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SFL Corporation Ltd. (SFL)

Q3 2014 Earnings Call· Tue, Nov 25, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Ship Finance International Ltd. Q3 2014 Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded, and at this time I would like to turn the call over to your host today, Mr. Ole B. Hjertaker. Please go ahead, sir.

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Thank you very much and welcome everyone to Ship Finance International and our third quarter conference call. With me here today, I also have our CFO, Harald Gurvin. Before we begin our presentation, I would like to note that this conference call will contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Words such as expects, anticipates, intends, estimates or similar expressions are intended to identify these forward-looking statements. These statements are based on our current plans and expectations and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause future activities and results of operations to be materially different from those set forth in the forward-looking statements. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ, include conditions in the shipping, offshore and credit markets. For further information, please refer to Ship Finance's reports and filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Board has declared a $0.41 dividend in line with the previous quarter. The dividend represents $1.64 per share on an annualized basis or a 9.8% dividend yield based on closing price yesterday and the Company has now paid an aggregate of more than $18 per share since 2004. Net income for the quarter was $35 million or $0.37 per share and aggregate charter revenues recorded in the quarter, including 100% owned subsidiaries accounted for as investment in associate, was $168 million, excluding cash sweep, profit split and income on financial investments. The tanker market improved during the third quarter, and there was a positive cash sweep contribution of $7.9 million on the Frontline vessels. Year-to-date the accumulated cash sweep amounts to $21.4 million on these vessels, and with a firm charter market also in the fourth quarter, there are expectations for additional cash sweep for the year. We also have exposure to…

Harald Gurvin

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Ole. On this slide, we have shown our pro forma illustration of cash flows for the third quarter compared to the second quarter. Please note that this is only a guideline to assess the Company's performance and is not in accordance with U.S. GAAP. For the third quarter, total charter revenues before profit split and cash sweep were $168 million or $1.80 per share, up from $155 million in the previous quarter. Revenues from VLCCs were in line with the previous quarter, while revenues from Suezmaxes were up in the quarter due to improved earnings on the two Suezmax tankers trading in the spot market. Revenues from drybulk were also up in the quarter, mainly due to the delivery of the two Kamsarmax drybulk carriers on other charters through a state-owned Chinese operator in July and August respectively. The increase in offshore revenues, including the West Linus earning full day rates for May, following commencement of the subcharter to ConocoPhillips, which had a full effect in the third quarter. Vessel operating expenses and G&A were $32.4 million compared to $30.7 million in the previous quarter, mainly due to the addition of the two drybulk carriers. We recorded a cash sweep of $7.9 million from Frontline in the third quarter, up from $1.8 million in the second quarter, and also a profit share of approximately $100,000 relating to the four Handysize drybulk carriers, down from approximately $300,000 in the previous quarter. So overall, this summarizes to an EBITDA of $146 million for the quarter or $1.56 per share, compared to $129 million in the previous quarter. We then move on to the profit and loss statement, as reported under U.S. GAAP. As we have described in previous earnings calls, our accounting statements are slightly different than those of a…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. We will now move to our first question today from Marcelo Brisac of Armory Investments. Please go ahead.

Marcelo Brisac

Analyst · Armory Investments. Please go ahead

Hi, hello. Good afternoon. Thank you very much for the call. I have just two questions. The first one would be related to the dividend, as we have a couple of quarters that have been paying dividends higher than your net profit, and other non-cash problems [ph] with that, you do have some non-cash expenses, but is there any limit -- like set a limit to how much build you can pay, or you can continue doing that for a long time?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

There are no statutory regulations on the dividends over the years, and if you look at this in a 10-year perspective, our dividend payout has been in the region of between 70% and 75%. When the board set the dividend -- the basis for the dividend is based on a long term assessment of development of the company, and not necessarily linked to a specific percentage of the current quarter net income. Therefore we have seen in the past, the quarters where we have earned a lot more than the dividend payout, and consequently in quarters like this, when the net earnings have been somewhat lower. Of course, we are no in the process of taking delivery of some new big container ships, which are generating significant contribution. So hopefully over time, this will -- we will be able to continue the average that they have paid in the past; but as I said, there are no specific regulations on the percentage from quarter-to-quarter.

