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SoFi Technologies, Inc. (SOFI)

Q4 2022 Earnings Call· Mon, Jan 30, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and thank you for attending today's SoFi Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All lines will be placed on mute during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity to question and answers at the end. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Maura Cyr, SoFi's Investor Relations.

Maura Cyr

Management

Thank you, and good morning. Welcome to Sofie's fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings conference call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Anthony Noto, CEO; and Chris Lapointe, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the Investor Relations section of our website. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantages and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, future products and services and future business and financial performance. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and our upcoming Form 10-K as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. And now I'd like to turn the call over to Anthony.

Anthony Noto

Management

Thank you, Maura, and good morning, everyone. 2022 was a remarkable year for SoFi. We accomplished more than any of us could have hoped for. Our resilient team drove great execution of our strategy that has proven to provide the benefits of business diversification and durability to deliver exceptional growth and improving profitability. Our adjusted net revenue grew 52% in 2022 to over $1.5 billion, and we delivered nearly 5 times the adjusted EBITDA we did in 2021. We obtained a national bank license, which could not have come at a better time, allowing us to be incredibly flexible in a rapidly changing environment. We're offering a compelling SoFi Money product that is driving high-quality direct deposit customers spending and deposit balances. The deposits bolster and diversify our source of funding enabling us to offer our best rates on loans, while generating impressive returns and improving net interest income revenue. In fact, 2022 marks the first time our lending net interest income revenue of $530 million by itself exceeded our total directly attributable lending cost of $443 million. we grew our deposits 7 times to $7.3 billion from $1 billion over the course of the year, really powering that cycle. We grew our member base by 1.8 million to 5.2 million members, nearly 9 times our size in 2018. We acquired Technisys, adding a critical capability as we build our end-to-end technology stack and bringing us one step closer to being the AWS of fintech. We navigated unparalleled market volatility, macro headwinds, high inflation and increasing interest rates and two unexpected extensions of the student loan moratorium by reacting nimbly and leveraging the diversification of our business to hit record revenue in each quarter of the year. The fourth quarter was an incredible end to an exceptional year. We delivered…

Chris Lapointe

Management

Thanks, Anthony, and good morning, everyone. We finished off a remarkable year while navigating a rapidly evolving macro backdrop even as our previously largest and most profitable business operated at 25% of Q4 2019 pre-COVID volumes. This proves once again that our diversified and differentiated business model drives SoFi's durability and long-term growth potential. I'm going to walk you through some key financial highlights and then share some color on our outlook. Unless otherwise stated, I'll be referring to adjusted results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2022 versus fourth quarter and full year of 2021. Our GAAP consolidated income statement and all reconciliations can be found in today's earnings release and the subsequent 10-K filing, which will be made available in the coming weeks. For the quarter, top line growth accelerated, and we delivered record adjusted net revenue of $443 million, up 58% year-over-year and 6% sequentially from the third quarter's record of $419 million and above the high end of the guidance provided during our last earnings call. Adjusted EBITDA was $70 million at a 16% margin, also above the high end of our most recent guidance. We saw 14 points of year-over-year and five points of sequential margin improvement, demonstrating the strong operating leverage of the business as it scales. Year-over-year margin improvement has been driven by significant operating leverage across our sales and marketing, G&A and Ops functional expense lines. Overall, this resulted in a 40% incremental adjusted EBITDA margin year-over-year. Our GAAP net losses were $40 million this quarter, a $71 million improvement year-over-year and $34 million improvement sequentially. Incremental GAAP net income margin was 42% year-over-year, a notable step in our path to GAAP profitability. In addition to our adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, we saw meaningful leverage against stock-based compensation as a…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Michael Ng of Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Michael Ng

Analyst

Hi, good morning and thank you very much for the question. I appreciate all the color around 2023. I was just wondering if you could go into a little bit more detail around the origination assumptions. You gave some good deal around student loan and personal loans, could you do that for homes as well? Thank you very much.

