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Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 3, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing-by. Welcome to the Super Micro Computer, Incorporated. Fourth Quarter and Fiscal 2017 Conference Call. The company’s news release issued earlier today is available from its website at www.supermicro.com. In addition, during today’s call, the company will refer to a slide presentation and the CFO commentary which can be accessed in a downloadable PDF format on its website at www.supermicro.com in the Investor Relations section under the Events & Presentations tab. During the company’s presentation all participants will be in a listen-only mode. After word securities analysis we’ll be invited to participate in question-and-answer session, but the entire call is open to all participants on a listen-only basis. As a reminder this call is being recorded, today’s Thursday, August 3, 2017. A replay of the call will be accessible until midnight, Thursday, August 17, 2017, by dialing 1 (844) 512-2921 and entering replay pin 7567416. International callers should dial 1 (412) 317-6671. With us today are Charles Liang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Howard Hideshima, Chief Financial Officer; and Perry Hayes, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. And now I’d like to turn the conference over to Mr. Hayes. Mr. Hayes, please go ahead, sir.

Perry Hayes

Management

Good afternoon everyone and thank you for attending Super Micro’s conference call on financial results for the fourth quarter and fiscal 2017, which ended June 30, 2017. By now you should have received a copy of today’s news release that was distributed at the close of regular trading and is available on the company’s website. As a reminder, during today’s call, the company will refer to a presentation as well as the CFO commentary that is available to participants in the Investor Relations section of the company’s website under the Events & Presentations tab. Before we start, I’ll remind you that our remarks include forward-looking statements. There are a number of risk factors that could cause Super Micro’s future results to differ materially from our expectations. You can learn more about these risks in the press release we issued earlier this afternoon, our Form 10-K for fiscal 2016 and our other SEC filings. All of those documents are available from the Investor Relations page of Super Micro’s website. We assume no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Most of today’s presentation will refer to non-GAAP financial results and outlooks. An explanation of our non-GAAP financial measures can be found in our slide presentation or in our press release published earlier today. In addition, a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results is contained in today’s press release and in the supplemental information attached to today’s presentation. I’ll now turn the call over to Charles Liang, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer.

Charles Liang

Chairman

Thank you, Perry and good afternoon everyone. Let me summarize our fourth quarter. Revenue was $717.9 million. It’s 36.9% higher year-over-year and 13.7% higher than the previous quarter. Non-GAAP net income was $20.7 million. Non-GAAP earnings per share was $0.39 per diluted share compared to $0.38 last quarter and $0.20 last year. Non-GAAP EPS was 95.8% higher year-over-year and 20% higher than last quarter. Super Micro achieved new record high in revenue in the first quarter which exceeded our expectations. Throughout fiscal 2017 our revenue was over $2.5 billion or 14% better than last year. We’ve been remarkable is that our fiscal 2017 second half achieved 37.6% growth over last year, which is many multiples higher than the overall industry and any other Tier 1 vendors, which owes our payments rates and some momentum as we finish the fiscal year and coming to a major technology refresh cycle [indiscernible] Super Micro had built a strong foundation, for sustaining high gross, while maintaining profitability every quarter for 24 years. Over the last three year, we’ve made a significant investment in global production capacity operations, system solutions, quality, global service and management software. In [indiscernible] our engineering staff by over 60% bringing the most advanced in both these portfolio of server and storage, global service and management software to the market. [indiscernible] investment that we are proud the new Supermicro 3.0. Supermicro 3.0, positions us as the fastest growing Tier-1 IT Infrastructure Provider, capable of delivering first to market product innovations in global scale with quality, management software, on-site global and support to engage our rapidly growing enterprise customer base. The record high revenue in strong second half growth rate is a direct result of Supermicro 3.0 investment. With the major fundamentals in place and the new Skylake product portfolio shipping, future…

