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Q1 2018 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 26, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Please standby. Welcome to the Royal Dutch Shell 2018 Q1 Announcement. There will be a presentation followed by Q&A session. I would like to introduce the first speaker Ms. Jessica Uhl. Please go ahead.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, operator. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Shell first quarter 2018 results call. Before we start, let me highlight the disclaimer statement. When Ben and I presented our results for 2017 three months ago, we promised to enter 2018 with discipline and confidence committed to the delivery of strong returns and cash. Today, I want to share with you how we are delivering on that promise. In today's call, I will first present our Q1 financial results, then I will update you on the growth and long-term resilience of our portfolio and I'll conclude with emphasizing our commitment to our financial framework. Let's move the results of the first quarter. Our Q1 2018 CCS earnings excluding identified items were $5.3 billion, $1.6 billion, or 42% more than in Q1 2017 and our highest earnings since Q3 2014 when the oil price averaged $102 per barrel. Earnings excluding identified items in the Upstream were 187% higher than in Q1 2017 driven by higher prices. In our Integrated Gas business, earnings excluding identified items increased by 107% compared to Q1 2017 as a result of higher prices, higher volumes and stronger contributions from trading. In Downstream, CCS earnings, excluding identified items, were 32% lower than in Q1 2017, primarily as a result of lower contributions from trading and less favorable refining market conditions. Overall, higher prices and margins were the key contributors to higher earnings in this quarter. The positive impact of lower depreciation, net interest expense and well write-offs was more than offset by higher operating expenses. The main drivers of higher operating expenses were foreign exchange effects followed by the consolidation of the costs associated with the former Motiva assets. Cash flow from operations in the quarter reached $9.4 billion and excluding working capital movements, this was $10.3…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Moving on, we'll take our first question from Oswald Clint from Bernstein.

Oswald Clint - Sanford C. Bernstein Ltd.

Analyst · Bernstein

Jessica, hi, good afternoon. While I guess given you spoke about it so much the tax and cash margining – kind of margining and impacts of the last two quarters, I don't think you've ventured with any numbers either. I mean I'd like appreciate and see if you could give us the quantum of that combined affect certainly in the last quarter, 4Q or Q1 this year please if possible. And then secondly, I was looking at your Upstream geographical split and it looks like the first quarter really since summer 2014 where all the regions are today profitable on a net income basis. So it looks like quite an achievement there. I just want to get a sense of, are those Upstream businesses by geography fully optimized here or is there still Upstream costs that can be taken out this point in the cycle or some of the potential inflationary forces are potentially starting to show up? And then I guess the unit margin per geography are probably normalized levels we can kind of use as we look forward? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you for the questions. Starting with the first, in terms of the tax impact and margin impact from a cash perspective, I'll speak to Q1 so people can immediately connect to the numbers. On a Q1 2017 to Q1 2018 perspective, our cash taxes increased by $1.3 billion. Roughly half of that was associated with increased earnings across the business, so I'd say half of that was underlying. The remainder of that was driven by the settlement of issues in various jurisdictions. We consider those things to be good outcomes but not necessarily underlying. So hopefully, that's clear in terms of the tax piece. So $1.3 billion, roughly half associated with increased profits and earnings and that would be underlying. The other piece relating to settlements which wouldn't necessarily be underlying. In terms of margining, the impact from Q1 2017 to Q1 2018 basis was an increase of roughly $700 million. So you can see there with a $1.3 billion and the $700 million, roughly a $2 billion impact on the quarter from a cash perspective versus last year, which I think largely speaks. Because whatever softness might be perceived in the cash flow numbers I believe the $10.3 billion of cash flow generation remains strong. But nonetheless, this tax impact and the margining impact were material this quarter and they're not – they're certainly not kind of underlying cash implications going forward. Just on the margin piece quickly, the margin piece works itself out through time. These are derivative positions that are matched with underlying physical positions. As those underlying positions roll out, this margining, whether it's positive or negative, is essentially offset by what happens in the underlying. So I think that's important to keep in mind in terms of thinking about the net impact of the…

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question that will come from Christopher Kuplent from Bank of America.

