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Sonida Senior Living, Inc. (SNDA)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, May 5, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Capital Senior Living First Quarter 2015 Earnings Release Conference Call. Today's call is being recorded. The forward-looking statements in this release are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially, including, but not without limitation to, the company's ability to find suitable acquisition properties at favorable terms, financing, licensing, business conditions, risks of downturns and economic conditions generally, satisfaction of closing conditions such as those pertaining to licensure, availability of insurance at commercially reasonable rates and changes in accounting principles and interpretations among others as well as other risks and factors identified from time to time in our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Mr. Larry Cohen. Please go ahead, sir.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Capital Senior Living’s first quarter 2015 earnings release conference call. We are pleased to report significant growth in revenue, adjusted EBITDAR and adjusted CFFO in the first quarter of 2015 as compared to the prior year. March was the strongest month in the quarter providing momentum for the second quarter and the remainder of 2015. Despite a harsh winter and strong flu season, which resulted in high attrition levels and affecting our same-community occupancy and revenue, we were able to achieve a 50 basis point positive spread between same-community revenue and expense growth and achieved a first quarter record high adjusted EBITDAR margin of 36.2%. Move-ins were up 15% and deposits were up 16% in the first quarter over the prior year due to the marketing initiatives we have implemented over the last year, which allowed us to offset most of the attrition by the end of the first quarter. We achieved a net increase of 89 residents in the month of March alone. In the first quarter, we completed the acquisition of two single living communities for a combined price of $47.9 million. These communities are expected to add first year of EBITDAR of $3.9 million and incremental annual CFFO of $0.06 per share. Subject to completion of customary closing conditions, acquisitions totaling approximately $27 million are expected to close by the end of May. We are conducting due diligence on additional acquisitions of high-quality senior living communities in states with extensive operations. Our first quarter results reflected successful implementation of various initiatives during the second half of 2014 including selective introductory specials at lower occupied communities, increasing rates at higher occupancy communities, increasing level of care charges and disciplined expense management. Longer term, we are renovating and refurbishing communities and converting…

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Larry, and good afternoon, everyone. I hope you’ve had a chance to review today’s press release. If not, it’s available on our Web site at www.capitalsenior.com. You can also sign up on our Web site to receive future press releases by email if you’d like to do so. The company reported total consolidated revenue of $98.6 million for the first quarter of 2015. This was an increase of $6.8 million or $7.4 million over the first quarter of 2014 with resident and healthcare revenue up $8.5 million or 9.4%. The increase in revenue is largely due to acquisitions the company’s made during or after the first quarter of 2014. Since that time, we have acquired 10 communities including two communities that we purchased during the first quarter of 2015. Our operating expenses increased $4.4 million in the first quarter of 2015 to $60.1 million due to the acquisitions. Our general and administrative expenses for the first quarter of 2015 were about $100,000 lower than the first quarter of 2014 after excluding the transaction and other one-time costs from both years. Excluding $500,000 of transaction net of one-time costs, our G&A expenses as a percentage of revenue under management were 4.6% in the first quarter of 2015, which is 30 basis points lower than the comparable measure for the first quarter of 2014. As we noted in the press release, the company's non-GAAP and statistical measures exclude the four communities that are undergoing repositioning, lease-up of higher licensed units, or significant renovation and conversion. Adjusted EBITDAR was $34.1 million in the first quarter of 2015, an increase of $3.2 million or 10.2% from the first quarter of 2014. This does not include EBITDAR of another $500,000 related to the four communities that are undergoing repositioning, lease-up or significant renovation…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. We’ll take our first question from Joanna Gajuk with Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Thank you so much for taking the question. First one on the occupancy, you did not – I didn’t hear you providing or commenting on same-store occupancy’s sequential change. Would you be willing to talk about that, because we have the industry data that showed 20 bps declined sequentially, so I’m just trying to see what was it for the company?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Yes, sequentially on a same-community basis, our occupancy was 40 basis points higher than the fourth quarter.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay. So you’re saying that the weather and flu was pretty much offset by the strong demand. So can you talk about this demand, whether there is any particular regions? I guess you mentioned products that there was great deal of more demand for the independent living versus assisted living. So is there any geographic variation in those trends or not really?

