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Q1 2021 Earnings Call· Fri, May 14, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the GreenBox POS First Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. During today's presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following management remarks, the comments will be open for questions. The earnings press release accompanying this conference call was issued at the close of the market today. The quarterly report which includes the company's results of operations for the quarter end March 31 2021, was filed with the SEC today. On our call today is GreenBox POS's Chairman, Ben Errez and Chief Financial Officer, Ben Chung. I'd like to remind everyone that statements made on today's call and webcasts, including those regarding future financial results and industry prospects are forward-looking statements may be subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially from those described in the call. Please refer to the company's regulatory filings for a list of associated risks. The replay of this call and webcast will be available for the next 30 days on the company's webcast under the Events section. Thank you. At this time, I'd like turn the call over to Ben Errez, Company's Chairman. Ben, the floor is yours.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, operator and thank you all for joining us today. I'd like to welcome you to GreenBox POS first quarter 2021 financial results conference call. You noticed that the both speakers for the company today are named Ben. So during the Q&A session, please advise which of us the question is intended for. Quick notes before we start, minutes ago, we issued a press release advising of shares buyback plan, the company will deploy. The company's board of directors approved the program for open market purchases from time-to-time as the company stock continues to be unfairly valued. I invite you all to read it. First quarter of 2021 was the most successful quarter in GreenBox history on multiple fronts. Aside from the rapid growth in processing volume, the heart of our business, we achieved many additional operating highlights, while making meaningful strides to improve management governance, shareholder communications, and awareness in the capital market. I'm extremely proud of our team for their tireless efforts to drive forward our business, positioning us for success in pursuit of creating long-term sustainable value for our shareholders. Now I'd like to walk through some of the key operational highlights and fundamental development. First and foremost, we delivered on our promise to deploy our Generation 3 Advanced Large-Scale Technology in January. The deployment dramatically improved our efficiency in onboarding merchant portfolio and decreasing the timeframe to complete this from days or weeks to minutes. The immediate impact is evident with the $315 million in processing volumes from the quarter, representing a growth of 140% from $131 million during the fourth quarter of 2020. Another important development stemming from the deployment of Gen 3 Technology is our white label bank offering. In early January, the Office of the Comptroller of Currency published a letter clarifying…

Ben Chung

Management

Thank you, Ben E. This is my first earnings call with everyone at the companies. As a new CFO, I'm excited to be here and to be part of the company's exciting growth and technology. As you all may know, the company had raised substantial amount of capital through our offering in February of this quarter, which brought us net capital raise of approximately $46 million. This new capital will help us tremendously for working capital to hire talented people. But more importantly, expedite our enhancements and continuous development of our new Token Technology that Ben had then he had alluded, including onboarding process with our customers, which we expect to roll out shortly in Q2 2021. Before I go through our quarterly results, I'd like to point out that we're a calendar year-end company. Therefore our first quarter of 2021 is for the three months ended March 31, 2021. I'm now going to go through our quarter-end results. I'm excited to report that our first quarter had a very strong start with net revenue of $4.7 million, compared to $0.2 million in the prior-year same quarter, which is an increase of $4.5 million, primarily due to strong processing volume of approximately $315 million in the current quarter compared to very small volume in the prior same-year quarter. Our net revenue margin based on our processing volume of $315 million was approximately 1.5%. Our gross margin was 66% in the current quarter, compared to negative gross profit of gross margin in the same quarter of the prior-year, primarily due to higher net revenue in the current quarter compared to the same quarter of prior-year. We expect to hold gross margin of between 60% and 70% throughout the year. Our margin will be primarily driven by our negotiated commission structure with…

Ben Errez

Management

Yes, thank you, Ben. This is a very exciting time for a GreenBox and I look forward to a continuing to diligently execute on our strategy in the months ahead as we seek to create sustainable long-term value for our shareholders. Some of the numbers that Ben was discussing, led to financial projection map as follows. The total projected volume for the fiscal year 2021 remains at $1.65 billion. Q1 2021 processing volume actual is approximately $315 million, projected processing volumes for the remaining nine months of the year are $1.335 billion. Expected margins April 2021 to December 2021 are in the neighborhood of 4%. Expected revenues for the nine months are about $53.4 million. Revenues for the three months ending in March of 2021 were $4.75 million approximately and total expected revenues for 2021 is just over $58 million. At this point, I'd like to turn it over to our operator to begin the Q&A session and please direct the question to Ben C or Ben E as appropriate.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We'll take our first question from Scott Buck with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon, guys. This question is for Ben E. So clearly, a busy start to 2021. I was hoping maybe you could give a little bit of color on how you're prioritizing strategy for the remainder of the year?

