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Seacoast Banking Corporation of Florida (SBCF)

Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Fri, Jan 25, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Seacoast’s Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call. My name is Christine and I will be your operator for today’s call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Before we begin, I have been asked to direct your attention to the statement contained at the end of the press release regarding forward-looking statements. Seacoast will be discussing issues that constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities and Exchange Act, and their comments today are intended to be covered within the meaning of that Act. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Dennis Hudson, Chairman and CEO, Seacoast Bank. Mr. Hudson, you may begin.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Thank you, Operator. Good morning. And thank you everybody for joining us today for Seacoast’s fourth quarter 2018 conference call. Our press release, which we released yesterday after the market closed and our investor presentation can be found on the investor portion of our website under the title Presentations. With us today is Chuck Shaffer, our Chief Financial Officer, who will discuss our financial and operating results. Also with us today are; Julie Kleffel, our Community Banking Executive; Chuck Cross, our Commercial Banking Executive; David Houdeshell, our Chief Risk Officer; and Jeff Lee, our Chief Marketing and Analytics Officer. Our fourth quarter results were outstanding, giving us as we enter 2019 the best fundamentals in our history. The objective -- our objective last year was to strengthen our franchise by continuing to execute our balanced growth strategy. We did so, growing organically and by acquisition in 2018 as we maintained our prudent loan granularity and risk controls, and continued our focus on reducing the cost to serve our customers. Turning to the fourth quarter’s results, we grew adjusted net revenue 14% to roughly $73 million and achieved adjusted net income of nearly $24 million, up 38% from last year. We reported $0.47 in adjusted earnings per share, an increase of 27% year-over-year. This was driven by strong loan growth, including record commercial originations, expense control and net interest margin expansion. We achieved fourth quarter adjusted return on tangible assets of 1.49% and adjusted return on tangible common equity of 15.4%. Both substantially better numbers than last year and are well within reach of our achieving our below 50% efficiency ratio target as we exit 2020. Our strong 2018 performance positions us well to meet our Vision 2020 objectives. Our successful growth initiatives last year include the acquisition of First Green,…

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Thank you, Dennis, and thank you all for joining us this morning. As I provide my comments, I will reference the fourth quarter and full year 2018 earnings slide deck, which can be found at seacostbanking.com. Starting with slide four, we finished the year on a strong note with excellent performance across our business units, while also completing the First Green integration. Our team did an outstanding job consolidating five overlapping branches, while also successfully onboarding First Green’s customers and associates. We continue to reinvest legacy operating expense into growth and expect sustain momentum into 2019. Our balance sheet is well-positioned to support this growth, we remain on a clear path to achieve our Vision 2020 objectives. Turning to the fourth quarter results, GAAP net income grew to $0.31 per diluted share and adjusted net income grew to 38% year-over-year to $23.9 million, or $0.47 per diluted share. We reported 1.49% adjusted return on tangible assets and a 15.4% adjusted return on tangible common equity. And sequentially, we saw increased tangible book value by $0.32 per share to $12.33 per share, overcoming the initial dilutive effect of the First Green acquisition. Highlights for the quarter include. First, we had a record quarter for commercial originations, which increased 22% sequentially and 21% from the prior year, the result of a robust Florida economy and expansion of our Commercial Banking team. Second, we delivered strong annualized organic loan growth of 13%. This growth was driven across all geographies with new bankers coming online in both Broward and Tampa. We also on-boarded the new First Green Commercial Banking team in the quarter. We continue to focus on developing relationships with operating company, as this strategy delivers greater granularity in our loan portfolio, generates full service relationships, which include demand deposits, and generates opportunities…

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Thank you, Chuck. And we’d be pleased to take a few questions at this point. So, Operator, could you proceed forward?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from David Feaster of Raymond James. Please go ahead.

David Feaster

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Good morning.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Hi, Dave.

