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Socket Mobile, Inc. (SCKT)

Q1 2014 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 24, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Socket Mobile First Quarter 2014 Management Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Jim Byers of MKR Group. Please go ahead.

Jim Byers

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon and welcome to Socket's conference call today to review financial results for its first quarter, ended March 31, 2014. On the call today from Socket are Kevin Mills, President and CEO; and Dave Dunlap, Chief Financial Officer. Socket Mobile distributed its earnings release over the wire service earlier today. The release has also been posted on Socket's website, at www.socketmobile.com. In addition, a replay of today's call will be available at vcall.com shortly after the call's completion and a transcript of this call will be posted on Socket's website within a few days. We have also posted replay numbers in today's press release for those wishing the replay of this call by phone. The phone replays will be available for 1 week. Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. Such forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding mobile computer data collection and handheld computer products, including details on timing, distribution and market acceptance of products, and statements predicting trends of sales, market conditions and opportunities in the markets in which Socket sells its products. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties and actual results could differ materially from the results anticipated in such forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors including, but not limited to: The risks that manufacture of Socket's products may be delayed or not rolled out as predicted due to technological, market or financial factors, including the availability of product components and necessary working capital; the risks that market acceptance and sales opportunities may not happen as anticipated; the risk that Socket's application partners and current distribution channels may choose not to distribute the products or may not be successful in doing so; the risks that acceptance of Socket's products and vertical application markets may not happen as anticipated; as well as other risks described in Socket's most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Socket does not undertake any obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Socket's President and CEO, Kevin Mills.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Thanks, Jim. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. I will begin today's call with a review of our first quarter result and then discuss the business opportunities we see ahead in 2014. Overall, Q1 was a good start for the year and a very positive step towards a return to profitable operating levels in 2014. First quarter total revenue was $3.8 million, a sequential improvement from the preceding quarter. We also achieved positive EBITDA for the quarter, with sequential improvements in expenses, margins and operating results. While first quarter revenue is down about 11% from the same quarter last year, primarily due to lower SoMo revenue, we continue to see strength in our cordless scanning business, which was up both sequentially and year-over-year. Let me now discuss the dynamics of our business in Q1 and then outline our expectations for 2014, starting with our cordless barcode scanning business. Revenue from our cordless scanning business reached a record level of $2.7 million in the first quarter, up 15% sequentially over the preceding quarter and up 14% over the first quarter of last year. Looking more closely at the year-over-year comparison. Last year's first quarter included a large deal or a single customer, representing 3,200 scanners. So far this year, we really haven't had any deal of a similar magnitude. So when you compare a normalized run rate for the 2 periods, the year-over-year increase in our cordless scanning business is actually closer to 40% over the same quarter of last year. We view our run rate as the level of business that happens without large, one-time deals and are encouraged with the continued increase we are seeing in this number. Our run rate business continues to be driven by the increasing number of mobile applications that continue…

David Dunlap

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin. Socket's net increase in first quarter revenue over the fourth quarter was 3%. Within that total, sales of our cordless barcode scanning products increased 15% from the previous quarter and, at $2.7 million, represented 72% of our first quarter revenue. A decline in sales of our SoMo handheld computer products partially offset this growth. SoMo handheld computer sales represented 16% of our first quarter revenue and accessory product sales and service accounted for the remaining 12%. We expect these trends to continue in the second quarter with overall net revenue growth from the sale of barcode scanning products driven by an increasing number of developer applications in mobile point of sale and commercial services. First quarter results reflected improvements over the previous quarter in margins, operating expenses, operating income, net income and income before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, or EBITDA. Our margins increased from 41.1% of revenue in the fourth quarter to 42.8% of revenue in the first quarter, reflecting product cost savings and reductions in fixed manufacturing overhead cost. Our operating expenses, consisting of engineering, sales and marketing, and general and administration expenses, decreased from a $1,781,000 in the fourth quarter to $1,551,000 in the first quarter due to non-recurring expenses in Q4 that did not recur in Q1 as well as lower operating costs. Our operating results improved from an operating loss of $274,000 in the fourth quarter to operating income of $72,000 in the first quarter. And our bottom line improved from a loss of $419,000, or $0.09 per share in Q4, to a loss of $72,000, or $0.01 per share in the first quarter. As Kevin has noted, cordless barcode scanning has been driving our growth and is expected to continue to do so as the mobile business markets we are addressing,…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question today comes from Brian Swift of Security Research Associates.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Could you comment on how the market is accepting the new product that you introduced last fall that attaches to the iPhone?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

