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Solo Brands, Inc. (SBDS)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 13, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Hello everyone and welcome to Solo Brands, Inc. Second Quarter Fiscal 2022 Financial Results Call. My name is [Seb] and I will be the operator on the call today. [Operator Instructions] We will now hand the floor over to Bruce Williams to begin.

Bruce Williams

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining the call to discuss Solo Brands' second quarter 2022 results, which we released this morning and can be found on the Investor Relations section of our website at investors.solobrands.com. Today's call will be hosted by Chief Executive Officer, John Merris; and Chief Financial Officer, Somer Webb. Before we get started, I want to remind everyone that statements made on this call and the earnings release contain forward-looking statements regarding our financial outlook, business plans and objectives and other future events and developments, including statements about the market potential of our products, anticipated financial performance, and our goals and strategies. These forward looking statements now involve substantial risks and uncertainties, some of which may be outside of our control, and that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such statements. These risks and uncertainties include those describing the company's earnings release, and other filings with the SEC speak only as of today's date. In addition, our discussion today includes references to certain supplemental non-GAAP financial measures, including net income as adjusted, diluted earnings per share as adjusted, adjusted gross profit, adjusted gross margin, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin, which should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for our GAAP results. We use these non-GAAP measures in evaluating our ability to generate earnings, provide consistency and comparability with our past performance and facilitate period-to-period comparison of our core operating results. Reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures and definitions of the referenced non-GAAP measures are included in our earnings release and our filings with the SEC, which are available on the Investors portion of our website @investors.solobrands.com. Now, I would like to turn the call over to John.

John Merris

Analyst

Thank you, Bruce, and thank you for joining the call to discuss our second quarter 2022 results. I'd like to begin by welcoming Somer Webb. She joined us in May as our CFO and I'm grateful for the partnership that she and I have created in such a short time. Today I'll be sharing a quick summary of our Q2 results followed by an update on our strategic initiatives. I will then turn the call to Somer for a more detailed update on our financial performance. Following Somer's update, I will wrap up with additional comments on the current market and how we feel about our ability to operate in this environment. Our second quarter results reflect improving sales trends as we move into our seasonally stronger months of May and June driven by a direct to consumer channel. During the second quarter total revenue grew 53% to $136 million compared to $88.7 million in the prior year alongside healthy gross margin. I want to thank our operations, sales and marketing teams who did a great job managing supply chain and promotions to deliver such strong gross margins all while generating solid top line growth. Our direct to consumer sales increased 63.2% to $116 million compared to $71.1 million in the prior year with sales strengthening as the quarter progress. Sales in our wholesale channel increased 13.1% to 20 million compared to $17.7 million in the prior year, although our international business still makes up a small percentage of our overall business, we were pleased with the increased consumer demand we experienced in this channel and believe there is meaningful international growth ahead. We are also happy to share that our key retention and acquisition metrics remain healthy with referral rates and repeat purchase rates both above 40%. And our…

Somer Webb

Analyst

Thanks, John. Good morning, everyone. I'm extremely excited to be with you today as the CFO of Solo Brands. While I've only been here a short period of time, I've been impressed with the caliber of team and the passion of the entire organization. Today, I will walk you through our second quarter results, and then provide some commentary on our outlook for 2022. As John mentioned, we had several bright spots this quarter, and our focus continues to be on building a robust growth company with a long term mindset. For the second quarter, our sales came in ahead of our expectations as a business gain momentum throughout the quarter. Our gross margins remain healthy as we maintained a consistent level of promotions relative to last year. As discussed on our previous earnings calls, we increased investments in data, product innovation and international expansion. While these increased investments put some pressure on our EBITDA margin this quarter we believe these investments in the long term growth initiatives are prudent at this stage of our growth cycle and will pay off beginning in 2023. Net sales increased 53.3% to $136 million, compared to $88.7 million in the prior year period. Sales in the second quarter were boosted by contribution from Q3, 2021 acquisition, and new product launches including Solo Stove Pi and Oru Lake. We saw an increase in total orders of 112.7% while average order value decreased by 32.1%, primarily due to the Chubbies acquisition. Chubbies has a higher level of total orders, but a lower AOB due to the nature of their product offerings relative to the other brands in our portfolio. We continue to see strength across our sales channels, especially B2C, our direct to consumer sales increased 63.2% to $116.1 million compared to $71.1 million in…

