Dave Burwick
Analyst · Jefferies.
Well, I can start and then Jim or Frank can jump in. I think in terms of the category, so it is kind of that S-curve moment. And I think what makes it even harder to recognize is because of all the weird overlaps in COVID, first stock-up, second stock-up, on-premise opening, et cetera. But if you look at the household penetration, so year-to-date, the penetration is still growing in the category and so is the buy rate. So you have a lot of people who come in, I think year-to-date this is -- I'm using numerator data for those who care, but it's up 7% household penetration increase. Now a year ago, it was 73%. So that's the inflection point. It's still growing but it's slowed down. Buy rates are also increasing. So people who are in the category and staying in were actually, they're buying more. So that's good. So I think -- my sense is, I mean, we obviously went from close to triple digits, nine months ago or whatever to high double digits. Now it's low double digits. And we think it will stay and we're banking it's going to stay there. We think it could go up a bit. We said that 20% to 50%, again, that's not our forecast. That's all the experts’ forecast and that seems reasonable to us given all the things we've seen. So yes, I think it's going to make a difference really to getting normalized. We'll know more, obviously, as we get through the summer. But again, there are too many brands out there, not enough shelf space, too much focus, too much sameness. I think this is -- I really believe this firmly that in categories like this where there's high growth and everybody jumps in, it's not just in our industry, the more people -- the more companies try to create something that's different, they create nonessential differences and benefits. And the problem is everything becomes the same. And it does, from a consumer perspective, look the same. And I think a lot of those brands will be gone. So I think retailers are seeing that now, it’s going to -- it started happening in the fall. Still the top two brands are [70] share of the category, more or less, and that will continue. So I think the smoke will start to clear and we're seeing -- what we're hearing from the other third party folks, they're saying basically CAGR 15% to 25% over the next few years coming out of it. But I might -- I don't want to go there yet, let's just get through the next three to six months and see where if it ends up where we think it will. We obviously have more information now than we did even three months ago, a lot more and hopefully, we're closer. And Kevin, I don't know if that came close to answering to your question.