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Charles and good afternoon everyone. I will focus my remarks on earnings, gross margins, operating expenses and similar items on a non-GAAP basis which reflect adjustments to exclude stock compensation expenses. Reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP is included in the financial statement of the company in today’s earnings release and in the supplemental details in the slide presentation and prepared remarks accompanying this conference call. Let me begin with the review of the fourth quarter income statement. We end fiscal year 2017 with a record $717.9 million in revenues for the fourth quarter and executing on a number of strategic investments which put us in a very strong position as this technology refresh cycle begins. The investments across a number of markets vertical and geographies around the world have expanded our business opportunities with the host of new and existing customer especially in large enterprise. The increase in revenue from 36.9% from last year was wide spread across our market vertical such as enterprise, storage, IoT and accelerated computing this was offset in part by a decline in IDC. On a geographical basis we had strong growth in Asia, Europe and the U.S. The 13.7% sequential increase in revenue was primarily driven by strength in Asia in particular China once up 35% as we leveraged our growing partnerships. Non-GAAP gross margin was 13.5% down, 60 basis points from 14.1% a year ago and down 50 basis points from 14% sequentially. The decrease from prior year and sequentially was primarily due to cost increases in memory and SSD. Higher sales in Asia, which is typically more competitive and sales of later-stage life cycle products also affected margins. Offsetting these work, operational efficiencies which we have made over the past few years through capacity utilization, economics of scale, more complete…

Charles Liang

Operator

Thank you, Howard. We finished the fiscal year 2017 with record revenue and a strong momentum. Supermicro 3.0 provides the foundation and product to take advantage of this cycle of technology transition. We believe that fiscal 2018, will be one of the strongest year in Super Micro’s history. Operator at this moment we are ready for questions.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Operator we’re ready for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we’ll take our first question from Mehdi Hosseini with Susquehanna Financial Group.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Hi, thanks. This is David Ryzhik for Mehdi. Just a few, if I can. The midpoint of your revenue guide comes out to around – down 9% Q-over-Q. Just wondering what are the factors there particularly given that year entering the product cycle. It assume that it would be ramping in the September. And I had a follow-up. Thanks.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

This is Howard. Yes, we are seeing the ramp up as Skylake has launched here. Again, [indiscernible] is seasonally soft and this guidance is about seasonal averages.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Got it. Thanks. And regarding gross margins if memory pricing was at 50 to 70 basis point hit and I assume it was 70 basis point that would have put your gross margins at 14.2. Given the, in this June quarter, given the high volume, the favorable mix from the lower Internet data center just would have thought that the normalized gross margins would have been higher perhaps from capacity utilization. Can you just talk about what are the other impacts, I mean you mentioned Asia business. Can you just elaborate a little bit more on some of the mix and if there is any kind of pricing impact that we should be aware of in gross margins. Thanks.

Charles Liang

Operator

Last quarter memory and flash drive grew more than 20% and this quarter although we – we are seeing an improvement may grow 10% for [indiscernible] for the whole quarter I hope. So the price stay high. And that is why I would try to be conservative because for memory, for flash [indiscernible] are a known factor.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

And David I’d just add to what Charles was saying with regards to that. Again, we are at the end of the technology refresh cycle when coming into a brand new technology re-price cycle, specifically at the end of the cycle, our pricing gets a little bit more less on the older technology.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

So, I guess the fall would be, should we expect given that you are entering the product cycle the favorable margin impact, should we expect QoverQ increase in gross margins.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think the ramp for the product cycle we talked before, it is probably going to be towards the December quarter, you need to take some about two quarter to ramp the production through the new chip set.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Great thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

And we will move to our next question from Aaron Rakers with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Joe Quatrochi

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Great this is Joe Quatrochi on for Aaron. Thanks for taking the questions. Just want to go back to the September quarter guide and I am talking about that it is a above seasonal, Skylake is going to be more of a kind of December quarter story a ramp, what’s the kind of outline driver for the September guide?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Well I think we talked about a number of new engagements and new customers that we are bringing on board. The pipeline is very strong.

Joe Quatrochi

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay, maybe can you talk a little bit about the growth you are seeing in China, what is driving that. Is it the FiberHome, partnership or something else.

Charles Liang

Operator

Our presence in China continue very be strong and we see a – we continue to gain a major partner, I mean especially a large corporate. And in that channel we will continue.

Joe Quatrochi

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay, thanks and then just a quick follow-up on the gross margin. I don’t think, and may be I have misheard the manufacturing utilization this quarter and do you think this could be the bottom of gross margin as we kind of work through some of those memory cost increases.