Ben Errez

Management

Thanks, Scott and hello again. So our priorities remain as I presented during this initial statements on this call. We'll continue to be focusing on our Token deployment, which we think would be material for the company and for the industry in general. We intend to continue executing on our M&A activities in a big way, more on that soon. We intend to continue and acquire portfolios to increase our volume of processing again in a big way and more on that soon. And generally speaking, we intend to keep our CapEx at the current level and continue thin execution as we have always done. Next question please.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Okay, that's helpful, sure. And this one for Ben C. On operating expenses, besides normalizing for some of the non-cash expenses and stock-comp expenses in the quarter. Anything else we need to pay attention to for the remainder of the year, are you guys planning some increased hiring, marketing push, anything along those lines?

Ben Chung

Management

No, not much in marketing, but our R&D expenses is expected to go up primarily related to the new Token Technology. But more importantly, because of our compliance requirements related to these Token launches, our professional fees will go up. And I'm expecting maybe about, if we're expecting to do $50 million in revenue, it's going to be very minimal, it's going to be four basis points out of the net revenue, and our R&D will be about six basis points.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Okay, that's very helpful. And in the prepared remarks that you mentioned, kind of gross margin range of 60% to 70% for the remainder of the year. What's the longer-term target to think about for the business?

Ben Chung

Management

Ben E, you might have…

Ben Errez

Management

Just say it's for Ben E or Ben C.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Sorry, whichever Ben wants to answer.

Ben Errez

Management

So Ben E, I'll take it. So yes definitely, we see this healthy margin being sustainable, and even increase over time as we launch additional technologies and increase efficiencies. But you know us by now, we do conservative adjustments and projections, and we stay behind this 60% to 66% margin moving forward.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Understood, I appreciate your time this afternoon, guys.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, Scott.

Scott Buck

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our next question from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Christopher Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Hi, everyone. Hi, Ben E. Just I got a question on…

Ben Errez

Management

Good morning, Chris.

Christopher Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

You keep mentioning this rapid growth of the Token. Can you share any color on this growth and when you'll see it?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes, so the Token launch requires four components. Either it requires the technology and that technology needs to be a certified and viable technology, independently certified and viable technology. The second element is the sponsoring bank, the custodial bank. The third element is a national auditor and the fourth element is the seed capital. We just announced that we picked Signature Bank as the partner on this deployment. And we're very, very excited about that. We just heard that they're nearest competitor, circle with their USDC, pick the same bank and the same infrastructure. The third element is the National Auditor with which we're proceeding with onboarding efforts in an accelerated fashion as much as we can. And the fourth element being the seed capital, we committed $100 million to that requirement and intend to deploy that very soon. The Token itself at the onset is projected to have the ability to revolve up to a billion dollars per month of newly issued Token. That is enough of a bandwidth for us for a while. Hopefully, we'll have additional requirements moving forward. But out of the gate, we think that this is sufficient and it's exactly the same amount of seed capital that was used to launch USDC that is growing at about a billion dollars every 10 days now. So we definitely expect significant growth utilizing this new technology. However, we have not yet projected any of that new financial performance on to our financial. So all of the projections that I mentioned today are excluding of the Token deployment.

Christopher Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. I guess I've got a question for Ben C. Can you break down the processing volume by month and quarter one?

Ben Chung

Management

I have the quarter-to-date, not by month. But the range - there are approximately $100 million per month.

Christopher Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Okay.

Ben Errez

Management

And I would take that. I also don't have the monthly breakdown, but it's just over $100 million per month.

Christopher Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. And lastly, can you guys share or mention anything about the size of this stock buyback program?