Chris Lapointe

Management

Yes, sure. So, I can hit that one, and Anthony can chime in. So, in terms of our overall outlook on originations, going back to what I said in my prepared remarks, we are assuming modest growth in our personal loans business. We do see there being ample headroom for continued growth given where our market share is today. Currently, we're at about a 6% market share in our credit box. That's up from about 4.5% a year ago. So significant headroom ahead of us, but we are going to take a prudent approach to this and continue to monitor credit and make changes as necessary. In student loan refinancing, we're assuming that originations are at the current run rate levels at least through the end of August of 2023, and we do expect a bit of an uptick once the moratorium ends in June followed by a 60-day extension. And then in-home loan originations, we expect to continue at the current pace that we're at right now with a potential uptick in the back half of the year as we resolve all of our fulfillment issues.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dominick Gabriele of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Dominick Gabriele

Analyst

Great results. So I just wanted to talk about the deposit growth. I mean it's really been -- Anthony, it's been really astounding how much deposit growth you've gotten over the last year. And I'm just curious about how you think about an environment where you may need less deposits? And how you would go about, perhaps, trimming that growth rate in that environment, let's say, originations are down. Is it rate, or is it something else? Any color you can provide on that outlook would be excellent. Thank you so much.

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes. And thank you, Dominic. We're really pleased and proud of what we've been able to achieve on the deposit side getting to 7 -- over $7 billion of deposits, starting at less than $1 billion at the beginning of the year. And that trend really reflects the strategy that we've employed behind the bank to offer a very high interest rate on checking of over 2% and a high interest rate on savings at 3.75%, no fees and complete functionality on your phone to be able to pay bills, to be able to send money to your friends to be able to look at all of your transactions, to be able to really function all of your money movement right from our app. The combination of that plus the focus we've had on driving high-quality direct deposits has driven that deposit number. What I'd say is, we're nowhere close to the point in our total deposits that we would have trouble deploying them. The limit on our growth is really driven by how much resources that we have to go after it. Once people become aware of our product, the adoption is pretty strong behind that. And so the deposits that we have today could be deployed the way we have the last several quarters; one, to fund our own loans; two, to be opportunistic on opportunities related to our loans that are in the marketplace. There are several businesses we're not in today that would leverage deposits, including small and medium business loans and being in that entire sector would require deposits as well. And we can leverage obviously growing deposits from small and medium businesses also. So if we get to the point that our deposits are significantly higher than they are today, we can deploy them in many, many other ways to drive a great return for the company.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Kevin Barker of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open, please go ahead.

Kevin Barker

Analyst

Good morning. And thanks for taking my questions. Your balance sheet has grown tremendously over the last year, partly due to the deposit growth. Could you talk about the differences between held for investment versus a held-for-sale strategy? In particular, we've seen several companies start to come back to the securitization market in the first quarter with spreads tightening relative to late '22 numbers. I'm just trying to see how you balance driving net interest income versus potentially some fee or gain on sale income? And how do you think about that for the rest of the year? Thank you.

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes. Thank you for the question. We noted in the press release and prepared remarks that we hit a couple of key inflection points in the year. One of the biggest inflection points is that our NIM, our lending net interest margin revenue is now greater than our noninterest revenue, and that's a pretty big milestone. It reflects a lot of initiatives over the last five years, one of which was getting the bank license and being able to use the deposits to fund our loans and not have to recycle that cash through quick sales, et cetera. So we have the luxury of being able to look in the marketplace, look at our balance sheet and make the best decisions for long-term returns. And as we've done that, we've been able to hold loans longer and generate that revenue stream that's more recurring from net interest margin. You should expect the NIM to continue to grow, both in absolute dollars and as a percentage of total revenue in the lending sector. The second big accomplishment was that, for the full year, we were able to -- sorry, in the fourth quarter, we were able to get the NIM revenue greater than the directly attributable fixed cost of the lending business, meaning the non-interest income lending revenue was it needed to get to profitability at the contribution basis in Q4, which is another big milestone but you should expect that to continue to grow. It is a revenue stream that's more visible, more consistent than gain on sale noninterest income. But we have the luxury of making the best choices based on the marketplace. I'll let Chris talk about the specifics in terms of securitizations versus whole loan sales versus holding.

