Martin F. Roper
Management
Sure. We initially launched Angry Orchard in September of 2011 in New England, and basically tested it out, and based on its reception, we decided to go national in April of last year. For much of last year, we were pretty constrained on the availability of the apples that we needed, wanted to use in Angry Orchard, and at the end of last year, we actually discontinued some – temporarily discontinued some styles in order to support the marketplace. So last year, we saw a first quarter which was basically New England in months four through six, and then national launch for the rest of the country sort of months one through nine. And what we've just seen in the first quarter this year is New England year-on-year and national months 10 through 12. I think it's sad to say that when we launch a brand, we don't necessarily get that big tidal wave of pipeline filled, we certainly get pipeline filled but it's taken us 12 months to get national ACV around 50% or whatever the public IRI number is. And by contrast looking at some competitive products launched in the last two months from the big brewers, they already had ACV above that in a month and a half. Now that just goes to scale of those companies, their relationships with the retailers and the muscle and perhaps exactly how the sets are made. So, we're still building distribution, and because that's a slow build process, certainly some of the cider shipments are pipeline filled, certainly some of the cider shipments in the first quarter were a reaction to us not having any juice in the fourth quarter and basically having our wholesalers down in inventory levels that none of us were happy with. So I suppose we built it slowly. We haven't yet got a good data on year on year growth rates, but all we really have is New England first quarter versus first quarter last year, and even then, we didn't have the penetration and distribution from our New England launch because we haven't produced enough cider to support it this time last year. So, in answering your second part of your question, which is ongoing growth, it's really hard to tell because we don't yet have year-on-year numbers and because it's been a slow build, all the growth rates look fantastic. If you look at the IRI public information, the growth rates are huge, but we don't know when it's going to stop and we don't know what the endpoint is. So I know that doesn't help you that much but if you think about our trends over Q2, Q3, Q4, the comparisons on the cider front get harder and harder.