Christopher Kuplent - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America

Sorry, having trouble with my mute button. Hi, Jessica. Just wanted to ask you one question upfront. Where do you see opportunities right now when you look at your $25 billion to $30 billion budget that you've described and you made the point that it's capturing organic as well as inorganic opportunities. Now when I look at Q1, it looks like light, but you know that's probably a feature of many Q1s. Just wonder whether you would want to comment around whether that is a fair reflection, a fair assumption and how you feel opportunities are currently lining up between your organic FID options, we've seen Vito, you've talked about it, versus inorganic options that would be included in that bucket. Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Christopher. Indeed our organic capital investment for the quarter was around $4.4 billion and that is one of the lighter quarters that we've had. We've been clear in terms of our capital investment profile running between $25 billion and $30 billion per annum that guidance hasn't changed. We expect to be at the lower end of that. And in that sense, we would expect some pickup in capital spend as we go through the year. So there's some phasing that's impacting the quarter. I'd like to just take the opportunity though to point out a couple of things. I think it's a good proof point in terms of the discipline we're continuing to demonstrate in the company with respect to capital. As oil prices are running up, you're not seeing capital investment growing at the same pace. So we're continuing to ensure that we're picking the right projects and we're executing the projects in the most effective way and continuing to drive the capital efficiency agenda in the organization. We think we'll still end up on the lower end of the range as we get to the end of the year but of course, we're continuing to look for opportunities to drive capital efficiency. What we found with our projects such as (00:27:46), even post FID when we're developing those projects we're were finding real opportunities in terms of reducing well cost, project costs, et cetera. So we are continuing to drive that but nonetheless, we would expect to end up between the $25 billion and – at the low end of the $25 billion to $30 billion range and I would expect most of that to be organic.

Christopher Kuplent - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Bank of America

Great. That's fine. Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you. Next question please.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Lydia Rainforth from Barclays.

Lydia Rainforth - Barclays Capital Securities Ltd.

Analyst · Barclays

Thanks and hi Jessica. Two quick questions actually. And the first one and if I come back to the share repurchase plan, I mean I take your points around some of the seasonality within that. But do you – I guess get to the point where you might run out of time to actually deliver all of that $25 billion over that 2018 to 2020 period? And then secondly just hopefully just tidying up a bit, on Prelude (00:28:40), when do you actually expect the start up from that?

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Lydia. On the share buybacks, let me start. First of all, the intent and our commitment to the share buybacks is clear and want to emphasize that point. We're not worried about time in terms of achieving that within that timeframe. So that's not necessarily an issue. I think what I've tried to lay out is that first of all, the intention is clear. Our financial framework has been clear, in terms of our cash priorities and getting our net debt where we want it to be, maintaining the capital discipline and we're trying to be clear in terms of our decision framework, be very principled in our decisions and make sure we have the right sequence in terms of when we do things, so much like what we did with taking the scrip off in November of the year. So trying to demonstrate commitment to these principles and getting the right sequence right in a supportive macro with continued delivery from an operational perspective and a cash proceed perspective should create the conditions for us to start the share buyback program and work towards delivering on the $25 billion commitment. On Prelude, the project is going well in terms of hookup and startup and we've indicated that startup would happen in 2018 and we're still on track for that to happen. Thank you.

Lydia Rainforth - Barclays Capital Securities Ltd.

Analyst · Barclays

Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Alastair Syme from Citi.

Alastair R. Syme - Citigroup Global Markets Ltd.

Analyst · Citi

Thank you. Jessica, two questions. Can you say how much Groningen produced in the first quarter and how that – and what was the level of producing first quarter 2017 for comparison? And secondly, I wondered, there's been a little bit of trade press around LNG Canada, I wonder if you can just remind us around where that project sits in the Shell portfolio of opportunities and how you think the market conditions are for that project to proceed? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Alastair, for the questions. Starting with the Groningen, perhaps just to provide a bit of perspective. So an important decision was made by the government in terms of how to manage that asset and support transitioning out of gas supply from the NAM. We, as a company and a shareholder, remain fully committed to the asset and are working with all the stakeholders to manage that to the best outcome possible. That was an important decision in terms of expected production profile over the next decade that led to NAM writing off that asset, which in turn led to our writing off that asset. It was really primarily accounting treatment. We'll continue to produce from that assets or NAM will continue to produce. It is expected for the next decade. Though a number of important details need to be managed and are continuing to be worked, so I'd say it's a relatively dynamic circumstance. From a financial perspective and the impact on Shell, there was an impairment this quarter of some $240 million that was the main implication for Shell. We're also expecting that there will be some write-down in reserves by the end of the year, again important details need to be worked to finalize those numbers, but that is expected and that was indicated in the QRA itself. On LNG Canada, so first of all, we remain very bullish on the LNG market. We continue to see very strong demand in a number of markets, particularly in Asia that supported very strong pricing in the quarter. You've seen that come through in our results and overall the LNG business continues to be a real source of strength for us and we believe the market fundamentals will support that going into the 2020s. We also believe that there will likely be a shortage in LNG supply coming into the 2020s and that new liquefaction capacity will be needed, again, we think the fundamentals support that. So for us it's a question of how best to source it and we look at buying options and we look at building options. We've got a number of build options in the portfolio. LNG Canada is one of the many good options that we have. It's relatively advanced in the funnel versus all of the others in the funnel. And the question will be ensuring that it is the most competitive project and we get the timing right in terms of when those volumes would come on stream. Thank you. Next question?

