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Socket Mobile, Inc. (SCKT)

Q3 2019 Earnings Call· Thu, Oct 24, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to the Q3 2019 Socket Mobile management conference call. My name is Erin, and I'll be the operator for today's call. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities and Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. Such forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding mobile data collection and mobile data collection products, including details on timing, distribution and market acceptance of products and statements predicting the trends, sales and market conditions and opportunities in the markets in which Socket Mobile sells its products. Such statements involve risks and uncertainties, and actual results could differ materially from the results anticipated in such forward-looking statements because of a number of factors, including, but not limited to, the risk that manufacture of Socket's products may be delayed or not rolled out as predicted due to technological, market or financial factors, including the availability of product components and necessary working capital; the risk that market acceptance and sales opportunities may not happen as anticipated; the risk that Socket's application partners and current distribution channels may choose not to distribute the products or may not be successful in doing so; the risk that acceptance of Socket's products in vertical application markets may not happen as anticipated; as well as other risks described in Socket's most recent Form 10-K and 10-Q reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Socket does not undertake any obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Kevin Mills. Kevin, you may begin.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Our Q3 revenue was $5 million, a 20% increase compared to revenue of $4.1 million for the same quarter a year ago. We reported a profit in Q3 of $94,000 or $0.01 per share compared to a loss of $45,000 or a $0.01 per share loss in the same quarter a year ago. Q3 was our third consecutive profitable quarter and indicates that our business continues to strengthen in 2019. For the 9 months ending September 30, revenue was $14.7 million, an increase of 19% compared to the $12.3 million in the same period in 2018. In Q3, about 85% of our revenue came from point-of-sale-related applications, which was driven by strong international sales. Sales in Japan benefited from the government incentive program that provided rebates to small businesses upgrading to an online point-of-sale system. Our strong Japanese sales in September added about $250,000. We also saw a good point-of-sale-driven sales in Europe, where a large international brand retailer deployed an iPad-based solution to 2 of its smaller brands, resulting in another $250,000 boost. Our point-of-sale-related sales in North America were down slightly in Q3 with the first 2 weeks of September being unusually weak. While we don't know the exact cause, we speculate that the transition to iOS 13, iPad OS and the fact that Apple changed the dimensions of the iPads are probable causes. In Q3, we introduced our DuraSled family of products with support for the iPhone X and iPhone 11. Based on our modular approach, we believe we are the first company to have scanning sleds for the iPhone X and iPhone 11 range of phones. Our ability to quickly support new phones is one of the things that gives us a competitive…

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

Thank you, Kevin. We have distributed our earnings release over the wire service earlier today. The release has also been posted on Socket's website at socketmobile.com. In addition, a replay of today's call will be available shortly after the call's completion through the company's website, socketmobile.com, and a transcript of this call will be posted on the Socket's website within a few days. Our gross margin on revenue for the 3- and the 9-month periods ended September 30, 2019, were 52.9% and 52.3%, respectively, compared to the gross margins of 52.6% and 51.8%, respectively, in the corresponding periods in 2018. Our operating expenses for the third quarter were $2.5 million compared to $2.4 million in the preceding quarter and $2.2 million in the same quarter a year ago. Increases in operating expenses were primarily due to higher personnel costs, reflecting headcount additions to facilitate the product development and the increases in consulting and professional fees. Our Q3 net income continues to be sheltered from federal and the state income taxation by net operating loss carryforwards. Our cash flow has improved as a result of the profitable growth. Our revolving credit facilities and their profitability will provide the working capital we need to support future growth. Next, I'm pleased to report that our Board has appointed Mr. Ivan Lazarev as a new member effective yesterday. Mr. Lazarev has served in the event registration services and lead management software industry for the past 33 years. In 1999, Mr. Lazarev cofounded ITN International, which was acquired by Aventri in 2018. We believe that we'll benefit greatly from Mr. Lazarev's experiences in NFC and the tap-and-go market. His insight into the tradeshow and exposition market will provide a valuable perspective that will help our efforts in becoming a significant contributor in the emerging NFC market ecosystem. With the appointment of Mr. Lazarev, our Board of Directors, composed of 4 independent directors and 3 management directors, enabled us to regain their compliance with NASDAQ Listing Rule 5605(b)(1), which requires that the company's Board to consist of a majority of independent directors. We will file an 8-K disclosing that the company has regained compliance with the NASDAQ rule. Now I'd like to turn the call back to the operator for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from [ Colin Meyer ].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Kevin, it seems like, looking at the numbers and with your international increase, which seems like a pretty high percentage compared to the past, what -- it seems to me that your domestic sales were under what you were hoping for, is that a fair statement?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

That's a fair statement. Yes, I think we had a very solid July and August and much -- we had, like I said, a very unusual September. This was unexpected. Obviously, Apple announced on September 6, the new operating system, and we knew this. I think the new iPad's changes, but they also moved people to iPad OS. And I just think that was maybe a higher level of uncertainty.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

