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Sohu.com Limited (SOHU)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, Feb 9, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and good evening. Thank you for joining Sohu.com Limited's Fourth Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After management's prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Today's conference call is being recorded. If you have any objections, you may disconnect at this time. I will now like to turn the conference over to your host for today's conference call, Huang Pu, Investor Relations Director of Sohu.com Limited. Please go ahead.

Huang Pu

Management

Thank you for joining us to discuss Sohu.com Limited's first quarter 2025 results. Ronald Powell, our chairman and chief executive officer, Dr. Charles Zhang, CFO John Lee, and vice president of finance, John Stone. Also with us are Chang Liu's CEO, Douyun Chen, and CFO, Yaobin Wang. Before Matthew begins their prepared remarks, I would like to remind you of the comments you have a statement in connection with today's conference call. You can access for the historical information contained herein. The matters discussed on the call may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current plans, estimates, and projections. Therefore, you should not place undue reliance on them. Forward-looking statements involve key risks and uncertainties. We caution you that a number of important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statements. For more information about the potential risks and uncertainties, please refer to the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Charles Zhang

Management

Including the notes with the annual report on Form 10-F.

Huang Pu

Management

With that, I will now turn the call over to Dr. Charles Zhang. Charles, please proceed.

Charles Zhang

Management

Thanks, Huang Pu, and thank you everyone for joining our call. In 2025, our marketing services revenues exceeded our previous guidance, while online game revenues were in line with our expectations. Our non-GAAP bottom line performance, excluding the impact of the Changyou withholding income tax reversal, came in at the high end of our prior guidance. For our social media platform, we continue to improve our products and algorithms to address user needs and enhance their experiences across different scenarios. We continue to host a variety of innovative events, which generated abundant premium content, quickly promoted user engagement, and enabled us to capture more monetization opportunities. For our online games, we remain committed to long-term operational excellence and continue to deliver high-quality content updates and compelling experiences to our players. Before going through each business unit in more detail, let me first give you a quick overview of our financial performance. For 2025, the total revenue was $142 million, up 6% year-over-year and down 21% quarter-over-quarter. Marketing services revenues were $17 million, down 10% year-over-year and up 25% quarter-over-quarter. Online game revenues were $120 million, up 10% year-over-year and down 26% quarter-over-quarter. After giving effect to the reversal of previously accrued withholding income tax of approximately $285 million related to Changyou, GAAP net income attributable to Sohu.com Limited was $123 million, compared with a net loss of $21 million in the fourth quarter of last year, meaning 2024, and net income of $9 million in 2025. After giving effect to the above-mentioned reversal of the withholding income tax, non-GAAP net income attributable to Sohu.com Limited was $261 million, compared with a net loss of $15 million in 2024 and a net income of $9 million in 2025. For the full year of 2025, total revenues were $584 million, down 2%…

Joanna Lv

Management

Thank you, Charles. I will now walk you through the key financials of our major segments for the fourth quarter and full year of 2025. All numbers are on a non-GAAP basis. You may find a reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures on our website. For the social media platform, quarterly revenues were $21 million compared with $24 million in the same quarter last year. Quarterly operating loss was $72 million compared with an operating loss of $69 million in the same quarter last year. For the full year 2025, revenues were $75 million compared with $91 million in 2024. The full-year operating loss was $283 million compared with an operating loss of $287 million in 2024. For Changyou, quarterly revenues were $121 million compared with $111 million in the same quarter last year. Quarterly operating profit was $45 million compared with an operating profit of $48 million in the same quarter last year. For the full year 2025, revenues were $509 million compared with $506 million in 2024. The full-year operating profit was $238 million compared with an operating profit of $196 million in 2024. For 2026, we expect marketing service revenues to be between $10 million and $11 million. This implies an annual decrease of 20% to 27% and a sequential decrease of 35% to 41%. Online game revenues are expected to be between $130 million and $123 million. This implies an annual decrease of 4% to an annual increase of 5% and a sequential decrease of 6% to a sequential increase of 2%. Both non-GAAP and GAAP net loss attributable to Sohu.com Limited are expected to be between $10 million and $20 million. This forecast reflects management's current and preliminary view, which is subject to substantial uncertainty. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, we would now like to open the call to questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, management. To ask a question, please dial *1 and wait for your turn. To cancel your request, you can press *1 again. Our first question comes from the line of Thomas Chong of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Thomas Chong

Analyst

Hi. Good evening. Thanks, management, for taking my question. My first question is about advertising. When I look at the Q1 advertising guidance, it seems relatively soft on a sequential basis compared to historical Q1. So I just want to get some color. Is it due to macro uncertainties? And can we talk about the trend for categories like Auto and IT sectors in Q1? Also, on the gaming guidance, because when I look at the Q1 revenue guidance on gaming, it seems like a negative or positive 1-2. I just want to see what really drives the high end or the low end of the guidance and the trend we are seeing now. That's my first question. My second question is about AI. Given that, I think there's a lot of industry discussion in overseas markets regarding whether AI will disrupt the online gaming sector. Just want to get some thoughts from management about whether AI is a possibility tool in gaming, or are we actually seeing AI may disrupt the sector in the long term? Thank you.