Chris Lapointe

Management

Yes. In terms of the ABS market, we're seeing the exact same trends that you highlighted in your question. Back in November, we actually did a $600 million term securitization deal at an attractive cost relative to where we expect warehouse cost of funding to be in 2023, and things have continued to improve in the overall market in the first month of this year. So we expect to be able to access that market here in Q1 and for the rest of the year.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Moshe Orenbuch of Credit Suisse. Your line is now open, please go ahead.

Moshe Orenbuch

Analyst

So maybe as a follow-up to that, can you talk about what you actually sold during the quarter in personal and student? And did you actually buy any portfolios during the period as well?

Chris Lapointe

Management

Yes, I can hit on that. So in terms of sales for the quarter, we ended up relying predominantly on deposit funding, warehouse funding and that term securitization. We did about $200 million worth of whole loan sales and the $600 million term securitization, so about $800 million in total. In terms of loan purchases, like I said during the last quarter, having the bank with a large and growing deposit base, provides us with much more flexibility and a new source of funding our loans, which allows us to grow the balance sheet and hold loans for a longer period of time. There are a few ways that we can bring loans on to the balance sheet. We can go out and pay an upfront marketing costs and originate them, or we can purchase the loans. So similar to Q3, we had the opportunity to buy some seasoned loans. This time, they were from -- they were in the student loan refinancing space, and these were all loans that we originally underwrote. Overall size was about half of what we did in Q3. And given the credit quality loss profile and return characteristics, we jumped on the opportunity as we knew the borrower best, and it's will set us up for really strong net interest income in the coming quarters given our overall cost of funding. And then we also had a few hundred million dollars of normal course cleanup calls on some of our consolidated securitizations that were several years seasoned.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Eugene Simuni of [Towers] (ph). Your line is now open, please go ahead.

Eugene Simuni

Analyst

This is Eugene Simuni from MoffettNathanson. Hi, guys, how are you? Quick question from me back to the outlook for 2023, very helpful to have the color, Chris. But I was wondering on the swing factors, let's say, the factors that would allow you to go to the high end of your guide, What would be the top two or three things that you guys are looking for that could swing the results here in 2023?

Anthony Noto

Management

Eugene, thank you for the question. There's a -- Chris laid out in our prepared remarks some of the underlying assumptions, both macro and micro. On the macro side, GDP growth, that's not as a dower as we have in our forecast and our implications, so a stronger economy than what we have. And we have a, we think, a relatively conservative i.e. low number for GDP, decline of about 2.5%. Unemployment, we had at 5%. That's a factor if it comes in worse than that, that could be a negative, a tailwind would be if it sells in the 4s. And then on interest rates, we have them peaking up 5% and then coming back down to about 4.5%. If rates came back even more than 4.5% and sold than the 4% range, I think we could be at an optimal part of the curve as it relates to passing on coupons, profitability per loan as well as the NIM that we can make relative to our deposits would be a pretty good outcome. Separate from that, for the technology platform sector, we have a really robust pipeline. It's more diverse. But more importantly, there are many members -- sorry, clients in our pipeline that have large existing consumer bases or user bases. And to the extent that those become launched in 2023 before the second half of the year, we can benefit from upside in those large partners coming on board from the tech sector. As it relates to the financial services sector, I really believe we have a lot of upside in the invest category. We are quickly launching new products to make sure that we have some table stakes products, but also some more innovative differentiation selection. And I think that if we're able to launch those to a receptive member base and the user base, it could be a tailwind. Second thing that could be a tailwind to invest is if the IPO market opens back up, we can underwrite IPOs. We're the sole retail distribution channel for the Rivian IPO. We participated in the new bank. Our members want access to IPOs and IPO prices. We're uniquely providing Main Street with access to IPO prices at those -- IPOs and IPO prices. To the extent the calendar opens back up, we have a pipeline there as well, which helps both with adoption of the product by new users because they want that unique selection, but it also drives incremental assets under management, which allows us to drive more revenue and monetize more. So those are some of the underlying trends that could give us a tailwind when we pass over to Chris...