David Feaster

Analyst

So I’d like to start on the NIM, your core NIM expansion was impressive. Could you just walk through some of what drove that, how much was from the September hike in the LIBOR move, how much do you think was from First Green and some -- from the remixing of earning assets? And I guess as a follow-on, what kind of rate outlook are you assuming in your NIM guidance and do you think you can see NIM expansion exclusive of additional hikes?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Sure. Let me -- I will start with the expansion quarter-over-quarter. I would say there’s really three key factors. If you look at just removing the purchase accretion increase quarter-over-quarter due to the acquisition, it was really -- we did get a rate increase that certainly was beneficial. But importantly, as we have talked in the past, we have the ability to continue to remix earning assets. We sold off some securities at a very modest loss and we allow -- continue to allow the securities portfolio to decline, at the same time, we saw robust loan growth that certainly supported the margin. As well as, when we acquired the First Green transaction, their loan yield that came on the book yields in that portfolio were higher than we originally modeled and so that supported sort of a start rate that was beneficial as well. But I will point out, it’s important as we move forward, that having five sort of asset classes between commercial lending, mortgage banking, SBA consumer and small business lending really is allowing us to have some flexibility on what we pick and how we put things in the portfolio. So that’s helping manage the loan yield as we go -- as we move forward. As I mentioned in my comments, we continue to see increased loan spreads, that something we are keenly focused on, we are keenly focused on pricing. So I think it’s a combination of all that, but it’s something we -- I think we are well positioned to move forward. On the guidance around NIM, we assume no rate hikes in that guidance.

David Feaster

Analyst

Okay. Okay. That’s terrific. Thanks. On loan growth, your organic growth was terrific. But given the inclusion of First Green, it’s a little hard to tell exactly from our perspective what drove the growth. Could you just give us some insight into that by segment and region, too?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Yeah. Sure. And maybe Chuck, you can make a few comments on this. But I will just say broadly, when we put out the high -- the guide of high-single digits last quarter, we were assuming a shorter run rate. We saw the commercial business bank really come online in the fourth quarter, our commercial. I would also say that the team and Chuck can really add to this, but the team we brought on kind of hit the ground running. So we are seeing growth kind of across the full geography, Broward, Orlando, Tampa and it’s helping the expansionary efforts we have been putting in place and I think that continues to help loan growth moving into the next year. Chuck, you got anything you want to add to that?

Chuck Cross

Analyst

Yeah. David, this is Chuck Cross. I think it was Chuck Schaffer who said, we saw the growth both in Consumer, Small Business and Commercial Banking, and we are seeing in the growth in the markets where we have invested and added to staff. And as Chuck said, the bankers that we hired in Fort Lauderdale and Tampa have come on pretty strong, and that bodes well for the pipelines of growth building for this year also.

David Feaster

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. Last one for me, expenses, you talked about 70% of the $7 million in savings that have already been realized, could you just talk about the timing of the remaining savings? And how much of the expenses from the 10 hires are already in your expense run rate. Just give the seasonal -- remind us of the seasonal impacts in the first quarter?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Sure. Yeah. And I gave you some guidance there of $39 million to $40 million on interest expense…

David Feaster

Analyst

Yeah.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

… exclusive of the amortization of intangibles, but that guidance includes those 10 hires. They are probably on early in the quarter and so they are in the number.

David Feaster

Analyst

Yeah.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

And looking forward on the cost side, what we have done at this point is identified pretty much all of the $7 million, like I said, we got almost $5 million of it.

David Feaster

Analyst

Yeah.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

We got another $1.9 million, but we expect to realize that pretty ratably over next year. But as I mentioned in our plan, we plan to reinvest that in growth oriented activities that really support growth moving beyond 2019.

David Feaster

Analyst

Okay. So keeping kind of expenses on a quarterly basis relatively flattish throughout…

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Again, that’s not the guidance we have provided last quarter and that remains still today.

David Feaster

Analyst

Okay. Terrific. Thanks, guys.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Stephen Scouten of Sandler O’Neill. Please go ahead.

