Good afternoon and welcome to SAIC's Q1 fiscal year 2021 earnings call. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Shane Canestra, SAIC's Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir.

Good afternoon and thank you for joining SAIC's first quarter fiscal year 2021 earnings call. My name is Shane Canestra, Vice President of Investor Relations. And joining me today to discuss our business and financial results are Nazzic Keene, SAIC's Chief Executive Officer and Charlie Mathis, our Chief Financial Officer. Today, we will discuss our results for the quarter ended May 1, 2020. This afternoon, we issued our earnings release, which can be found at investors.saic.com, where you will also find supplemental financial presentation slides to be utilized in conjunction with today's call. Both of these documents, in addition to our Form 10-Q to be filed soon, should be utilized in evaluating our results and outlook along with the information provided on today's call. Please note that we may make forward-looking statements on today's call that are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from statements made on this call. I refer you to our SEC filings for a discussion of these risks, including the Risk Factors section of our Annual Report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. In addition, the statements represent our views as of today and subsequent events may cause our views to change. We may elect to update the forward-looking statements at some point in the future, but we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so. In addition, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures and other metrics, which we believe provide useful information for investors and both our press release and supplemental financial presentation slides include reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP measures. It is now my pleasure to introduce our CEO, Nazzic Keene.

Thank you Shane and good afternoon. While I am pleased to discuss SAIC's first quarter results and outlook, I want to first take a moment to extend my hope that each of you and your loved ones are healthy and managing through the disruptions in these unprecedented times. Each of us has been affected in some way and it is my sincere wish that you and your families are well. I intend to cover several items that I know are of interest to you, including the impact of COVID-19 on the business, an update on our completed acquisition of Unisys Federal and a significant contract win in our AMCOM portfolio. Before discussing these items, let me touch briefly on our first quarter results which included about seven weeks of Unisys Federal performance. Additionally, as our quarter ended on May 1, the quarter contains roughly the same seven weeks of COVID-19 impact, a larger timeframe than those of March quarter-end. Charlie will provide more detailed information on the quarter and our outlook for the fiscal year. SAIC has started fiscal year 2021 on a very strong note highlighted by revenue growth, consistent profitability and healthy free cash flow, all while navigating this unprecedented business environment. These results are attributable to the dedication of our approximately 26,000 employees and I want to thank our entire team for their resolve during this challenging time. I am so proud of the men and women of SAIC. Despite the modest impact of COVID-19 to first quarter revenues, SAIC achieved organic revenue growth of 3% as compared to the prior year quarter. Adjusting for the COVID-19 impact, organic revenue growth would have been 5%. Free cash flow was strong and reinforces the resiliency of our market and of SAIC as well as continued confidence in our…

Thank you Nazzic. SAIC started fiscal year 2021 with strong results, particularly inorganic revenue growth, free cash flow and contract awards while effectively navigating a variety of issues associated with the COVID-19 pandemic. We also closed the very strategic and financially accretive Unisys Federal acquisition. As Nazzic mentioned in her remarks, the first quarter contained about seven weeks or a little over half of the quarter of both the COVID-19 and Unisys Federal impact. Let me begin with our strong business development results. Net bookings for the first quarter were approximately $1.6 billion, translating to a quarterly book to bill of 0.9. While our first quarter book to bill ratio is in line with first quarters historically, it does not fully represent the success of contract awards in the quarter. In addition to contract bookings, we were awarded approximately $4.6 billion of single award IDIQ contracts, our largest quarterly amount ever. These contract awards do not immediately contribute to backlog per our bookings policy but will add to bookings for the next several years. Of these single award IDIQs, approximately half were for new business awards. This included the new business wins on the U.S. Air Force EDIS and Defense Logistics Agency FSG-80 contracts. Also, we were awarded a new business contract valued at $368 million to provide support services across the FAA's workforce of more than 50,000 people. The single award IDIQ also included the successful recompetes of our Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture contract worth up to $1.3 billion and our FAA controller training contract valued at $653 million. It was a very exciting quarter of new business awards and maintaining large recompetes. The momentum continued in the second quarter. Subsequent to the end of the quarter and as Nazzic mentioned, SAIC was awarded the first in a…

