Anthony J. Allott - Silgan Holdings, Inc.
Management
Well, again, if you take our 9% out of those numbers, you find that they look quite a bit better than that. So I think that was the main point I was on. I think what we've always described is a kind of a flattish market. I mean when Silgan first got in, there was high 20-some billion food cans. This year, there'll probably be 27 billion food cans, something like that. So we still view this as more or less a flat market. Now, there's a lot paddling underneath the water that you're not seeing. So you've got markets that are growing and becoming bigger. Pet food is an example of that. Protein, certain kinds of protein are examples of that. You've got ready-to-serve soups, by the way, that are an example and you're seeing – particularly we see organic, and that's in cans. So I mean there's a little thing about alternative packages. If you look at a good product in organic in a can, consumers like it and they're buying it a lot. And so, a lot of our customers have figured out how do they tap that vein with whatever package they need to do it. And then like I said, I think they'll still come back to the can in any case over time. So when we talk cans, there's a lot to it, there's market sort of growing and becoming bigger part that makes a lot of sense. There are markets like fruit that I've said it seems to be logical, you're going to continue to see some decline. Veg, we talked about as one big category, but you look at tomatoes which are in that veg grouping, and tomatoes have been really good. It's a great package for – primarily for institutional use. It's been very good. Corn has been fine. So, when you think fruit, it's peas doing a degree, green beans, pumpkin. Those are the areas where you're seeing most of the activity. And again, some of that will continue. But some of those markets are getting smaller and smaller. Fruits now, 3% of the market. So, at some point, it becomes – its decline become less relevant than the growth of some of the other ones that have emerged. And so, that is why we feel really good about the food can market over time.