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Senseonics Holdings, Inc. (SENS)

Q3 2021 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 9, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Senseonics Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Carsten Beckwith with the Gilmartin Group. Please go ahead.

Carsten Beckwith

Analyst

Thank you. This is Carsten Beckwith from the Gilmartin Group. Before we begin today, let me remind you that the Company's remarks include forward-looking statements. These statements reflect management's expectations about future events, operating plans, regulatory matters, product enhancements, Company performance and other matters and speak only as of the date hereof. These forward-looking statements involve a number of risks and uncertainties. A list of the factors that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied by any of these forward-looking statements, is detailed under risk factors and elsewhere in our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31st, 2020, our 10-Q for the quarter ended September 30th, 2021, and our other reports filed with the SEC. These documents are available in the Investor Relations section of our website at www.senseonics.com. We undertake no obligation to update publicly or revise these forward-looking statements for any reason except as required by law. Also on this call, we will be discussing our 2021 outlook. Joining me from Senseonics are Tim Goodnow, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Nick Tressler, Chief Financial Officer. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Tim Goodnow, President and CEO. Tim.

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

Thank you, Carsten. And thank you all for joining us this afternoon. On the call today, we will provide a brief update on Senseonics regulatory developments, our product pipeline, our commercial activities, and Nick will discuss the third quarter financials in detail. And then I'll conclude and open up the call for Q&A. To begin in the 3nd quarter, Senseonics generated $3.5 million of revenue. This included $0.6 million from the U.S. and $2.9 million from outside the U.S. wherever the larger installed base. Commercially in the U.S., Senseonics has been re-engaging healthcare providers who prescribed an insert ever since to support current patients and to add new users in those clinics. The greatest challenges in this work are driving awareness, converting leads into use and securing HCP comfort with the reimbursement requirements as quickly as we would like. We appreciate signs of interest and anticipation among both HCPs and patients and the potential FDA approval of the 180-day system. We believe that anticipation of this launch along with the impacts of the Delta variant, have also curved the number of new sensors inserted for the 90-day products relative to our expectations for the third quarter. Given these factors, we expect global net revenue to Senseonics for the full-year 2021 to be right in the middle of our previously stated range of $12 to $15 million. We are encouraged to be able to sustain our full-year guidance, and execute 3 anticipating being in the middle of our range, given that our guidance for this year had been established with the expectation of the U.S. 180-day products contributing to 2021 revenue. At this point, we of course, do not expect contribution from the 180-day version this fiscal year. And are happy to maintain the earlier forecasted revenue despite the delayed FDA…

Nick Tressler

Analyst

Thank you Tim, and good afternoon everyone. The Q3 results reflect the full transition of commercial activities in the U.S. and to you, to our partner of Ascensia. In the third quarter of 2021, total net revenue was $3.5 million compared to $0.8 million in the third quarter of 2020. U.S. revenue for the third quarter was $0.6 million and revenue outside the U.S. was $2.9 million. Gross loss in Q3 2021 was $1.2 million, a decrease of $2 million from gross profit of $0.8 million in the prior year period. The decrease in gross profit was predominantly related to the increase in cost of goods sold due to impairment charges and write-offs on inventory and related assets of current generation products with potential expert concerns. Third quarter 2021 sales and marketing expenses were $2.5 million. A decrease of $0.7 million compared to $3.2 million in the prior-year period. The decrease was primarily the result of a decline in salary and personnel costs from the reduction in sales support, due to the transition to Ascensia for the commercialization of Eversense, offset by an increase in general advertising related to the shared support of the commercialization of the 90-day product in the U.S. Research and development expenses in Q3, 2021, were $7.2 million, an increase of $2.6 million compared to $4.6 million in the prior-year period. The increase was primarily due to the expansion of our R&D headcount, an increase in clinical studies and lab supplies, and an increase in contractor expenses. General and administrative expenses in Q3 2021 were $5.1 million, a decrease of $0.4 million compared to $5.5 million in the prior year period, primarily due to lower professional fees. For the 3 months ended September 30, 2021, operating loss was $16 million, compared to $12.5 million, a loss…

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

Thank you Nick. In conclusion, we expect Ascensia to continue to take steps to grow the Eversense patient base and optimize conversions of interest to our implanted technology. Continually improving healthcare professional and patient awareness with targeted professional engagement in DTC advertising along with initiatives to drive patient access, are all making meaningful impacts. With the Ascensia commercial infrastructure in place to support a productive 180 day Eversence product launch. We believe that the foundation created by our new commercial partnership and the longest lasting CGM in the market positions us to well, to capture meaningful market share. We appreciate the faith that our customers have placed in us and demonstrate the value of Eversence and are excited to be able to deliver an even greater value in the future with our continued innovations. Thank you for your time today, joining us for questions are Mukul Jain, our Chief Operating Officer, and Marisol Panlilio, Vice President and General Manager of the global commercial operations. Operator, let's open up the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [ Operator Instructions ] Today's first question comes from Mathew Blackman and Stifel.Please go ahead.