Thank you Charlie. We have always been recognized as a market leader in our industry but now we can proudly say that we are a leading company across all industries. A few weeks ago, SAIC was named to the prestigious Fortune 500 list for the first time. With an initial ranking of 466, we have been recognized for transforming from a spin-off company six years ago to the much larger and powerful business force we are today. And as we add the Unisys Federal portfolio and accelerate organic revenue growth, I am confident that we will increase our position on the list next year. With profitable revenue growth as SAIC strategic priority, we have made an incredible hire to further drive that momentum over the long term. We are pleased to welcome Dee Dee Helfenstein to the company as Executive Vice President and Chief Strategic Growth Officer. This new position was created to drive the company's organic growth and market leadership by aligning capabilities with customer needs and market opportunities. Dee Dee will lead SAIC's corporate strategy and growth initiatives reporting directly to me. Our solutions and technology group and our strategic development team will be key parts of Dee Dee's organization to strengthen the company's ability to bring innovative differentiated solutions to our customers and deliver digital transformation for the federal government. As indicated through our results and commentary today, there is a great deal of momentum in our business. I have often said that we at SAIC are driven by mission, united by purpose and inspired by opportunity. This crisis that we are all living with, although incredibly tragic, creates the opportunity for our purpose-driven company to align and come together in support of each other, in partnership with our customers and in service to our nation. I have never been more proud to be a leader of such an incredible team of men and women that live this every day with selflessness, passion, commitment and true purpose. Thank you to all my SAIC colleagues. Operator, we are now ready to take questions.

[Operator Instructions]. And you have a question from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies.

Hi. Sorry. This is actually Greg, on for Sheila. Good evening. I was just hoping you could provide an update on AMCOM. You had some color in your opening commentary. When the next RFPs are? How much upside do you see to the total scope of the contract and just timing on some other awards within that contract?

Yes. This is Nazzic. So as we reported, we are very thrilled that we won the first one and I certainly secured a significant portion of our revenue and derisked the year for us. So I am very excited to be able to share that news with you. The AMCOM recompete portfolio has multiple contracts that will go up for bid between now and the course of probably the next 12 to 18 month. And so we will continue to examine and look at those where we believe we are best suited to win and in a great position to be very, very competitive. At this stage, this win secures most of the revenue or significant part of the revenue for the year and the rest of them then will start to fall into place in the award cycle as we get later in this year and in the next.

Thanks. And then just one follow-up on Unisys. You had the TADS win in the quarter. How incremental was that to kind of the growth expectations you laid out when you acquired the business? And how do we think about that the ramp on that win?

Yes. So that was actually in the plan. There was a number of new proposals in there. We knew that going in. We had a very good chance of winning those when we did the due diligence and it came to fruition. So that's part of the expectation of Unisys Federal providing double digit revenue growth for the next couple years. So yes, that was factored in.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Cai von Rumohr with Cowen & Co.

Yes. Thank you very much. So you explain the cash flow variance this year, but I guess you guide has been for $500 million next year and I have a $35 million headwind from the deferred payroll tax. Is $500 million still kind of you still thinking about that kind of a number?

Yes. Thanks Cai. It's a question. First of all, we are very happy to get off with such a strong start with the free cash flow in a very difficult time. And like you said, because of the provision in CARES Act, we are able to defer payments and accelerate the free cash flow this year. That's why we increased from $450 million previous guidance to $500 million. Now it's really a timing issue because previously the $550 million that we talked about with Unisys Federal, we would have to pay that back. So it's really timing related. But between the two years, we were projecting $1 billion of free cash flow and we are still projecting $1 billion of free cash flow between the two years.

Got it. That's terrific. And can you give us some color on the expected margin profile over the year? I guess if you add back the COVID, margins were flat year-over-year. How much of that was Unisys? And how should we expect the profile of margins over the years?

Yes. Thanks Cai. It's a great question there. And let me just add a few additional comments on the margins just to be clear. The margin outlook provided in our guidance, excluding COVID, is in line with the pre-COVID outlook provided in March. Nothing has changed as far as the margin outlook previously except that CAOVID we are expecting to have a $25 million profit impact. Most of that impact is related to nonrecoverable of fees on the ready-state workforce. So our margin and additionally, I would say, our second half margins have historically been higher than our first half. The future quarters will contain a full quarter of Unisys Federal margin contribution. This quarter you only had half. And there are some Engility synergies impacts that are strong in the second half that we are still realizing. So we have good line of sight to the margins. And again, nothing has changed from our pre-COVID outlook except the fact that we have this $25 million impact. Does that help?

That's terrific. One last one. Could you give us some color, you mentioned AMCOM and other recompetes or your bookings prospects for the year?