Chris Lapointe

Management

Yes. The only other thing I would add to that, Anthony, is back to one of the comments that I made a few minutes ago around credit spreads. So implied in our guidance, and what I mentioned is that we're expecting to see continued elevated credit spreads throughout the year. Obviously, things are looking pretty good in January and spreads have tightened and the ABS market seems to be showing some signs of life. So if that continues throughout the year, there could be additional upside in the lending business as well.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mihir Bhatia Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now open, please go ahead.

Mihir Bhatia

Analyst

Good morning. And thank you for taking my questions. I just wanted to ask about the Technology Platform segment. Sounds like a little bit of, maybe not change but refinement in the strategy as you go after -- you're focusing on quality of clients and bigger clients with existing basis. What are some of the implications of that strategy? And I was also curious in terms of just new product introductions or cross-sell to existing clients in that segment, like as we think about your growth from here, how much of it is going to come from cross sell, cross biofuel in that segment versus some winning some of these new large partners? Thank you.

Anthony Noto

Management

Thank you for the question. And I think you characterized it appropriate in that it's a refinement of the strategy. Now that we're operating on one unified platform with both Technisys and Galileo, we can leverage the combined go-to-market and that does drive some synergy cost savings, which is why Chris mentioned small head count reduction. But there're also cost savings in different areas like marketing when you have that unified approach, especially in the United States. In addition to that, we've made really significant investments in the tech platform over the last three years. We've increased headcount by 2.5x. We moved to the cloud while maintaining on-prem capabilities. The on-prem will now go away this year. We've also done a great job at adding new partners. We've been adding 20-plus partners a year. As we look at the macroeconomic environment and where we sit, we think the right strategy for the year is to focus on durable companies with large installed bases, or well-capitalized companies that we know can make the transition and that we'll get a great return to leverage our platform capabilities. And so that's how we're approaching the year. For the first time, we're going to have meaningful margin expansion in the tech platform to start to leverage that investment we made, but we're still investing, and we're still growing. And let me give you an example of some of the areas that we've invested in that we expect to bear fruit this year, and we'll keep investing in. First and foremost, we wanted to diversify our products just out of a debit or interchange ACH type of product expanded in the B2B category. We have a number of new B2B partners that are generating revenue today. Some are doing small and medium business lending, some…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Dan Dolev of Mizuho. Your line is now open, please go ahead.

Dan Dolev

Analyst

Great results. Thanks for squeezing me in. Can you maybe give us some quarterly trends on sort of particularly the three metrics, student loans, personal loans and mortgages, just kind of how things are trending through, say, the end of January? Thank you.

Chris Lapointe

Management

Yes. So thanks, Dan, for the question. So we aren't providing specific views on how things are trending right now. But what I would say is, on the student loan front, through January, as mentioned in our guide, we expect it to be at the existing run rate levels that we saw in Q3 and Q4. In personal loans, things are progressing. As one would expect, there's a lot of headroom in that business, but we're being mindful with respect to credit. And then on the home loan side, we have made some really good progress over the course of the last two to three months in terms of some of those fulfillment issues that we've talked about previously and things are trending in the right direction. Anthony, I don't know if it's anything you'd add there?

