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Q1 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, May 16, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the GreenBox POS First Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. During today’s presentation, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following management remarks, the conference will be open for questions. The earnings press release accompanying this conference call was issued at the close of the market today. The quarterly report, which includes the company’s results of operations for the three-month ended March 31, 2022 was filed with the SEC today. On our call today is GreenBox POS’ Chairman, Ben Errez and Chief Financial Officer, Ben Chung and Chief Operating Officer, Min Wei. I’d like to remind everyone that statements made on today’s call and webcast, including those regarding future financial results and industry prospects are forward-looking and maybe subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those described in the call. Please refer to the company’s regulatory filings for a list of associated risks. The replay of this call and webcast will be available for the next 90 days on the company’s website under the Events section. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Ben Errez, the company’s Chairman. Ben, the floor is yours.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, operator. And thank you all for joining us today for our first quarter 2022 financial results conference call. Following up on a strong growth trajectory in 2021, the first quarter of 2022, the best quarter by volume of processing in the company's history was also highlighted by continued execution against several key strategic objectives that paved the way for long term growth. We successfully completed the acquisition of Transact Europe assuring GreenBox into a very attractive European payment market, and setting the table for our global ascension. By partnering with Cross River, a well respected financial technology infrastructure leader, we can bring to fruition or banking as a service solution and materially enlarge the potential universe of customers to deliver our financial solutions too, while also expanding our solutions to all existing customers. With the purchase of Sky Financial's processing portfolio, we secure the large merchant base of approximately $1 billion in annual transaction volume and growing. Operationally, we continue to make progress on improving our Executive team and Board of Directors, putting the needed expertise and infrastructure in place for us to continue to scale. With that, I'd like to elaborate on some of our key operating highlights from the quarter. As I've talked about previously, acquisitions are a vital part of our long term growth strategy. We look for select opportunity targets to increase our processing volume. licensing assets, technology and talent. On that front we have two noteworthy accomplishments. First, we completed our acquisition of Transact Europe or as we call it internally TEU, which, considering the time and thoroughness of the Bulgarian bank regulatory review process was no simple task. TEU enabled us to effectively deliver the advantages of our customized payment solutions technology to European merchants, several key strategic initiatives are ready to…

Ben Chung

Management

Thank you, Ben. I will limit my portion to key results or her financials, a full breakdown is available in our 10-Q filing and in the press release that was distributed after market close today. Please note that I'll be referring to adjusted EBITDA, and other non-GAAP -- U.S. GAAP measures. And for the calculation of adjusted EBITA and other non GAAP measures, please refer to the MD&A, which is available in our 10-Q filing, which you can find on our website under SEC filings. Net revenue increased by $140,000 or 3.1% to $4.9 million for the three months ended March 31, 2022, from $4.7 million for the three months ended March 31, 2021. The increase in revenue was due to the increase in processing volume, but offset by higher fee to gateways and ISOs. Gross profit in the first quarter of 2022 was $2.3 million, or 47.6% of total net revenue, compared to gross profit of $3.2 million, or 66.4% of total net revenue in the same quarter a year ago. The decrease in gross profit was primarily due to increased costs of revenue resulting from higher processing fees paid to gateways and commission payments to ISOs. I would like to now discuss our operating expenses. We categorized our operating expenses into two categories, normal operating expenses, and non-cash operating expenses. Normal operating expenses include marketing, research and development, payroll, professional and general expenses, while non-cash operating expenses include, stock compensation expenses for employees, and for services including depreciation. Our normal operating expense was $7.8 million and $2.3 million for Q1 2022 and 2021 respectively, an increase of $5.5 million, primarily due to an increase in general and administrative expense related to payroll for increase in number of employees due to growth and also related to our heavy investment…