Yes. Cai, this is Nazzic. So it's a great question. Obviously, retiring the significant recompete that Charlie mentioned in his opening comments put us in a very strong position going into the year and certainly we are very pleased to be able to retire the risk of recompete related to FAA of $1.3 billion, of the AMCOM at $2.9 billion and the FAA at $650 million. So retiring those going into the year certainly derisks the year. Those were the three most significant recompetes that had any type of material revenue impact to us for this year. And so we have the normal cycle of recompetes, as you can imagine, but nothing of that size or scale that would have that kind of impact. So we feel very good about going into retiring that risk at this stage of the year.

And Cai, don't overlook the $4.6 billion of single award IDIQs in the quarter. I mean that was the largest ever that the company has experienced. And then there is a lot of new business wins, FSG-80 $950 million, Unisys Federal the TADS win $630 million, FAA ISC $358 million. So it was a very robot quarter of contract awards. So I know those don't show up in the book to bill. But that is a very substantial number. And I can continue to say that, as we said before the momentum of submittals and proposals were extremely busy and the momentum there continues on the BD efforts.

Your next question comes from the line of Jon Raviv with Citigroup.

Hi. Thanks everyone and good afternoon. Glad to hear dear everyone's well. Just a quick follow-up, Charlie, on the free cash flow comment. So you are still seeing the $1 billion across the two years. I understand the timing and nature of tax holidays, so to speak. Can you just be a little more specific? So we saw $550 million in FY 2022. Is $550 million now going to be $480 million? So losing the $70 million? Or that's the $550 million going to be in FY 2022? And where does that $20 million of loss COVID play into that still seeing $1 billion across the two years? Are you essentially making up the $20 million elsewhere? Or it's kind of a rounding error?

Yes. So good question, Jon. And let me just do a little walk here to help you through this. So our previous guidance was the $450 million. You have got the $70 million from the CARES Act on the deferred payroll tax rate, right. And then you subtract $20 million from the profit impact of COVID. That's how we get to the $550 million for this year, right. So next year, FY 2022, $450 million baseline and we also had the A&I cash impact in FY 2021 that we won't have in 2022. So you have to add that back to get a revised base of around $409 million of free cash flow. We don't anticipate having COVID headwinds next year. That's 20 million we are having this year. And next year also increased profit of $20 million to $30 million gets you to around $540 million, of which we have to pay $35 million back of deferred payroll tax, okay. So that's how you get $500 million this year and $500 next year. And hopefully, if we need to take this offline and go over this again, but that's kind of the walk and roll up, if that helps.

Yes. It does. I just was making sure that we are still at that $550 million-ish level when you said approaching $550 million in FY 2022, that one increased. So that helps a lot. Thank you. And then in terms of a lot of the new wins that you have you come across here, how do you think about the margin profile of those wins? You are still targeting 8% to 9% ex-COVID for this year. Where do things go thereafter? Appreciating that Unisys is accretive, but I don't know if some of those things coming in, they are starting at new or going to be dilutive?

Yes. I am very pleased by the margin profile and going after firm fixed-price contracts, more solutions oriented, if you look at some of our disclosures as far as our own direct labor content. So we have some very favorable trends happening at a macro level that gives us confidence in that increased margin profile. There is always pressures with the number of recompetes that we have to deal with, for sure. But we have made good progress in just because going after more firm fixed-price contracts should help with the margins in the future.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons with Goldman Sachs.

Hi. Thanks. Good evening.

Hi Gavin.

I wanted to ask on organic revenue growth rate. It was 3% in the quarter and your full year guide is 1% to 4%. But I think you had previously spoken about growth accelerating throughout the year as your new work ramps up. Obviously, the COVID headwind looks like it might be more impactful going forward than it was this quarter. But on the upside, you have locked in AMCOM and TADS and you got the $4.6 billion of single award IDIQs. So I mean is there any reason organic should decelerate from the current pace? And what might actually get you to the low end of that range? Like, was there any pull forward in the quarter? Thanks.

When you look out to Q2, we have got probably more COVID related than we had in Q1 because that road started halfway through the quarter. And a lot of it is driven by operational tempo for supply chain business. There was stop in movement in the quarter. There was a lot of training exercise canceled. That had an impact on the revenue topline there. So most of this impact, again, is going to be in the first half of the year. We do see modest improvement in the second half the year related to the COVID impact. That's how we are planning for this. But again, as we said, when we gave the guidance, we don't actually know. There is still uncertainty related to the pandemic but this is the best that we know at this time.

