Charles Youakim
Analyst · Needham & Company.
Yes. And the way we think about things is, first and foremost, it's always internally in the business. is there something that we have this capital flowing in because we've designed the business in a very favorable way now with cash flow. So we've got cash coming in. And as we're looking at new projects, we want to allocate that cash to projects. But I always tell people like we're not like a Tesla. We're not building factories. It's -- if we want to launch new products, it's typically bringing on new team members and allocating or reallocating team members across different projects. So it's really a pretty capital light for us to take on new projects. That's not usually a big need of that cash. Potentially partnerships, that could be a use of cash. But that's not like -- you're not like having like a flow of like, here, we've got these 20 partnerships available, let's do them or let's do the top 5, they come and go based on where potential partners are in their lifetimes. So that's hard to predict, but we like to have the cash available in case that those types of opportunities come about. And then M&A, if you've ever -- I mean, our history of our company, we've never done M&A. We've always typically been a buy versus build versus buy shop. We're not against it. But in the past, we've always seen -- and maybe this is changing a little bit now. But in the past, there's always just, in my opinion, absurd valuations based on unit economics and financial metrics that just never seem like it would make sense for us. We'd always -- well, we'll just build it if we want to do that for these prices. So it's never really been something that's popped up for us. It's not out of the question. If the market dynamics change, M&A could be there. It just -- I just want to level set. It's just never been something that's been a top one for us. And then that basically leaves you with buybacks and dividends. And we said in the past that onetime dividend could happen. I'm not saying any time near time, but it's something that's in the cards if the situation fits. And then buybacks, as Lee mentioned, just be opportunistic about it. It's not about trying to hit certain metrics with buybacks. We have no -- I always reiterate this because I think it's important for investors to know. No one in the executive team, no one on the Board has any performance comps tied to share price. We don't use buybacks in that sort of way. I guess there should be no concern that buybacks are being done to try to like affect the share price. We really view it as like when we see a time period where there's a great safety factor, great time to buy, we'll do it.