Larry Cohen

Management

Joanna, that’s very interesting. Let me give you some specifics between independent and assisted living on a same-store basis for the first quarter, I think it’s very telling both to the occupancy and the attrition. Our first quarter same-store independent living occupancy, we had 143 more move-ins overall of which 127 were gains in independent living; 16 gains in assisted living on a same-store basis. And then move-outs, we had 120 more move-outs in IL from attrition and 35 more move-outs in AL, again, versus first quarter. So we did see more gains in independent living. We also saw some trends that Carey mentioned on the buildings that are being converted that actually improved independent living occupancy as families were comforted by the fact that there’d be more levels available if their parents were to age, so they could age in place. Geographically, I would say that it was fairly consistent. No area of the country stands out particularly. We did have some strength in some of the Texas markets. We saw some strength actually on Midwest again. So I think that we’re seeing is that if you look at our core markets, they have been fairly consistent where we’re seeing the gains. I’d say that Southeast was actually very strong just this quarter, quarter-over-quarter, as well as looking at some of the Texas and Midwest markets.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Joanna, I have to correct myself. I was looking at rate earlier and actually the occupancy quarter-over-quarter was down about 80 to 90 basis points.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, so it was actually down more than the industry. When I was looking at the Q4 data you provide on the same-store basis, that’s not comparable, right, because the comp of facilities changes, so that’s helpful. So you said 80 to 90 basis points sequentially.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

What we saw, Joanna, was a peak in move-outs in January. We saw a pickup in December, a peak in January. We think that tracks the flu particularly in our geographies and even saw a drop off in that attrition in February, a further drop off in March. And obviously we saw continued demand. And the reason you saw such a strong March with 89 move-ins was really more reflective of the slower attrition in the back part of the quarter versus December and January on the move-outs.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right. Thanks. I’ll go back to the queue.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thank you, Joanna.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Daniel Bernstein with Stifel.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Hi. Good evening.

Larry Cohen

Management

Hello, Dan.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Hi. Are there any startup losses in the first quarter or should we expect startup losses in the second quarter for the conversions to higher acuity?

Larry Cohen

Management

I don’t think so, Dan. That really has not been a problem. The staffing obviously starts before we open the buildings as we go through the licensure process, and that’s already in there, in our numbers. But there aren’t any startup costs I can think of, of these conversions. And again, the speed at which they had filled has actually exceeded our expectations. So we’re very pleased with that.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay. And then I just wanted to get back to the occupancy just a little bit. Was 80, 90 basis points lower, was that same-store or was that overall? And if you can just give the overall quarter-to-quarter as well?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Same-store, Dan. And overall --

Larry Cohen

Management

Consolidate is down 60 basis points –

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

50 basis points, Dan.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay. And again, the flu typically I think impacts AL worst. It seems like AL was impacted a little bit worse for you than IL. Is that --?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

It’s interesting. IL attrition in the first quarter was pretty comparable to what we saw in the flu 2013, down slightly from the fourth quarter. We did see a pickup in the AL attrition and AL memory care, both over fourth quarter as well as little higher than we saw in the first quarter of 2013. But that’s to where we saw – I think what’s happening is that the frailty of the AL resident caused more move-outs in AL than IL, and we see that in the numbers on the attrition rate.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Should we generally be thinking about higher seasonality in the portfolio given the amount of assisted living you now have? I mean, just model that harsher – if you look in NIC MAP data, assisted living is down 60 bps sequentially. So is that the kind of just a more significant occupancy drop in the portfolio in 1Q than historical, and then ramp it up a little bit harder than historical as well, as we go through the year?

