well to make sure we've got the right product on the market as well.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Matthew Gline for any closing remarks.

Matthew Gline

Analyst

Thank you. Thank you, everybody, for listening this morning. Once again, a phenomenal quarter for us in terms of the results we delivered. And super importantly, looking forward to getting together on the 11th to talk about the future and address in further detail some of the very same questions we got on today's call. So I hope to see many of you there. And I hope you all have a great end to your year apart from that. Thanks very much, and have a good day.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect Goodbye.