Min Wei

Management

Thank you, Ben. Over the past three months, I enjoyed the opportunity of working with the rest of the GreenBox leadership team. And we started the process of our intermediate term and longer range planning. This is particularly important as 2022 is a transitional year for GreenBox. As we are finalizing our Coyni platform for public introduction, and getting on with platform monetization. As a result of this effort, we have better visibility in our quarterly operating performance and have verified our paths as follows. Q1, we completed Coyni v1 platform development, and prepared it for a beta pilot the select external users. We revamped our sales and business development organization and established a systematic approach to sales pipeline development and management. We started our efforts in marketing and support operations in preparation for the Coyni public beta pilot. Q2, we introduced in April the coyni v1 platform to the public for beta, and I wanted to take the chance to thank those for participating in the beta. We have received since many positive feedbacks. Beta pilot impacts are being analyzed. prioritized and incorporate into our Coyni released roadmap. We are enhancing our customer onboarding, and support processes. In addition, we are also working on incorporating our Coyni quality platform as part of our FX and international payments ecosystem this quarter. Most of its happening number of months. Q3. We expect to have our Coyni platform, we must enhance merchant functionality ready-to-go, and we increase business volume both domestically and internationally. We anticipate to start generating positive cash flow in that quarter. Q4, with our identify business opportunities to materialize, we expect to see significant transaction volumes to our platforms, and further improved top line and bottom line results. As a result about Q4 will be the best quarter of the year. As we continue to drive operational improvement, we are expecting to see the following metrics. Process volume, Q1 2022 has been the best quarter ever for the company as Ben mentioned earlier. We plan to continue this uptrend and set new volume records in each of the subsequent quarters this year. Net revenue from processing in Q1 is flat, and Q2 will be flat or slightly up as we prepare to ramp up volume through our platform. We expected the ramp up in Q4 -- Q3 and Q4. Adjusted pro forma EBITDA, Q1 is negative as we invest in product development, delta marketing resources, and Q2 will be also. We budgeted approximate $4 million in additional structural and operational investments throughout FY 2022 as the transitional year, and seeing the close to break even EBITDA year. We remain confident in our look to achieve at least $4 million to $6 billion in processing volume in 2022. With that, I'd like to now turn the call back over to Ben, before we begin our Q&A.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, Min. Looking ahead, we continue to believe we are well positioned to disrupt the payment landscape. As we expand our global presence, improve our innovative payment solutions technology, and establish the operational infrastructure to facilitate our growth strategy. I look forward to providing additional updates in the months to come. Before moving to the Q&A portion of today's call, I would like to add a few comments pertaining to compliance and stability of stablecoin technology in general, and our own Coyni technology. While we see some spectacular flaws in some coins recently, including the possibility of certain coins, being detegged from their minted underlying currency. I would like to reiterate the differences between these technologies and that of Coyni, ensuring that such problems cannot occur with Coyni. At the base of the defense wall, Coyni is fully custodial, and fully transactional with the backing of a federally chartered bank, and is audited for such ecosystem health and compliance continuously and in real time. This method ensures Coyni cannot be detegged and keeps to instant full value liquidity. Although no other stablecoin has committed, let alone implemented such architecture, it is likely that upcoming industry regulation will cement these requirements of all participants in the space. Thank you all for your interest in GreenBox. We're fully truly grateful for your ongoing support. With that, I'd like to turn the conversation back to the operator to begin the Q&A portion of this session. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. [Operator Instructions] And the first question will be from Howard Halpern with Taglich Brothers. Please go ahead.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Good afternoon, gentlemen. I jumped in a little late, but hopefully even go over this all through. But your processing volume traveled from year-over-year, revenue didn't really budge all that much, a 100,000 up? Am I understanding that revenue really isn't going to budge too much until the second half of the year? Is that what you were saying towards the end of the presentation?

Ben Errez

Management

So, first of all, Howard, welcome to the call. You have been a good friend to the company and have been following us for a while. And your analysis of our financials is very impressive. So, thank you for your continued support.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. Thanks.

Ben Errez

Management

You did mention that they we had a significant volume of processing growth. I think you mentioned that 2x growth we actually did in 2021 -- fiscal year 2021 over fiscal year 2020 about 10x. And as we stated in the beginning of this call, the first quarter of this year, which we are discussing today has been the biggest in the company's history with a total processing volume reaching approximately $750 million total. As we look forward to the rest of the year, we anticipate this volume to continue and grow. We have every quarter this year-over-year budgeted for a new record. And volume of processing, one of the most important metrics that we use to analyze companies performance. As you grow volumes, it is very difficult to maintain operating margins alongside with that, not only because the product mix tends to pull towards the safer lower risk, lower reward type of business. But also as you address the universe of independent sales organizations, you tend to shrink operating margins along with it. Still it is our main objective to continue and grow volumes as quickly and to the highest degree that is afforded to us. And anticipated, we will see significant volumes through fiscal year 2022 and beyond. In terms of operating margins, our internal goal was and continues to remain to be a little over 60 basis points on volume in terms of net revenues.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay.

Ben Errez

Management

I think I would say it, I would say with that unless Min or Ben want to add to that.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

With that trend getting to that 60% or a little above point six in the…

Ben Errez

Management

60 basis point.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

In the second half of the year that should be a solid metric to use?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

And then with the acquisition, I guess is, Sky, will we start to see, the sales also improved? Or will you be less reliant on the ISOs? And how do we look at that part of the equation to get down to gross profit. That should improve in the second half of the year?

Ben Errez

Management

So, go ahead, Ben.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you. So, the one change that we discussed on today's call with regards to the cost of sales has been helped and improved by the acquisition of the Sky portfolio. And by the way, the Sky is an asset acquisition and not a company acquisition. So I just want to make sure that we speak with the right term.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay.