Larry Cohen

Management

That’s consistent. Our assisted living loss of occupancy was higher than in assisted living. One thing I’ll say going back to 2013, which was a very strong flu season, we actually saw a nice recovery in the second quarter and lower attrition across all levels. I mean in 2013, the AL attrition actually dropped by about 6 percentage points, which is pretty good. AL was down about 4 percentage points. So hopefully and we’re seeing good trends this quarter as well. So hopefully we’ll see that coming to fruition. But I do think that the change in our portfolio, which is now majority is assisted living and having multiple levels of care, typically we’ll have a higher acuity resident. And for seasonality it’s probably going to have more of an impact than it did when we were predominately independent living.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Dan, I was just going to say that we’re really pleased about those that we were able to from a physical occupancy get back to pretty close to where we were at the beginning of the quarter, because of the solid increase that we had in March.

Larry Cohen

Management

And in fact, the net change in occupancy for the full quarter was only 17 residents. So when you look at the same-store loss financially for the quarter, I’m very encouraged that we had such a strong end to the quarter and recovered all but 17 residents and that should turn positive for the year in April.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

So it will definitely help us as we move into the second quarter.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay. Facility lease expense just a little bit higher than what we had expected. Is most of your lease expense bump up the first of the year or is it weighted to any one quarter?

Larry Cohen

Management

It’s ratable through the year.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

But we increase it and recalculate it consistently. It’s just based on the normal rate increase that are built into the contract.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay. I’ll hop out here and maybe get back in the queue.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Dan.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Ryan Halsted with Wells Fargo, your line is open, please go ahead.

Ryan Halsted

Analyst

Thanks. Good evening.

Larry Cohen

Management

Hi, Ryan.

Ryan Halsted

Analyst

Hi. I wanted to start with just going back to some of the sequential pickup you are expecting in CFFO, if you don’t mind, I wrote down some of it but you were expecting some sequential increase obviously on occupancy as well as a $0.02 I think CFFO increase from acquisitions. So are you expecting $0.03? Is that the total or how did you lay that out?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

So we expect to gain about $0.01 from the increases in occupancy that we had related to that increase in margin occupancy. So that will give us about $0.01 in the second quarter more than we had in the first quarter. Then we’ve got some expense things. If utilities will be down $750,000, which will help us, but we will have an extra day of expense of about $500,000. So that nets to maybe 250, which is about $0.01. And then we expect the acquisitions that we closed in the first quarter and the pending acquisitions that we expect to close by the end of May to add about $0.02 to our second quarter’s CFFO versus the first quarter. So netting all that together it’s about $0.04.

Ryan Halsted

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And then going to – I guess you guys have spoken in the past to like a core NOI growth of 4% to 6% with 2% revenue growth, 1.5% operating expenses and then an outlook of potentially 100 basis points on occupancy. I mean, how do you feel about that outlook for 2015 at this point.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

I think for the remainder of the year, we feel good about that that we expect our revenue growth to exceed our expense growth in that 50 to 100 basis point kind of spread.

Larry Cohen

Management

Ryan, there’s seasonality in our business. We actually had a worst first quarter last year, so – and last year, the first quarter CFFO was, I think it’s up to $0.29 and for the full year were $1.44. So we had a strong recovery throughout the year with the fourth quarter being our strongest. The same thing occurred actually in 2013. So there is definitely seasonality that’s maybe, as Dan said, heightened even more so because of the higher frailty of our resident base. But clearly as we get into the spring, as the weather clears, we think that there’s some strong fundamentals as far as housing, the economy, consumer confidence, job growth, which if goes well I will tell you that – one comment I really want to point out is a lot that was written after the NIC MAP data suggested soft demand, we’re not seeing that. We’re seeing very strong demand and just higher attrition. And I think when you look at net absorption, people have to look at both the front door and the backdoor and recognize what’s very encouraging I think for the industry is we’re seeing the strongest demand we’ve ever seen out there both in deposit taking and move-ins. Unfortunately, we did have high attrition in the quarter but that has abated down, so I think the outlook for the balance of the year is pretty consistent with what the commentary we gave on the fourth quarter call, Ryan.