Yes. So there is nothing abnormal in the 5% underlying ex-COVID growth rate this quarter?

No.

Okay. Great. And then longer-term, obviously a lot of moving pieces and you have spoken about the COVID uncertainties, but you guys had a prior target of fiscal 2020 to 2022 organic growth of 3%. Is that something that you can still achieve?

So repeat that again. You are saying for our longer term view of 3%, yes?

Yes. Is that something you can still achieve over fiscal 2020 to 2022?

Yes. We still feel confident in our growth profile. That's obviously a key priority of ours, as we have shared with you. And as Charlie and myself, we are seeing good momentum in the pipeline development. We continue to see the opportunity to drive growth in the business. Obviously, we are dealing with a headwind that is a bit unpredictable, although we have good visibility into at least the actions that are being taken right now with the customers. So at this stage, we do feel comfortable and confident with that projection.

Got it. Thanks very much.

Your next question comes from the line of Joseph DeNardi with Stifel.

Yes. Thanks. Good evening. Nazzic, can you just talk a little bit about the nature of the impact on the business? It sounds like it's primarily focused on not being able to get where they need to be? If there is anything on the award activity side that's kind of factored into the guidance? And then in terms of the areas of the business that are being impacted, are you having conversations with customers in terms of like a timeline to get back to normal? Or is that still to come? Just trying to understand when you think the business kind of gets back to where you thought it would be?

It's a great question. So I think on the first part of your question, most of the impact that we see is in areas that are, so as an example, the intelligence community and all of us in this market that serve the intel community are dealing with the same challenge and that is, for the most part, there is always exceptions. Many of the individuals that serve that community, work in shifts. And so ensuring that we can protect the health and well-being of our employees collectively, customer employees as well as ours, be able little respect to social distancing, creates an opportunity or a challenge to make sure that we work in the method allows us to protect that. So think about shift work, think about spreading out a bit. And so that's been one area of impact. Fortunately, the customers and those of us serving these customers have been working very, very closely together to make sure that we continue to support the mission that are incredibly critical while protecting the well-being of our employees. And so that's an example of where impact exists. And then, as Charlie mentioned, there is just some tempo type things. So one example is, in the FAA we do training for air traffic controllers. There is not a lot of activity right now as it relates to commercial flying. And so that's an area where we have seen a slowdown. And so that's another area of impact. So we have certainly seen those types of impacts. For the most part, though, the work that we do continues. And it just continues, in some cases, we do work hand-in-glove with the customer. We are on customer site. We are on our site because that's where the work has to get done. But…

Okay. That is very helpful. It does. And then I am wondering just on the Engility side. Can you just talk about the revenue synergies, the extent to which you have recognized or realized any at this point as you guys look at it internally? What have you won that you couldn't have won independently? Or is that opportunity still in front of you, do you think?

Yes. So a couple of comments. One, we fully integrated the Engility business with the SAIC business upon closing that acquisition. And so, as we now in year two of that, we don't really look at the business from what was Engility or could have been or what was SAIC. We look at collectively. An example I can give you is, EDIS is a great example of one where coming together, obviously, we were able to secure that win and deliver at this juncture. The other thing I will tell you, as we look at it probably in broader conversations, so space is an example where the two of us together are so much stronger in serving the space mission. And that continues to be a very, very robust part of our pipeline and part of our strategy. And so I know that probably didn't get to exactly what you are looking for, but I can tell you that the revenue synergies we see as a result of that acquisition are in the portfolio development in some critical areas like the intelligence community, like the space mission that we are seeing growth.

You have a question from the line of Edward Caso with Wells Fargo.

Hi. Good evening. Thanks. I was just looking for some clarification here on the COVID-19 impact in the guidance. The support in the CARES Act goes through September 30. So are you assuming that the arrangement will go to then and by that point all the adjusted work plans will go away. Is that with the assumption is in the guide?

That is basically the assumption. However, we do believe some of this will be carried till the end of the year, which should, potentially the CARES Act could be extended or not, but our assumption is, most of this risk is in the first half of the year or till the time that the CARES Act end. But we believe we still have some COVID impact till the end of the year that's not covered.

And I guess the second question is, the client, historically, the client generally, has been reluctant to do things out of the Greater DC, do things off client sites. Now that we are sort of into the back to business, sort of as usual and clients are starting to see what are lessons learned, do you sense any break in that unwillingness to consider alternative models?