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Jon Rigby from UBS.

Jon Rigby - UBS Ltd.

Analyst · UBS

Yes. Thank you for taking my call. I just have two questions. Firstly, I noticed on the CapEx guidance, you talked about $25 billion to $30 billion and you clarified organic and inorganic. Can you just also clarify whether the lower end of that range guidance for 2018 is also on that basis, so both organic and any inorganic activity that you might have. The second question is just going back to Lydia's question is if I go back and look historically, Shell has had active buybacks before and quite aggressive ones. And I don't think it's really ever done much more than $2 billion or so of stock in any one year. And you might argue that those periods probably volumes traded were higher. So, is there some regard to that situation? Maybe, you do have some capacity constraints around being able to complete, which is – something which is quite a large buyback promise over the course of what is rapidly looking like about two and a half years or so. So you are comfortable that there is capacity in the market to conduct that buyback. Thanks.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Jon. Starting with your first question on capital investment to be clear, we are committed to being at the low end of the range to include both inorganic and organic capital spend in 2018. And we are committed to that because we are committed to increasing shareholder distributions. We're clear about our financial framework. We're clear about our priorities. We're driving down our debt. We've reconfirmed our commitment to the dividends by taking off the scrip in November. We're clear on our capital investment profile and we're doing everything we can to increase free cash flow to initiate the buyback program. So that is a priority of management, that's a priority of the company. In terms of our capacity to deliver on the $25 billion, we look at these things carefully and there can be real constraints in terms of market abuse regulations and things like that. So we're very aware of potential constraints. We have that all in mind in terms of how we're thinking about our ability to deliver. But again, we take the commitment seriously and we're putting levers in place for us to move into the ability to start that commencement of the share buyback program and drive towards delivery of the $25 billion between 2018 and 2020.

Jon Rigby - UBS Ltd.

Analyst · UBS

Clear. Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Thomas Adolff from Credit Suisse. Thomas Adolff - Credit Suisse Securities (Europe) Ltd.: Hey, Jessica. Two questions for me as well, please. Firstly just on the disposal plans and obviously you've made good progress there. So it's understandable that the process is slowing down by intuitively, it should be the opposite with oil north at $70. And if I remember correctly, beyond the $30 billion plan, you've also talked about looking to kind of sell around 3% of your capital employed. So in theory, in a $70-plus world, the whole thing should be accelerating and you may want to or you could potentially deliver in excess of $30 billion by the end of 2018 or not. So I just wanted to kind of better understand the thought process. And the second question is on the oil price and the budget. Presumably, at the start of the year or at the end of last year, you clearly didn't budget with an oil price of $70, now, let's say it was $60 or less, so in essence you are generating surplus funds. And I wondered when it comes in regards to the surplus funds, whether it's $10 or $15 over your budget, is the financial framework the same, is it so as (00:38:10) debt reduction before going to buybacks or you're more flexible around inorganic opportunities since you are generating now extra cash flow from a higher oil price? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Thomas. Starting with the disposal approach or philosophy, first piece of that is not only have we been trying to raise funds to delever the company post BG, but importantly with BG acquisition and a number of new assets coming into the portfolio, combined with further clarity in terms of our strategy and the portfolio we wanted to achieve, it gave us the opportunity to optimize the portfolio and align the portfolio to our strategy. And that has been an important driver over the last three years. We're very comfortable and confident in terms of how that program has progressed. And we're pleased with how we've reshaped the portfolio and I think you see that coming through in terms of higher margins, higher cash flow generation across the business in today's price environment, particularly relative to prices in the $100. A big part of that is performance, but also a big part of that is our portfolio and how we've reshaped it through the divestment program and by the ramp up of new projects. I'd also say that we're pleased with how we've sold those assets and the price levels we've achieved with those assets. And so we were very careful and somewhat slow at the start because we wanted to make sure we achieved the right price level in those assets. And I'd say that we achieved essentially price levels that weren't in line with the prevailing price at the time. And so we've been able to achieve very competitive outcomes in terms of the price and even retain some upside should prices increase in some of the transactions. So I wouldn't say that the increase in the oil price necessarily changes our strategy or creates necessarily new opportunities for us. We'll continue to optimize the portfolio.…

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Christyan Malek from JPMorgan.