Ryan Halsted

Analyst

All right, great. Thanks. On acquisitions, so I think you mentioned previously that you expect to spend maybe 150 million on acquisitions. You’ve obviously sort of circled about half of that already. I mean what’s the pipeline behind it look like?

Larry Cohen

Management

The pipeline is outstanding. We have been very disciplined, we’re very proud of the quality and the financial performance, as Carey mentioned. Again, this is the third consecutive quarter that Carey has commented that our acquisitions have outperformed the guidance we’ve given on our outlook for the first year, so we think that’s very positive. Again, we’re very comfortable with that even though we don’t give guidance, we’re happy that we basically have $75 million completed what’s closing this month in a couple of weeks in the first five months of the year. And the pipeline behind what we had currently is even larger than what we’ve done so far. So there are deals that through due diligence we may decide not to move forward on in future, but I think right now we are extremely pleased with the value of the business, the quality of the deals, the kind of conversation [ph] we have for our off-market transactions continues to really differentiate us. So I think that the contribution that we have been able to generate from acquisitions we think should continue for the balance of the year.

Ryan Halsted

Analyst

Okay, that’s great. And my last question just on a topic that’s obviously gotten a lot more attention recently with your largest competitor making some very public comments about some of the increased interest around real estate. I just wanted to get an update from you guys on how you’re thinking about your real estate? If it’s something that you’re starting to evaluate strategically more so now than you’ve had in the past?

Larry Cohen

Management

We have fairly regularly reviewed both with management and our Board looking at the real estate and looking at long-term value for our shareholders. We have updated ourselves and the Board regularly and quarterly on what we see as realty value as we get input from outside, bankers and other consultants. So we’re pretty much aware of what’s going on in the industry around us and other industries. We think that the real estate we have does create a lot of shareholder value. We think right now that our strategy of owning real estate with this pipeline and very attractive financing allows us – which by the way is assumable. So if we ever wanted to monetize real estate, it would probably add more value to real estate, provides the company with the maximum flexibility and options and we will continue to evaluate strategies and look at the tax implications. But right now we are not a taxpayer. We have sheltered cash flow for many years through the NOLs that we have. If you look at the growth that I talked about where over the last four years, we have average compounds and a growth rate of 22.5%. I think we’re executing on our strategy and we can continue that. And if we can double our cash flow in two or three years, we think the stock price will reflect that as well. So we think we’re in a very attractive situation where we control our destiny. We continue to own more real estate and we will continually monitor the situation and evaluate our strategies looking at all the options that will be available to enhance shareholder value more.

Ryan Halsted

Analyst

That’s great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thank you, Ryan.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Dana Hambly with Stephens.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

Hi. Good afternoon. Just want to clarify on the – Larry, on the 89 residents that you were up in March that that’s relative to February?

Larry Cohen

Management

That’s actually a net gain for the month of March, from March 1 to March 31, correct.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

Okay. So end of February to end of March. So if I’m just thinking about that as a percent --

Larry Cohen

Management

Yes, and we gained 89 residents in March and from the end of the December to the end of March – the 89 units that we gained was for the month of March, end of February to end of March. For the quarter looking at end of December to end of March, we lost 17 residents.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

Right, okay. But just thinking about March is the strongest, it sounds like it was up 60 to 80 basis points of occupancy over February. So that’s kind of starting April a good bit higher than we were for the average for the quarter.

Larry Cohen

Management

Yes, I think that’s, Dana, very important that typically when we end the quarter as strong as we did in March, it typically flows through to a nice gain in the sequential quarter.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

Very good. And on the – I thought the rate growth was excellent, over 5%. So I’m just – is that the effect of acquisitions on a year-over-year basis? Can you just remind us where you are with the Vigilant rollout or maybe anything else that would have been contributing to that?