Ben Errez

Management

As we move that portfolio internally on that particular piece of the business, operating margins will improve, and sort of used to balance out the opposite trends from growth in other business units. So, I think a, the general trend that you have identified is correct. We would like to stay and budgeted staying in the neighborhood of 60 or better basis points on volume. Ben, did you want to add to that?

Ben Chung

Management

Yes. We mentioned our block, our block technology. And as we grow our infrastructure, our plan is not just to rely just on Sky portfolio, but also grow internally by adding new merchants into our block. That's really our core technology for our payment processing system. With our block when we underwrite and onboard our merchants, our margin becomes much higher. So, our basis point that then Ben E is eluding is very conservative. It could be more as we get into different types of industries, which provides a higher risk portfolio and as a result, our basis points on that net revenue should increase significantly on a go forward basis.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. And one last one with Transact now officially in the fold [ph]. What are you seeing in terms of the employees there or the principles that sold the business who are still there trying to ramp up the business? What are you seeing in terms of them, onboarding new customers going forward? And that, of course, should be higher margin business to, if I'm correct?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes. So let me deliver with on here to Min who manages our international expansion for better visibility on that part of the business?

Min Wei

Management

Okay. Thank you, Ben. Howard, to answer your question, absolutely, Transact Europe is a very strategic acquisition for us. I just recently visited the office to welcome them to the GreenBox family. We have very good honest people. They're working really hard. We see Transact Europe been a key foundation for FX and the international payments business line that we intend to grow. And this is actually one of those really compelling piece of the puzzle for us. We absolutely expect to see much better contribution margin from the FX and international payments space. So I was planning to weigh in any way to your question earlier, as we continue to onboard customers there, as matter of fact, we started doing that already. We will see our contribution margin from that space helping us to improve our overall margin.

Howard Halpern

Analyst

Okay. Thanks, guys, and keep up the good hard work that you do.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, Howard.

Operator

Operator

The next question will be from Chris Sakai with Singular Research. Please go ahead.

Chris Sakai

Analyst

Hi, Ben. Just a question on Coyni. I guess, was the Q3, are you expecting it to launch? And is that going to be usable with Transact Europe in Q3?

Ben Chung

Management

Hey. I can take that question. I'll take that question. Definitely a good question. Q3 is going to -- as I mentioned earlier, we expect to see ramp up volume both domestically and internationally for Coyni in Q3. And the answer to your question is yes, and yes. We expect to see more usage of Coyni within the states, and also leveraging Transact Europe for FS international payments. Like I mentioned earlier, we started onboarding customer there already. We expect to see volume ramping up. And that will help us internationally to.

Chris Sakai

Analyst

Okay, great. And then, didn't hear anything about American Samoa? What's going on there?

Ben Chung

Management

Yes. I can that question too. We started, as a matter of fact, this quarter is exciting quarter. As I mentioned in previous communication with you, we started laying the foundation of work in American Samoa this quarter. And as a matter of fact, we are working with the local bank, and that to fulfil the initial sales orders we have. So we started doing work there. We intend to share more updates in the coming weeks or months. Please stay tuned.

Chris Sakai

Analyst

Okay, great. Can you comment on any acquisitions in the future?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes, I'll take that. That's one of my favorite topics. So first of all, Chris, thanks for your continued support. You've also been a great analyst. And your view is very much appreciated. Also, I wanted to thank you for being one of our beta testers on Coyni and providing very material feedback on the health and stability of that system. With regards to acquisitions, so we definitely see additional acquisitions coming down the pipe. We have identified at least to the best they could be potential targets for the company. I'm unable to disclose a lot more beyond that. But the overall goal with acquisitions remained the same. The same metrics that we use to evaluate the business performance of GreenBox itself are the metrics that we're looking for in potential target acquisition. We have set aside the right budget structure and organizational support to be able to add such acquisitions. And I anticipate that we will do at least one major acquisition within the next one or two quarters.

Chris Sakai

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks for that. And is it right, so, margins are expected to increase back to 60 basis points. Is that by next quarter or by Q3?

Ben Errez

Management

So, as Min specified, we see the second quarter, who behaved just slightly better than the first quarter leveling off in the third quarter, and hockey stick upwards in the fourth quarter. Exactly what does that mean? We have internally projected, but have not yet discussed that outside the company and the board. But that's essentially is my guidance to you today. You should expect about flat Q2 over Q1. About breakeven, Q3, and much better performance in Q4.

