Thomas Lorenzini
Analyst · Citizens JMP.
Chris, I think it's a little bit of all of those things that you just mentioned. There's been -- going back a few months, right, I think the optimism in the market was, "Hey, the Fed is going to lower rates. Maybe now is the time I can entertain a refinance if I'm an existing borrower and get off my current loan, maybe ride the curve down and put some better financing in place."
So a good number of those transactions just didn't happen, right, because the messaging coming from the Fed and the economy in general is just said, "Hey, look, we're going to be at a higher interest rate period for a longer time." So I think it took a little bit of wind out of the sails, if you will, for quite a few people that might have been looking to refinance.
The other thing that we're seeing, there's still, in the market, you have overleveraged transactions that were written in 2021 maybe that are coming due, especially in the multifamily sector, where we're trying to be active, which are going to require some cash in. So we'll often underwrite transactions that we want to go after. And there may be some cash required from the sponsorship to balance that out, and they're not willing to do that. So that transaction doesn't happen.
The other dynamic that you have going on is there's just a lot of dry powder, I think, on the sidelines with a lot of lenders. So when you find a transaction that works, it's very competitive. And we've seen spread compression. So we may find ourselves in situations where we certainly want the transaction, we're putting best foot forward and somebody really just kind of comes in and almost buys the business, if you will, because they might be speaking to a CLO or some other securitized execution. And they're willing to do it much cheaper than we feel appropriate. So there is flow out there. It's just a little more difficult to get it across the goal line right now.