Matthew Reddin
Analyst · D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead
Yes, Gary. As George mentioned, when we got early into March, we didn't really know what stimulus plans were going to come out by the government and we decided early on that we were going to take care of our own liquidity issues if they did come up. We didn't have any idea what was going to be out there, a lot of unknowns.So when the 10-year hit below 40 basis points and 35, we decided it's time to take advantage of the price, the gains that we had in our security portfolio and de-risk the balance sheet basically by taking $1 billion of securities and putting it into cash, and a big chunk of that was in mortgage backs and CMOs, a small portion of it, a couple of hundred million was in munis. So, we selectively pulled some out there, picked up 30-sub million dollars in gain, built up a $1 billion in liquidity so that we were able to take care of ourselves.Well, since that time, the government came in, has put in a lot of stimulus plans. So, towards the end of the quarter, we came back and said, well, we're going to use this cash and liquidity to - as these PPP loans fund up. And, as you know, those yields on those were, first, the rates 1%. But when you put that loan fee and it gets accreted over the life of those loans, we calculate those yields are going to be anywhere from 4% to 6%, 7% depending when they are forgiven or paid off.Those - and I would tell you also those rates - the effective yield is what I would call is going to be very lumpy. You're going to have some periods that's 3%, 4%, 5%. If they're forgiven or paid off in the second and third quarter, you're going to have substantially higher rates as those fee income is recognized during that period.So, for us, it was very good timing. We can then choose to go back into the securities portfolio back in the back side of this, hopefully, when the markets more stabilized down the road. But it gave us a lot of optionality that we controlled our own destiny instead of relying on somebody else.