Christyan F. Malek - JPMorgan Securities Plc

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hi Jessica, thanks for taking my questions. Just two, if I may. First, your cash breakevens have edged up over the last few quarters from mid-40s in Q3 to mid-50s in Q4 to mid-60 in Q1. And while that's arguably not representative to track on a trailing basis, I understand all the seasonality. I want to understand why the upward trend – or put it another way, why are higher oil prices failing to translate into proportionate movement of free cash flow on a year-on-year basis? I mean given oil is some 20% higher year-on-year, yet your free cash flow is down about a similar amount. The second question pertains to decline rates and how you see them trending when your matures over (00:43:22) the medium term in light of the industry seemingly be able to manage it below 3%? And linked to that delivering a cash breakeven at below $35 a barrel in Vito, suggests that deflation and the cost curve remains a key area of upside. So I was wondering, do you think we've bottomed or is there more to do particularly in the areas like deep-water? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Christyan. Very good question on the cash piece. So let me frame that or try and address that in kind of a larger frame in terms of what's happening from a cash perspective. So again, underlying cash generation for the business is fundamentally strong, particularly if you look at the cash generation today relative to what it was at $100 a barrel. And so I think the fundamentals there in terms of the performance of the business and the increase in cash margins that we're achieving across the business are there. Nonetheless, there have been elements of the cash story that hasn't fully come through. I touched on some of those before. Again, we've had some unusual tax payments that aren't underlying. We have those both in Q4 and in Q1. It is a bit unfortunate to have those two quarters in a row, because it sounds a bit more like underlying. But I personally believe these are not underlying movements, these are settlements that are difficult to predict and to time. But it would not be what we would expect on a go forward basis. We have the cash margining piece, which has also been tied to the rise in oil prices, that's also had an impact. Again, the underlying business aspects of that are good and it reflects just a derivative position at a moment in time. But again that relates to our Integrated Gas business. Q1 was a record quarter for Integrated Gas. What you're seeing in Integrated Gas is very strong cash generation in Q1, over the last four quarter basis. So to the extent there is a concern around the margining aspect, I would point to these things will work themselves out over time because there is a match between the derivative position…

Christyan F. Malek - JPMorgan Securities Plc

Analyst · JPMorgan

And just a quick follow-up on the cash flow point. Are divestments on the critical path of your buyback? I just wanted to understand the relationship between divestments and buyback, i.e. if you don't deliver the $6 billion to $8 billion that you've sort of intimated, will you still do the buyback in the quantum that you've talked about?

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

The divestment program has been an important part of our gearing story. And so again, we're managing the entire financial framework. We make all of these decisions on a holistic integrated basis. There's not one number, one metric we look to. Unfortunately, it would be – make all of these conversations perhaps easier, if that were the case, but I can sincerely say that these are very important decisions. We want them robust. We want them principle-based. We want them to stand the test of time. We want them to stand volatile conditions rather than being kind of of-the-moment and not resilient. And so with that in mind, yes the divestments are an important part of our de-gearing agenda, as it has been and that is an important component, but it's not the only component. And again looking across the macro, the performance of the business, the deliveries, the divestment program, all of those elements will come into play in terms of when we commence the buyback program. Thank you.

Christyan F. Malek - JPMorgan Securities Plc

Analyst · JPMorgan

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Theepan Jothilingam from Exane BNP.

Theepan Jothilingam - Exane Ltd.

Analyst · Exane BNP

Yeah. Hi, good afternoon. It's Theepan. Hi Jessica. I had one question. Just you mentioned $5 billion of cash flow from new growth projects. So I was wanting to know how much did the new growth projects contribute in Q1, so we can sort of model ahead. And then just coming back to the buyback, I just want a point of clarity. Is the buyback – will it be prioritized over adding further resources or adding further resources to the Shell portfolio that's not inorganic and in your $25 billion?

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Let me start with the first the second question. So the share buybacks are the first priority for excess cash. So, again, as I laid out in the speech and I think I spoke through a moment ago, our cash is prioritized debt, dividends, capital investment then share buybacks. Given the performance of the business and the macro, you would expect excess cash generation to happen and with that excess cash, we will not be looking to make further investments. Now, we're very clear we want to make value accretive decisions. The $25 billion of capital investments, both organic and inorganic, were the low end of the range of $25 billion to $30 billion, will allow us to grow our resource base. Embedded in that number is the funds necessary to deliver on our strategic ambition across the company and we have growth aspirations across most of our strategic themes. So that is built into the financial framework, that's built into our thinking. You can see some of that activity coming through. We're getting more resources through the successful outcomes we've had in a number of the exploration rounds in Brazil, Gulf of Mexico, U.S., as well as Mexico. So we're clearly investing in our future and in our resources. The Whale discovery would be another good example of how we are ensuring we have resources for the future. Of course, we need to find the right balance between securing the future, investing in the future and ensuring we provide the right level of distributions to our shareholders. We believe at the low end of the $25 billion to $30 billion range, we can balance all of that. We can grow the company; we can secure resources for the future. And in the right macro environment, in the right financial framework, we can increase shareholder distributions and deliver on the $25 billion intent and deliver on our world-class investment case ambition. In terms of the $5 billion and on a quarter basis, I would say, just stick with the $5 billion for the year. I think that's probably the easiest way to do it. And as I said, $10 billion for 2018 to 2020. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Rob West from – oh, I'm sorry Biraj Borkhataria from Royal Bank of Canada.