Charles Liang

Operator

We hope so.

Joe Quatrochi

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay thanks.

Operator

Operator

And we will take our next question from Brian Alger with Roth Capital Partners.

Brian Alger

Analyst · Roth Capital Partners

Hi guys good afternoon, congrats, on a good finish to the year. Obviously a bit challenging with memory, but congrats on the loss. As you look in, the full year outlook that you talked about, Super Micro 3.0, is there this diversification that you are now enjoying. Is there a new focus for the company or is diversification really the name of the game as we look going forward.

Charles Liang

Operator

As you may know, we invested a lot, as we grew a 50% engineering manpower. That is why we are able to implement our global service team and we are able to make our service reach, datacenter management, completed already, so we saw those were the I mean now we are able to continue to gain enterprise customer. In 3.0 [indiscernible] last clear miles we won more than 50 large enterprise customers. And deeply we believe we will accelerate the large enterprise customer gaining.

Brian Alger

Analyst · Roth Capital Partners

Fantastic.

Charles Liang

Operator

That mean we are truly integrating function like a two tier one company that which are including service.

Brian Alger

Analyst · Roth Capital Partners

Great. And I guess maybe a technical question, obviously storage was a really strong performer in this past quarter up significant both year-on-year as well as sequentially. In the past, historical Super Micro, you guys just ship a lot of JBOD basically. Now you guys have a very strong NVMe product portfolio and I’m curious as to how much of your storage solutions you stays are solid state as suppose to rotational?

Charles Liang

Operator

And [indiscernible] we grew above 30% in that storage season mobile and looking forward, we will continue to have a strong growth in storage, especially NVMe space.

Brian Alger

Analyst · Roth Capital Partners

Is there a margin difference? If we normalize availability of NAND and DRAM. Howard, is there a significant difference in terms of the gross margin that you guys can generate with these NVMe systems as suppose to the JBOD systems that you were shipping previously?

Charles Liang

Operator

Basically NVMe new technology, we suppose to have much better product margin. However with that shortage, and to sent them we need a much more area because we are past growing. So in that case, we had to pay premium to gain more [indiscernible] that’s why margin was low.

Brian Alger

Analyst · Roth Capital Partners

Understood, understood. Okay, thanks, again and congrats on the rest of the year.

Charles Liang

Operator

Thank you.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

We move to our next question from Nehal Chokshi from Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Thank you. Two part question here, so first memory in NAND flash prices increases for the quarter. How much was that you guys on a [indiscernible]

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Well, as Charles mentioned earlier, we saw price decreases around 20% within the commentary, I said there has about 50 to 70 impact to our gross margin.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Okay. So I guess there is some customers that did not have some price increases where you had an existing fixed price contract. And what I’m trying to get as – there must have been some percent of customers that didn’t accept that. And A, what is that percent? And then B, it seems like, given the incremental revenue and then there was actually negative incremental EPS as from what I can help that this was actually a negative incremental gross margin business, because they didn’t accept the increase price. So be that correct, and then if that is correct, why honor that contract?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Again, the contract was in place, its expiring [indiscernible] you negotiated. So again, we had contracts there. We terminated, but again, the volume went up and a bit hard as a bit as we mentioned earlier in our press release. We’ll soon rectify.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Okay. If I may, I’d like another follow-up questions different topic. At ASP per server really took off, it was up 43% year-over-year and 13% Q-o-Q, what’s behind its a significant increase?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Well, I think like I said we’re getting to more full boxes now. As Charles mentioned we’re building our breadth into the large enterprise that customers and if I’m customers are taking full boxes, previously if you remember our server solutions category had everything from barebones to complete services. So we’re now moving or into complete server solutions including software and support services.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you. I’ll move back into the queue.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Alex Kurtz with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Hey guys, can you hear me okay?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Okay, Alex.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Great. So just on some numbers here, what was the utilization rate in the quarter and what was the merging growth - the emerging storage growth rate?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Yes. For the quarter, Alex is about 60% on utilization.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Yes. And the emerging storage names.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Let me get back to you on that question.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

Okay. My question for you guys is just taking a deeper look here at the datacenter business obviously IBM was a tough comp in fiscal 2017, but even if you I think exclude IBM out of the datacenter number was down this year in fiscal 2017. Historically the VIP, IDC business has been a good business for you guys. So what’s going on there, even if you exclude IBM, it looks like things were down in this business. Can the IDC business grow in fiscal 2018 at the same growth rate of, as the rest of the business?