Mathew Blackman

Analyst

Hey,calling on for Matt, just a couple from me. On the 180-day launch, how long do you anticipate the turnaround from approval to the actual launch? How long do you anticipate that to take and given the current environment, what are your expectations for the speed flash scale of the launch, maybe in relation to Eversence and will materially affect first half revenues next year. Thanks.

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

So we're not going to speak to revenue for next year as of yet. We'll come to that the next time we speak. But in regards to the transition, obviously it's a high motivation for us. Their view has taken us some time to get through it. The way that the process works is one of the final things that you'll agree on with the with the agency as the final configuration, the final labeling, and any other considerations that they want to include. So we will certainly go into the manufacturing, assembly and distribution support for that as quickly as we can. We did it in about 30 to 45 days. Last time that we will launch the 90-day product, I would anticipate with a partner in some of the hand-offs there might be a little bit dual time, but not significantly greater.

Mathew Blackman

Analyst

And if I could just once follow-up. You expect to be in the middle of the $12 million to $15 million guidance range for the year, can you remind us, is a 180 days still included in that number? What else is baked in? I'm Just trying to get some color for 4Q. Thank you.

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

At this point even if we got approval right away, given the transition that needs to occur as we just talked about, it's not likely that we would be able to commercialize product within this year. So there is no 180-day products in the U.S. that's anticipated in that middle of the range for -- of 12 to 15, so we would anticipate in the U.S. continuing to sell the 90-day product to that time point.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Thank you. Our next question today from Jayson Bedford at Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Hi, good afternoon. Maybe a few questions from me. Tim, you talked a little bit around kind of kick starting the awareness program or SENS is -- any way you can give us a sense of where you are in the U.S. in terms of number of users from a physician standpoint.

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

We were going to stick to the annual patient count. As you recall, we were just about 1,000 patients, a little bit more than a year ago. We have seen some reduction from that, but we are working to, of course, will that back. So we'll update that on the next call. And do recall that we've got quite a bit of larger installed base in Europe as well.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

What about Tim though from a injector of standpoint, from a physician standpoint, is there any way you can kind of give us an idea of how many folks are implanting device today?

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

So there is about -- I believe the numbers are a little bit over 400 folks that are actively and -- are trained and actively invest detecting inserting. Don't know if all of those are actually is [Indiscernible] Jason. As you heard from this step, there is a very encouraging interest in the 180 day products, and we have had some feedback that were on the way to get started back up again when that's available.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Okay. And when will you file for the IC GM label?

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

We're going to get to that as soon as we get to this review. Recall that is a 510(k), which has some advantages, but I'm through there is a little bit of complexity with that transition. We have talked to the agency about it. As our device is a combination device, there is a little bit of work that they need to do. So I do expect that we'll continue to take some time. But at this point, we're all focused on the primary 180-day product.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Okay. And maybe just for Nick. A little bump in receivables, quarter-on-quarter. What's the ideal level either from a DSO, percent of sales standpoint? I'm just wondering, how should we look at the right level of receivables?

Nick Tressler

Analyst

Sure. Yeah. I'd expect that 30 to 45 day range from a receivables standpoint.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

It will come down from current levels, I believe. That's the expectations?

Nick Tressler

Analyst

That's the expectation.

Jayson Bedford

Analyst

Okay. Alright. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Alex [Indiscernible] with Craig-Hallum, please go ahead.

Connex Stephenson

Analyst

Hey everyone. This is Connex Stephenson on for Alex. Thanks for taking the questions. So I don't want to pound this too hard. It sounds like you're pretty confident about the 180-day approval happening by the end of the year, but given what's happening in the market with FDA clocks thrown out the window with other diabetes products. Do you see any risk of the approval slipping into 2022?

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

I'd certainly would never say that there is no risk, we are in active review at this point, certainly earlier in the year, having their resources to be able to get back to the diabetes technology was the issue for all of us. I won't say that they are back 5 days a week, but they are back the majority. So certainly we'd never say there's no risk, but it's our expectation based on the cadence of the interaction and the inner review that we've been through, that we are encouraged and very much fuel and believe that we're headed in that direction.

Connex Stephenson

Analyst

Okay. Sounds good. And then just a follow-up to that. Are there any like, contract covenants with Ascensia if the 180 day approval isn't reached by a certain point?

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

There is some consideration, but it is quite a bit of waste out from where we are today. If we were to just ultimately never receive it.

Connex Stephenson

Analyst

Sure. Okay. And then looking through like the FDA database, what is the current premature failure rate Ascensia currently in? And is that expected to improve with a 180 day?

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

That's an area we continue to focus on. The premature failure rate is about 3% or 4% in the U.S., and those are sensors that will go early based on the body's oxidative response. But obviously the design of the 180 is to certainly significantly moderate that.

Connex Stephenson

Analyst

Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to the management team for any final remarks.

Tim Goodnow

Analyst

Great. Thank you. We very much appreciate everyone's time and we look forward to updating you at the -- on the full-year performance at the next quarterly call. So with that good day,

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. We thank you all for attending today's presentation. You may disconnect your lines and have a wonderful day.