Biraj Borkhataria - RBC Europe Ltd.

Analyst · Canada

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I had a couple of questions. The first one was on Vito. You've obviously done some excellent work getting the costs down. I was wondering through that process are you sacrificing anything and when you compare the new concept versus the old concept in terms of longevity of the project or recovery rates, et cetera, any comments around that would be helpful. And then the second question is just following up on Alastair's question on LNG Canada. Are there any comments you can make on costs for that project. I believe the only CapEx budget in the market is from a few years ago and it's probably quite stable, but some of your peers are talking about getting LNG projects done in a $500 a ton to $1,000 a ton range, is that realistic for LNG Canada? Thanks.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Great. Thank you. First question on Vito, indeed it's one of my favorite stories in the company. It's really impressive what the team has delivered. I saw Vito four years ago in its original incarnation when I was working in Houston and then to see it come through in terms of FID in the last couple of months and see how that project has been transformed is really a pretty amazing thing to watch within the company. And what it represents was the team really taking a fresh look at how can we do this business fundamentally differently, how can we leverage simpler design principles, industry standards, a more risk-based approach in terms of how we think about the asset and think about value differently. So there is a number of elements that came together in all of that. An important piece from a value perspective, speaking to your point around recoveries is you can potentially recover more from a given resource, but you need to pay attention to how much capital that might require. And I think in the past in very high oil price environments, the industry tended to go for volume and not necessarily maximizing value. And Vito is an example of looking at how do we maximize the value of this project, which may mean potentially lower recovery rates, but in terms of the overall value proposition, improving the value proposition, which is the case with this project. But, of course, also makes it more resilient, you have a lower breakeven price, you have shorter payback period, et cetera. But overall a more robust and a more attractive project from an investor profile perspective, which I think is really important. And as I mentioned, that thinking is part of the deep-water organization and how we're looking at a number of our projects or how we're running the business today and bringing that thinking and ensuring that thinking exists in all parts of the company. In terms of LNG Canada and costs, again we're looking to ensure that our future LNG supply is the most competitive. There is a number of elements to something being – to determining whether the marginal kind of LNG is competitive. You'll have the cost of the project, you'll have the cost of the gas and you'll have the cost of the shipping. All of those elements need to come into play. So it's not just one variable that you need to consider when trying to think about the delivered cost to a given customer. That's how we're thinking about it and we're looking to ensure that whatever decision we make on a buy and/or build basis is the most competitive on an integrated basis, delivered. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Rob West from Redburn. Rob West - Redburn (Europe) Ltd.: Thank you very much. I'd like to ask a couple of quick ones on the quarter. When oil prices were going down, there were these beneficial parachute effects in the Downstream business. And as they've been going back up, I wonder is there any weakening of the reported result caused by that lag effect where you get higher input costs immediately, and pass on those higher costs slower? And if you quantify that that would be helpful. Second quick quarterly one is just on the LNG volumes, and should I think about that $18.5 million ton number as a normal number? Or was that extra trading that came through that because of the very strong industry conditions? If you put any numbers around that would be great. And then the final one, sorry to go to three, I was just curious on the decision to write (01:00:09) down to zero on the balance sheet. Can you talk about that zero number and why it's zero? And just are there any – just to rule it out, no provisions on the other side of that, that we need to be aware of? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Rob. Starting with your first question on the impact of the increase in oil prices on the Downstream business, indeed an important part of the Downstream story for Q1 was the softening of refining margins that we saw across our portfolio. So refining margins declined by some 10%, 20%. So there were – macro conditions were an important part of the story. In our Marketing business on the other hand, in our Commercial Fuels businesses, they had strong Q1s on a Q1 to Q1 basis above on an underlying basis. And of course, our Chemicals business had another strong quarter as well. Q1 last year, particularly was a record quarter, but we're above consensus for Chemicals and again a very solid Q1. So indeed, Downstream, Integrated business, you need to think of each of its parts, Marketing, Commercial Fuels, Chemicals, strong quarters, Refining & Trading impacted by the macro and Refining margins in particular and some softness in Tradings. LNG volumes in terms of thinking about what's driving that and is that – kind of will continue at those levels or go higher, you'll see that it's been trending up. I think again an important part of the story is what you're seeing in the Integrated Gas business and in our LNG trading business is the – what I consider the success of the BG transaction and the integration of that business into Shell. An important part of that was accelerating the growth of our LNG business. You're seeing that happening. And another important piece of that was combining the trading capability that BG had as well as that Shell had. And again I think you are seeing the benefit of that coming through where we now have a unmatched network of LNG supply as well as access…