Larry Cohen

Management

It’s also rationalizing a portfolio, as Carey mentioned in his comments. We are selling off some of the lower reporting properties, improving our operating metrics. Clearly, the acquisitions are very, very strong both at the occupancy and rate. And then the Vigilant has been a very effective tool. We’ve seen nice increases in the revenue that Vigilant has generated each of the last couple of quarters. I’ll tell you something else that’s really impressive, Carey mentioned it. The revenue on those four buildings that we had those conversions completed increased 19% March over March. That’s in one year. So that is also very, very strong. So I think it’s the combination of higher quality assets, newer properties, higher rate, higher occupancy, recycling capital by selling off some of the weaker performing assets that are noncore and then our strategy of conversions. And the last thing I’ll talk about is I’ve been travelling and visiting a lot of our buildings and continue to do so. We are in the process of refurbishing more than half of our buildings this year. And I will tell you that the impact of the refurbishments is just outstanding. To walk into our buildings with new carpets, new lighting, new fixtures and so that also I think – we didn’t talk about that, is going to be another driver to increase our demand and hopefully our financial performance as those are completed this year. But the response from the market has been outstanding. The staff is thrilled with it and I’ll tell you having seeing some of them, they really just change the whole look of a property. So we’re very excited about that as well.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

All right. So just as I think about the modeling, so over 5%, obviously a great quarter, but that’s not really the long-term outlook. So maybe we get that for a few more quarters from you guys, but do you still think about pricing more of around kind of 3% type growth?

Larry Cohen

Management

Yes. I mean 2.5%, 3% is a reasonable growth rate. As Carey mentioned earlier, we look to get a lower growth on expenses and that spread, that gives a 40% NOI growth.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

Got you, all right. And then Carey on the labor cost spend, managing those really well. I just – I wonder with minimum wages creeping up, what kind of pressure that puts on your labor costs or have there been any benefit changes or reduction in employee turnover that could keep that low for a pretty long time?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Really, Dana, we feel good about where our labor costs are in the first quarter versus first quarter of last year. Our direct labor costs were up only 1.1% when you look at direct labor itself. So we have not seen a lot of pressure on that. I know Larry has spoken in the past that we’ve looked at the minimum wage situation in our communities in our states and we really just don’t see a lot of pressure there. Larry --

Larry Cohen

Management

I’ll just give some more color, Dana. I had announced a month ago when we started to see what’s happening with minimum wage to look at the mix of our hourly wage employees. Less than 5% of our hourly employees aren’t minimum wage. And then the bulk of our hourly staff are considerably higher than the minimum wage with another 5% at $25 an hour or higher, obviously nurses and others. So, I think that when you look at the mix of our labor force and the wages we’re paying and the states – as Carey correctly pointed out, the states where we operate; Texas, Ohio, Indiana, South Carolina, those are very large states. You just don’t see the same kind of pressures. Obviously, the numbers don’t reflect it and we’re not seeing any unusual turnover or other changes out there that would suggest that that would be an issue.

Dana Hambly

Analyst · Stephens

All right. Thanks very much.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We’ll take a follow up from Joanna Gajuk.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Hi. Can you just repeat the conversion, that numbers you gave out in terms of how many that you already converted, and then what do you expect on the timing of four additional conversions you mentioned?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Yes, so by the end of the second quarter, which we’re almost there, the licenses on more than 400 units will have been upgraded. And about 225 of those were vacant and available for lease-up at the time of conversion. And the remainder of those were incremental, so 175 incremental. Where, as the current residents are replaced with the new residents at higher rates, then you’ll get incremental financial impact there. And then beyond that, we have another 90 or so incremental conversions we’d expect in the second half of 2015 and then another or approximately 200 incremental conversions in 2016, most of that in the back half of the year. But again, those are more incremental. And then we have another half dozen or so that were also under consideration for doing some conversion at those communities. Does that help, Joanna?

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Yes. So the 90 incremental in second half of this year, that’s included in the 360 as you discussed before?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

No, it’s not.