Marcelo Brisac

Analyst · Armory Investments. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you. And the second one is related to your customer; you've presented very well, the case here on who's ranking the drilling rig from you and everybody else. But could you just provide like what are your three largest clients and how much each one of them represent revenue?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Yes, my colleague Harald Gurvin can give you specific percentage of the revenue, but I would say the three largest clients we have is number one, Seadrill, we have Frontline, that's a big customer, and then we also have Glovis where we have hired [ph] the bulk vessels and two car carriers. Seadrill is of course the biggest, simply because we have the three ultra deepwater rigs to them, but otherwise, and also in North Atlantic drilling is -- with the one jack-up drilling rig, is important for us because of the significant cash flow. But we have 17 clients in total, and we have been focused on building our business by expanding our customer base, and if we go back to 2006 when I joined the company, we basically had one client, and we were exposed to one single segment. So we think that over time, the company has demonstrated is ability to diversify both the asset base, but also the charter counterparts.

Marcelo Brisac

Analyst · Armory Investments. Please go ahead

Okay. Thank you.

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now move to our next question from Fotis Giannakoulis from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Yes, hello and thank you. Ole, can you please give me your view, of where are the opportunities in terms of acquisitions, and what I want to ask more specifically is about opportunities in the crude tanker space, given the strength that this market has been experiencing the last couple of months, you've been making quite good profit from the profit sharing; but at the same time, your crude tanker exposure is shrinking, and I can say for a good reason. Are there opportunities to start building up this part of your business?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Thank you, Fotis. Absolutely, we are looking at the investment opportunities across the board, and apologies for being a bit generic, but it's difficult for us to comment on specific deal opportunities before we decide to go ahead, and actually do a deal. But I can say that, right now, we are looking at the deals both in the tanker, bulker, container and offshore space. If you look at the segments where you see, call it more long term charter deals, I would say that there is more -- you could see more of that in the container and car carrier business, and also I would say that, in the offshore space, you've also seen more longer term chartering opportunities, where you see strong counterparts at the end, where you have good visibility on cash flows. With the change we have seen also in the market now, where the bond market seemed to have stopped off, and typically sort of project bond market that was very active, particularly in Europe over the last two years, we think that there will be more opportunities coming in that segment, and that was a segment that was mainly geared towards the offshore space, but also to a certain degree on sort of tankers and bulkers. But I would say that generally, there are several opportunities out there. We try to be relatively conservative with the deals we do, we focus -- we have a lot of focus on residual values. We are careful with buying older type equipment, and with older, I would say anything built -- which is not call it ordered after 2011, simply because you have seen a change in technology, typically engine technology, how technology has changed somewhat and therefore, that we think will have an impact on residual values at the end of the charter periods. But apart from that, we focus on counterparts and if a deal makes good sense, hopefully we can demonstrate our ability to go ahead and do that.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

And if I would ask you to rank the sectors in terms of deal flow, would it be correct to say that on the top ranks, containerships and car carriers followed by offshore and at the bottom drybulk and tankers?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

I would say the same; and also between drybulk and tankers, we see -- obviously generally, we see maybe more chartering opportunities on the tanker side than the drybulk side. There is a lot of chartering on the dry side, but you have to be very careful with your chartering counterparties. As we have seen in downturns, generally I would say, there are more chartering defaults in the drybulk sector than there is in the other sector. So that of course has an impact on how we view the different segments, and of course we have to be careful -- in all segments, you have to be very careful with who our counterparty is. But if you look at both the liner business and the offshore business, call it chartering out vessels to players here, then you're basically integrated in a logistics chain, and more so than on assets that go in sort of -- what we sort of speak in this book market. So you have a different, call it market structure in those segments.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