The 8 series, I refer to it as. Yes. I would actually say that we're very pleased with the level of sales. Generally speaking, it takes a little bit of time, but we have essentially gone from about 9,000 in Q3, when we introduced just at the end, to about 90,000 in Q4 to 180,000 in Q1. So it's on a pretty good curve. Now the reality is that we don't expect a lot of revenue when we introduce a product because it takes the developers some time to modify and update their applications. So I would describe that product as now coming into its own as we go into the second quarter. But the introduction has gone very well and we have seen the revenue grow up to reasonable levels and we expect that to continue. And the other to add to that is we're not seeing any, I would describe as cannibalization of our 7 series with this newer product. Most of our 7 series, it turns out, are used with tablet-based devices such as the iPad. And the 8 series seems to be much more popular with phone-based devices such as the iPhone and Android equivalents. So, I would say that product is doing well and certainly we're pretty confident that it will continue to increase in revenue going forward.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Do you have any visibility on where -- what kind of applications those devices are being used in? I mean, I know that you said they're attached to an iPhone but, I mean, how -- who's using it? Who's buying it?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Okay. Well, okay. I think it's still early days. I was in Japan recently and we have a customer there, who is using approximately 400 of them. And they're using them in a nursing application, where they're using a iTouch in conjunction with the scanner to dispense medication. So that's one. We also see them being used I think -- well, that's the one we have definite. We have a lot of trials going on in the retail space, where people want to have a cash register in their hands and they want to use the equivalent of a Square-type reader with a scanner. And it's ideal for that type of solution, also. But again, relatively early days. But I would say the 2 areas where we're seeing most is commercial services, where we would see it used with an iPhone for a process control, and retail. So I don't know if that's sufficient color for you.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Okay. Anyway, retail applications. Secondly, do you -- can you give us any color on -- you said in your remarks you are going to give us some outlook for 2014, but all I heard was the goal of being profitable. Did you have any -- can you give us any guidance on -- you say that the SoMo should kind of level out from here so the growth would come from the scanners. Any goals in terms of what kind of topline we should be expecting?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes. I think that we continue to grow the business quarter-over-quarter. We would expect or hope for something in the 10% range. I think that's -- historically, we've seen Q3 to be a bit of mixed bag in terms of outlook and largely depends on what Apple does. So we're kind of planning this year that Q3 will be flat relative to Q2, because we expect Apple to introduce some changes, which generally slow things down. And -- but I think our stated goal is to be profitable. We were pretty close in Q1. And I think, with another 10% on the revenue line, we would be achieving that in Q2.

David Dunlap

Analyst

But to add to that, Brian, except for the large order from Japan that Kevin referred to the first quarter 1 year ago, almost all of our growth in cordless barcode scanning has been in small-quantity purchases but a growing number of small-quantity purchases, which is reflecting the growth of, in retail, the small and medium businesses and some of the earlier stages in terms of people testing and trying out the products. Typically, as you mature in these areas, you start to see larger deployments happening. They always take a little longer. So, the growth rate very much will benefit from larger deals that will kick-in but those are always a little hard for us to try to predict.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Okay. The 10% you're referring to is year-over-year, is that right?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, actually no. We view things more quarter over -- I mean sequentially.

Brian Swift

Analyst

10% sequential growth? Okay.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes, I think that's realistic of what we can do going forward. So, that's kind of our target internally. But as Dave mentioned, there's many variable, right? And we continue to see the market rising. We haven't really seen a sea change yet. It's still early days. But we are seeing, I would say, daily increases in our sales out, which is key in terms of our revenue. But it's all small purchasers as small merchants around the country are converting over to Apple-based POS systems, et cetera.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Okay. And lastly, on that subject, have you gotten any kind of visibility on some of these larger deals that you've talked about in the past quarters, like in Japan and...