Larry Cohen

Management

The 360 I think actually equate now to 400 plus units. In addition to that, there’s another 90 in the second half of this year and another 200 that we’re projecting to be in 2016. And then there are another half dozen buildings that we are now looking at legal review, building code, other considerations to see whether they can be converted as well.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right, that’s helpful. And then on the – just quickly on the new sort of conversion of reporting adjusted CFFO pressure, excluding the change in prepaid resident spend, so what was this number this quarter? I remember the last quarter you said it was $0.04, I believe, positive in fourth quarter. So what would the number be?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

It was not included in the first quarter of this year, right, the change in resident rent. It would have been a $0.02 decrease. We had a $0.01 decrease in the first quarter of 2014, so pretty similar there first quarter of this year versus first quarter of last year.

Larry Cohen

Management

What we said is that it’s really a timing issue of whether rents are paid at the end of the month, prior month or the first day of the month. So what happens is it goes quarter-to-quarter increasing volatility that we don’t think was helpful. So we thought it was a good time to just take it out. Over a course of the year, it’s mutual because it will just basically roll quarter-to-quarter. So if you’re up one quarter, you can be down the next quarter and vice versa. So we thought that it’s not economic – it doesn’t change obviously the recording of revenues, it’s just CFFO, and thought it’s probably better with that transparency without that so that you have less volatility quarter-to-quarter in that CFFO number.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right. So you were saying the $0.04 in fourth quarter. So only $0.02 came back this quarter and then the next $0.02will come back later?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

That would but we’re not going to have it in our CFFO numbers. Over time, CFFO is the same regardless of whether you include change in prepaid resident rent or not but it’s quarter-to-quarter volatility that really didn’t speak to our real operations and it’s not economic, so we just thought – it’s just really just a timing item. It’s better to just not have that in the CFFO calculation.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Right. So the comparable number for 2014 full year, excluding I guess this item now, is I think $1.44?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

$1.44, that’s right.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

All right. Thanks.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

There was a $0.06 positive impact in 2014, $0.04 of it was in the fourth quarter.

Joanna Gajuk

Analyst · Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Okay, that’s helpful.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. Todd Cohen with MTC Advisors, your line is open.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Good afternoon.

Larry Cohen

Management

Hi, Todd.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Hi. Can you guys hear me?

Larry Cohen

Management

Yes.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay, great. So on the conversions, would it be possible to go back and talk about the 360 that we started thinking about I don’t know a year, year and a half ago. I’m a little bit confused on all the different numbers.

Larry Cohen

Management

Sure. Okay. So, Todd, the 360 now that we’re closer to reality, because we’re almost at the end of the second quarter of 2015 and that’s we said they’ll be done, we have actually had 400 licenses that have been upgraded instead of 360. So it’s been a total of 400 licenses or so that we’ve had upgraded. We originally said – we talked about vacant IL moving to AL. There are 225 of those units that were vacant and available for lease-up with the time conversion. And the remaining units, that remaining 175 or so have an incremental financial impact. So as a current resident leaves and we replace that new resident at a higher rate.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

But the financial impact is $0.20 per share just like we’ve said all along.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

On the 400?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

That’s right. That’s the first step we’ve always talked about.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay. So the 225 that are converting from IL to AL and obviously they must have the licenses and the license must be upgraded? How many of those are – are those all able to lease up now?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

They will be by the end of the second quarter. Most of those are ready today. They weren’t necessarily at the end of the first quarter but most of those are ready today. And they’ll all be ready by the end of – by June 30.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay. So just let me ask this another way. Out of the 400 potential, how many of those units have been – how many of those are now occupied?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

So of the 225 plus the 175 incremental, about 70 of those have already been occupied.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay, that helps. CapEx, I know Larry you just spoke about renovating lot of the properties this year. So how do we break that cap – the CapEx down?