Charles Liang

Operator

Yes, indeed in that year, including last quarter. The major challenge to us was the [indiscernible] memory. Not just the price is high, but in lot of case, we had to wait for memory. So now we have memory and some time we had to wait for refresh. So that kind of intact and that is why we have the best IDC, Internet data center especially.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

So memory specifically held up projects, Charles, is that right?

Charles Liang

Operator

Your question, again.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

So memory impacted your ability to deliver on some opportunities in the IDC space. Is that what you are saying?

Charles Liang

Operator

The part of the reason, but also because memory price is so high and as you know, internet data center probably margin basically more than it. That is why we had a bad sale in the area.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

And just last question for Howard, I can get this story somewhat later, but what would stop you from getting back to like a 15% plus gross margin exiting fiscal 2018? Howard, assuming that memory does play out the way, you think it does, and you have Skylake kicking in which always is helpful for you. So why can’t investors think about a 15% plus kind of gross margin on exiting fiscal 2018, if all of those things were to come together?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

I think it is largely to – while we talked about here Alex, we have got a numbers of investors, who will be leveraging our investments, being better on our operational efficiencies and operating expenses. So obviously there are a lot of opportunities for us to grow that margin, through this year, especially with the refresh cycle coming. With regard to – I just sort back on the next-gen it was about 76% year-over-year growth.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

And do you guys still feel that you did have that one vendor that was acquired by a larger OEM. And that hasn’t impacted your emerging storage business yet?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

No it hasn’t and probably it would provide with great opportunities going forward as well.

Alex Kurtz

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead

To work with that OEM that acquired that company? Okay. Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We’ll take our next question from Nehal Chokshi with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Yes, thanks, one housekeeping question, number of subsystem units?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Number of subsystem units was 1 million and 14 thousand.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Okay, thank you. And then of the 15 new large scale enterprise customers in fiscal year 2017? Having them began in this quarter?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Can you say that again, Nehal, sorry.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

So in the presentation there was a statement that there was 15 new large scale enterprise customers during fiscal year 2017. I’m wondering how many of those actually started deployments within this June quarter?

Charles Liang

Operator

Indeed, [indiscernible] in last year and half of them started move on June quarter. But because it’s new, that’s why the [indiscernible] is not at stake. That’s kind of relatively a very decisive though.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

And so, effectively I think it was like a 170% Q-to-Q increase in the enterprise revenue, was that because of all these new large scale customers? Or was it because you had significant expense from the large scale customers?

Charles Liang

Operator

I tell you majority from the new enterprise customer.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Okay. And then for those that become Super Micro customers at the beginning of the fiscal year. How has cadence of orders been from those large scale customers?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Definitely the opportunities are there and we’re going to be – as we said earlier the pipeline is very good for us.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Okay, great. Congratulations, this is very encouraging.

Charles Liang

Operator

Yes. Last year, we won our belief more than 15 large enterprise customer. This year, we will see at least win another 25 or 30.

Nehal Chokshi

Analyst · Maxim Group. Please go ahead

Great, thank you.

Operator

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Mehdi Hosseini with Susquehanna Financial Group. Please go ahead.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group. Please go ahead

Hi, thanks. This is David Ryzhik again for Mehdi. Just to clarify what percent of total revenue in the June quarter did enterprise make up? And just giving your target of adding 30 new customers in fiscal 2018, do you have a target of what percentage enterprise can make up of total revenue exiting of the fiscal year?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, for the quarter, David, it was about 8% of total revenue.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group. Please go ahead

Great. And do you have a target exiting 2018?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

We haven’t put a target out there. Certainly, we have plenty of opportunities.