John Merris

Analyst

Before opening the call up for Q&A I wanted to take a moment to discuss our business model and how we are thinking about the business in the current environment. Since inception, the vast majority more than 80% plus of our businesses come through our digital direct to consumer channel. This is differentiated from many companies, but what makes us particularly special is that Solo stuff has been profitable since our first year, all while driving growth as a digital direct to consumer brand. Our profitable cash flow generating model affords us the opportunity to continue to invest in long term growth even softer market conditions. By generating the majority of our revenue through our direct to consumer channel, we not only have strong gross margin rates, but as Somer are referenced, we have a highly variable cost structure, which we believe enables us to be more flexible in the face of an economic slowdown. Marketing is a large component of our SG&A and because it is variable in nature, we have a better ability to balance revenue growth and profitability as we enter periods of uncertainty. Our direct to consumer model makes us less dependent on retailers to drive demand because we have invested and continue to invest in customer relationships and a data platform that allows us to communicate directly with our customers to drive conversions. The benefit of this relationship is made even clearer by our high referral rates and repeat purchases that allow us to leverage product innovation to drive profitable growth. Lastly, we also have a very low install base and therefore are not dependent on a replacement cycle to drive sales. Our direct channel model highly variable cost structure and significant room for organic growth differentiate us from other outdoor companies and other digital direct to consumer brands. We are focused on staying nimble and agile even as we continue to grow. As Solo Brands we think big and small. Our customers deserve it and our employees desire it. And this environment and nimble culture wins big because these are changing daily. We're excited for the future and we thank our shareholders for coming on this journey with us. With that, I'll turn the call over back to the operator to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Chris Horvers from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

Chris Horvers

Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, everybody. So my first question is, can you help us more on what's changed on the line relative to your prior [Technical Difficulty] you spoke about momentum in the business. But you also talked about the waiting to the fourth quarter. So you really changing is sort of the guide down on the revenue, really the experts in around fourth quarter growth? And how are you thinking about the direct channel versus the wholesale channel?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes. For sure. Chris. Good morning. Thanks for the question. I'll kick it off and Somer will clean up anything behind me. So the change in topline -- you were breaking up a little bit, but I believe that the focus is specifically on kind of the top line revenue mix, and then the split between quarters. For the back half of the year, what we've done in our guide, is basically take the revenue growth that we saw on the front half of the year, and then we've extrapolated it out. So it's very similar on the back half. So seasonal split doesn't change from historical. So about 40% of revenue coming in Q4 back half overall being 60% to 63% is what we've talked about in the past, that doesn't change. It's just the front half of the year growth slowed. And we've pushed that them forward through the rest of the year. And then, in terms of the I think the second part of your question was wholesale versus B2C and that split continues to remain in that this quarter for Q2 it was roughly 85/15. We continue to kind of work towards what we think is going to be a healthy split of 80/20.

Chris Horvers

Analyst

Got it.

Somer Webb

Analyst

Yes. The other thing I would just add that typically what you're going to see in our business is Q1 and Q3 are going to be probably our heaviest on the wholesale side. And then Q2 and Q4 are going to be heaviest on the B2C side, just find a way that seasonality works. But we do still expect an 85/15 split. And then to John's point, just reemphasizing from a guidance. We started out kind of slow in the first quarter, the momentum has continued to build. But in light of everything that we know that's going on with consumers. We just decided that it was the right move and we chose to take it down and be more conservative.

Chris Horvers

Analyst

Understood. And then can you hear me now? Can you hear me?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes, we can hear you. It's just for some reason, like every third or fourth word, we just lose it. And so if it's an important word, we may have to have you restate the question. But unimportant word will be fine.

Chris Horvers

Analyst

So it's really what's changed on the cost side you're hearing about freight rates come down. You've changed your gross margin outlook pretty, it seems like gross margin is the change to the EBITDA margin. Is that fair? And if so, what's driving the growth margin given that you're seeing freight rates actually recede?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes, so that's not the way we're thinking about it. So gross margins are actually low 60s is kind of where we've been. We were 65 this quarter, but that was in Q2. That was a beat on where we expect it to be. We continue to sell through inventory. Remember, on our freight rates, we had really favorable freight rates for the year that ended April 30, on our freight contracts and we've been talking about freight rates going up. So we actually saw an improvement in gross margins compared to our expectations in Q2 but low 60s is kind of where we've been expecting, I think, 63-ish range or something like that and we're continuing to feel comfortable in that range. So we've said kind of a 60% plus of being north of 60%, is where we expect, where the costs are really coming through, which I think Somer talked about, in her section was you really around a combination of public company costs, slight increase in investments to what we originally planned on the $20 million that we've talked about to accelerate international new product development and then integration. And then lastly, the reality is that over the last couple of years, customer acquisition costs have been artificially low. What companies were planning and thought that they could spend in order to acquire a new customer for the last two years, has kind of created an environment where we've all kind of missed, understood how that's going to flow through when you get into a normalized environment, like we feel like we're in now, where you really understand better what it's going to cost to acquire a new customer. The reality is that what it's going to cost you is more which means that marketing spend is going to go up and so we're seeing is about 15% to 20% closer to 20% increase costs to acquire a new customer and that's really where you're seeing the EBITDA decline is a combination of public company costs, slight increases to the original $20 million of investment in long term growth initiatives we talked about and marketing.