Graham Dick

Analyst

Hey, guys. This is Graham Dick on for Stephen today. How are you doing?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Hi, Graham.

Graham Dick

Analyst

All right. So just one question here for you all, how are you thinking about mortgage production and realizing the revenues through fees rather than just portfolio in the loans?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Yeah. No. That’s a big objective of ours. Late last year we began rotating more toward salables. We moved -- part of that include -- was inclusive of us introducing a number of salable products to our originators. We are kind of in the middle of doing that now. But as we move out over the rest of the year, our expectations is for that to continue to improve and that’s important for delivering bottomline returns for the business unit as we move through 2019. So that is one of our key focuses as we move to the coming year.

Graham Dick

Analyst

All right. Great. That’s it for me guys. Congrats on the quarter.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Thanks, Graham.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Michael Young of SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Michael Young

Analyst

Hey. Good morning.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Hey, Michael.

Michael Young

Analyst

I appreciate all the color on the guidance, I thought it was very clear. But just curious kind of as you look out, you provided this guidance in 3Q last year, basically a little earlier than most other banks. Is there anything being shifted materially in terms of areas that might be more of a challenge or easier to achieve given some of the hiring, just kind of generally curious what your thoughts are now at this point versus where you are when you provided the guidance originally?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Yeah. I think generally on a -- at a high level, Michael, we still feel basically the same as we felt in third quarter. We, 2019 looks like a robust year for us, 2018 was a great year, we got great momentum coming into the coming year. So I don’t know if there’s anything materially different other than we continue to focus on kind of the key pieces around remixing expense out of sort of legacy cost structure and into growth as we move for the transformation around that, focused on building good core loan and deposit growth as we move through the year and a big piece of our investments in 2019, as we have talked about in the back half of 2018, is really building out Tampa and Broward. Those markets are incredibly growth oriented. It’s really the customers that we want to focus on. It’s a lot of operating companies in those markets and so we will continue to invest in bankers, and growing out that footprint. And as a result, we will continue to move forward and I think increase and improve the lending we are doing to operating companies.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Yeah.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

As we go through time, that becomes critical as we look forward to the environment ahead.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Yeah.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

And that’s always been a big part of our strategy, and it’s working, and we are going to continue to press forward there, and as Chuck said, we have lot of flexibility as a result both across the geography as well as the asset classes to kind of think about how we continue to improve NIM as we look out over time.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

And I would say just leaning on that, maybe one thing that’s a little different. It’s just a keen focus on returns and mix, that is like…

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Right.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

…key to us in 2019 is getting good spreads on lending, making sure we are hitting strong risk adjusted returns and that’s even more of focus.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Beginning, I think, the middle of last year, we began looking at areas that we wanted to invest less in and transfer that investment into areas that were likely to perform better in the environment we see at.

Michael Young

Analyst

Okay. And can you just remind me, Chuck, the seasonality as some of the deposit growth and outflows and then also similarly on the loan side. I think that caught some people off guard last year, but just wanted to know how that clearly reflected this year.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Yeah. Sure. No. I will talk to that. So generally what happens on the loan side is, well, the fourth quarter is usually stronger than the first quarter as we sort of clean our pipeline to get geared up for the coming year. That’s sort of a natural seasonal trend and we will probably see that this year as well. And on the deposit side, the first quarter is our strongest quarter for deposit growth, and it kind of builds up through the first quarter and to the second, it begins to decline through the summer and then rebuilds late in the year.

Michael Young

Analyst

Okay. And then just last one for me on the kind of fully digital end-to-end process that you guys are putting in place on the lending side. Can you just walk through kind of when that should be up and running? And then is there any real initial kind of income statement impact that we should see around that or is that just going to be a kind of slow flywheel grinding higher, I guess, over time?