Larry Cohen

Management

If you look at recurring CapEx this quarter, I think it was around [indiscernible] a unit. Obviously, as we do more refurbishments at same flow, the CapEx that we’re putting into the buildings will be fairly consistent throughout the year. I think our budget for year for CapEx is around $2 million in total, Todd. That’s both refurbishments as well as the ongoing recurring CapEx. That’s a fairly normalized number that we’ve had over previous years. So that will – that dollar amount should cover these refurbishments in our plan in 2015 as well as what we consider recurring CapEx on a regular basis at our properties.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay, great. And then it looks like you finance these most recent acquisitions like 3.9%, 3.87%, how do rates look currently? And if you have to do something – if you’re able to watch something in the day, what do you think you’ll be watching something in that?

Larry Cohen

Management

Well, clearly the tenure has gone up since then we are today. Earlier, I saw that the tenure today I think closed around 218. So that’s up probably almost 40 basis points what we did previously. And then looking at 20 basis points increase this week. Today, we’d probably be in the 4s for sure, probably 4 in the quarter, 4.5, somewhere in that range if we were to lock rate today. Obviously, it changes day-to-day and the market will have some bearing. But I will say today 4.25, 4.5 is probably a good estimate of where we would price any one of them today.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay. And then Carey if I heard you right on the incremental earnings for the second quarter, cash flow for the second quarter, I guess that’s everything being equal not really including any growth in rate or occupancy?

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

No, that does include growth in rate and occupancy we would expect in the second quarter. Yes, so that’s how we get the extra $0.01 or so in the second quarter related to some kind of core operations.

Todd Cohen

Analyst

Okay, so that was from core, okay, got it. All right, I think that’s about it. Thank you all.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thank you, Todd.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

We have a follow up from Daniel Bernstein.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Thanks. Most of my questions have been answered. But a real quick question, did you see any impact in Texas from the drop in oil in terms of your move-ins?

Larry Cohen

Management

We’re not in the oil patch. If you look at – Dallas is a very diversified economy. We have two buildings in Houston that actually are not oil related at all, one petrochemical, the other is [indiscernible]. It’s interesting, in Houston we’re seeing no supply at all and no impact from oil. So we sold that building to Oklahoma City, so that takes us out. We sold that building to Louisiana, so we’re out of that market. We’re just not seeing any impact at all from oil. Obviously, maybe there’s little reduction in cost but it’s not meaningful. Fortunately, the locations in Texas have never been oil dependent and we’re not seeing any impact from the lower price of oil.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay. And one more quick one. In terms your pipeline, is that changing at all in terms of the mix of, say, marketed deals you’re looking at of buying versus relationship-driven on-offs?

Larry Cohen

Management

We look at both but most of the acquisitions are off-market and repeat transactions. If you look at the first quarter, two properties that we acquired, one was with a seller that we had dealt with previously. The other was a property that we had – it was marketed, but we have relationships with the broker. Sometimes they’ll come to us first because of the relationship. They know that we are a good buyer and sometimes they’ll have sellers ask them to come to us first before it goes to market. So, I’d say that it’s likely that we’ll continue with the successful off-market program. It’s been very attractive. I know of some properties that we’ll see later this year from relationships that we have. So I think that will remain where we have a fairly robust pipeline that we’re not getting involved in a bidding process. And think that with the cash we have and kind of the pace of acquisitions that we’ve demonstrated over the last three, four years, we can continue to have meaningful increases in value and cash flow by being very disciplined on acquisitions.

Daniel Bernstein

Analyst · Stifel

Okay, that’s all from me. Thanks.

Larry Cohen

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. With no additional questions in the queue, I’d like to go and turn the conference back over to our presenters for any additional or closing remarks.

Larry Cohen

Management

Well, we thank everybody for your participation today. Carey and I will be speaking in the city. I’ll try seeing many of you over the next few weeks. It seems like a very active season for conferences, so we look forward to seeing you in the next number of weeks. And of course, always feel free to give Carey or myself a call if you have any follow up questions. Again, thank you very much and wish you a good evening.

Carey Hendrickson

Chief Financial Officer

Thank you. Bye-bye.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude today's conference. Thank you all again for your participation. Hopefully, you all have a good evening. Thank you.