Chris Horvers

Analyst

Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Randy Konik from Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Randy Konik

Analyst

Yes, thanks a lot. Can you hear me?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes, we've got your Randy.

Randy Konik

Analyst

Alright, great. Thanks, guys. So I guess back on the sales outlook for the mid 20s. I know you've got on a full company basis or full portfolio basis. Is there any kind of color you can kind of give us holistically about how you're thinking about the hard goods side of your business versus the soft goods side of the business and within that where do you have more visibility on where the business is performing on the hard goods versus the soft goods right now within the portfolio?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes. Good question. So obviously, we've just talked about an impairment, we're taking ISLE one of the hard goods businesses inside of the portfolio. But if you were to just remove a ISLE from the conversation stand up paddleboards is just what we've seen is that was a competitive space and not as much product differentiation IT. And the other hard good businesses inside of the portfolio with Solo Stove, REI, obviously, it's a different story. And then you have the Chubbies, the beloved Chubbies brand. So if you just take those three and remove ISLE just for sake of the conversation, we're seeing very similar demand trends for both the Chubbies business as well as the other two hard good businesses. So equal year-over-year growth, very similar, at least to where the businesses were performing prior to where they are performing now. So again, outside of ISLE we're not seeing anything outside or abnormal around demand and growth rates across soft goods versus hard goods.

Randy Konik

Analyst

Super helpful. And then I guess Somer question for you. What the markets going to be really focused on with a lot of holding companies reporting, is the market seeing basically almost every company guide down revenue and EBITDA margin expectations? I guess the markets going to kind of think about from here which numbers, which companies are going to continue to cut those numbers in which companies have we seen the cut enough? So what I want to understand on the EBITDA margin side, is you brought up the idea that a lot of your expenses are variable in nature, particularly around marketing. So just wanted to kind of get some perspective on how you're thinking about the ability to kind of to meet that kind of new mid teen EBITDA margin guidance for the year do you have those levers in place and variability and expense structure to kind of navigate and evolve as you get to the balance back part of the year to kind of meet those EBITDA margin, new EBITDA margin expectations? Thanks.

Somer Webb

Analyst

Yes, no, absolutely great question. Yes, as we think about the rest of the year, and marketing is a variable lever, that we are able to kind of throw up and down. In the back half, we do have a really robust new product roadmap. We also are continuing to launch in international markets. We do increase our marketing spend when we release new products, and also in international markets. But as we see, the next couple of months unfold, we're going to keep a watchful eye on our [REI]. So that is really the metric that kind of indicates how healthy that marketing spend is, as we see that it has a return. And we think that it's the right move for both the new product launches and international market expansion, we're going to continue to lean into it. But the reason that we also took down our EBITDA margins is we want the flexibility to be able to lean into those new products and international with that increased spend, but we are going to monitor it and ensure that it's actually a strong investment, and in throttle back when we need to.

Randy Konik

Analyst

Got it. Super helpful. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Robbie Ohmes from Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Robbie Ohmes

Analyst

Hey, good morning. I wanted to follow up on wholesale. [Somer] and John, you can talk about what you're seeing there. It's a scaled back revenue outlook for wholesale as well. What do sell through rates look like with your wholesale partners? Are you still looking to maybe open some new wholesale partners for the Solo Stove? And then I just had a quick follow up.