And without asking you to get into the Frontline restructuring and potential repayments, can you remind us what is the profit sharing agreement, if I am not mistaken, it runs for another year. Is there any discussion of potentially extending this profit sharing agreement beyond 2015, and if you can remind us the terms of this agreement?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Yes. The profit sharing agreement was basically put in place three years ago now, at the end of 2011, and the basis for that deal was that we reduce the base rates at the time by $6,500 per day for all the vessels -- for all VLCCs and Suezmaxes, and with the agreement that if the market rate was actually higher than these new reduced levels, we will get the full benefit up to the old base rates. So this is the concept of the cash split. And that agreement has run through 2012, 2013 and now in 2014, and there is one more year to go. In 2012, we got full contribution from the cash sweep -- in 2013, we got basically zero, the cost of market was very poor. But this year, we have good prospects of getting good cash sweep contribution, as we had accumulated more than $20 million already by the end of the third quarter, and with a very firmer market currently, we hope that there will be more there. There are no specific discussions on extending that specifically, but unfortunately, as I mentioned also, when I comment on Frontline, we cannot really comment on that relationship specifically, other than saying that they aren't performing on their charter obligations, they have never missed a charter payment to us; and if we go back to the restructuring, we took part in, in 2011. They did that in a very proactive fashion, where we effectively agreed on the restructuring, well ahead of the Frontline coming to, what we'd call, unanticipated default situation. We know the Frontline has ambitions to rebuild themselves into a leading tanker operator, and of course, we look forward to that.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

And maybe if I am not mistaken, there is also a profit share, beyond these levels. So are you earning, given the strength of the crude tanker market, are you earning above the level of all the fixed time charter right now?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

No. There is no earnings beyond, call it the old charter levels. The profit split -- and we have a 25% profit split over and above the original rates for those vessels, as they were sent back in 2004 and 2005 respectively. So there is a 25% split above that level, but Frontline, prepaid $50 million of this in 2011, when we restructure them. So we would have to accumulate profit splits in excess of $50 million before there would be cash payments. So therefore, in our communication to the market, we have not indicated any expectations for getting any profit split over and above those levels. Of course if that happens, we would be thrilled, but I think realistically, also because these vessels are not brand new anymore, I don't think we should give any indications that we have expectations for that to happen.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Thank you very much Ole, that's very helpful. And one last question about Seadrill. I understand that there are some discussions about extending one of the contracts of this level for West Polaris; are there any thoughts of potentially exercising their purchase option? And even if you are not aware of any thoughts, in an event that something like that happened, what are you going to do with all the cash from the proceeds, assuming that Seadrill decides to exercise their option to buy back the asset?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Well so far, on the deepwater drilling rigs, they have had multiple options to buy them. There have been two purchase options already on the West Polaris and two purchase options on West Hercules that are not being exercised. The next option is on West Taurus in February 2015, and of course as this is Seadrill's option, this is also their prerogative to exercise it or not exercise it. We have 15 year billable charters on this rig, so if its not exercised, the deal just continues as it should. And what happens if they are exercised, it could be phenomenal, a Christmas party in the company, or we would preferably reinvest the capital in the new assets and hopefully, accretive assets. So I am not so concerned, then its really more a question of, can we redeploy that capital in an effective manner.

Fotis Giannakoulis

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead

Thank you, Ole. I might have to change my Christmas plans if it does exercise.

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. We will now move to our next question from Ceki Medina from Southpaw Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Ceki Medina

Analyst · Southpaw Asset Management. Please go ahead

Good morning and afternoon gentlemen. I was wondering if you could update us on Horizon lines? There has been a transaction there. Can you please let us know, if the transaction closes, how much you would expect to get, and the P&L impacts, etcetera?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Yes, we hold some second lien notes in Horizon lines. We received those notes in connection for the restructuring in Horizon lines back in early 2012, and the face value of those notes were $40 million at that time. In addition, we also hold some warrants in Horizon lines. There has recently been announced a transaction or an agreement for a transaction, where Matson and Pasha jointly will acquire Horizon Lines or more precisely, Pasha will acquire the Hawaii assets and Matson will acquire the rest. Also in combination with Horizon Lines, they are discontinuing their Costa Rica service. This potential transaction is depending on antitrust approvals in the U.S., because these both -- for Pasha and Matson, they are all in these trade lengths already. So we do not anticipate or expect any resolution to that for quite some time, potentially later in 2015. The notes we have, have been accumulated on our payment in client basis, so we have to have it [indiscernible] upwards, and I think at quarter end, the nominal value of those notes stood at $57 million. We have conservatively recorded those notes in our books at 40% of face value, and therefore at quarter end, they stood at $22.8 million or $22.9 million, if I am not mistaken in our accounts. So again, depending on the outcome of that deal, we could potentially record a book profit relating to that deal, but in any case, that would be a fourth quarter 2014 or a later event.