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

No. That’s a key focus for us, and the guidance that we provided is inclusive of that project. But it will probably launch -- our goal is to get it launched by about June of this year, and probably, see the full benefit of that late into this year and into next year. So it’s a nine-month implementation, a lot of training and things like that going on. But it is priority one for our and sort of our technology strategy to get that in place.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

It’s kind of interesting you pair that together with some of the other competencies that we have developed over the last few years, particularly in marketing. The work we have done around customer analytics but you have seen, Michael, and so forth, you pair those two together and you create something that could really be remarkable.

Michael Young

Analyst

All right. Well, thanks, guys. Congrats on a good quarter.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Thanks, Mike.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Jeff Cantwell of Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Hi. Good morning.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Hi, Jeff. Good morning.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to -- I know these won’t be the usual things that I ask you about like NIM or loan growth or credit quality. But I wanted to ask you a couple of questions related to your technology and your digital strategy. But I guess I should provide some context for my questions first. So there’s significant focus in the market right now on the Fiserv-First Data deal and how that combination could actually impact financial institutions in new and better ways in the future. So maybe, first off, the high level, I am want to ask you how might a combination of Fiserv-First Data eventually benefit financial institutions such as yours. Do you have any thoughts there, I just would love to get your perspective on what you think the deal ultimately means for community banks, I thought you might have some interesting perspectives to share? Thanks.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Yeah. I am going to ask Jeff Bray, who’s in the room with us to maybe make a few comments. Jeff runs our service operations and technology groups. So Jeff, well.

Jeff Bray

Analyst

Sure. Absolutely. The initial thought around it was the advantage that the merger will create in the payment space, particularly on both from a banking standpoint and a merchant standpoint with the amount of data that that corporation, combined corporation will have will probably create a lot of new products and services that will be delivered out into both the merchant space, as well as the banking space As it relates to us, impact immediately, we have a relationship with both firms today. We have a relation with Fiserv through a PC lender, which they acquired last year, and we do have a relationship with First Data through the merchant services program that we sell to with our customers to First Data. So that, obviously, is going to tip the scales around where the services are going to belong to once the merger is completed. For me, I think it’s going to enable -- hopefully enable Fiserv to provide better capabilities that would take cost out, would simplify how interactions are made between us, our employees and our customers through their tool and tool stack. I think they hold --I think it’s a pretty aggressive move on their part especially in the payment space and I am really excited to kind of see what comes out of that with their $500 million investment that they are putting into innovation over the next five years.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Thanks very much. I appreciate that. And just a follow-up to that topic, you have plenty of business banking customers and for those business banking customers, where do you think a combination like Fiserv plus First Data might drive improvement in terms of how you serve those small businesses. I guess the way we think about it is the ultimate goal, right, is for those providers to help make a bank’s relationship with his business customers more seamless or better or more impactful in a rapidly sort of rapidly changing technology environment. So is there anything between core account processing and First Data’s platform like Clover’s point of sale or adding STAR or any of other First Data’s other capabilities that you think could be impactful in terms of how you serve small businesses? Thanks.

Jeff Bray

Analyst

Absolutely. I think, obviously, a strategic -- one of the strategic plays is what happens with Clover and the Clover platform. I think that -- it will be interesting to see what Fiserv ultimately does with First Data through that. For me, in terms of being a bank and participating in enabling the ability for small business and business banking to be able to move data more efficiently, more effectively, I think it’s something that will be impacted with this merger. It will hopefully bring better holistic tools and tool sets through services that we could acquire from that institution that would put us in better engagement with the business banking and small business provider as it relates to a lot of things from data about their customers, how they use that data and how it helps us serve those businesses better through accumulation of that data and the transparency of that data. So I think there is tremendous value. Then when you align that to the payment hub that will probably come out of the deal, you really create some efficiencies that can be very beneficial for both the bank, working with those services as well with the banking clients like the small business or business bank.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Thanks for that.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