John Merris

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. And thanks. Thanks for the question, Robbie. Wholesale is, we remain encouraged by wholesale. So you heard me talk about it, we like our model, and that we're not dependent on it. But we sure love our wholesale partners, and they've been really good to us. We're continuing to see, I think I mentioned in my portion of the call just a few minutes ago, a pretty significant store count and footprint increase that we see happening with the Chubbies business, particularly with the exit REI because of some of the brand awareness as well as some of the product innovation that Chubbies has been releasing. Solo Stove. I also mentioned is has released really for this back half of the year to retail exclusives, both in colorways and in bundles that we're very excited about. And that's been of high interest to our retail partner. So we are seeing, again retailers are well you're hearing softness around sell through from a lot of companies right now with retail. The reality is consumers are still buying something, and retailers need to carry some products. And I've been saying this, I've been kind of standing on the soapbox for a while. Great brands, and great products, I think are going to win bigger in this type of environment, because retailers are going to have to be more selective, and make sure that what they're putting on the shelves is what their consumers actually want. And I think that the beloved nature of our brands positions us well, for a continued strong outlook with retail partners. And so yes, the guy is coming down on a split basis equally to wholesale, as we're bringing it down for B2C. But we are still anticipating good strong relationships and expansion with our retail partners, we're just we're going to continue to have a conservative outlook on the back half of the year just because of where the market is right now. And how back weighted seasonally our revenue is there's just, it just seems like a prudent thing to do to take a conservative look.

Robbie Ohmes

Analyst

And then John, can you just walk me through are you discontinuing Solo Stove 1.0 in shifting all the product to 2.0? And kind of how is that process going to work? And how much are you going to be discounting Solo Stove 1.0 a lot. Is that going to be on B2C? Or will the wholesale partners help shift to 2.0? Maybe a little more color on how you see that shift working?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes, great question. So that's right. So 1.0 is going to slowly sell through and then be gone. And then the only product when you buy a Solo Stove Firepit will be the 2.0 so they're not going to be sold in conjunction with each other once 1.0 inventory is depleted. Right now we're in the process of that depletion cycle. So the range for Firepit for 1.0 is nearly completely gone already. Bonfire is close to on its way. We've got a couple of you know key orders that are coming with some retailers and Bonfire 1.0 will basically be depleted very soon, and then we'll have Yukon, which will be the final one. So the way we see Yukon playing out from a sell through standpoint or depletion standpoint, is international we're not launching 2.0 internationally until 1.0 is completely out. So that's one of the strategies. And then the second one has really been to lean on our wholesale retail partners who have been pretty excited and keen to take that product in and sell it in store. So we have up to now when we've launched 2.0 and still had 1.0 put a price difference between the two. So 1.0 is selling for a slight discount to what the 2.0 pricing is at. But again, because of the nature of the cost structure and the cost of goods within those two actually very similar gross margins even what's the price difference between the two.

Robbie Ohmes

Analyst

Got it. That's really helpful. Thanks so much, John.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Kaumil Gajrawala from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Kaumil Gajrawala

Analyst

Hey, guys, good morning.

John Merris

Analyst

Good morning Kaumil.

Kaumil Gajrawala

Analyst

Good morning John. Could you talk a bit about M&A and specifically you have some hard metrics on profitability and have a rough idea on what you want to spend from a multiple perspective on companies with positive EBITDA but we are going through this very different period, maybe it's due to demand to pull forward from COVID and such where there may be companies that are quite significantly under earning. And so are you evolving your thinking in terms of how you look at targets and what some of those sort of base level of criteria is to be something it's interesting to put into your platform?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes. I mean Somer and I both talked a lot about being nimble and being willing to adjust and the reality is, is that you're spot on. The world is changing quickly. The world is changing everywhere, including for founder owned and operated businesses that have been enjoying a pretty easy environment for the last two years, and now are kind of scrambling to figure out what's the new norm. And I think if you were to ask me, what is the thing that we are most focused on, as it pertains to change compared to what we were thinking about before with M&A it is just that it's trying to figure out what is the normal baseline for a target. Where should they in a normal environment be performing? And then how are they performing in relation to that norm. And it's pretty challenging, as you can imagine, I mean, shoot some of the greatest financiers and forecasters in the world are coming back and telling you that what they thought three months ago has now changed. And so you can imagine, these new founder entrepreneurs that are running their businesses, and how their ability to forecast. What I can tell you is that we are seeing valuation, value expectations come down from founder entrepreneurs. Things are starting to get tighter. Cash is going to be more difficult to come by, and ultimately, that's going to bring down expectations for the sellers in any M&A transaction. But we are, honestly I mean we've looked at deals even this year, that we could have picked up for 5, 5.5, 6 times, EBITDA which for all intensive purposes is pretty remarkable opportunity. And yet when you're trading at 2.5 times, on the public markets, you have to question whether or not…

Kaumil Gajrawala

Analyst

Okay, great.