Yes. That's a great question. And I have actually had that specific conversation with several customers over the course of the last 12 weeks or so. And I think you are exactly right. I think there is an appreciation and a willingness to look at different ways to deliver work. We have many customers that would never have contemplated being able to do the types of work they do in a remote fashion. And fortunately, working hand-in-glove with them, helping create some of the technology-based solutions and demonstrating that we can in fact be as successful in a different delivery model than what they are accustomed to, if there is a silver lining maybe that's one of them, this challenging way which we are working. So I do believe that as we go forward, it's an opportunity for us to look at different bases around the U.S., being able to bring in talent from across the country and in some cases being able to reduce the cost or improve profitability as it relates to different talent mix. So I guess, a great question and it's something that we are talking about and I do believe could have kind of a sustained rhythm going forward.

Great. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Akers with Barclays.

Hi. Thanks. Good evening. I wondered if you could comment a little bit about your thoughts on kind of the longer term demand environment post-COVID? Are there certain areas of the budget that you think you could target that may be sort of higher priority offers and sort of clear offer? I guess I just think about positioning that portfolio in the best go forward?

Yes. Great questions. So we are very fortunate to have a diversified portfolio across the customers we serve as well as what we do. And I think that that continues to serve us well and will continue to serve us well in the months and years to come. As I think about the potential of where we could see increased interest as we lean forward, certainly there has been appreciation that the digital transformation, the IT modernization, the leverage of cloud technologies and all of that that enables organizations to work in a different environment has certainly become more important collectively across the federal landscape. And so I think that's an area of opportunity. We are very, very well positioned to continue to serve the customers in that regard and bring solutions to bear that allow them to meet some of those objectives. So that would be one example where we could see increased interest, increased funding to be able to solve some of the challenges that exist in a more traditional IT back office. And so that would certainly be an example. Cyber, you know the way that cyber feeds in being able to manage the cybersecurity infrastructure in a distributed model certainly is an area that's getting a lot of attention and focus as well.

Got it. Thanks. And then I guess if you could update us on, I guess, thoughts on working capital. You had talked in the past about may be trying to improve DSOs. How much room is sort of still left on that?

Yes. Good question Matt. So we are very pleased with the DSOs of 60 days that we had in the quarter and that was also reflective in the fact that people are working from home collecting and billing and going through that cycle. So I am actually very pleased with that. So we are looking to maintain that level of DSOs for the remainder of the year and our team has done a great job of adjusting to this environment. So I would say that's our target looking forward.

Got it. Okay. Thanks guys.

Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Tobey Sommer with SunTrust.

Thank you. I wanted to ask a question about the new award IDIQs, the 50% that's new business. What's sort of the arc and the cadence of that new business ramping in coming quarters? What do you think it will be at this stage?

Well, I think some of the single award IDIQs have started. FSG-80, for example, Air Force EDIS and those are ramping up about now a little bit slower than we had initially hoped for, particularly with the supply chain, FSG-80, just because of the operational tempo. But I would say that we are on track as before except for the COVID related on these ramps. And I know there is a lot of focus on our team to transition quickly to get these ramped up. And we are just very pleased that we are in this position that we are to having won these and now it's transitioning and booking revenue. So good question.

And then my follow-up is, based on your cash flow outlook, when will your leverage be at a level that you can reassess your capital deployment priorities? And then specifically, could you kind of speak to the company's exposure in the public health arena and whether that would be an area of focus?

I will take the first one on this one. So we did make the $125 million voluntary debt payment last week. Based on our outlook, we believe we can make another $200 million of voluntary debt payments, if we so choose to and we will evaluate that as we go through the year. So that would be a total of $325 million of voluntary debt combined with the $75 million of mandatory. So it is about $75 million more of debt repayments then we had initially planned. And that would take our leverage down to quite a bit of an improvement given the fact that when we closed Unisys Federal, we were at 4.4 times and this would be really cutting out a lot of that off in 3.6, 3.7 type of range by the end of the year. And then we feel very confident getting to the 3.0 times net debt to EBITDA by the end of fiscal 2022. So I would say that we are focused on continuing to repay debt this year and we will reevaluate next year as far as capital deployment any changes there.

Yes. And this is Nazzic. So I will touch briefly on the public sector health market. Certainly, it is getting a lot of attention as we sit here today. Over the course of the last couple of years, as I have talked about, the priority, if and when we were to look at external, that was one of the areas that I gave as an example. We do not have a significant portfolio serving that part of our market. And it has been and continues to be something of interest. Now the good news is that we do have solutions that we can take to that market today. And so, if you think about public sector health and their need to modernize their system, their need to go through digital transformation, those solutions that we have can serve that market and do serve that market and will continue to do so. But as it relates to the deep domain expertise, that would be something as we look forward in the months and years to come as that's an opportunity to not just organically but potentially inorganically look to be able to complement that.