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes. The only other thing I'd add, Dan, as I did say in my prepared remarks that we're seeing the strong trend in member and product growth continue to Q1. We've, throughout the year, constantly iterating on marketing channels, on marketing messages, on life cycle marketing and leveraging the most efficient channels. And I feel like, in the fourth quarter, we -- it was a culmination of a lot of work over the last two years, and we saw the benefit of that. And as we started the new year, we continue to see that. So we feel really great about not just the growth rate in members as well as products, but the quality of those members and product adoption in addition to the cost of acquisition.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ashwin Shirvaikar of Citigroup. Your line is now open, please go ahead.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst

Thank you. Congratulations on the results. Questions on the process of transfer to new fulfillment partners. And you just mentioned the last two, three months have been good, Chris. But what should investors expect in terms of time line, financial impact? It's been a few quarters this has come up, and what's the main factors that seem to be, I guess, affecting a more timely transition?

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes. And just to give you a little bit of history here, we had a partner that was helping us drive great success on the back-end fulfillment side of the equation. We do the -- we do the marketing to drive the demand at the top of the funnel. We do the underwriting for the loans. And after that, loan is locked. We partner with a film partner to get through all the all the steps after that. That partner unfortunately got acquired. We were then required to make a technology platform switch with the new acquired company, which was costly and time-consuming. And ultimately, the economics that entity was seeing became quite onerous as rates increased, and we realized that the economic relationship that we had was changing, and we needed another partner. We started pursuing other partners, quite frankly, well before that acquisition happened just needing diversification. And so we fast-tracked the second partner that we needed to transition to. That transition didn't happen as quickly as we would hope. I will tell you, in the last two months, we've seen more progress there than we have in the last 18 months, and I'm encouraged by the progress the team has made, both in terms of the technology integration, the process flow, the ability to hit time-to-funding metrics and serve our members better. We're nowhere near perfect, but we're starting to move in the right direction for the first time in a while. In terms of the economic impact on the overall business, Chris was pretty clear in saying that it will ramp throughout the year. I would think about it as more second half of the year than the first half of the year. But the team is executing in a way that I think positions us…

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of John Hecht of Jefferies. Your line is now open, please go ahead.

John Hecht

Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. Again also you talked about B2B estimates starting up. And you guys have [indiscernible] on live in the uses and members and change in terms of marketing and customers and members. And how do you think about any opportunities in 2023?

Anthony Noto

Management

John, it was really hard to hear your question. I don't want to guess what your question was. Maybe you could just dial back in with a better connection. I heard something about B2B and that it was pretty muted after that.

John Hecht

Analyst

Is this better? Sorry, guys, is this better?

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes. Perfect. Thank you.

John Hecht

Analyst

I'm sorry, can you hear me now?

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes, we can hear you.

John Hecht

Analyst

Okay. I apologize as my headphones are bad. The question was just, Anthony, you mentioned B2B activity. You guys clearly still have very positive momentum with new members and new customers. I'm wondering, given your channels of customer acquisition, the cost of customer acquisition, has there anything changed from a characteristic perspective? And how do you look at opportunities from that regard in 2023?

Anthony Noto

Management

Yes. So the SMB opportunity, I think, is really an opportunity that's aligned with the type of member that we're acquiring in our core target. We don't have plans in 2023 to enter that market. We do believe it's an opportunity for us over the longer term to serve that market well. If you follow us on any social media, it's a constant requests that we get from people to launch small and medium business checking and savings, small medium business lending. When the pandemic first started back in 2020 March time period, we were inundated with tons of small medium businesses coming on to SoFi and trying to apply for PPP loans. We clearly don't have small, medium lending now that we have a banking license. That is an area that we could go into, but we did at that point in time. We stood up a website that allowed us to take the traffic that came to SoFi and leverage lantern to send the traffic to a marketplace of small, medium business lenders. And it was very -- people were very happy with it. The demand, as a result of that, led us to realize that many of our members are operating small medium businesses and that we could serve them on the commercial side as well. But as I mentioned, it's not something that we do in 2023. I would never say that would say the same. We'll review it every quarter. If the student loan market came back sooner than expected, and some of the other things went our way in the economy and so forth, it may be something that we could focus on in the second half of the year. But right now, it's not on the funding list, but it's a huge opportunity for us. The only reason I mentioned it earlier was, we had asked -- been asked the question earlier about deposits and what happened if they grow too big, and that would be a great problem to have. If they grow in excess of what we're willing to originate on the personal loan side and SLR side and home loan side and credit cards, we would offer more lending products to make sure we're capturing that great resource of deposits to deploy against high-returning assets.