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Irene Himona from SG. Irene Himona - Société Générale SA (UK): Thank you. Good afternoon, Jessica. I had two questions, please. Firstly on tax, can you share with us whether there are any material remaining tax disputes, which you may decide to settle in the rest of the year? Or if you can't, then if can you say whether we should be using this year a cash flow tax rate assumption including or excluding the $1.3 billion? In other words, is it going to be 9% or 19%? And my second question, you made quite a number of disclosure and definitional changes in your quarterly statement today, which is useful. If I pick on one which is that you started disclosing the pre and post-tax identified item, but of course you do not disclose a conventional adjusted income statement. So it's very difficult for us to make use of all the information. My question really is, is there an intention at some stage to also align your financial reporting as regards the income statement to, let's say, your European peers? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Irene. Starting with your first question on the disputes, the number that I spoke to in the speech was a $1 billion impact associated with disputes over the last 12 months. So I think that's a good indication in terms of the total impact associated with disputes that we would consider somewhat unusual and not necessarily underlying. There is no major disputes anticipated to be flowing through. Of course these things are not fully predictable nor entirely in our control. Again, I think the fundamentals of what's happening in the space are good, in terms of resolution and matters. So I think I'm comfortable and pleased in terms of what's happening and why things are happening. We're trying to provide clarity in terms of the financial implications and what we've deemed to be not necessarily underlying and that's the $1 billion amount. I don't have anything on the horizon. However, these things are entirely within our control. So I'd want to caveat that. I think on the disclosure matter, just a couple of things there. The QRA, we did make important changes. The goal there was really to provide more transparency, more clarity and make it easier for people to make connections between say the working capital on the balance sheet and in the cash flow statement and also to bring more transparency to the derivative elements of the financial statements. And I think it's an important step forward and hopefully, you'll all find that useful because that was entirely the intent to bring more transparency and ease of use of our QRA. In terms of your follow-on statement, are there other changes you think might be relevant, I'd suggest I'll have IR follow up with you and see specifically what you have in mind if there is perhaps further improvements you think might be necessary. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Lucas Herrmann from Deutsche Bank.

Lucas Herrmann - Deutsche Bank AG

Analyst · Deutsche Bank

Yeah. Thanks very much. Afternoon Jessica. Just a couple of quick ones, if I might. First, a chunk of the growth the next two years is coming from the Permian. I just wonder whether in the near term to what extent, do you maybe facing or seeing constraints there? It feels as though that part of the industry is sort of just say hotter and more active than anywhere else in terms of activity and bottlenecks? Secondly, last six months, in terms of the level of interest in your potential disposal, are you seeing the market free up? Notably you're finding that others are coming to you. Well, certainly showing more enthusiasm than they might have done previously. And thirdly, you talk about recycling capital and the level of divestments per annum. If I think about your capital employed or your production in its entirety, what proportion of the business or what amount of the business sits in the – I'm going to use the phrase question mark camp i.e., how much choice is there around divestments for you now? Ben used to talk in ways about the first $30 billion program and the potential second $30 billion program. I'm not suggesting for a moment that another program is on its way, but it's really just to get a scale of – or an indication of the extent to which you have choice around divestment. Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Lucas. Indeed, we have strong growth ambitions for our Permian business and I mentioned that in the speech earlier in terms of we expect material growth to be happening with our Permian asset over the coming years. Indeed, it is a hot part of the industry and there have been midstream constraints. That's always been part of our planning and strategy and that's true across the U.S. It goes part and parcel to building your business. You need to make sure you've got the integrated view of getting product to market and ensuring you've got the right processing and pipeline capacity in line. So what I would say is that goes hand-in-hand with our strategy and ambition to grow the business. We need to make sure that those pieces are in play. There can be short-term constraints and you can see that happening to some of the players, again that is – we've got teams working on this, we've got a very strong trading capability that also supports in this area. This is one of the areas where having our strong North America trading business and being an integrated company can also help us have the capability in the organization to manage these issues and ultimately help manage some of the risk from a trading perspective or from an asset development perspective. Your question around kind of what's left in the portfolio and is there another $30 billion? I mean, I think – frankly, I mean, there's always the option to sell, so that's always the case. What I would say is that and I mentioned it earlier that we've put a lot of thought from a strategy and portfolio perspective into the choices we've made around our divestment program. And I'd say most of the large decisions…

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Jason Gammel from Jefferies.

Jason Gammel - Jefferies International Ltd.