What about your enterprise sales in the quarter?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes. Again, I mean the enterprise sales were okay. They weren't dramatically different. I guess I've said in the past, we're 70% in Q2 point-of-sale-dependent. So if the point of sale is down, it's hard for the rest to make it up in this time frame. Now we do expect that to change over time, but that's the way it is currently.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Right. So I know you don't do much marketing, but do you see an increased level needed to expand sales more than they've shown so far? Because I know originally, you thought that you had a shot to do close to what you did in 2017 based on your Annual Meeting presentation, but that seems you're going to be substantially off of that. Part of that you explaining the Apple situation, but I'm just trying to understand because the fourth quarter sounds like you're talking about getting close to $5 million, again, which will leave you quite a bit short. So I'm just trying to get a feel because I expected earnings to be moving up quicker than they are.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes. So I think that -- 2 things. We would have said that Japan would have been stronger, and it actually was because the Japanese changed the rules in early September to allow the deliveries of hardware all the way to December 16. Previously, you had to have all hardware delivered in September -- by September 30. So we don't know how much that pushed into Q4, right? I think on the overall, yes, I would say we are seeing the markets, particularly in North America kind of point of sale struggling a little bit much more than we expected. Now the commercial services and the inspection stuff, I actually don't think, is struggling. We are seeing a lot of applications being completed. So we do expect that to continue to strengthen going forward. But the point of sale, I think, there's a lot of small shops struggling in America, is probably the best way to describe it. So we saw more international. International was 34% of the business in Q3, which typically it's been 25% of the business. So I think your observation is correct, and North America, particularly point of sale, was weaker than we expected in Q3.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from [ Steve Watson ].

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Kevin, did you say that Japan moved the third quarter deadline back from the end of September to now the end of December?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Well, I nearly said that. I said some of that, right? What they said was that previously, you had to order and have the hardware delivered by September 30. On the 6th of September, they said you have to order but you can get your hardware delivery up until December 16. So they didn't move the deadline, but they moved the availability of when you can deliver the hardware, which, in our opinion, moved some of the orders that we would have scrambled to fill in September into the fourth quarter.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

So that was -- one of the questions I have then is how big of a backlog do we have from Japan for orders received in September expecting delivery to be in the fourth quarter? Is that a 125,000, 250,000? What backlog of orders do we have -- kind of will put in to meet this government deadline?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

We're working on that. Well, our distribution model -- I mean our distributors could have a lot more orders. But they were selling scanners out at a tremendous rate in the last 2 weeks of September. It's the end of their fiscal year. We're working on what they didn't ship, but I don't honestly know. I would expect that it would be -- I mean originally, we expected a bump of maybe 400,000. We got 2.5 -- 250,000. I think that we -- if we had got the 400,000, now we'd be explaining that Japan is going to be as dry as a board for all of Q4. So we believe that what we lost in Q3, we will catch up in Q4, but I don't have an exact number for you right now.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Yes, I was kind of wondering, I would assume that with Japan deadline, if there would be a period of dryness, as you pointed out, for the fourth quarter if everyone scrambled to get their order in by the end of September 30 to get this rebate or kickback from the government on...

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes, because it was substantial. It was 75%, right? So it wasn't a small rebate. So -- and again, I think the Japanese tend to be very conformists. So we'll work out what that number is as soon as we can.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Another question I had is now that we've named another independent Board director, what's the sense of how long it will take before the NASDAQ clears Socket from its deficient list? Is that going to be a 2-day process? Or is that an 8-week process?

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

[ Steve ], we're going to file the 8-K on Monday, and I will follow up with the NASDAQ. Normally, they have at least a week to 10 days to send us a letter to inform us that we have been -- we have regained the compliance.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

So yes, we would say 8 to 10 days.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So maybe mid- to late November for that to happen and us to see it and kind of promulgate it through different financial websites and stuff?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes. And also, when we do our 10-Q, obviously, then it should be cleared by then.

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

Yes.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Which I think is what a lot of people are waiting for.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So we're hoping to have the language in the 10-Q that NASDAQ has taken us off of the deficiency as part of our 10-Q filing.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes. That will be grammar.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. Great. Lynn, how many more months do we have on the bank loan left to pay off?

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

We have another -- we are paying like $125,000 a quarter, so we have another like 3 quarters.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. And then can you give me a sense for how much cash we generated in the third quarter, free cash flow?

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

The free cash flow is...

Kevin Mills

Analyst

So our EBITDA, it was $350,000-something, right?

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

Yes. It was $380,000 -- the EBITDA was $380,000, and the...

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

I'm sorry, so EBITDA was $380,000?

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

$380,000, yes.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Okay. But you don't have the free cash flow handy?

Kevin Mills

Analyst

Yes. We'll -- she's looking for it. We have a bulky financial package.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

No worries.

Lynn Zhao

Analyst

Yes, okay. Sorry, I'll have to get back to you on that.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

So we'll get back to you on that, if that's okay.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And it looks like there are no questions at this time.

Kevin Mills

Analyst

All right. So just to answer [ Steve's ] question, our free cash flow was $395,000 for the quarter. So as there are no more questions, I'd just like to thank everyone for participating in today's call, and I wish you all a good afternoon. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.