Chris Sakai

Analyst

Okay, great. And last one from me. Can you comment on any of the share buyback? Is there any left there? Any money left?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes. So we do have still budget for that. We are looking at what is happening out there with our stock and with the stock of our peer group. And we look at that with or just like all of you and most of our shareholders. We know it's temporary. We don't want to gamble on calling any particular bottom. We think that the stock is dramatically undervalued. We continue to purchase it internally. And you can see some of the results of that in our financials. We still have some budget left to continue and do that. And we will continue and do that so long that the conditions are substantially the same as they are now. We think that selective opportunities exist not only with our company, but with others. And we will deploy our capital accordingly.

Chris Sakai

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks for the answers, Ben.

Ben Errez

Management

Thanks for the question, Chris.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question will be from Darren Aftahi with Roth Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi. This is Austin on for Darren. Appreciate for taking my questions and congrats on the quarter. I just have a few for you. Kind of on the last question, I apologize that this is somewhat reiterative. But I was just kind of curious, Ben on how you maybe balancing the aggressiveness with additional share buybacks versus acquisitions?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes. Thanks for the question. And I tried to say exactly that. And thanks for helping me with the phraseology there. Opportunities are out there with our stock and acquisitions of other companies. I think being selective is what we are mandated to do. Just like not all companies are born the same or operating the same. Not all stablecoins are born equal, or operating in the same responsible fashion as Coyni is demonstrating out there. It's very important to understand the differences in when you analyze opportunities both for on stock and for acquisitions outside of our space. We intend to continue and deploy the same strategy, both internally on share buyback and in our acquisition. I cannot give you any guidance on stock, that's not my job. But I can tell you that internally, we see our stock as very much undervalued. And as I said before, we will continue to deploy capital in accordance with that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it? I appreciate that. And then, touch on Coyni once again. So, it sounds like it's more likely to be formally kind of rolled out and looking towards Q3, I'm just curious what kind of outreach I guess you have and publicly differentiating Coyni from some other stablecoins in terms of like how it's backed up and so forth?

Ben Errez

Management

Yes. That's a great question. So, if you would allow me, I'll start from the second half of the question. So, first of all, I have said that many times, both on interviews, on podcasts, and even in your own conference, at the ROTH conference I participated in a discussion panel about the space and they said exactly that, that we you have to put a fundamental importance on two elements pertaining to stablecoin. One is its custodial property. And the second, it's transactional property. And everything that we see today in terms of if you look at the USD or if you look at the Luna and other stablecoin, that they are disastrous in performance and in stability, this is not something that you would see from Coyni. I can tell you that the writing the original Coyni white paper approximately two years ago, I have identified that risk, specifically, and I'm talking about the depegging risk. Already two years ago, this is not new. Having the right custodial architecture is probably the most important piece of representing minted currency using digital vehicles. And when you talk about custodial properties, we divide those into two. Number one, is having the ability to mint, essentially to exceed the number of tokens in circulation versus the number of dollars or whatever is the underlying minted currency that supports the ecosystem. That's ability to mint has to be removed completely from stablecoin conversation. The ability to mint has to be replaced by license to issue, which is granted with federal responsibility. In other words, you first have to fund the trust or backup account, and then get the license to mint or to issue additional tokens. And then second, that compliance and health of the ecosystem has to be verified by way of reasonable auditing capabilities in real time, and all the time, not only upon request. And that means that this real time audit has the ability to shut down a non compliance system instantly. And as I said in the previous few presentations, this property only exists today with Coyni, for whatever reason, probably because it's very difficult to implement. From the technology perspective, no other stablecoin has subscribed to that architecture. And as a result, we see these spectacular failures, I can assure you that the Coyni architecture cannot allow for something like this to happen.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. I appreciate that. And then just the last quick one for me. I'm curious how you guys think about international expansion. Mainly in like in an environment, a high volume, geographical location, like APAC versus maybe a more underserved geographies, such as Latin America or something like that?

Min Wei

Management

Yes. I can answer the question. Very good question, right? As a starting point, we're looking at multi currency capability. I will also say that's one of the unique hopefully differentiator for Coyni platform as well. Initially, what we will do is we will start with the major currencies, including U.S. dollars, Euro, Great British pounds and the Canadian dollars. We do have the license in Brazil, and through the Transact Europe acquisition, we have acquired EMI licenses in Europe. So we will be well-positioned to handle additional currencies. I'm not in the position to disclose that, but then we are indeed looking at a roadmap to enable multiple times of the initial currencies reasonably quickly.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. That's helpful. Well, I think that's all the questions I have. So I appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Ben e Errez for his closing.

Ben Errez

Management

Thank you, Chad. I would also like to thank all of you for joining our earnings conference call today. We look forward to continuing to update you on our ongoing progress and growth. If we were unable to answer any of your questions, please reach out to our IR firm, the MZ Group, who would be more than happy to assist. Thank you all and I appreciate your time. Back to you, operator.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect. Thank you and have a nice day. Take care.