Somer Webb

Analyst

I will just add thing to that. Sorry about that. The only thing I'd add is on as we look at business as well, what we've seen through the acquisitions that we've done already, is that we are really strong at fulfillment and marketing. So the B2C component and the fulfillment side to the fulfillment by Solo are two of our strengths of the platform. And so when we look at M&A targets, we really assess hey, can we drive a lot of value here. And that's also another way that if we see the profitability isn't where we want it to be those are two things that are two levers that we can move on pretty quickly.

Kaumil Gajrawala

Analyst

Got it. Great. That's actually a great segue on what I wanted to follow up on which might be an easy one to answer, which is, with the change in the revenue guidance, is there anything we should be aware of as it relates to inventory either on its way to you, in your facilities or maybe sitting at wholesale?

John Merris

Analyst

Yes. Good question Kaumil. So the only the only thing I'll call out Somer will probably have more to add here as well, is the dynamic of our current inventory position is this transition between 1.0 and 2.0. It's just important to note, because generally as we've ramped up to 2.0 because we need to have enough to point out to get us through Q4 we just talked about 40% of our revenue coming in the fourth quarter. So we've been ramping up that inventory to be prepared for Q4 which is something to be aware of. And then secondly, as we've launched international markets. So we're launching Australia, we've been sending inventory in and ramping up inventory for our new fulfillment center in Australia. And so ultimately, there are some inventory growth needs in for those two reasons. One, the new products and just overall product developments, all the new skews, we just talked about launching more products than we ever have this year. The back half of this year is no exception to that. So those new skews, which includes 2.0, the Solo Stove 2.0 and then international markets has required that we invest in inventory. Of course it doesn't expire on the shelves, we talked about this, we're in strong cash position. So we feel really good about the inventory levels.

Kaumil Gajrawala

Analyst

Thanks. It's useful. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from [indiscernible] from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, this is Matt on for Peter, thanks for taking our questions. Just a quick one. First, on gross margin, I want to make sure I heard you right. I know the guidance for the year is 60% plus, but think I heard John say should be in that low 60% to 63% range. Was that in the backup for those quarters? Or was that for the full year that 60 to 63? Just want to make sure I'm not I don't have the backup too low? That's the first one.

Somer Webb

Analyst

Yes. So we right now we're thinking that the full year will be 60 plus percent. So we've been running. We ran this quarter at 65%. We do believe in the back half of the year, we're going to see a little bit of a headwind due to the container costs and the way our contracts worked out. But we still believe that we'll be above 60% and blended to kind of ride in that 60%, 63% range for the full year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay.

John Merris

Analyst

Just to provide a little bit of color on the freight, just so that it jives with what you guys are understanding here and from other companies. A lot of companies are telling you that freight rates have come down for their business. Just as a reminder, because of the nature of how well we managed our break contracts last year, we were able to lock in and have an average container cost of roughly $8,500 last year. And so even though spot rates have come down, our new contract rates coupled with spot rates, where they are right now is actually well above what we paid last year. And so we're feeling a little bit more pressure on freight, even with freight rates coming down than other companies that you guys maybe following or hearing from so. Just so that you can understand why that dynamic exists for us versus others is more compared to cut of how well it was managed last year. We're seeing the same freight rates coming down this year benefit. It's just that benefit is still above where we were last year.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. That's really helpful. And then just one quick follow up. You all have any updates on patent violations and what you all are doing to mitigate those infringements? Thanks.

John Merris

Analyst

Yes. It's a daily, we're following daily. And reacting quickly. We've been in the midst of we've actually, I'm not able to disclose too much quite yet. But we are very close on a positive win for us. We're at a verbal stage, we're close to execution on a final agreement on a pending litigation case that we have right now. So things are heading in the right direction. Our IP is holding up well and being recognized in this scenario that I'm talking about now. We believe that this is going to be a really big and important victory for us as we look forward to potentially additional knock offs and competitors in the future with relation to our IP.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Sharon Zackfia from William Blair. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, guys, this is Alexandre on for Sharon. Just a quick one on the lower revenue outlook. Do you guys see any need for increased promotional activity to drive sales growth, given the forecast and slowdown?

John Merris

Analyst

What we've guided to is really what we expected. So in terms of promotion, we expect to be the same promotional that we have been in historical year. So nothing really changes there. Like I talked about earlier. Customer acquisition costs were artificially low through the pandemic, and kind of gave us all sense of where marketing spend would be on a broader basis. But in terms of being extra promotion or more promotional, we don't anticipate needing to be more promotional. In fact, with the new products that we have rolling out in the back half of the year, we have so much good to talk about. We're feeling pretty good about our back half position in relation to our promotional strategy.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks on that. And then just one other one. Could you touch a little bit more on any color you could give with the impairment charges at ISLE understanding that you saw the slowdown relative to the COVID bump. But anything else you could say there and outlook for that business?