Thank you.

And your next question comes from the line of Louie DiPalma with William Blair.

Nazzic. Charles and Shane, good afternoon.

Hello.

Hi Louie.

Nazzic, you referenced your Engility space asset. Last week, SpaceX completed an exciting mission as part of NASA's commercial crew program. You are obviously one of the largest providers for NASA and the Space Force. What are your thoughts about the future budget plans for the Space Force, NASA and the moon mission? Do you think that there's bipartisan support there?

I certainly can't begin to predict what could happen with whether it's a new administration or even the existing administration down the road. I can tell you that we are very fortunate to serve that customer and to serve these critical missions. And our team takes great pride in it. We bring a tremendous amount of great engineering and related IT work to support the mission. So at this juncture, they are getting good support. At this juncture, they are getting big awards afforded the budget to help serve their mission and we are very, very happy part of that.

Thanks. And Charles, can you quantify the amount of integration and restructuring costs for the Unisys acquisition that remains for the rest of the year?

Well, it's pretty small. I can't -- let's see -- less than $10 million.

He asked Unisys.

Yes. Unisys Federal, right? Unisys?

Yes.

Let me back to you on that one because I am not exactly sure. I don't want to give you the wrong number here. We have some acquisition and integration related still to Engility, a very small part of that. And then we have Unisys Federal of which, a large part of that was taken acquisition and integration in the first quarter. So we would like to follow-up with you and get back to you more specifically on that.

This is Shane. I think in total for the year, between the two efforts, it still remains $60 million for the full year. And we will get this breakout.

Great. Thanks. Thanks Shane and thanks everybody.

Thank you.

You have another question from the line of Jon Raviv with Citigroup.

Hi Jon.

Hi. Thanks so much for taking the follow-up here. I just wanted to ask you earlier, Nazzic. Nazzic, any sort of perspective on crating that role for Dee Dee and bringing her on? I mean it's a pretty notable hire, someone with a long career at a competitor involved in a group, driving a lot of change in that other company. What are your plans for SAIC? I know you have previously talked about some pivots that you guys are looking to make. So what are you looking for out of this particular change?

A great question. So as you know, as we looked at the priorities of the company, the strategy of the company, I have really reinforced one of my top three priorities is to pivot us to profitable organic growth and in working with the leadership team, we decided that having somebody who we all wake up every day focused on it but who really looked across the enterprise, across the customer groups, across the solutions and technology group to really help us strengthen our position and strengthen our resolve and focus on growth will be a terrific position and money well spent. And so as I think about it, it really is to continue to strengthen the leadership team and bring on somebody like Dee Dee and we are thrilled that she joined us to really help us strengthen our commitment, strengthen our resolve, bring us some best practices as we continue our journey on driving growth.

You have another question from the line of Cai von Rumohr with Cowen & Co.

Thanks so much. So you had $33 million of the D&A in the first quarter, flat year-over-year, even though you had those seven weeks of Unisys. How come it wasn't higher and where should we model D&A for the full year?

Yes. So Cai, let we give you just some general guidance on this. So depreciation and amortization for the full year is about $175 million, $135 million is amortization of intangibles, $35 million is depreciation.

Okay. And how come it wasn't higher in the first quarter, given that you had Unisys for half of the quarter?

Yes. I am not sure why that is. I would have to get back to you on that, Cai. Let me give you a couple of other just kind of guidance assumptions here that we have. The tax rate, we are assuming for the full year is 23% to 25%. We are also assuming interest expense of $31 million to $32 million per quarter. And we are assuming in that guidance share count in average of 58.7 million year-end diluted shares. And I will get back to you as far as the depreciation and amortization on Q1.

Your final question comes from the line of Gavin Parsons with Goldman Sachs.

Hi guys. Thanks for the follow-up. Do you expect AMCOM and TADS to the protested and is there any risk to your guidance if those go into an extended protest cycle like you experienced last year? Thanks.

Gavin, the good news and I am happy to report they are both out of their protest cycle.

And there are currently no other questions. I would now like to turn the call back to Shane with any closing remarks.

Thank you very much for your participation in SAIC's first quarter fiscal year 2021 earnings call. This concludes the call and we thank you for your continued interest in SAIC.

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.