Charles Zhang

Management

Okay, Thomas. The first question is about advertising. The question about Q1 and softness, right? So I think it's mainly due to the seasonality because this year, Chinese New Year is kind of late. I mean, two weeks late in February. So, you know, companies are not getting a lot of things done in January or February. The overall macroeconomic situation remains similar to Q4. So that's why. And then the next is about gaming, right? For gaming revenue. Yeah.

Yaobin Wang

Analyst

Since we will have no new game launching in the first quarter, the level of the revenue of the first quarter depends on the existing game's performance, including such as the performance of the new content and activities that we will launch in the first quarter for TLBB PC, TLBB Return, and Legacy TLBB Mobile. So far, the performance is basically in line with our expectation. Regarding AI, we think pushing the application of AI, especially in terms of the creation of game design plans, is essential for the production of the gaming industry. Thank you.

Thomas Chong

Analyst

Thank you. May I quickly also ask a follow-up question back to advertising? Charles, may I ask about how we are actually seeing the trend for different advertising categories such as auto and IT sectors? I remember in the last earnings call, we were actually seeing some softness. I'm not sure if there's any improvement for auto and IT sectors. Thank you.

Charles Zhang

Management

Yeah. There is some improvement in the auto sector. There's a higher percentage of the overall revenue split. So, yeah, because, yeah, the auto industry is doing better than the IT and other FMCG. They have a higher percentage of the total pie. I mean, the overall revenue.

Thomas Chong

Analyst

Thank you. This is for Q4, right? We are talking about.

Charles Zhang

Management

Yeah. Q4. Yes.

Thomas Chong

Analyst

Got it. Thank you, Charles. Thank you. I will go back to the queue.

Charles Zhang

Management

Okay. Welcome.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for the question. One moment for the next question. Our next question comes from the line of Alicia Yap of Citi. Please go ahead.

Alicia Yap

Analyst

Hello. Thank you. Good evening, management. Thanks for taking my questions. I have a few questions. First, I wanted to follow up on the first quarter guidance and also the 4Q. Was there any one-off revenue that was recognized in the 4Q that led to the outperformance in the fourth quarter? Any special ad campaign by any industry vertical that outperformed during the quarter? Second question is on gaming. Can management share with us the game pipeline and also the major expansion pack that you plan to release for the remaining of 2026? So that we can better assess the game revenue trend for the next three quarters. Lastly, on your guidance, the net loss guidance seems like this quarter, the $10 million to $20 million net loss that you've guided is a much smaller number than previously. Usually, the loss is around the $20 million to $30 million range. Any particular reasons why the loss is narrower than previous quarters? Also, should we expect this trend to be consistent for the remaining of 2026? Thank you.

Charles Zhang

Management

So your first question is about understanding why Q4 had growth, right? And then Q1 has softness. You were thinking that there are reasons for this. Right?

Alicia Yap

Analyst

That's right. That's why Q4 is stronger than your guidance. Right? Any particular special events that happened in Q4?

Charles Zhang

Management

Oh, I think Q4, we are just doing better overall. The Q1 softness or the Q1 lower forecast is purely due to the Chinese New Year's delayed timing this year. Chinese New Year is, you know, like, February 16. Right? So it's more than two weeks late than last year. So that, you know, advertisers, they just do not have much going on. Only after the Chinese New Year, after February and into March, they come back to work and start to plan for the year to add marketing campaigns. So it's purely due to Chinese New Year that our advertising is not doing that well in Q1, even compared with last year's first quarter, 2025. But the Q4 is not because there was a major event; it's just that we are doing better. The macroeconomic situation is still similar, not very good, with a lot of uncertainties. But we are just seeing a shift in the advertising industry. Traditional advertising on those media channels is not working now. People are not spending much on that, on brand marketing. But instead, we have innovative marketing solutions based on KOL or influencer marketing, online events, offline events, live streaming, all these that are consistent with our product development side, our user social media. So we have these innovative marketing solutions that differentiate us from others. So we are getting the advertising and brand marketing dollars. Especially in Q4, we had some major events, some offline events that attracted advertisers. Online KOL accounts and live streaming, all these things. So we are entering into a new age of marketing and social media time. So I hope I answered your question.

Alicia Yap

Analyst

Yes, you did. Thank you.

Charles Zhang

Management

So next, regarding the game pipeline.

Yaobin Wang

Analyst

First, regarding the game pipeline, we have a card-based RPG based on IP. It's a mobile game mixed with a hardpoint game. It is expected to launch in 2026 or early 2027, subject to its development process and testing results. Meanwhile, we also have several mini-program video games in development. We will decide if we will launch the games or when to launch the games based on their development and testing results. For the existing games, we will launch expansion packs in a similar cadence as previous years. As for the revenue trend for this coming quarter, we cannot forecast the trend right now. It depends on the performance of the expansion pack of our older games and also depends on whether we can launch new games and their performance. Thank you.

Charles Zhang

Management

Thank you. So for 2026, we have a loss, and the average loss is similar, right? Ten or twenty million.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for the questions. With that, that concludes the conference call for today. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect your line.