Ben Errez

Management

Wow, you're very quick. No, so specifically, we didn't address that. We put together a plan on doing or executing on a buyback strategy. With the cascading approval required by the board of director and every time we would engage in additional such amount, we would go back to the board and seek approval. But specifically, we did not want to mention any timeframe or, amounts. This is a kind of a war and it's war. You don't let the other side, they count your bullets. So I would push on that answer forward.

Christopher Sakai

Analyst · Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Okay. All right. Thanks.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

We'll take our next question from Richard Smithline with Centrecourt Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Richard Smithline

Analyst · Centrecourt Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Thanks guys, and congratulations on a great quarter. And this is probably for either of you guys. Could you comment on the net cash used in operating activities. Is it something that we can look at and say we're going to have this kind of cash use going forward? Or is this just sort of a lot of one-time costs for whether Gen 3 or getting guys onboarded?

Ben Chung

Management

No, nothing like that. It's so - our primarily use of cash in the operating activities is cash receiving from our gateways, which are they need - these are the fees collected from merchant customers, which we need to get paid. So we could pay our merchants directly. So if you look at our balance sheet, our gateway receivable was about $11.8 million. And our payable to our merchants was, I think $5 million. So in this quarter that was kind of unusual is that, we had more receivable from our gateways and payable to our merchant. So you'll see a kind of a flip flop of that. In Q2, we'll generate higher cash flow from operating activities in Q2. So purely just timing differences.

Ben Errez

Management

And let me add to that, Richard. I may have misunderstood your question. But I thought you meant our cash reserves. And I wanted to add a note with regards to that. So yes, our cash reserves are held pretty high just over $35 million in cash. We're cash flow positive. So our operational expenses are covered out of operation. However, we do intend from time-to-time to utilize this cash strategically, I just mentioned one such usage with the buyback. But other uses primarily on the merger and acquisition front may have uses for that capital as well. But generally speaking, we like having a significant cash in the bank. This is just a corporate execution strategy and we'll continue to have that.

Richard Smithline

Analyst · Centrecourt Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Okay, great. Yes, now I saw that it was you guys were profitable for the quarter, which was great on top of the growth and was just wondering about the cash, but as Ben said, I guess it's a timing issue.

Ben Errez

Management

Correct.

Ben Chung

Management

Yes.

Richard Smithline

Analyst · Centrecourt Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Okay. That's it for me.

Ben Errez

Management

Thanks Richard.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our next question from James Young with [indiscernible] Capital. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you for taking my call. Congratulations on the progress in the quarter. Just want to see if I could ask a question around the Token. Could you elaborate a little bit on the opportunity you're going after, kind of what the size of that opportunity is, and whether you have secured a customer as of yet. And what kind of volumes are you hoping to achieve there?

Ben Errez

Management

So I'm assuming. First of all, hi, Jamie. I assume that your question is to me. This is Ben E. So as I mentioned earlier, the seed capital in the neighborhood of $100 million, allows for a maximum deployment of new tokens per month of about a billion dollars or a billion tokens. The utilization of the Token infrastructure is primarily on two prongs. Number one, every Token in issuance is already a participant in the processing volume of the transactional infrastructure underneath it. Right, this is the traditional Blockchain ledger ecosystem that GreenBox develop. The second and this is specific to utilization of the power of the Token to provide a regulated revolver line to our merchants and clients primarily is usable by money service businesses. And it's true that we have already secured commitments to volumes - significant volumes right from the beginning deployment of the Token in the hundreds of millions of dollars per month. But we think that this is just the start for the Token, and it will actually exceed this capacity and volumes very quickly in its deployment.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, so just a follow-up on that, Ben. Thank you for that piece of data. So, the margin on that should be from the get go in 4% to 5% range. Is that correct?