Ceki Medina

Analyst · Southpaw Asset Management. Please go ahead

And your warrants are exchangeable into 10% of the company, isn't that right?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Well its $9.25 million warrants.

Ceki Medina

Analyst · Southpaw Asset Management. Please go ahead

Okay. Can you also update us -- or let me know. With respect to the time with which [indiscernible] update you, if they wanted to buy those back. What is the leadtime they would need to -- for you to make preparations for better use of the cash?

Harald Gurvin

Chief Financial Officer

Well this Harald, they have to exercise the options 60 days before the option date. So the next one is -- 60 days, yeah.

Ceki Medina

Analyst · Southpaw Asset Management. Please go ahead

Thank you.

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now move to our next question, which comes from Henry Voskoboynik of Fore Research & Management.

Henry Voskoboynik

Analyst · Fore Research & Management

Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just a follow-up on the West Taurus; if Seadrill does not get a contract or potentially to that extent, can you walk me through the billable charter agreement, and what happens to you on the rate, and kind of just walk us through the scenario please?

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Absolutely. The West Taurus is coming off charter with Petrobras in February 2015, and at that time, our charter rate, our billable charter rate will be $165,000 per day. But again with the interest adjustment, the actual, and given the low interest rate levels currently, the actual charter payments will be lower than that. But let us just use the base rate, which was based on a 4.25% LIBOR as a basis. So on average, the three rigs will then have $170,000 per day on average. And both the Polaris and Hercules still are on very firm subcharters, and just to illustrate that, the Hercules is on to Statoil until January 17, at $503,000 per day, based on the latest update from Seadrill on the webpage, and the West Polaris, the drillship, is on to ExxonMobil until March 2018, at $655,000 per day. So there is significant cash flow generated from those assets. And you can even say, if you looked at these three assets isolated, you could see that even if West Taurus was lying idle with full operating expenses, these three vessels would be probably cash positive with a good margin isolated. But I think that, its really too narrow to look at it just like that, because we have Seadrill limited as a charter and counterparty, and therefore Seadrill Ltd. is behind this with a full balance sheet. So they are obliged to pay us this billable charter, irrespective of their ability to keep that rig working or not, in the market. And what we have seen is that, Seadrill has been very good at securing long term charters for the drilling rigs. There are significant cash flows, forward cash flows for Seadrill, so we are quite confident with their ability to perform on their charter obligations to us.

Henry Voskoboynik

Analyst · Fore Research & Management

Got it. A follow-up question would seem Statoil cancel or try to get out of some of the contracts early, recently, and obviously paying penalties for it. Is there anything in your contract today, with Seadrill or with the final counterparty, is that all worth to get out of their contracts early, and even paying penalties to Seadrill. Is there any clauses in your contract with Seadrill that might get impacted in terms of the rates, and with the day rate going t base rate earlier, if the final user of the rig were to end the contract early?

Harald Gurvin

Chief Financial Officer

This is Harald. I mean, there is no requirement of any subcharters in those contracts. Our L&I -- well they are both charters, so there will not be any impact for us, we will still have to continue paying the same rate.

Henry Voskoboynik

Analyst · Fore Research & Management

And lastly you mentioned the loan balances less than 50% of the original financing amount to this page on this -- three, on to [indiscernible] can you give us a little more data, as to what exactly is the loan balance on these three vessels in?

Harald Gurvin

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah I think we can go through that. On the West Polaris, the outstanding as of the quarter end was $360 million. On the West Taurus, it was, at quarter end, $323 million, and on the West Hercules it was $291 million.

Ole Hjertaker

Management

And that of course after quarter end, this is amortizing down each month, so we are down from that level, as we speak.

Henry Voskoboynik

Analyst · Fore Research & Management

Great. Thanks very much.

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. And it appears, we have no further questions at this time. End of Q&A

Ole Hjertaker

Management

Okay. So then I would like to thank everyone for participating in our third quarter conference call, and if you have any follow-up questions, there are contact details in the press release. And with that, I would want to wish everybody a nice day, and enjoy thanksgiving on Thursday.