Analyst · Jefferies

Yes, thanks very much. Two from me please. First of all, the noise that has caused with the cash flow on the last couple of quarters have highlighted the derivative positions that you're taking in the LNG business. I'm actually really just trying to take a step back and understand tactically why you're hedging that business in any event? And generally, you have used the strength of the balance sheet as your hedge against commodity prices. So really trying to understand why you would essentially diverge from that, especially given that you're dealing with counterparties that are evidently expecting a company of Shell's creditworthiness to actually post cash margin. Second question is on the Corrib divestiture. Don't recall seeing anything about that transaction closing and I noticed it was not on the slide that was detailing the further pending transaction. So, I apologize if I missed something here. But can you just talk about the status of that particular divestiture?

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

I'm sorry, I missed – Jason, I'm sorry, did you reference a specific divestment?

Jason Gammel - Jefferies International Ltd.

Analyst · Jefferies

Yes. The Corrib divestiture, the natural gas asset in Ireland.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Great. Starting with the first question on the derivative positions and why we're doing that, so first of all, it impacts a relatively small part of our portfolio just to be clear. So less than 15%, 20% would be impacted by our hedging program. It's really quite specific, it's – in the instances where we're by the nature of the contractual arrangements, we have cross commodity exposure. So it's in the circumstances where we believe it would be difficult for us to manage that cross commodity exposure, we've put these hedges in place. So it's a relatively small part of the portfolio. That's why we provide guidance in terms of the rule of thumb with a $10 increase in the price, you see a $2 billion increase in CFFO from our Integrated Gas business, which wouldn't be possible if the entire portfolio were hedged. So to be clear, it's a relatively small part of the position. It's driven by cross commodity exposure. But as you said, otherwise, we ride commodity exposure, that's not something we necessarily try and manage out of the portfolio, it's really this particular circumstance. In terms of divestments and closing, we continue to work on the closing of Corrib. There is a few other assets as well. We expected it to close in 2018, so that isn't necessarily a surprise. There is always different elements that can take more or less with any of these transactions, but it continues to be worked along with other transactions that we have signed and have yet to close, that's kind of normal course of business with the divestment program. Thank you. Next question?

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Iain Reid from Macquarie. Iain Reid - Macquarie Capital (Europe) Ltd.: Hi, Jessica. Just a couple of things. Firstly, most of your peers have raised their dividends over the last couple of quarters. I wonder whether this might be something which investors would prefer rather than what's becoming a rather a squeezed amount of time as Jon Rigby was saying in order to actually get your this rather large share buyback done over the next two-and-a-half years. And have you thought about that and where does that fit into this kind of cash management strategy you outlined? And on the second point, just kind of a matter of clarification, on the Integrated Gas performance, as you say, it was a very strong quarter. Just on slide 23, where you show this big other number, I presume that is the – or most of that is the gas trading comparison between the quarters, could you just clarify that? Thanks a lot.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Great. Thank you. On your first question on dividend levels and the share buyback, we continue to offer very healthy dividend levels with our share price. The share buyback program is front of mind. I hope that I've conveyed that today. I think what we're trying to demonstrate is a clear financial framework, a clear intent, the principles that underlie that and to be consistent with those principles. I'm hoping this will ultimately be rewarded that we were clear on the basis of making our decisions and we stayed consistent with those principles as we worked through our financial framework and delivered on each of our commitments. As I said, we remain committed to the $25 billion and we're looking to deliver that between 2018 to 2020. We want to deliver a world class investment case. We want to be number one in terms of total shareholder return. We understand that we need to increase shareholder distributions to deliver on that world class investment case. That's a clear part of our financial framework. It's a clear part of our world class investment case. And that's why I keep going back to this cascade of priorities and what we believe it'll take to move to the share buyback program, a good macro environment, strong underlying performance, delivery on the divestment program, all of which should create the conditions for us to commence the share buyback program. So the question you had on Integrated Gas, indeed, the other relates to – essentially to trading. So I think that's a pretty clear answer. Onto the next question, please?