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes, so I don't know that I have any visibility but I can share what I do know. I did go to Japan and I did meet with the customer involved. And where they are is they are still deploying the first phase and they won't be making a decision on the second phase until later in the year. So far they have run into no difficulty with the first phase. So that's a good thing. But they indicated they wouldn't be making a decision on the second phase until, more than likely, September, October timeframe. So that's kind of all we know right now.

David Dunlap

Analyst

And that whole roll out program was published in an article by the company in Japan as a 6-quarter roll out program that would be basically starting this quarter. So they've got over a 100,000 stores, of which probably 70,000 are very small kiosk types that typically won't use scanning. But their -- this is a longer-term project for them that will take place over time. So we'll let people know as we get more feedback from the customer.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Okay. And how about locally? The moving company that keeps moving out their deadline date. The last I heard was [indiscernible] April?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, I think they're correctly labeled a moving company, right? So all I would say is that we haven't seen any substantial revenue from this opportunity yet. And our understanding is that they are still planning on going ahead. And certainly if they went ahead that would boost our revenue but the numbers we presented today do not include any part of that opportunity. But we still believe it's a real opportunity that will happen this year but we're not in control of timing and when it happens, I think it will add nicely to our revenue.

Brian Swift

Analyst

Okay. Can you give us some kind of a range in terms of what's the upside to that one, if and when it ever comes?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, the customer in question, I believe, has 700 franchisees that would need approximately 10 scanners per. So if you're talking about a 7,000 unit opportunity, so you'd be talking over $1 million. So certainly, should that arrive, in whatever quarter it arrives in, it would add nicely to our current run rate, especially if you look at the fact that the current run rates do not include that deal. And to be honest, we are not expecting much of that deal in Q2. So, if it arrives, it'll be a bonus.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Don Coleman [ph], private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Gentlemen, I think it's very important for Socket to get relisted on the NASDAQ. Could you tell me what has to happen for that to occur?

David Dunlap

Analyst

Yes. We came off, Don, because of falling below the net equity requirements of the exchange. That's the only item that we are out of sync on. We came off it because the requirement to stay on for continued listing is $2.5 million but, to get back on, is $5 million. So once we build the equity of the company up to $5 million, we can reapply and today we would otherwise qualify for NASDAQ.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

So do you see this happening in the near future?

David Dunlap

Analyst

Well I think it's a timing of -- a function of part of our growth, if -- as we grow faster, we can manage our expenses. We leverage very well, as I have mentioned in my comments, which means as you become more and more profitable on the bottom line, it becomes a more significant contributor to your equity balances. As the market price of the company stock goes up, which we would expect to see that if we're growing -- the more rapidly we're growing and more profitable we are, we've got about $5 million in outstanding warrants and options and the average price on that is around the $1.25, it runs in a range from about a $1 up to about $3. So, just the exercise of warrants and options, the positive operating results but, also, that same condition would enable us to augment the equity with a capital raise. And all of those will grow the equity to the levels that would get us back on NASDAQ. I think a $5 million equity level is -- or above, is very appropriate for Socket. And as we grow that's certainly a level that we'd be very comfortable with in achieving. And how we achieve it and how fast we achieve it will be a function of just how well the business grows.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

That would certainly give a big boost to the price of the stock, for sure.

David Dunlap

Analyst

We share that.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from William Smart of Cardinal Value.

William Smart

Analyst

I missed the first -- most of the first part of your call but, reading your press release, you mentioned that barcode scanning revenue grew 16% quarter-over-quarter. Is that the slope you think you're on right now, approximately? There weren't any big deals in that, were there?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

There weren't any big deals in that. So, I would say yes, I think that a slope in around that level, whether it's 16, plus or minus a few percentage points, I think is a reasonable -- it's what we're seeing. I think that we are seeing more and more of these applications hitting the market, which is driving the scanning sales. So yes, I think we saw -- I think that's a reasonable number, yes.