Somer Webb

Analyst

Yes. I will take that one. There were indications that they had really strong strength in 2020 and 2021. We believed that they could continue with that strength in 2022. They started softening. They've been running soft for several months. At that point they're down, I won't get the exact numbers, but they're down pretty significantly year-over-year. The good news is, and we are seeing positive trend, so we hired a new brand president. He came on in May. We have a new product innovation guy, you saw that we came out with ISLE switch. So we have momentum. We believe that this is going to take some time, but that the recovery we're seeing positive signs that this could recover over the next 12 months. But I would say it's probably going to take about 12 months for it to get back to really probably 19, 20 levels.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, great. It's very helpful. Thanks. I'll pass it on.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Jason [indiscernible] from Citi. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Great. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Just to talk about digital acquisition costs. I get those costs are increasing and that you're watching [indiscernible] but how has that impacted how you're allocating marketing resources either across brands or at the top of the funnel if at all? Any comments on that would be helpful.

John Merris

Analyst

Yes, I'll take this one in a couple of different ways. It's a great question. One of the things we've talked about on previous calls that I'll reiterate today is that we are -- 85% of our business, being direct to consumer online, gives us, affords us the opportunity to do a lot of testing and we do. We iterate a lot and we iterate within digital channels, but we also iterate cross channel. So the way this is playing out in terms of customer acquisition costs is it's allowing us to go out and explore new channels, and new opportunities and even new types of campaigns and new creative. So we're constantly iterating as we're watching that [indiscernible] and then looking for a blended [indiscernible] that really fit into our financial model. So you're going to see us running, we have an internal correlation regression model we've talked about in the past, where we're able to correlate, for instance, spend on Facebook, and how that spend is actually impacting the success that we're having on Google. So when we drop Facebook spend, what actually happens to the effectiveness of our Google spend, or our TikTok spend, or our podcast or CTV spend. So there's quite a sophistication, and Somer just kind of alluded to this, but our marketing is one of our two big value propositions when we do M&A and that's exactly why because it is differentiated and it is proprietary to the way that we execute. It's all done in house. For the most part, we execute all of our marketing with our own internal team versus using outside agencies. And so that's a big proponent to us. In terms of top of funnel, the one thing that I'll call out that's really important for everybody to…

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. Thanks for that. That's helpful color. And also a good transition to my second question that being can you just spend a little bit more time talking about international? It sounds like it's really progressing well. And now you have all your frames in Canada, but maybe to talk a little bit more about what's going on in Europe and plan for Australia? What brands would be there if it's still a B2C lead strategy? Or if you're thinking about bringing into retail in the immediacy? Thanks.

John Merris

Analyst

Yes. Our general approach with international markets is B2C first, that's always been our approach. Now, we've been running and partnering with international distributors for several years. And so we have small distributors across the globe that really become kind of an entry, an entryway or a gateway to a country. So they've been they're kind of evangelizing the brand. It's actually how we're deciding which markets to go into next. It's kind of based on the volume and demand that we're seeing through our international distributors. But it is a B2C first approach. That's certainly how we're thinking about it. And I guess in terms of color on what we've seen I've said in the past, our hope is to get international to a predictable and stable enough place that we actually start providing more specific color on our international performance. We are very happy. I will say this without getting too specific, is we are very happy and international is exceeding our expectations and where we expect it to be this quickly. We aren't even a year old in Europe and we just barely are crossing the year mark in Canada for Solo Stove and the other three brands are all within the last few months just going live in Canada and Europe. So we're very pleased so much so that we're launching Canada or Australia, which we've been talking about this quarter we've been talking about that for almost a year now. But we actually have moved. We've accelerated another additional international market. We're not going to disclose which one it is on this call. We will on our next call. But we've accelerated an additional international market for the back half of this year, just based on the momentum and success that we're seeing in Canada and Europe. So we're very pleased. It's going well. We're looking forward to sharing more and I hope and I'm expecting that for sure by this time next year we're giving you guys more specifics around our international business.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Super. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions on the call. So I will hand back to management to conclude.

John Merris

Analyst

Great, thank you all for being with us today and for the thoughtful questions. This has been great. We look forward to being with you again in a few months.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you very much for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.