Operator

Operator

Moving on, we'll take our next question from Colin Smith from Panmure Gordon. Colin Saville Smith - Panmure Gordon (UK) Ltd.: Hi, Jess. Thanks for taking my question. Two please. First of all just on the Refining & Trading result, that looked pretty weak, despite the sort of weakness in margins we had and the lower refining availability and I just wondered if you could give us a bit more color around that? And then secondly on the derivatives again, is there anything you can give us to look at that might give us a chance of getting a feel for what the movement quarter-to-quarter might be. Because while you mentioned it's a relatively small part of the total exposure you've got, it did damage cash flows, which were otherwise about 10% or short 10% lighter than they would have been otherwise? Thank you.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Colin. Starting with the Downstream question and the Refining & Trading performance for the first quarter, as I spoke to earlier, main drivers for that softer performance Q1 2018 versus the Q1 2017 in particular were soft refining margins, a weaker macro for the business and softer trading results. Q1 2017 had particularly strong trading results. So that's generated an important part of the swing in the business. And the refining piece some 10% to 20% softer realized refining margins across the business, particularly in Europe, we were impacted. So it's really those two elements. On the trading piece, I'd like to note that I think it is somewhat difficult to assess the performance of the trading business on a quarterly basis. Again, it's something that I think you need to look through the cycle and see the overall performance of this business over the last 12 months and on average, the trading business continues to generate significant value for our Downstream business. As a counterpoint, it made an important contribution for the Integrated Gas business, which we were just speaking to. And so, this is a little bit the nature of trading. But, on the whole, if you look through the cycle, you see very strong Downstream performance, Refining & Trading performance over the last 12 months and similarly, in Integrated Gas with trading being an important component of that. In terms of the derivatives piece, what I would say is we've thought to provide a lot more transparency in the QRA and hopefully, that can take some mystery away from the numbers and provide clarity where it's needed. I've given you a sense of the impact in 2018 versus 2017, which was a $700 million margin impact for the quarter. You can get a sense of that in terms of the change in price and the relationship to that margin, but it's a tricky area. It's not an entirely straightforward area to explain and that's not because I want to be mysterious, but it's the nature of derivative accounting. So I would encourage you to probably spend some time with the IR team just talking through some of the new disclosures and how to think about these numbers. And again, I think, the important piece there is if you look through the cycle, these margining positions move as the forward curve moves up and down. As the underlying transactions happen, the physical element of that hedge arrangement comes through, these things offset one another. But, for more detail, I think it's worth spending a little bit of time with the IR team and talking through the disclosures in a bit more detail to make sure it's sufficiently clear. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And moving on, we'll take our final question from Martijn Rats from Morgan Stanley. Martijn Rats - Morgan Stanley & Co. International Plc: Hi, hello, Jessica. It's Martijn. Hey, I wanted to ask you two things. First of all, I don't want to sort of repeat Christyan Malek's question from earlier on about cash generation, but I have to – it is quite noteworthy that now for the fourth quarter in a row we've had net debt pretty much precisely at $66 billion. The balance sheet de-gearing that was finding quite a nice pace since sort of late 2016, early 2017, is sort of pretty much completely stalled over the last four quarters. And it's interesting in the context of, as you describe, a very healthy operating performance of the business, oil prices have reached levels that a year ago we wouldn't be dreaming of and also you've vastly outperformed in terms of the pace of disposals. Yet – despite all these things, net debt is still going down and I know that every quarter there are things around tax payments and margin requirements and all that type of stuff, but it compounded over sort of pretty much a year now, is there something else that prevents gearing from going down or are we going to see from here on quite a sharp reacceleration of balance sheet gearing? I'm still hoping you could say something about that because if you're stuck at that level of 25% and Ben has talked a lot about line of sight of 20%, I guess, that probably also plays with the buyback program from 25% to 20%, at the current pace, we could be waiting for that for quite a long time. The second thing I wanted to ask you is perhaps a bit more technical, but I wanted to ask you about unifications of the As and the B shares, I mean the Dutch government has made some progress on dividend withholding tax. We've seen the situation around Unilever. I was wondering if there's any update on that topic.

Jessica Uhl - Royal Dutch Shell Plc

Management

Thank you, Martijn. On cash generation and net debt gearing, what's happening, are we going to really achieve the 20%, I think is your question and why isn't it moving faster? First, let me highlight what we have done. So since the high point in I believe Q3 2016, we've paid down $13 billion of debt and in the last 12 months it's been a $10 billion reduction. So without kind of tying back to your numbers on the four-quarter basis, $10 billion reduction has happened over the last year. The commitment is clear. We're paying down the maturities as they come due and we have material maturities happening this year and next, which should be closed out as they mature. There have been a number of unusual cash items that I've spoken to before, maybe I'd highlight two other things that happened in this quarter that also impacted net debt. Of course, we took the scrip off. We had full cash dividend payment this quarter of $4 billion that compared to some $2.3 billion in dividend payments in the fourth quarter. So that's another $1.7 billion of cash that went to dividend payments. Another piece in the quarter was we purchased shares for our employee share plan, that was roughly $800 million. So there was some sizable uses of cash in the quarter, completely understandable, has nothing to do with performance, nothing to do with the capacity to generate cash. But those were elements that also contributed to relatively soft decrease in net debt. Again, the commitment remains strong for us to get to line of sight and delivery of the 20%, that is part of our financial framework. We're trying to balance all of these things. And as I mentioned earlier, to remain principle in our choices, however,…

Operator

Operator

And again, that will conclude today's conference. We do thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.