Operator

Operator

Our last question today comes from the line of Michael Perito of Stifel [ph]. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Michael Perito

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Obviously, you guys have hit on a lot already this morning. I thought maybe I'd just ask Chris, just can you maybe give us some reminder or some context around how you guys are thinking of capital of the bank in your 2023 projections, obviously, very healthy still today. But imagine in the guide, there's a bit of balance sheet growth baked as you guys done in 2022. I'm just curious where you kind of have the capital ratios levering to and how that compares to kind of where you want to run the bank normalized going forward?

Chris Lapointe

Management

Yes. Thanks, Mike, for the question. So I'm not going to be providing guidance on the balance sheet side within the bank, but I'll at least provide a little bit of insight on how we're thinking about it. So right now, we've capitalized the bank with about $1 billion of capital. You'll see that in the bank call report that comes out later today. We're currently operating at about a 15% leverage ratio, which is still significantly above our regulatory limits. So we do expect to see additional balance sheet growth as we continue to scale our lending business. We expect modest growth in our personal loans business and then relatively muted in the student loan refinancing and some growth in home loans. The only other thing I would add in terms of being able to grow the bank balance sheet is that we are sufficiently capitalized at the parent as well. We're coming off of a year in 2021 of raising over $3.5 billion of capital, and we've only deployed $1 billion of that to the bank. So we have sufficient excess liquidity that we could capitalize the bank and grow it further if we wanted to.

Anthony Noto

Management

And the only thing I would add on to that is something we were talking about as a team yesterday that doesn't get a lot of attention. But when you look at the asset side of our balance sheet and you look at the trend, and you look at our cash and cash equivalents, we finished the year at $1.4 billion of cash and cash approvals. What's not in that number is $424 million of restricted cash. And then there's some investment securities, which is a combination of treasuries and government securities as well as loans or what we said, of about $400 million. The trend in that line has been continuing to increase, which speaks not only to the liquidity that we have but the equity that we have that we can deploy either against funding loans or funding the bank. And it's one of the important measures that we'll continue to give you a -- somewhat of a level of confidence on being able to fund the bank to grow more if we need to put more equity there. Great. Thank you for dialing in, so I want to end with a couple of comments. February marks my five-year anniversary at SoFi, and it's just very humbling what we've achieved during such an unprecedented time period, growing from less than $500 million of revenue to $1.5 billion at the end of 2022, 600,000 members to 5.2 million members and negative adjusted EBITDA to $140 million of EBITDA, plus raising $3.6 billion in capital, becoming a public company and receiving a federal bank license. To have done all of that through two interest rate cycles, a recession, with the potential for another, a global pandemic, inflation at a 40-year high and in an incredibly competitive environment with significant access to near zero cost of capital is a remarkable five-year run. None of this, though, happens without the full faith of our Board and our shareholders, the persistent and unrelenting resolve of our people and a team that have done nothing short of extraordinary. Many can prognosticate about what lies ahead for the economy, interest rates, but in my view, the political background, the regulatory background remain very uncertain. And those exogenous factors are out of our control. But as it relates to what lies ahead, I will simply state my strongest belief that SoFi continues to be the best positioned company, to be the winner that takes most in the digital financial services sector of the future. Reaching the outcome is what we control, and what we remain steadfastly focused on to achieve. With that, thank you for calling in and listening to our fourth quarter results as well as our 2022 full year results. We'll talk to you next quarter. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Goodbye. Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Have a great day ahead. You may now disconnect your lines.