Ben Errez

Management

The operational margins on the Token are complex thing to forecast. But I would say that it should be higher than the ecosystem itself. And the 4% to 5% range is not out of the question. On top of just the issuance of income that relates to issuance on the Token, as I said, the Token itself is participating in the transactional volume of the processing ecosystem, right, the Blockchain ledger ecosystem, and carry the same contributions to operating margins as any other dollars that enter this system. On top of that, there are certain additional technologies that are available by utilizing the Token. For example, instantly executing into a Visa card into your Apple Pay, or Google Wallet or all of these interesting things that have value that will carry their own fee structure alongside with that. So in general, the total picture will reflect higher financial performance for the company using the tokens than using dollars.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful and just one last question for me. On the higher risk business for you and your traditional Blockchain of business. I believe, two of the main verticals for the company are online gaming, and CBD. In the CBD space, our due diligence has suggested that Fiserv has somewhere around $30 billion book and CBD and that they were working with Elavon. And they have moved to work with GreenBox. And at the moment, they're not working with anyone, but GreenBox. So it seems like that would be possibly a big opportunity, when you talk about the ramp in the processing volume in the second half of the year, as you onboard more high risk. Is that correct?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes, this is correct. I specifically did not add any projections to the technologies that are not yet deployed. We're still integrating with Fiserv on several portfolios. But what you're suggesting us, the particular verticals which are of exceptional interest and profitability to both prices and the company. You're correct on that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much for answering my questions and congrats on your progress.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, Jamie.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. We'll take our next question from Blair Friedensohn with Kingswood Capital Markets, please go ahead.

Blair Friedensohn

Analyst · Kingswood Capital Markets, please go ahead.

Hi, Ben E.

Ben Errez

Management

Hello, Blair.

Blair Friedensohn

Analyst · Kingswood Capital Markets, please go ahead.

Congrats on an awesome first quarter. I was just wondering if you could share a little bit more color on kind of ramp-up in processing volumes for the next three quarters and how we should map out the fee percentage growth over those quarters. It looks like we're at a 1.5% for this first quarter. And it's kind of a follow-up to the previous question. So as we go and acquire the higher risk merchants, how should we envision that ramp-up to achieve those revenue targets that you put out?

Ben Errez

Management

Okay. Thanks for that question, Blair. So, first of all, we like to give a growth guidance in terms of overall processing volume, because it's an easy proxy for the company. This volume grow, the company makes more money. How much money is specifically your question? So the company makes more money, more revenues on both top and bottom-line when it processes higher risk volumes. However, there is a limit to how much risk the portfolio can carry and still stay safe on the operational rule and the regulators. So when we increase processing volumes, we always increase first using low risk and then add higher risk. As a result, you see the operating margins being low in this case, the first quarter, right. This is done by the way every time a new technology cycle is being deployed. So we just deployed Gen 3 in January and therefore this cycle began in January, a little bit before in Q4, in anticipation of Gen 3. So you would see financial performance as the Ben C went through in Q1. But then you would see much improved operating margins towards the end of the year. The risk balance for the portfolio allows for a blended revenue map that represents higher figure. So although we say just look at the pricing volumes and go from there, do anticipate that in an annual view, these margins will stable on a much higher figure maybe as much as the three times that of Q1 in an annual perspective. And this is in line with the numbers that I projected at the end of my presentation.

Blair Friedensohn

Analyst · Kingswood Capital Markets, please go ahead.

Okay. That is very helpful. And then just one quick follow-up. Should - is there anything on the M&A front in the pipeline that we should be on the lookout for over the next couple of quarters? Or is that someone put on hold as you ramp-up internally?

Ben Errez

Management

Quite the opposite. Not only are we not putting any M&A activities on hold, we're actually accelerating M&A activities. We're not at liberty to discuss that today, as some of these are in the midst of processing. But they do expect the substantial amount of acquisition activities or transactions in the next nine months, definitely.

Blair Friedensohn

Analyst · Kingswood Capital Markets, please go ahead.

Okay, thank you for the clarity. Thank you for your time this evening. That's all for me.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Ben Errez for his closing remarks.

Ben Errez

Management

Okay, thank you very much, operator. I'd like to thank all of you for joining our earnings conference call today. We look forward to continue to update you on our ongoing progress and growth. If we were unable to answer any of your questions, please reach out to our Investor Relations firm MZ Group, who will be more than happy to assist further. Thank you all.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. We appreciate your participation. You may now disconnect.