Charles Liang

Operator

Hope…

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Great, great. And just related to that, how can we think about OpEx for fiscal 2018. You do have an aggressive strategy to add onboard these new customers. I would assume they would require some investment yet in your Slide deck you talked about that leveling off. Just how can we think about the quarterly OpEx has moving through fiscal 2018?

Charles Liang

Operator

Yeah, as in that chart we share with you, last three years we grew about 450 engineers, we have to [indiscernible] and pretty much that whole program already established. So, looking for where we don’t have to reinvest actual – don’t have to invest the much actual in business.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Got it. And so, I guess, so no real need to invest in sales and marketing capacity to onboard additional enterprise customers or you feel like you have what you need?

Charles Liang

Operator

Pretty much ready.

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Okay.

Charles Liang

Operator

We have to hire more…

David Ryzhik

Analyst · Susquehanna Financial Group

Got it. Thank you. Yep, thank you.

Charles Liang

Operator

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And we’ll take our next question from Aaron Rakers with Stifel. Please go ahead.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Yeah, thanks for taking the questions and I apologize for kind of joining a little bit late, maybe some housekeeping things, first. How should we think about the progression of the tax rate?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

In the prepared remarks, this is a new concept for us a bit, Aaron. So, if you look at our website, you’ll see some prepared remarks for us. It will say that we do a guy for this quarter of about 34% on the tax rate.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Yeah and I guess I was asking more beyond that. I mean it’s been somewhat volatile quarter-by-quarter over the last few quarters of understanding it somewhat driven by the international mix et cetera. But, again, I think it’d be helpful to understand with some of the taxing that you’ve done over the last few quarters. What should we be thinking about the progression? Where do you think a normalized tax rate kind of falls out for the company?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Well, I think, certainly it gets better for us as we go further and go further offshore and increase our foreign presence, but at this point we’re guiding 34% for the quarter.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay, fair enough. If you didn’t have the constraints this last quarter on DRAM and it sounds like maybe a little bit of flash or SSDs as well. What do you think your revenue could have been? Was that a $20 million impact, $30 million, $50 million? I am just kind of trying to frame how constrained you are in terms of fulfilling the potential incremental revenue?

Charles Liang

Operator

Indeed, it’s a lot more.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

I missed that. Was that a lot more?

Charles Liang

Operator

No…

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Aaron, I think we’ve done a very good job of managing this – going through the process of managing this. And so quite frankly we’re delivering orders and doing it. We saw some acceleration at the end of quarter, but again we’ve done a very good job of managing this, going through the process of managing this. And so quite frankly, we are delivering orders and doing it, we saw some acceleration at the end of quarter, but, again we’ve done a pretty job of managing the SSD and memory storage.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay, how much strategic inventory on memory and SSDs are you carrying, coming out of this quarter? I think last quarter you talked about kind of $63 million of excess inventory.

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

It is similar to that.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

It’s similar to that, okay. And your current view of when things kind of get back to normal, where you’re executing in a quarter that there is no supply constraints. When would you expect that to be?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, we are not – we haven’t forecasted that, for say, we said [indiscernible]

Charles Liang

Operator

It’s in the memory and [indiscernible] program wherever you are getting better from now. So by December quarter, I believe we will see some significant improvement.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay. And then the final question, I am sorry to go back to it, but the Enterprise business growing as much as is pretty remarkable. As that grows and becomes a larger potential piece of your overall business. How do we think about the margin profile of that vertical, relative to the margin of your overall business today? It’s relative to the 13.5% growth. I was just trying to understand, how we should think about that, given what should be a positive mix of software, maybe servers that are wrapped around that traditional enterprise customer base?

Charles Liang

Operator

Yeah, basically enterprise customer are more [indiscernible] so the margin will be slightly better at least.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Yeah. Okay, any – is it 200 basis points?

Howard Hideshima

Chief Financial Officer

We haven’t quantified that, Aaron it’s going to be better.

Aaron Rakers

Analyst · Stifel. Please go ahead

Okay, fair enough. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

And that does conclude today’s question-and-answer session. Mr. Liang, at this time, I’d like to turn the conference back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

Charles Liang

Operator

Thank you for joining us today and we look forward to talking to you again at the end of this quarter. Thank you everyone, have a great day.

Operator

Operator

And this concludes today’s call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.