I will just add that what is happening and will continue to happen in terms of innovation in and around payments is going to be a critical competitive issue, I think, for banks generally. And when you look at some of the very, very large banks, the trillion dollar players that have developed their own payments platforms and the like, I think, it was probably a good move to combine those two organizations together to better support some of the mid-sized banks out there. So interesting question. Thanks. Thanks a lot, Jeff.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Appreciate it. If I could just squeeze one last here, I appreciate your time here and thank you for patiently answering my questions on your digital strategy. But my last question is, what do you think of Square as an emerging competitor for deposits? I guess, I am asking both on the consumer side and with business deposits. We seem to be at an interesting point in time where fintechs care a lot more about providing bank like services and so I figured if any bank would have a strong opinion on this, it will be you guys given how much you have invested in your own digital strategy. So I would just appreciate any thoughts you have on Square and whether you see them as a future competitor? Thanks.

Jeff Lee

Analyst

It’s Jeff Lee. I will weigh in on that. I mean, we certainly have our eye on that as well as a number of other companies along those lines. I mean, it’s fertile territory, I mean, it’s all a battle for who is going to own most of the customer and now more folks are into the fray. I think it’s still a little early to see how it’s going to net out, because we obviously have relationships with a lot of businesses, it’s something we have got to remain very focused on and it’s trying to get the entire relationship of the customers that we serve which is kind of one our critical points.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Yeah.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Thanks again and…

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

[Inaudible]

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

… congrats on that.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff.

Jeff Cantwell

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is from Steve Moss of B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead.

Steve Moss

Analyst

Hey. Good morning, guys.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Hi, Steve.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Good morning.

Steve Moss

Analyst

Just want to touch on the margin again. It seems like the guidance implies basically a flat core margin and quarter-over-quarter, and just kind of wondering given we had a rate hike in December and LIBOR has moved up, kind of what are just the underlying drivers there?

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Yeah. The gives and takes are the flat guidance, we could be but we will see how things come together. We got -- we will see some expansion in investment yields. The loan book, we will see where purchase accretion goes, it’s really hard to model that as we move forward. We had almost 28 basis points I believe were purchased accretion in the fourth quarter or modeling something closer to 25 in the first quarter. So that’s some offset there but we will -- again, that’s a volatile outlook and then we have given some guidance around cost deposits. When you push all of that together and given some inversion in the curve that’s occurred, we think it’s just reasonable and prudent to guide to something similar in Q1 to Q4.

Steve Moss

Analyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And I am just kind of wondering about purchase accounting accretion in the second half of 2019, Chuck. I know it’s hard to model but I am wondering is there a step-down, a meaningful step-down in the purchase accounting accretion at some point later this year or is that more of a 2020 type event?

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Yeah. I wouldn’t say, later this year, there’s any meaningful step-down, as you know, it depends on the burn down of the portfolio and that takes years. So it will be a while before we start to see any step-down there, but it is tough to model and it will depend on how fast that portfolio pays off.

Steve Moss

Analyst

Okay. That’s fair. And on M&A here, kind of wondering what are your updated thoughts after First Green and just what is the activity or scene in the market these days?

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Well, there’s still market out there. There have been a number of transactions announced recently, small transactions, amazingly purchases by credit unions here in the state which still astounds me from a tax standpoint. But there are still conversations out there. We have our list, and we maintain contact with lots of different parties as we go through time. We are in a good position. If the stars align to move forward and if everything makes sense from a value creation standpoint, we wouldn’t hesitate to move forward.

Chuck Shaffer

Analyst

Yeah. And I would say, Steve, just if you are thinking about things from a high level, there’s really been no change in momentum around conversations or activity. We still see a lot of targets out there, still have a lot of conversations and so we will see how things come together in the coming year.

Steve Moss

Analyst

All right. Thank you very much.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Terrific.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I will now turn the call back over to Dennis Hudson for closing remarks.

Dennis Hudson

Analyst

Thank you, Operator. And again, thanks everybody for being with us today. We had a terrific quarter and we look forward to updating you next quarter.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And thank you, ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.