William Smart

Analyst

Okay, well that's pretty healthy. Thank you...

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes, we're seeing good health on the scanning side of our business.

William Smart

Analyst

Have you -- I know your handheld has sort of gone on to the back burner. Have you at all considered some other areas to get into or are you emphasizing primarily the barcode scanning for the next couple of years?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, we did -- I did, in my comments, make the remark that we will kind of refocus the SoMo over towards the RFID, NFC market. And I've -- this achieves 2 things for us. One is that it gives a -- I wouldn't say a lease on life but a new opportunity to the SoMo but also it gives ourselves the opportunity to educate ourselves on the NFC, RFID markets, which we believe have been on the verge of break out for many years. And certainly, as we move forward, we would like to participate in those markets with our cordless scanning, like, reader-type solutions. So I think barcode scanning is obviously the driver of the company right now but I think it will be broader than barcode scanning. And we would branch out into other areas of mobile data collection as we move forward.

William Smart

Analyst

All right. Could you just give me an example of RFID scanning? I'm a little vague on that.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, I'd say ticketing type applications. RFID or NFC scanning is typically used for maybe loyalty cards, maybe you're going to concerts or football games, the same type of tickets that are used on Oyster cards in the Bay Area, public transport. So, that type of card can be read to control a process, whether it's entrance to an event or some type of...

William Smart

Analyst

[indiscernible].

Kevin Mills

Analyst

So, again you get some choices. The benefit of RFID is you can write back to the card and therefore the card can be updated with information on the go. And it's been around for a long time, and we've been involved to some degree, but it's always struggled. But it seems to be gaining traction now because mobile phones have the ability to have NFC built into them and you could use your mobile phone at entrance to an event. So we're watching this part of the business and we would like to be involved. Historically, our problem has probably been that we've been too early to markets. And we don't want to be quite so early, but we don't want to be lazy.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from David Savory [ph], private investor.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

I'm trying to get an idea on where the floor is for the SoMo. I know you said it was $600,000 in revenue. How much of the service warranty work was related to SoMo, also?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

I would say probably 60%, approximately. I mean, we still have 75,000 SoMos out there. So yes, the service -- and we have contracts with people. So it's being used.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Okay. So about $600,000 new sales, say $200,000 then in repairs?

David Dunlap

Analyst

No, the $450,000 also included accessory revenues. So you've got SoMo accessories in there and you've got the service.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

But approximately $200,000, I think, is a reasonable...

David Dunlap

Analyst

Yes, it's fine.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Okay. And you guys think you, with the RFID focus, you can at least maintain that, hopefully?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, even without the RFID focus, we have customers who are using us and happy using us. They have their programs written and they're deploying and they're not looking to change. So we have some what I would describe as base customers, all right? What we're not seeing on the SoMo is new customers.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Okay. I got a question on the scanners, please. Could you give me breakdown between domestic and international sales, please?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Approximately, I would say, that on the scanning, we're probably 68%, 70% domestic and the rest is overseas.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Okay. Do you see international sales potentially growing faster than domestic, or do you see them both growing even, or where do you see that?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, I think that what we see internationally is somewhat of an offset. I don't know that faster is the right way to look at this. I think that we often see applications starting in the U.S. and they gain some traction and then going overseas. When they go overseas, you see the growth. But I think we're offset in time internationally versus domestically.

Unknown Attendee

Analyst

Okay, I appreciate that. And last of all is the 42.8% profit margin. That's actually probably one of the highest rates you've had in a couple of years. Where do you see that going as scanner revenue goes up and, with the switch over to the antimicrobial cases, is that going to affect the profit margin going forward?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, we believe that we'll be able to stay in or around that range. Obviously, as the volume goes up, our fixed overhead costs as a percent go down. And so, again, as our volumes go up, we get a little bit of an offset. So I think we'll stay in or around that range even as volume goes up.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions in the queue at this time. I will now turn the call back over to Kevin Mills for concluding comments.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Thank you, operator. I would just like to thank everyone for participating in today's call and to wish you all a good afternoon. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.